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Brandy's avatar

I refuse to listen to Tucker or Candace and thankfully, I had made that choice before this latest round. Candace doing what she has done to Erika Kirk and still having support from someone who claims to care all about women? That makes me side-eye MK, who I genuinely had so much respect and admiration for. As for Tucker, I left when he started talking about being woken up scratched by a demon and then platformed Fuentes who I think is actual CIA type material. I mean, how can one see that as anything other than just trying to destroy a movement? and here's the worst part. I don't support every single thing Trump does or says. I really don't. But I know the alternative is redistribution, jobs and opportunities based on skin color, managed decline, and subservience to Marxist-type authoritarianism. I am disgusted by ANYONE who would rather us be ruled by them than to protect future generations of traditional families or Western Civilization. If hating Trump or Israel or fucking hot dogs is more important to you than my family, you can kick rocks.

Texyz's avatar

Double Damn, girl !

Pat Robinson's avatar

1000%

With all the attacks on Trump, who I also don’t agree with on things, despite all that the democrats poll lower

That gives hope

Spinster Mountain's avatar

Agree with everything you said

ScottyG's avatar

“Was that Ohtani that hit that monster out of the park?”

“Nope.”

“Aaron Judge?”

“Nope.”

“Then who?”

“Brandy!”

Linda Hayward's avatar

Brandy, you're a goddess!

Brandy's avatar

🙏 Much love.

Michael Stevens's avatar

Then you have no F’ing clue what you’re talking about having never heard what they said 😂😂😂

JW Writes's avatar

I literally don't know a single person who listens to these people. I'm in the South - maybe we're just used to rolling our eyes at the crazies in attic. I haven't heard anyone I know or overheard anyone in public talk about ANY of this or even criticize the war. Maybe I lead a sheltered life, but I think this "all on line" crap is just wearing normal people out and they're enjoying the nice spring weather.

MU2002's avatar

I used to listen to Tucker every day. His show on Fox was great (in my opinion). I even met him one time and he seemed like a good guy. He did an entire tour in the lead up to 2024 focused solely on getting Trump elected. But he’s lost me over the last year. I’m not on board with the Israel conspiracies and, frankly, he’s no longer fun to listen to. Not sure if he changed, or if I did. It’s a shame.

Pam Humphrey's avatar

quite a few changed afer charlie kirk was killed

North Country's avatar

And I didn’t even know who Charlie Kirk was when he was killed…

Pam Humphrey's avatar

what do you think now?

North Country's avatar

I think I just don’t have time for him. He seems desperate. (There are Youtube videos of people copying his cringey laughing and giggling.) If I watch him, it’s for the interviewed guest and in spite of Tucker.

BeadleBlog's avatar

He didn't change; he just lost the facade.

Kamas716's avatar

I used to catch the occasional podcast of some of these people, but that became less and less often as they got crazier and crazier.

Author John G. Dyer's avatar

Yeah. Like, bless their little hearts.

Alice Ball's avatar

I’m in the South too, and I agree, they are just like the crazies in the attics we have always rolled our eyes at! They’re all media critters watching their influence waning and popularity crashing with all but the most extreme followers.

Artie11's avatar

The Young people are listening to Candace. Charlie Kirk's death did great harm to that group.

MichaelH: Storyteller's avatar

When Carson and Kelly were on Fox i would watch their shows. Since they are gone they are like Owen's. I've seen a LITTLE bit of stuff from them, but don't actually follow them let alone agree with the crap they are spewing. Even when I DID watch Fox(haven't in years) I did not swallow the bait of what was said on their shows. I took what I liked and left the rest. Now, I leave it all together. Just a bunch of discombobulated BS if you ask me.

MichaelH: Storyteller's avatar

Foot note: I live in the great state of Western North Carolina. I was born and raised in Charleston, SC and am as southern as you can get. JW, I have more trouble finding someone who HASN'T at least heard of Carson, Kelly, and Owen's. The ones wo haven't are typically much older and never really got into network news programs because they never got cable or a satellite. They do exist but they are few and far between anymore.

Old Comers’ Granddaughter's avatar

These people are controlled operatives working for the Deep State. Sleepers.

When the DS realized they could no longer control the narrative through mainstream media, they had to pivot to alt media. They infiltrated it with these traitors.

These traitors lured us in by saying everything we wanted to hear in clever and brilliant ways.

Now, upon activation, one by one, they are working to take out Trump and the MAGA movement by sewing confusion, doubt, discord, and division.

I never trusted one person on this list except for Tucker Carlson. That one broke my heart because he always came across as so very sincere where every last one of the rest always had a weird vibe to them that I didn’t trust.

I still hope and pray that Tucker and Trump are pulling some kind of weird narrative control operation themselves that I don’t totally understand yet. The fact that Buckley his son works for JD as his deputy press secretary is crazy to me and must mean something. Maybe at some point Tucker comes out saying he was totally wrong and apologizes and in the process red-pills a whole new group of people that would not have otherwise listened, to the real truth about Israel. Which is, long story short, the Jews are not all evil and ruling and running the whole world, but Israel just like many other countries, including our own, has been infiltrated by the Deep State and Trump is working to shut down the DS in every country.

Right now he is using one of their favorite war-making proxies, Israel, to destroy the most favorite proxy of the deep state, which they set up 47 years ago, the IRGC.

These two countries have been the reason for all the unrest in the Middle East over the years. And now Trump is using one to destroy the other and the City of London Inc. (the financial center of the world, and the epicenter of the deep state) is in a massive panic as he destroys their system, and they are powerless to stop him, and yet people are trying to say that he’s not in control of the situation? Hilarious.

I’m just so incredibly grateful that I stumbled upon the Q drops and the brilliant Anons years ago! Because I’m so much further along in my understanding of what is going on right now than I would’ve been if I had never come across them.

Thank you Q.

PS - Alex Jones has been a CIA/MOSSAD/M16 Deep State operative for ages, whom they have used to control the narrative on any conspiracy theory they didn’t want us to find out the truth about.

For example, Sandy Hook, they knew that was going to happen. They set that up to happen, that part was true. But real children died. There were no actors! There’s no need for actors. The Luciferian Deep State loves to sacrifice children!! They love to visit this kind of trauma upon the world. And then they used Alex to confuse or scare off anybody who questioned it. You question it, you get thrown in the Crazy Alex Basket and maybe you’ll get sued into oblivion too.

Oh except for he’s not sued into oblivion. He’s just fine. Is he starving or suffering in any way? No he’s still working and he’s still rich and fat.

Linda Hayward's avatar

I respectfully disagree -- you do indeed live a sheltered life, and your comment is extremely naive. I too live in the South, but in a revoltingly mostly-blue city, surrounded by insane people who worship their own kind, i.e. Tucker, Owens, Piker, et al. They walk among us, JW! And as much pain as these sub-humans cause the rest of us, I do feel that it's important to know about what's going on in the world. In addition to basking in the nice spring weather, of course.

Shooter 6's avatar

Ditto! Totally. lol.

NWCitizen's avatar

Wow, you lead a sheltered life!

Pam Humphrey's avatar

who are you addressing, sweetie? you are unclear

ah-clem's avatar

I'm mystified that no one shares their outrage about the genocidal message, for ~47 years, of Death To America.

BradK (Tuckered out)'s avatar

Outrage is always highly selective, and rarely cohesive or linear.

I've written before that I believe there is a chasm of POV between those of us old enough to remember 1979 and the feckless peanut farmer in charge, and those whose "knowledge" of Iran and its genocidal Ayatollahs consists of fictional retellings from the fantasy world of academia -- which paint Iran as the Victim and the West as the (and as always) the Oppressor.

Christine Jones's avatar

Exactly! I remember 1979. The Iranians have suffered so much.

BradK (Tuckered out)'s avatar

The entire middle east has suffered. The Iranian regime is a giant (and near nuclear) cancer on civilzation.

MichaelH: Storyteller's avatar

I remember watching the BOTCHED rescue attempt made by the Carter administration to get the hostages out of Iran. The ayatollah and his cronies back then are the ones who started the "death to America" and "death to Israel" chants. For 50 years the people of Iran have been living under the thumb of a tyrant. I have met a couple of Iranians who were able to escape and get asylum in the US (legally) and they were still in fear for the lives of loved ones still there. The PEOPLE of Iran WANT to be free of the rule of the regime. They just have no way to rise up against and not be shot down immediately. The people had their guns taken away by the regime. Tyrants know that an unarmed population is much easier to control. This is EXACTLY why our Founders wrote the 2nd Amendment into our Bill of Rights. All of these leftist gun grabbers are being fueled by politicians who want to disarm us to make us defenseless against their authority. Thst is a huge part of the changing or omission of history and Civics by academia over the last 60-65 years. Our government has gone so far away from what was supposed to be... it's sickening.

BradK (Tuckered out)'s avatar

The so-called "Conservative Movement", such that it was, was always a fragile, ethereal construct. It's one thing to have disagreements -- even deep ones over such things as going to war -- while it's another to just firebomb the whole artifice and walk away repeating how you were in the right all along.

When the dust settles the only true accomplishment of the Groypers will be to reinvigorate a moribund Democrat party and pave the way for them to take one or both houses in the fall. They will of course claim victory over the Bad Orange Man alongside their new allies, and relish in the next two years of 24x7 impeachment proceedings.

The Left will undo everything Trump accomplished, reopen the borders, bring back Wokeistan with a vengeance, and usher in the totalitarian Socialist States of America. Jab, baby, jab.

Thank you, Tucker, Candace, Alex, and the rest of you truly deplorable fucktards.

Thanks for nothing.

Robert Smith's avatar

Yeah, when the left get back in they'll bring back all the illegals Trump has been deporting... oh wait. Well, they'll certainly waste no time reversing all his measures to introduce basic common sense election integrity and secure US elections from fraud... oh wait. Okay, surely they'll release all the jailed deep-state conspirators who abused their powers to attack American democracy at the last three elections, starting with Hillary Clinton... no, scratch that.

No. What they'll actually do is drag us all into yet another pointless, unwinnable war for the sole benefit of the scummiest corporate interests in the world. And okay, that's much worse than anything Trump, the proud "no new wars" candidate, would do.... oh. Wait.

Faith's avatar

Trump has been sending illegals home. And he isn't done with his term. I'm surprised those leading voices may be helping the authoritarian Democrat types here. Its probably too much ego & self importance. At least Trump is in the ring trying to help our country.

Ruth H's avatar

Trump and his administration have to fight corrupt bias judges with every move they make. DOJ is filled with swamp creatures and slowly getting drained. Trump could do much more if the RINO infested Senate led by spineless Thune would confirm Trump’s appointments and Trump’s judicial nominees. Thune won’t call a recess for Trump to get his confirmations passed during recess, that every previous president in the past 50 years has had the ability to do. DC judges won’t indict when thus DOJ brings cases to them, Boesberg being the worst. So don’t blame Trump for lack of trying to get more accomplished. Trump resorts to EOs as his only avenue and the Senate should codify most of these, but again RINO infestation and leaderless Thune won’t help.

Matt L.'s avatar

Thune is Uniparty thru and thru. What a dirt bag he is.

MichaelH: Storyteller's avatar

Sadly, there are a lot of people in congress like thune. And those uniparty idiots are all on board with the one world order crap. You can not be all things to all people. It is IMPOSSIBLE to please EVERYONE with just one mindset. For instance, *I* will **NEVER** go along with the leftist identity/trans BS. NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

Matt L.'s avatar

I’m disappointed the Save Act is dying on the vine. Mail-in voting and proving your citizenship to vote should not be controversial. Thune could have forced a talking filibuster, and still can.

Kari Hartman Williams's avatar

Pretty sure it was “no new forever wars”.

Jay's avatar

Kari, at what point does a war become a “forever war”?

NNTX's avatar

These people clearly have either 1)Venal and monetary avarice to the nth degree, or 2)not enough important issues to handle in their lives.

I am SICK of them. They add absolutely nothing to the civic conversation, and instead grift. All were more than willing to ride on Pres. Trump’s coattails when they could, and now act as traitors and losers. A coven of Macbeth witches. Begone! All of them. Tucker and Megyn whom I once enjoyed, and Candace and Alex who were always nuts.

smartideas's avatar

Thanks Sasha. What’s remarkable to me regarding DJT is after 10 years in politics, much much longer in the public eye, this man is not owned or told what to do. Period. I’m really not sure if it’s click bait or whatever, but these people have lost their minds and credibility, in my personal opinion. Happy Friday!

DavidK's avatar

I don't really have time for hours-long podcasts. I read all of the links I get from you (Sasha) in my inbox, plus a few others (Peachy Keenan, Victor Davis Hanson, Roger Kimball), but life is too short to spend 2-3 hours a day listening to Tucker or (God forbid) Candace or that lowlife Fuentes.

That said it is hard to know what to believe any more, but maybe that was always the case? Who knows. I use Occam's Razor: simplest explanation is likely the most true. Does Trump do what he does because he has an iron will, Teflon exterior, and loves our country (and quite frankly ADORES himself)? Or, does he do stuff because he is being guided by the Rothschilds who manipulate the Illuminati, who control Israel and are blackmailing the entire right-of-center global coalition into a controlled chaos so they can secretly keep humanity off guard and rule the world (I just made all that up - but there is no way any of that, or anything like it, is happening).

All I know is despite the appearance of chaos these days - largely manufactured by the Leftwing media (like the BLM riots of yore), I will GLADLY take what we got now over the way things were three years ago. I feel safe that when I send my boy and girl to school, they won't come home a girl and boy (in that order). Or that my non-white wife will no longer be called a race traitor because she has her own non-progressive opinions on certain things. Or that if I get mugged and shot by an illegal migrant, that justice will now be served (ok ... maybe I still worry a little about that). Either way, Trump's manufactured chaos is way better in my mind than the actual living breathing chaos that existed from 2020 - 2024.

Sorry to hear about the chimps. I hope they can make up and move on.

Ruth H's avatar

Totally agree. While we on ‘the right’ didn’t post hourly 24/7 ugly stuff about Biden like the leftist liberal loons (and media) do about Trump. We definitely thought it four years under the Democrat controlled ran by Obama & his puppet Biden, but we carried on with life. I’ve slept much better after Trump’s election and always know his intentions are always good for Americans. We dodged a bullet by not being ruled by Kamala and Walz, especially now knowing how corrupt MN is.

Damien Buckley's avatar

The truly hilarious farce of it all is the presupposition that Trump would have any motive or care sufficiently about what Charlie Kirk, who in fact supported Trump, was doing to have him killed. It’s entirely ridiculous. The Covid jabs broke everyone’s brains.

Ruth H's avatar

Candace thrives on destroying TP and Erika Kirk as if she’s a woman scorned. Her nastiness is just too much. Anyone listening to her has a screw loose. On other substacks, I’ve had people tell me they listen to her and think that she is rock solid. I think she’s full blown psychotic. They will attack you online if you dare say anything about Candace. Her army of psychopaths follow her lead in destroying people. Candace has harmed several women by spreading misinformation, and then asking her listeners to attack them online. Candace is reprehensible and devious.

Damien Buckley's avatar

They’re easily swept aside - you only have to compare what they’re saying now with what they were saying a couple of years ago.

Dave M's avatar

Trump is continuously operating at full “Don’t Give A Fuck” regarding his political adversaries.

BBS's avatar

And given everything, I get that, but can't he get his point across without vicious name calling? Every time he goes on one of his rants, the fact is he loses a percentage of Republican support. Can we afford to lose Republican voters? Politics is a game. There are certain common sense rules that everyone has to play by.

Mary Fisher's avatar

I had never been a fan of his tweets, but more and more I see what people appreciate about them. He is not acting a part, by and large (sometimes I think he is acting- like the newly famous Easter Bunny incident 😄). He comes across as being authentic, not slick as most politicians and actors are. He’s old, he’s got a limited amount of time and energy, and his goal to make America great again is a multi-front war. I think I’d rather hear him honestly expressing his frustration, even though I will not agree with everything he says, than listen to the regular political BS, or the unhinged media.

BBS's avatar

Good to know. Apparently almost no one else does.

fuzzi's avatar

As my grandmother used to say "Consider the source".

If information comes from a person who is also trying to blame something henious on Israel/"The Joos", then I discount it.

Too bad, I liked Tucker. Jones is a broken clock. I had hopes for Candace, was cautious of Megyn, but never trusted MTG once I saw her play suckface with McCarthy. Blech.

Dena's avatar

Not only the Mcarthy affair, but her support of Code Pink was vomit worthy.

Ken Macko's avatar

Sometimes, I just wish Trump would STFU and simply take care of business.

Let the cockroaches/whiners whine by themselves. Each and every time we see a Truth Social rant like this, it disenchants me more. I’m done with Iran. Blast them and all of their terrorists off the face the earth. Be done with it.

Then, please, start arresting some of the traitors who have put us in the mess we’re in. Until some of those get put away, Trump is disappointing me to no end 😔

JJoshua's avatar

No one is ever going to get arrested. It’s pathetic at this point.

Ken Macko's avatar

I think you’re right.

Juju's avatar
Apr 11Edited

The hard part is the fact that if he stayed silent their voices are left to circulate and echo loudly, planting seeds in people’s minds, and with enough repetition and no counter their lies become fact. At some point he has to fight back and he and Melania deserve to have a chance to set the record straight in a timely manner. Frankly they have more self control than people give them credit for. I know staying silent would hurt more than him speaking up does, but I’m not sure if his hyperbole and verbal attacks are less effective than a reserved, mature response. In our imagination we would think the reserved responses would be more effective, but I’m not sure they could penetrate the crazy noise going on. His shocking social media posts sure do. 🤷🏼‍♀️ Like I said, I honestly don’t know. None of us do without a crystal ball to see the affect all permutations of possibilities would have on the present.

BBS's avatar

We all will agree that everyone has a right to defend themselves--their principles--their actions. That said, Trump's name calling rants hurt him more than help him. And they hurt the Republican party.

Juju's avatar

We will just agree to disagree. He’s not up against normal, sane people

GabeReal's avatar

Blast all of Iran off the face of the Earth? Are you serious?

Juju's avatar

He never said he was going to blast the “Iranian people” off the face of the earth. Good God you all accuse him of hyperbole and then take what he says and turn it up a notch beyond what he actually said. “Civilization” is the infrastructure a society of people use to live in a “civilized” manner. Bridges, utilities, etc. Trump only and always said they were targeting those things. You can destroy the civilization without destroying the people. The enemy is the regime, not the Iranians. Ask any Iranian there that isn’t on the IRGC teat and they will tell you if they had to choose between living in the stone ages or remain raped, beaten, shot, imprisoned, hung in the town square for speaking out against their leadership, they’d take the stone ages every time. That’s why they keep sending messages for Trump to not stop. You need to hear what they tell their families who live in other countries. You’re swallowing both Iran regime propaganda AND leftist lunatics here at home.

GabeReal's avatar

I was referring to the commenter Ken, not Trump. But Trump did say he was going to “bomb them back to the Stone Age” if they didn’t open the strait. I realize that was just bombastic language from him, but it’s still unnerving and over the top for a president to say.

Juju's avatar

No. It’s not. Context. Audience. Those things matter. It was not for us. All that matters is what the enemy hears and feels.

And when you remove bridges and utilities and communications, et al, you ARE in the Stone Age. 🤷🏼‍♀️ Uncomfortable truth but the truth nonetheless, and necessary IF they refuse to stop lying and make a deal.

And who wrote the manual for what and what isn’t appropriate for a president? Because a study of all the past presidents show a LOT of bombastic language, some worse than Trump. And the prissy ones who kept their screen time clean were the most evil of all under the table, hurting our country.

I’ll take my President raw and bold, telling the truth, WYSIWYG, if he is defending Americans and our country. And I can’t remember the last time we had a president love our country as much as this president does.

And I guess my replies are to Ken too. 🤣👍

Ken Macko's avatar

Yeah, I know it’s overboard.

GabeReal's avatar

I mean yeah, their leaders are awful, just like almost everywhere else, but the Iranian people that I’ve met tend to be friendly and loving.

Ken Macko's avatar

You’re absolutely correct. There are many good people there. They show the gratitude for what the US has done. But too many are not like that and have become the face of the country…like the nutballs here are trying to do.

Juju's avatar
Apr 11Edited

This I agree with. I see a LOT of similarities with the Democrat party and the way the IRGC operates, and that Basij group they use. It’s unsettling the Dems are defending Iran over America after all Iran has done

Trapped in IL's avatar

Happily pay for my subscription! Thank you Sasha!

Steve Pieper's avatar

I gladly pay for your commentary. Your insight is worth the subscription.

Robert Smith's avatar

Trump is burning through allies faster than the US has been burning through standoff munitions and interceptors this last month! Something tells me he won't be able to replenish them as easily.

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

When allies act like enemies, who needs them?

Dena's avatar

Israel seems the only true ally. Maybe we’ll build a whole new coalition with some Eastern bloc countries ( Hungary for ex. ), there are others. Western Europe seems doomed at the moment.

Robert Smith's avatar

They never acted like enemies until he stabbed them in the back by doing the opposite of what he promised them, which they all supported. That's a result of his choices, not theirs.

Juju's avatar
Apr 11Edited

He made new allies that are more honest and sound, and financially secure. The old ones were fake and robbed us blind. I don’t know why people aren’t more angry that our tax dollars are why European nations were able to enjoy things that our own citizens couldn’t because we financed ALL their defense and didn’t tariff them while they tariffed the hell out of us. And then they stab us in the back, like Canada. Ungrateful animals. So being angry over ending our relationship with any of them seems insane to me. Sad, fine, but angry? Be angry at them, not Trump. They showed their greedy true colors.

Robert Smith's avatar

I meant his erstwhile domestic allies, obviously. But on that separate point: blaming Europe for the costs of the US garrisons there is cope on a massive scale. The US spent vast amounts of money and effort plastering the globe with military bases because it was in the perceived interests of the US (or at least its ruling class), not out of benevolent kindness to Europe. European countries aren't US allies, they're a kind of forward staging post for US power projection, and leashed, dependent paypigs whose other role is to buy US dollars and exports to keep the debt machine churning. Another purpose, during the early Cold War when all this was established, was for Germany and the Low Countries to bear the brunt of the fighting rather than the US - although ICBMs very soon rendered that calculation obsolete.

Juju's avatar

That’s one way to spin it

Robert Smith's avatar

It's that most difficult form of spin known as "realism". But this is a genuinely interesting point, one I haven't appreciated. I normally find it chilling when I encounter an American who really believes the "America as benevolent world guardian acting out of decency instead of self-interest" shtick, but I'm more embarrassed now by how I failed to properly recognise this strain in the Trump coalition. The signs were always there that to some people, America First really did mean simply that all those selfish other countries have been taking good ol' Uncle Sam for a ride all this time, and because American ruling elites are such hand-wringing bleeding hearts they've just been saying "aw, shucks, go on then" for seventy years and looking the other way, and it's time for it to stop and somebody to come in and think about what benefits America instead of trying to please ungrateful allies. This is so absurd, such a pathetic, childishly stupid fantasyland version of twentieth-century history, that I was probably guilty of not really considering how many people took "America First" to genuinely mean no more than that. Many of us took the slogan to mean "look after America's real national interests, understood in terms of the whole people instead of the narrow sectional interests of finance and government elites", because that made sense and needed saying, and the alternative meaning was on the preschool sandpit level of political discourse. But it looks like that was our culpable wishful thinking.

Juju's avatar
Apr 11Edited

Omg. Get over yourself. I can’t believe you typed that slop, and believe it. Who are you, MSNOW? Realism is not the same thing as delusions yet you’re stuck in the latter. I bet you’re paid for your time to spread b.s. 🤣🤣🤣

Kari Hartman Williams's avatar

Someone doesn’t understand the Marshall Plan or how it came about, much less the Cold War, the Warsaw Pact and NATO.

A good, thorough study of history 1945-1991 might be helpful.

Alice's avatar

I don’t think insulting one’s allies and then asking them to help for what you got into without consulting them is the best approach. We may have a very big economy and a very big military, but in this world everyone needs allies—imperfect though they may be.

Heyjude's avatar

No business thrives if it has to give their customers money to buy the product. And no alliance thrives if some allies need to support the other allies. These situations are not healthy, they are suicidal.

Alice's avatar

I’m not sure I understand your point. There are two types of NATO spending. Direct contributions to run NATO (US contributed about 16% of those costs ) and the pledge to devote at least 2% of GDP to defense spending—going to 5% by 2035. Thanks to sustained pressure (some quiet, some loud) from several US administrations, all NATO members met or exceeded the 2% target in 2025 with the exception of Spain, which has a formal exemption. The US spends a much higher percentage of its budget on defense because we have positioned ourselves as a global military power. I thought the current administration planned to reduce that role, but I was wrong. The point being—not all US defense spending pertains to the European theatre.

There are other benefits to alliances, the most obvious being shared intelligence as well as the ability to act and plan in concert. Such sharing depends on mutual trust of the security in member nations’ handling of classified material and consultation before action.

Dochi's avatar

I'm sorry but Spain DOES NOT have a formal exemption!!! Do your homework. The NATO Secretary General laughed at this suggestion and then said that there are NO EXEMPTIONS for any NATO country.

Alice's avatar

Well, Spain does have a formal exemption but not the one my sloppy writing seemed to imply. You are very right about that. I should never write anything serious on my phone and from memory! My bad for sure.

Spain must meet the current 2% of GDP spending on defense currently required by to NATO. My understanding is that it reached this is 2025. The exemption is for the proposed goal of 5% by 2035. I may not be up to date so please send me the citation if that exemption has been revoked. Secretary General Rutte did at first express disapproval (I didn’t know he “laughed”) of the exemption but then oversaw the negotiations so far as I know.

You clearly understand but there seems to be constant confusion between what nations pay to support NATO the organization and the % of GDP they allocate to defense spending.

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

So like would one of the benefits to an alliance be allowing an ally to use your military base for like refueling or allowing an ally’s plane to fly over your air space?

Yeah that didn’t happen with our “allies”.

Alice's avatar

This is a US-Israel war so far as I can see. So, in this case Israel is the relevant ally. You seem to be referring to our NATO allies who were not part of this attack and do not approve of it.

This is why it is unwise to assume allies “have to” submit to you. Sovereign nations dislike being bullied into positions. It backfires—and boy did it! Everyone, even our huge nation, needs allies. We have been imposing tariffs on our allies, insulting them, and our “peace president” is now trying to drag them into a destructive war they weren’t consulted about. All this after withdrawing in 2018 from the negotiated treaty of 2015, again without consulting them. I don’t know about you, but I don’t make alliances with bullies. You may see it that as strength. I do not.

Jonathan E Burack's avatar

Among other mistakes you make, the useless and deceptive 2015 JCPOA with Iran was not a "treaty." It was a sellout made, to use your words, "without consulting" us, the people, via the congressional treaty approving process.

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

And now we have allies like India and Pakistan and SA and UAE and Israel and we still have Poland and Hungary.

David Longo's avatar

We (society) are doomed. Cretins from every crevice.

steven t koenig's avatar

We've always been doomed. This is nothing new. We just have better hieroglyphics now. And more people to read them and wallow in doom.

Matt L.'s avatar

Ramones sang it best:

“ There's no stoppin' the cretins from hoppin'

You gotta keep it beatin' for all hoppin' cretins”

gsharper's avatar

Most ordinary Americans have little idea how far off the deep end Candace and Tucker have fallen.. Some mainstream outlets are beginning to highlight the views of Candace and Tucker because they like the fact that they oppose Trump. But when they start looking a little more deeply into what Candace and Tucker have said over the past few months, it will become clear to a lot of people that Candace and Tucker are batshit loony. Very few people are going to want to associate with the Holocaust denial and Iran cheerleading of the woke right. Trump is absolutely right to distance himself from these clowns.