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BBS's avatar
Feb 3Edited

Yes, these doctors should all burn in hell for what they have done to kids, but where were the parents? And don't tell me the parents didn't know. Didn't know their kids were in trouble mentally, socially, physically? What kind of parent is so removed he/she doesn't NOTICE their kid is at the jumping off place.

Alan Wolfson's avatar

I could be wrong as my memory isn't what it used to be - and I don't have time to fact-check my memory as I'm taking a very short break from work. BUT......... I believe that California, possibly NY State and Washington State have passed laws stating that their Child Protective Services equivalent agencies can take teenagers out of the home of parents who deny the children "gender-affirming care". We all know that kids as young as 12 can have discussions with their doctors that are confidential and shielded from parents. So it's not a stretch too far to believe that the doctors in NY State determine that Fox Varian "NEEDED" the surgery and that the parents were hamstrung from opposing it.

cat's avatar

Yep, waiting for the lawsuits against states to happen...

NNTX's avatar

I think the paradise that is MN also enacted such provisions, sponsored by their radical governor, Waltz.

NanaW's avatar

I can’t speak to the other states involved, but you’re 100% correct on California leading the way down the path to ruin on this, and so many other horrible legislations that strip autonomy away from parents.

BBS's avatar

Of course, it's California, NY and Washington. Proving points. Sacrificing kids.

Gitch's avatar

Also, this was ( hoping past tense) something that happened without parental permission! You definitely got the states correctly

JJoshua's avatar

I want to see interviews from parents on why and how they allowed these surgeries to their kids. They support it????

Pat Robinson's avatar

If you read the free press story, you see that the mom testified that the therapist told her that her daughter would commit suicide if she didn't sign off.

This is a common tactic of the extreme. Bully the parents, basically hold a gun to their head.

Orest's avatar

We went to an event where Chloe Cole spoke. That's exactly what the docs told her parents: You'll have a dead daughter if you don't proceed. Or something along those lines. Her case is against Kaiser Permanente. Not sure how it's going, but I pray for her success.

David White's avatar

" ... her daughter would commit suicide if she didn't sign off"?

There is *no evidence* that that is true.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

No there is no evidence, but that's how they scare parents into going along with the transition. It's always surprising to me just how little parents know about this procedure and the drugs.

PhDBiologistMom's avatar

Yes, apparently what they ask parents is “would you rather have a live son or a dead daughter?”

Horrific.

Sue Kelley's avatar

How little they know is by design. Which is the opposite of the legal meaning" informed consent" . And malpractice by definition.

If true informed consent were provided regarding even just the amount of pain involved, let alone the lifetime of complications and the reality that you cannot change your gender, no one would have ever consented in the first place.

Pat Robinson's avatar

It was testified and its common practice, its how the extremists overwhelm the parents.

I think the therapist admitted to doing that in this case.

Is that "evidence"?

David White's avatar

Why is it that the Europeans have backed off on "gender-affirming care", while America has not? Maybe something about medicine for profit?

Pat Robinson's avatar

Probably because they were further along and so started to see the negatives sooner, lawsuits coming, zero science.

Doubt it’s about profit completely as we are still full speed here in canada with no profit crap Medicare except here in commonsense AB.

Also the woke capture is still prevalent here compared to Europe.

It will give way

NNTX's avatar

I believe that the UK did a study, which was published around 2024, that showed that “gender affirming care” DID NOT help the mental health of these confused adolescents. Tavistock Clinic...

Dena's avatar

They play on emotions, not bothering to present evidence with any honesty. Also there are sick parents ( mostly mothers) who thrive on the attention they think they’ll get. And then there are just the plain mentally ill mothers. Not sure where the fathers are, for the most part you don’t hear about them much. Some try to protect their children & are shut down by x wives & activist judges. Very sad.

Mtone's avatar

I’ve heard that is a common tactic.

Do you want a suicide for your memory of your child or do you want a brand new 15year old child of a different gender?

JJoshua's avatar

I knew it had to be something like that. Unreal.

Faith's avatar

The Democrats do that with EVERY issue: Take the Vax or you're killing Granny, fight ICE cause They're Nazis (burning Jews alive? wtf) they're so messed up, they lead people astray and use them, all for power

Evil.

Alan Wolfson's avatar

So true. The extremists go to the furthest corners of extreme framing, and the rest of the sheep go along lest they be kicked out of the Cool Kids club.

JJoshua's avatar

Think of the children. They've been doing it for decades. Fear tactics

NNTX's avatar

Likewise. to the insane Don Lemon invasion of Cities Church in St. Paul 10 days ago. Intimidation and threats.

Incredibly Lemon defends his intrusion as granted under the First Amendment—the same Amendment that guarantees freedom of worship.

Funny that—he doesn’t recognize that he and his associates were trespassing. But then again, the Left/Dems don’t recognize any boundaries. They’ve become more lunatic as they amp up their anger, outrage and indignation.

It would be sad if it weren’t so evil.

Faith's avatar

Exactly. Imagine terrorizing them while they're trying to work. You'd be in solitary, like the J6ers. And Dems would cheer.

Headsup's avatar

I think it's not so much the surgeries, rather overboard parent 'support' along the way.

Steve G's avatar

That’s funny. If, at 12 years old, I’d have told my mother I needed gender surgery I would probably have needed reconstructive surgery to repair a split skull.

Jaynee Beach's avatar

The parents were emotionally blackmailed into believing their kid would commit suicide if they weren’t allowed to mutilate themselves. “Would you rather have a dead daughter, or a living son?”

When parents resisted the emotional blackmail, they were then threatened with legal action to remove their children from their homes.

There were also some who were busy being the cool, hip, progressive parents for social approval, but I certainly wouldn’t paint all of the parents with brush.

JJoshua's avatar

Shame on the blackmailers!

Yolanda Pritam Hari's avatar

you'd think so, huh? a mom or dad saying "yeah, mutilate my beautiful daughter if it's what she wants...???????

John F Reinhard Jr's avatar

Those parents are also to blame.

Dave Vierthaler's avatar

I am waiting for the first lawsuit to include the parents as defendants….

Kathleen's avatar

Many doctors have used emotional blackmail by telling parents their child will die of suicide if they don’t allow child’s transition. This is so cruel, as parents are desperate as they see how unhappy the child is

How does anyone justify mutilating a healthy body to appease an unhealthy mind???

Squeeze27's avatar

I've met and talked to many parents of "Trans" kids. Some are bullied and scared because they are told that their kids will commit suicide, self-harm, or psychological destruction. Many others are happy to use their children as accessories that prove their "street-cred" as woke, progressive giants. The parents who want to help their children through the difficulty of gender dysphoria are locked out because their children are told not to trust them. I'm a HS teacher, and I've seen all of these scenarios so many times. School employees lie to parents and tell teachers and students to lie to parents.

Cranky Frankie's avatar

All the parents will claim they were pushed by doctors. How else to assuage their guilty consciences and, coincidentally, support litigation as plaintiffs?

"All you guys want to do is cut a guy open," - Mclean Stevenson as Lt. Col Henry Blake upon learning he had appendicitis and was to be operated on by his staff.

Steersman's avatar

👍 "progressive" parenting. A classic cartoon on the subject from Pat Cross:

https://patcrosscartoons.com/2019/10/08/progressive-parenting/

AncientViking's avatar

Thanks! I sent this to our 4 kids--all military families and have several kids themselves--all of whom are not confused about what bathroom to use....

Steersman's avatar

👍🙂 But, speaking of the military and of "gender ideology", something you might have missed on the topic from Charlie Kirk:

Wikipedia: On January 21, 2025, Kirk praised President Donald Trump for revoking Executive Order 14004, which had allowed transgender individuals to serve openly in the U.S. military, and said, "Sorry, if you're Jeff and you think you're Jill, you are not going to serve in the U.S. military. Go find something else to do."

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Charlie_Kirk&oldid=1311056624#LGBTQ_rights

Rather sensible point of view. Applies equally to other Jeffs thinking they're Jills, and wanting to use the lady's loos and compete in women's sports.

But a big part of the problem is that probably some half of the population -- mostly on the Right -- see "sex" and "gender" as equivalents. However, the other half -- mostly on the Left -- see those terms referring to two quite different kettles of fish: mostly reproductive abilities (ovaries and testicles) in the case of "sex" and, in the case of "gender", mostly personalities and behaviours typical of each sex while not being unique to either sex.

But that difference in terminology and definitions causes no end of problems, though often amusing ones like the infamous skit by Abbott and Costello about, "Who's on first." A somewhat less amusing case in the NYTimes:

NYTimes: Oklahoma Instructor Is Fired Over Student’s Gender Essay That Cited Bible; The instructor, a graduate student [and transwoman] at the University of Oklahoma, gave a zero to a student who wrote an essay arguing in favor of traditional gender definitions based on biblical teachings.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/23/us/mel-curth-oklahoma-instructor-firing.html?unlocked_article_code=1.IFA.Dz-X.fbMAlgfrmiCg&smid=url-share

NNTX's avatar

Good point.

Another component of trans folks serving in the military is that their “care” makes them not always available for service. And of course, we are on the hook to pay for the astronomical medical bills. (thank you Obama, who first sponsored the idea that our insurance should cover transition costs).

Headsup's avatar

Yeah, y'know, that's largely where it's at.

Mary Anne Simpson's avatar

Yes BBS the doctors should Bilton in hell, but do t worry, they WILL face their maker and answer for what they have done. Many parents “know”, and many have lost their children because they refused to participate in the delusion. Check out the group Genspect and PITT. Pitt is comprised of parents who support one another because they lost or are estranged from their children because they would not go along with it. Things are changing since Trump, but I still have nightmares thinking about where we would still be if Kamala had gotten in. This should not be a democratic vs republican issue, but unfortunately it has been made to be one. Under the democrats, you could lose custody for not participating in the delusion. Teachers still participate in keeping a child’s confusion from the parents. It’s sick.

Bill Quick's avatar

Gender mutilation is "medical care" in the same way that abortion is "maternal health care."

Tomas Pajaros's avatar

the same way Biden's Inflation Reduction Act reduced inflation.

D Parker's avatar

This shouldn't surprise anyone.

We no longer have a press that was only mildly biased, but at least willing to offer both sides of the story.

We now have a National Socialist Media that displays the worst aspects of a propaganda organ for the fascist, Violent far left. Joseph Goebbels would be proud.

NNTX's avatar

And that same media is one of the primary culprits for the division and ensuing chaos we face as a country now.

Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Typo in headline. Should say legacy media. They are butchers who are memory holing their complicity in child mutilation.

Yolanda Pritam Hari's avatar

we said Yuri. But butchers are more artful

Kurt's avatar

Good catch. I looked up legia and found legiant, a form of legend, then wasn’t going to post about it. But here you are.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

There is a flood of de-transitioner lawsuits on the way and the legacy media will be forced to cover them. And I'm sure that doctors who practice gender affirming care are emailing each other like crazy.

Gitch's avatar

Bring on the purp walks! I'll make popcorn

Richard's avatar

The emails will be evidence.

Kick Nixon's avatar

Monetary compensation is insufficient for justice to be served. Anyone in the chain of responsibility should be punished by forfeiture of license to practice at a minimum. Any professionals without a license such as school counselors should be fired. Anyone even tangentially involved with this should also be sued, eg., hospital boards, hospital executives, members of medical ethics departments, and most of all professional organizations which provided the "standard of care" cover necessary to promote this abomination, eg., American Association of Clinical Endocrinology, American Academy of Pediatrics, and chiefly WPATH.

NNTX's avatar

IIRC, Biden’s “Admiral ‘Rachel’ Levine” was key to convincing WPATH to remove specific age restrictions in their “recommendations” for treatment of trans individuals

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

I just opened an email from LGB United: “Just days after a New York jury delivered a $2 million verdict in the world’s first detransition lawsuit, the American Society of Plastic Surgeons (ASPS) issued new guidelines to limit ‘gender affirming’ surgeries to patients who are at least 19 years old.” And so it begins!

Roberta L's avatar

They'll continue to push these lies through social media and the schools. Young people are maturing later and later, making stupid mistakes earlier generations were only vulnerable to in middle school.

This victory is a start, but the war on our children continues.

Future Zek's avatar

30 years from now this "gender affirming" crap will be looked on with the same horror we have for lobotomies.

Headsup's avatar

Omission is the most devious form of censorship.

Only 2 million? Seriously? This was judged to be big time malpractice. Given what others get for much less 'damage', that's surprising to me.

David White's avatar

I prefer the term "passive deception".

Steve G's avatar

“Why the lack of interest by the major news outlets in the land?”

It’s difficult to write from your swooning couch. On another matter if you have children in a school that has “allowed” an ICE protest walk out you need to be at the next school board meeting raising six kinds of hell. Schools are not the place for adults to be pushing a political agenda on YOUR children.

Jen Todd's avatar

The Mengele-zation of the Democrat Party. Unfortunately, this is only one of many symptoms of the metastasized cancer that lives inside of the Democrat party that fervently promotes an anti-science, anti-human, anti-fact ideology. I hope that the dominoes continue to fall as their hideousness continues to be revealed. Ten years of Democrat brown-shirt, Nazi thuggery has been the greatest domestic threat to Americans and American values.

Eric F. ONeill's avatar

As a retired plastic surgeon, I am grateful that my society was finally able to shake off the woke bindings and stop the madness. Should never have happened, but at least, no further harm will occur hopefully. There will always be the rogues who want to keep their money train, but now they won’t have the ASPS to run interference. Any surgeon who proceeds should have their membership revoked.

Sally Sue's avatar

Honestly I was surprised it took this long

I'm in medicine and I did med school rotations 2011-2013. I remember most surgeons were conservative, primary care were extremely liberal. I don't know if it's changed that much in the past 10 years but at least back then, every surgeon I met was conservative and voted GOP. I was an Obama voter back then and they all made fun of me (now I'm a Trump X 3 voter). Fox News always played in the surgeons' lounge.

Not so young anymore.'s avatar

That’s still true. The plastic surgeons are off this gender craziness but the American Academy of pediatrics and the Endocrine society are a huge part of the problem

Sally Sue's avatar

the Catholic hospital I was at, had a nice painting in the surgeons' lounge, showing Jesus Christ performing surgery with the surgeon, with Christ's hands on the surgeon's hands

Marilyn's avatar

Now they (the woke madness) have moved on to going to war with ICE. For now.

Yolanda Pritam Hari's avatar

i so appreciate that YOU cover this and other urgent topics. Thank you. But gosh, by now the lid on pandora's box of globalist secrets must be ready to absolutely explode off. HOW can it hold down anything else?

Alan Wolfson's avatar

You might be shocked. When a story that makes the left look bad gets so big that most on the right become aware of it, suddenly legacy media will cover it. However, they "Cover it" by twisting themselves into knots trying to discredit the way the story was reported by the "non-legacy" media. Examples - the Mueller report (we all know what it said; MSM pivots to "all the Russian contacts" and "ten examples that COULD be Obstruction of Justice"), the 2020 Georgia ballots that were improperly certified (MSM still sticks with "most free and fair election in history"), the "Russiagate" emails released by current DOJ implicating Obama, Clapper, Brennan and Comey in perpetuation disinformation damaging to Trump, etc. etc. etc. You really can live in this country and get two polar opposite versions of the same story.

Yolanda Pritam Hari's avatar

i see that Alan, good point, but it still defies my ability to fathom how this much extremity can be so concealed.

Grieving Father's avatar

This problem is bigger than the doctors. I have two kids who "transitioned" as young adults. I begged, pleaded, offered bribes, did everything I could to get them to reconsider. I was utterly alone, called out as a bigot and transphobe -- and ignored. Literally everyone else in their lives, from doctors to therapists to teachers to friends to other family members to influencers was fiercely supporting and/or advocating for transitioning. Even my own wife fell victim to the lie that she'd have two dead kids by suicide unless she went along with this nonsense. So this is a whole-of-society problem -- and society has lost its collective mind.

But I guess you gotta start somewhere, so I'm delighted to see a couple of doctors pay. I still pray each day that at least one of my kids will come to their senses.

James Mead's avatar

I will put you on my prayer list

Oakley's avatar

You and many other parents are collateral damage from this insanity.

God bless all of your family.

NNTX's avatar

Oh goodness. So very very sorry for you and your children.

May God in His mercy prompt them to discover truth.

Petey Kay's avatar

Bankrupt every last one of them.

Cranky Frankie's avatar

Bari Weiss, when she was fired from the NYT and wrote her exit manifesto suggested that Twitter should be on the Gray Lady's masthead. Now it's Bluesky I guess.

Don't tell those Bryn Mawr and Smith women anything they don't want to hear.