Great picture of you, Sasha, with the poster. I too, along with so many others, was a HUGE fan.
He's an embarrassment now with his TDS. If Springsteen wanted to remain relevant, he should have just sat it out starting about 2015 and rested on his generous laurels. Then he might have been remembered favorably.
I do find it amazing that someone who could write the way he did can be such an empty-headed douche now.
This is a great chance for me to remind everyone that Bruce Springsteen sucks as a musician. Musically his stuff is awful, especially his earlier work where the musicians were often not even in tune. I know he was/is popular, but I never got it. Compositionally, musically and vocally all of his work is subpar. On top of that his faux working class schtick is annoying and off putting. If you want a rock documentary to watch, I highly recommend the recent Netflix film on Led Zeppelin.
Agreed about the faux working class schtick, but this is WAY off-base, a massively ignorant comment concerning the music he has made. He was an extraordinary songwriter, and his live show was astoundingly powerful, for decades.
Nothing "subpar" about him other than his morality, his self-awareness, and his intellect.
I think “subpar” is s silly and thoughtless word to describe the work of a figure of Springsteen’s enduring cultural significance. You cannot do what he has done over the past half-century—or, from the early 70s to the early 90s anyway—with "subpar" music.
It’s not about opinion. "Subpar", which means "below average", would be a measure of quality as compared with his peers. Probably the negative comments about his music are more about taste, and perhaps misunderstanding his musical genre. I can’t stand the music of Michael Jackson, and apparently he was a true sicko/pedo, but he was similarly (to Springsteen) a massively successful songwriter/performer of immense cultural significance. Whatever I think of him or his music, he’s not “subpar”. More like "annoying", to my ear.
You're correct, that's not an accurate description. I'd say (and I'm not including all the songs he wrote, because I'm not familiar enough with them) my personal description is "lacking talent". I just never got into his songs and his hoarse, screaming voice much at all and didn't think they were that great. But I think there's a big handful of songs that the Beatles did that weren't that great, too and the same goes for some other "big names".
I actually thought his first two albums were his best. But I also preferred Bob Dylan in his 1960's era. I haven't heard any of BS' music after "Born to Run."
I like that one, too, mainly because of "Tangled Up in Blue." I believe that was his comeback album after his motorcycle crash. I know several others came out after "Another Side of Bob Dylan," but that was his first new material after he was fully recovered.
I used to be a big Springsteen fan, but then, about 2015, Chris Christy, while governor, praised Bruce like he was the second coming @ a NJ concert, and Springsteen responded with a big public F*** You - didn’t make sense at the time, still doesn’t, seemed like a cheap shot. Sad.
His 2ND!!! self-indulgent Biopic after "Road Diary". He already did one that my sister-in-law, a true lib, forced me to go see (with my wife). Boring and dull.
People are good with political statements delivered through music. The problem was him joining the cool kids on the left. I always assumed all of the artists and actors were left-wing, and I never cared. I still don't now except for the ones that are so righteous that they have to lecture us, encourage boycotts, and rub it in our faces. Bruce joined that group, and many of us quit caring. Neil Young wanted Spotify to cancel Rogan for spreading COVID misinformation. People love artists that fight the man, but we all quit caring when the are The Man or join The Man in stomping us.
most "political statements" by songwriters are generic. They aren't personally targeted at a specific politician and therefore are acceptable. Who does not agree with Joni Mitchell's "Big Yellow Taxi" sentiments. Or Marvin Gaye singing about the tragedy of Vietnam with "What's Going On"? Even Country Joe & the Fish doing "Feel Like I'm Fixin' to Die Rag" were just fine, even with conservative old me. THAT is song-writing. "Born to Run" was just another teenage rebellion song. Again, 100% of kids agree. Where did THAT Bruce Springsteen go.
You know where that Bruce went. He got older and famous and had kids. Even in Born in the USA he wrote a song Glory Days about the past. Marvin Gay wrote what was probably one of the top songs of the last 70 years but he was angry and high when he wrote it. After that he was too high to write anything more except Sexual Healing and then got killed because he was out of control.
Somehow we indoctrinated our kids well enough with common sense they have stayed on the right side, even in Minnesota. It must be tough with many of their friends gone left. My grandkids are on the right track. My daughter is home-schooling and takes the grandkids to area farms for special field trips
Glad things are going correctly for you. Thank God!
After nearly 40 years on Active Duty (USAF and US Public Health Service), Girl Scouting, team sports, and most importantly, faith in her upbringing from birth, none of it stopped the transition left. Her husband works at a big university, that’s the issue. He has TDS worse than she does.
"Big University".... you mean indoctrination factory. That IS the problem. My kids did not make it through college and I didn't care. They did not need all that mind-control, and it wasn't as bad before 2010 as it is now.
Sorry to hear. I worked in higher ed for a generation and was lucky enough to emerge and retire intact. Of course I was in a very technical area and not the squishy, feely foggy bottom of the humanities. Hell, several of us even worked on the Trump campaigns of 2020 and 2024.
Glad I was a student in the mid-70s. You could get a glimpse of the coming veer to the left but most professors were no-nonsense WW2 and Korea types. Now, I would not recommend it, especially for young, bright minds.
This is so sad. We are lucky enough that our kids and grands are filled with common sense. Sent our kids and grands to parochial grade schools and then warned them about indoctrination happening at high schools and colleges. Go along with the BS to get a good grades but NEVER change your beliefs. So far it has worked.
I was like you Sasha, a teenager when my Springsteen fandom began. Loved him!!!! We started with Greetings from Asbury Park and The Wild the Innocent, and then it was off to the races. He really went off the rails with Obama, as so so many celebrities did. I was losing interest by then anyway just due to age & life stages, but boy howdy, when the TDS began he totally lost me. Except for a very few old favorites, I won’t even listen to his music anymore. He almost matched Robert De Niro in the TDS category, and that guy was frothing at the mouth!
What an embarrassment these "Entertainers" are. They are the biggest hypocritical narcissists on the planet.
The greatest country in the world all gave them their opportunities to succeed, become wealthy and never have to work another day in their life.
YET, they need to constantly be in the spotlight. If I had made the money these people made I would retire, spend as much time with my family as I possibly can.
I wouldn't be going on the news ranting TDS hatred and stupidity.
My favorites are the anti-capitalist entertainers, as if there's a lot of money to be made under all of the socialist and communist regimes of the world.
You mean like Jane Fonda? Born with a silver spoon from her parents; naturally resentful of the system that provided her with that spoon; but would do anything to be part of that system, including softcore porn (Barbarella) and now resents the system that provided for her Malibu home and friendship with buddies like Barbra Streisand. You mean that confused, sad, psychopath?
Look at you in that picture.... I was in high school in the 80's. Hard to believe it's that long ago and even harder to believe the changes in life, politics, technology, and culture we are dealing with now. I don't know whether to be optimistic or pessimistic for the balance of my years on this little planet.
Thank you Sasha. During my lifetime I have seen a lot of singers that have been over promoted that when they fail, they fail hard. At least, I prefer instrumental music.
Bruce is one of Rock's false prophets. A Billionaire who talks about his working class hero persona as if it were real. His music is full of musical cliches, and his lyrics are full of lyric cliches. The tracks he produces are very square--no groove. The arrogance of his album of Motown hits is insulting to the memory of Marvin Gaye and Jackie Wilson and to the Commodores and all the other musicians and singers.
And what is with the permanent orange tan glow he wears?
And what can you say about a man who writes working class hero songs but flies his daughter's horse to the European horse shows in a private jet?
Maybe it's me but I just have a hard time believing people that are 100 millionaire can claim to speak for [us] average working people. I just don't pay attention to what they say. This doesn't mean I don't enjoy the music or the art or the performance but I just wish they would stop preaching from their mansions.
The Left, rather poetically, has delivered him to nowhere.
🤣😂
He delivered himself to nowhere.
Isn’t the title the clue to how Springsteen has lost his own purpose? When one says they come from nowhere (vs working class NJ) it is telling.
Beware those caught up in delusions of grandeur.
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Great picture of you, Sasha, with the poster. I too, along with so many others, was a HUGE fan.
He's an embarrassment now with his TDS. If Springsteen wanted to remain relevant, he should have just sat it out starting about 2015 and rested on his generous laurels. Then he might have been remembered favorably.
I do find it amazing that someone who could write the way he did can be such an empty-headed douche now.
This is a great chance for me to remind everyone that Bruce Springsteen sucks as a musician. Musically his stuff is awful, especially his earlier work where the musicians were often not even in tune. I know he was/is popular, but I never got it. Compositionally, musically and vocally all of his work is subpar. On top of that his faux working class schtick is annoying and off putting. If you want a rock documentary to watch, I highly recommend the recent Netflix film on Led Zeppelin.
This, exactly. Springsteen has NEVER been anything but some weird promo thing. Never got it
Spring who? Give me Karen and Richard Carpenter any day. Now THEY are class musicians.
Karen Carpenter had the most remarkable singing voice I ever heard, male or female. I was lucky to hear her songs on the radio as they were released.
Yup, I never liked his music. And the Led Zeppelin film rocked!
Agreed about the faux working class schtick, but this is WAY off-base, a massively ignorant comment concerning the music he has made. He was an extraordinary songwriter, and his live show was astoundingly powerful, for decades.
Nothing "subpar" about him other than his morality, his self-awareness, and his intellect.
To each their own opinion and I’ll go with those who found him subpar.
I think “subpar” is s silly and thoughtless word to describe the work of a figure of Springsteen’s enduring cultural significance. You cannot do what he has done over the past half-century—or, from the early 70s to the early 90s anyway—with "subpar" music.
It’s not about opinion. "Subpar", which means "below average", would be a measure of quality as compared with his peers. Probably the negative comments about his music are more about taste, and perhaps misunderstanding his musical genre. I can’t stand the music of Michael Jackson, and apparently he was a true sicko/pedo, but he was similarly (to Springsteen) a massively successful songwriter/performer of immense cultural significance. Whatever I think of him or his music, he’s not “subpar”. More like "annoying", to my ear.
You're correct, that's not an accurate description. I'd say (and I'm not including all the songs he wrote, because I'm not familiar enough with them) my personal description is "lacking talent". I just never got into his songs and his hoarse, screaming voice much at all and didn't think they were that great. But I think there's a big handful of songs that the Beatles did that weren't that great, too and the same goes for some other "big names".
All he did was scream…..there was nothing ‘musical’ about it.
I actually thought his first two albums were his best. But I also preferred Bob Dylan in his 1960's era. I haven't heard any of BS' music after "Born to Run."
I like Dylan material from the 60s, but my favorite album came out in 1975, Blood on the Tracks.
I like that one, too, mainly because of "Tangled Up in Blue." I believe that was his comeback album after his motorcycle crash. I know several others came out after "Another Side of Bob Dylan," but that was his first new material after he was fully recovered.
No, his motorcycle crash was in 1966 and Blood on the Tracks was released in 1975.
"Empty-headed douche". Nice turn of phrase
Thank you. :)
I sent the article about Springsteen when it first came out to my friends and literally said, “fucking douche!” 😂
I used to be a big Springsteen fan, but then, about 2015, Chris Christy, while governor, praised Bruce like he was the second coming @ a NJ concert, and Springsteen responded with a big public F*** You - didn’t make sense at the time, still doesn’t, seemed like a cheap shot. Sad.
I came here to say this - except probably not as well as you did.
Bruce who? Is this a story about a bitter burnout narcissist pissed off because no one gives a shit about him?
Narcissist is right. Proof wisdom doesn’t come automatically with age.
His 2ND!!! self-indulgent Biopic after "Road Diary". He already did one that my sister-in-law, a true lib, forced me to go see (with my wife). Boring and dull.
Bruce long ago forgot the famous Michael Jordan quote, “Republicans buy sneakers too”
I’m waiting for the biopic “Wrapped Up Like a Douche: The Bruce Springsteen Story”
I think in some ways that was this movie.
That is funny!
John Cafferty And The Beaver Brown Band... But definitely sounds like Springsteen.
People are good with political statements delivered through music. The problem was him joining the cool kids on the left. I always assumed all of the artists and actors were left-wing, and I never cared. I still don't now except for the ones that are so righteous that they have to lecture us, encourage boycotts, and rub it in our faces. Bruce joined that group, and many of us quit caring. Neil Young wanted Spotify to cancel Rogan for spreading COVID misinformation. People love artists that fight the man, but we all quit caring when the are The Man or join The Man in stomping us.
Neil Young should have remembered a Southern man don’t need him around anyhow.
Lynnyrd approves of this
I cannot express how colossally disappointed I was in Neil Young when he pulled that bullshit...
And being pro vaxx with 2 autistic kids even...
most "political statements" by songwriters are generic. They aren't personally targeted at a specific politician and therefore are acceptable. Who does not agree with Joni Mitchell's "Big Yellow Taxi" sentiments. Or Marvin Gaye singing about the tragedy of Vietnam with "What's Going On"? Even Country Joe & the Fish doing "Feel Like I'm Fixin' to Die Rag" were just fine, even with conservative old me. THAT is song-writing. "Born to Run" was just another teenage rebellion song. Again, 100% of kids agree. Where did THAT Bruce Springsteen go.
You know where that Bruce went. He got older and famous and had kids. Even in Born in the USA he wrote a song Glory Days about the past. Marvin Gay wrote what was probably one of the top songs of the last 70 years but he was angry and high when he wrote it. After that he was too high to write anything more except Sexual Healing and then got killed because he was out of control.
Try to remember Marvin was murdered by his father, a whole other type of darkness
Yeah, fuck Neil Young. I once respected him too. Turned out he was just another entitled, out-of-touch elitist with authoritarian impulses.
Someone should re-make the needle and the damage done about the COVID vx and shove his face in it.
Still don't get why being on the left now means being in favor of censorship and government coercion as well as war?? What am I missing?
Love the comments here! Love your posts Sasha! Wish my daughter didn’t have TDS. Lost my grandkids too. Very sad.
Somehow we indoctrinated our kids well enough with common sense they have stayed on the right side, even in Minnesota. It must be tough with many of their friends gone left. My grandkids are on the right track. My daughter is home-schooling and takes the grandkids to area farms for special field trips
Glad things are going correctly for you. Thank God!
After nearly 40 years on Active Duty (USAF and US Public Health Service), Girl Scouting, team sports, and most importantly, faith in her upbringing from birth, none of it stopped the transition left. Her husband works at a big university, that’s the issue. He has TDS worse than she does.
"Big University".... you mean indoctrination factory. That IS the problem. My kids did not make it through college and I didn't care. They did not need all that mind-control, and it wasn't as bad before 2010 as it is now.
Yep, really big! He’s been there 20+ years.
Thank-you for your service, Michael. There’s several other military veterans on this site too.
Sorry to hear. I worked in higher ed for a generation and was lucky enough to emerge and retire intact. Of course I was in a very technical area and not the squishy, feely foggy bottom of the humanities. Hell, several of us even worked on the Trump campaigns of 2020 and 2024.
Glad I was a student in the mid-70s. You could get a glimpse of the coming veer to the left but most professors were no-nonsense WW2 and Korea types. Now, I would not recommend it, especially for young, bright minds.
Same here. Awful 😞
Thanks.
Lost most of my family when they found out I was pro Trump. So sad. 😞
This is so sad. We are lucky enough that our kids and grands are filled with common sense. Sent our kids and grands to parochial grade schools and then warned them about indoctrination happening at high schools and colleges. Go along with the BS to get a good grades but NEVER change your beliefs. So far it has worked.
Very sad. 🙏
Thanks. It’s been tough. Their loss.
Very sad indeed. I'm so sorry. You never know though: they could come around; the kids in particular.
To quote the late, great Thurman Munson, and directing this to BS (appropriate initials, indeed): "Retire."
I was like you Sasha, a teenager when my Springsteen fandom began. Loved him!!!! We started with Greetings from Asbury Park and The Wild the Innocent, and then it was off to the races. He really went off the rails with Obama, as so so many celebrities did. I was losing interest by then anyway just due to age & life stages, but boy howdy, when the TDS began he totally lost me. Except for a very few old favorites, I won’t even listen to his music anymore. He almost matched Robert De Niro in the TDS category, and that guy was frothing at the mouth!
DeNiro.... a once-great actor. Sad
Did you see the Irishman? DeNiro is laughable in it. Almost a caricature. I honestly think he brought he leftist had to his later movies.
He’s older moves are really excellent. I’m not a fan of him anymore.
What an embarrassment these "Entertainers" are. They are the biggest hypocritical narcissists on the planet.
The greatest country in the world all gave them their opportunities to succeed, become wealthy and never have to work another day in their life.
YET, they need to constantly be in the spotlight. If I had made the money these people made I would retire, spend as much time with my family as I possibly can.
I wouldn't be going on the news ranting TDS hatred and stupidity.
My favorites are the anti-capitalist entertainers, as if there's a lot of money to be made under all of the socialist and communist regimes of the world.
You mean like Jane Fonda? Born with a silver spoon from her parents; naturally resentful of the system that provided her with that spoon; but would do anything to be part of that system, including softcore porn (Barbarella) and now resents the system that provided for her Malibu home and friendship with buddies like Barbra Streisand. You mean that confused, sad, psychopath?
LOL Yup
Exactly. They never would have made their success in those other types of countries. The hypocrisy and virtue signaling is astounding.
He's not the boss of me.......
Springsteen is a liberal 'tard. I refuse to listen to his music, which has gotten progressively worse since his apparent head injury in the 90s
Look at you in that picture.... I was in high school in the 80's. Hard to believe it's that long ago and even harder to believe the changes in life, politics, technology, and culture we are dealing with now. I don't know whether to be optimistic or pessimistic for the balance of my years on this little planet.
Go with optimistic, Jim; you can always change your mind if things go south.
The clip from the film is a parody of every movie made about a tortured artist, but worse.
Thank you Sasha. During my lifetime I have seen a lot of singers that have been over promoted that when they fail, they fail hard. At least, I prefer instrumental music.
Bruce is one of Rock's false prophets. A Billionaire who talks about his working class hero persona as if it were real. His music is full of musical cliches, and his lyrics are full of lyric cliches. The tracks he produces are very square--no groove. The arrogance of his album of Motown hits is insulting to the memory of Marvin Gaye and Jackie Wilson and to the Commodores and all the other musicians and singers.
And what is with the permanent orange tan glow he wears?
And what can you say about a man who writes working class hero songs but flies his daughter's horse to the European horse shows in a private jet?
Nice work if you can get it.
Maybe it's me but I just have a hard time believing people that are 100 millionaire can claim to speak for [us] average working people. I just don't pay attention to what they say. This doesn't mean I don't enjoy the music or the art or the performance but I just wish they would stop preaching from their mansions.