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Felix's avatar

Hey Luis, you want to know what was staged? The 2024 Democratic Convention. Supposedly Trump is the dire threat to our "democracy". Get a life, get a clue, and get a brain.

Tom Kennedy's avatar

Around 46-47% of Democrats, according to a recent Manhattan Institute poll, believe the July 2024 assassination attempt on Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, was staged (orchestrated by his supporters to generate sympathy). Luis is a mainstream believer in staged assassination attempts on Trump from the left

It's kind of frightening how stupid these people are. MSNOW is way more dangerous than I thought.

Rick's avatar

Luis just wants to be accepted into the juvenile and demented community he imagines will accept him. He’s only so useful, so in due time he’ll be discarded, like a disposable diaper. Maybe it depends…

Brian M's avatar

I am for free speech. But there must be limits. It is suicidal for a nation to allow completely irresponsible hate speech that does nothing but make the country less safe for everyone. This hatred will not stop until there is punishment in some form. Hatred like this does not resolve to love. It just becomes ever deeper hatred, until something blows. 1860, 1939 and 1968 among other years, taught us that lesson

Brian M's avatar

I asked Gemini if there were any speeches, written or spoken, prior to the Civil War that violated the Constitution (despite the 1st Amendment). Here is the answer I got back. To me this answer is inadequate because it never answers the question. Again, given the state of our country today, SCOTUS needs to be asked this question in the form of a lawsuit and then provide an answer that deals with intent. The Founders never intended to support speech that led to revolution and violence against the People the Constitution is supposed to protect:

To assess whether any speeches prior to the Civil War violated the Constitution, consider the following points:

The First Amendment protects freedom of speech, including political discourse.

Some speeches incited violence or rebellion, raising questions about their legality.

The Sedition Act of 1798 limited speech against the government, but its constitutionality was debated.

Abolitionist speeches faced backlash and censorship in pro-slavery states.

Courts often upheld free speech rights, but context and intent were crucial in legal interpretations.

Overall, while some speeches were controversial, many were protected under the Constitution.

KEVIN PEARSON's avatar

What about the beating of a US Senator with a cane in the Senate chamber?

Brian M's avatar

I would say Fatwas are a good example of unacceptable hate speech. If issued in a foreign country, it should be illegal to publish them in America. I also think for politicians, especially minority leaders to call for or imply the violent death of their opposition or otherwise make a call to go to war with the opposition are also unprotected hate speech and need to be punished. This should at least be tested at the Supreme Court. It has ruled both ways on this issue in the past, but SCOTUS must surely want what is best for the country and needs to start contributing to defending the intent of the Constitution, which includes no protection for hate speech (there is nothing in the 1st Amendment that says: "Including Freedom to express hatred and advocate violence"). Are Charlie Hebdo's religious cartoons "hate speech"? I think making fun of religious figures is not "hate", though it is highly offensive and might result in a Fatwa. I am not offended by the movie "Life of Brian". It is in the grey zone, so probably should be avoided.

Jen Todd's avatar

Fatwas are an all out death threat and I agree they should not be protected as free speech. What about Maxine Waters inciting her constituents to confront and harass Trump administration officials? Or rabid lefties fomenting Allen Cole into action? Is that protected speech? Charlie Hebdo's free speech provocations ended with them being slaughtered. France limits free speech in reguard to incitement (among other things according to AI). Was Charlie Hebdo rebuked? Maybe they should have been as it might have saved them from a tragedy. What's undeniable is that we are responsible for what we say and there might be unfortunate consequences one way or another. What's absolutely off the rails are dem officials and their lackeys saying what they're saying and using free speech as their shield.

Jen Todd's avatar

What I love seeing is this administration slapping back the fecklessness shits.

VICKI's avatar

Exactly, you should be sending or calling anyone in govt you can, all their 202 numbers are listed and probably today email addresses, call your local gov't officials, sen, and congressman offices, they document all calls. This is outrageous to call for the death of a fellow American or official. That's as bad as yelling fire in a theater, so how is it different????

Brian M's avatar

It isn't different which is how Charlie Kirk was asssassinated and why there have been three attempts on Trump's life. Causing people with mental issues to act out is a crime. It is called "Inciting Violence", one of the only speech hate crimes. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/373

Ellen's avatar

But the powers that shouldn't be can't be trusted to draw those lines in the right places.

With those powers, hate speech can become calling a man "he" for the second time when he's pretending to be a she,

Or shaing true info about vaccine harms,

Or saying All Lives Matter,

Or saying Genocide is always wrong (that's what Candace Owens said that got her into a lot of trouble and false accusations)

or anything they want to define as hate speech ...

Brian M's avatar

You are right. It is why we have courts, though all low level judges do not view their role as justice, but sometimes political (what they call "social" justice). I trust the Supreme Court, even though I do not agree with all their decisions. The three liberal judges on the SC are mostly interested in delivering political wins for the Left and disregard the Constitution.

Jan Hus's avatar

Either the Manhattan Institute is one rogue pollster or 46-47% of Democrats practice Doublethink.

la chevalerie vit's avatar

There are a heck of a lot of people since 2020 who work very hard at rejecting the reality in plain sight while stoned drunk on narrative koolaid.

Bill Bradford's avatar

Even if Butler, PA attempt WAS "staged", it was NOT staged by "Trump supporters".....It could ONLY have been "staged" by Trump's puppet-masters.....think about it....

Jeff Lynn's avatar

Why would his "puppet masters" use the young untested Thomas Crooks to fire that shot that grazed Trumps ear. A. Is the the preferred outcome of the 'puppet masters'; to create sympathy for Trump in the upcoming election? or B. His 'puppte masters' wanted him dead, which makes zero sense.

In either case your presumption is ludicrious. Let's not forget Mr. Competore and the two others that were wounded. Think about it.............

Mike Gustine's avatar

Because the goal wasn't to kill him but to send him a message. I don't believe it was staged at all, but it's not hard to think of reasons why it might have been.

Jeff Lynn's avatar

Except one is dead and 3 were injured, 2 seriously. If Trump had not turned his head????????????????? Tough message!

Mike Gustine's avatar

I was just speculating why people might think it was. As I said, I don't think it was staged.

Not Me's avatar

Who would stage a shooting where the bullet brushes along the side of your face?

Jan Hus's avatar

"The truth, Winston, is whatever The Party says it is." ----- Orwell

Doingmybest's avatar

Wilt trump is a threat to our democracy for very much the same reasons.In fact, continuing the erosion of section two thirty that was supported by biden. Democrats oppose this.Human rights organizations opposed this and now marsha, blackburn and a whole bunch of republicans also want to do this.

Emily Terrell's avatar

“Our democracy” is a democrat dog whistle. We live in a constitutional republic for good reason.

If the democrats really cared about democracy they would have had a primary instead of installing Harris.

If democrats were honest they’d accept the free will of the people that overwhelmingly voted in the president of their choice.

If democrats cared about freedom they wouldn’t have gone full totalitarian during covid.

If democrats cared about racism they wouldn’t fight straw-men by literally paying for racism because the reality is the demand for legitimate bogeymen for them to hate outstrips the supply.

The democrats have zero legitimacy. Their claim to the moral high ground is absurdity.

Brian M's avatar

Democrats are doing everything possible, including gerrymandering, lying, creating NGO, union and govt fraud kickback schemes and supporting illegal aliens voting in elections, to gain a permanent majority in Congress and control the Executive and Judicial branches for the forseeable future. Democrats will do literally anything, legal or not, to become the authoritarians they project on the GOP.

VICKI's avatar

Could you please explain that more clearly? I have no idea what it's about. Section 230?

Bill Bradford's avatar

Read Article IV, Section IV, of the U.S. Constitution.....then get back to me....

Brian M's avatar

Did not follow your argument regarding Art IV, Sec IV. This is also called the "Guarantee Clause" that requires states, though semi-sovereign, to be electoral Republics with majority rule. There can be no tyrannies at the state level and no appointed government. Who is suggesting that? (though sometimes the Dems make you wonder about their commitment to democracy) https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/articles/article-iv/clauses/42

Bill Bradford's avatar

No, it says we shall have a...."Republican form of government....", NOT "electoral Republics", - almost but not quite the same thing. Crucial point, we are NOT a "democracy", we are a Republic. So when Dems talk about "our democracy", they're spouting political hogwash.... We should have NO "commitment to democracy". Your democracy IS THE ENEMY....

Brian M's avatar

I think you are overreacting to the word "democracy". That implies one man, one vote as a popular vote. We live in a Representative Republic where we vote for representatives who then vote for the elected official. With technology today, we could revert to a straight up democracy, without the representative intermediary. But that would require the Constitution to be amended. Not easy. "Republic" just means a grouping of states that have some degree of sovereignty. This comes from the Roman Empire which had to use the Republican form to manage its vast empire. American states do not have near the sovereignty of Roman states. The 10th amendment limits sovereignty to only what is not proscribed / dictated or implied by the Constitution. The Federal government also has the Supremacy Clause and so anything that is legislated at the Federal level overrules the state level. For this reason, "Sanctuary" status for a city or state that overrides Federal law on immigration and its enforcement is unConstitutional, though it has never been presented to the Supreme Court properly to prove that point. Immigration is a Federal issue, which was established by the SC in 2023 when Arizona tried to enforce its own border but was told it did not have that power. Federal voting laws also are supreme over state laws and so states MUST adhere to citizenship for voters on Federal elections and also due process laws, as was proved in 2024 in Colorado when its own state supreme court was overridden by the Federal Supreme Court regarding Trump's eligibility for election. Louisiana just got overriden by the Supreme Court on racially biased districts and was told to get race out of its districting. So let's not get carried away by the idea of "republic"

BeMac's avatar

I wish we would all ignore Jimmy Kimmel...he's not funny and his entire schtick is ridicule.

That's straight out of the book Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky...

ask Hillary about it, she wrote her senior thesis at Wellesley all about Rules for Radicals

Orenv's avatar

I ignore him. I have never seen one of his shows. I wouldn't care if ABC raised his salary by a factor of 10 and signed a 20 year contract. But it would be funny for them to pay him for a poor product for decades.

Brian M's avatar

not if you are a Disney investor, as unfortunately I am

Orenv's avatar

Choosing political sides is bad for business.

RyGuy Schnei's avatar

Jimmy is NOT profitable is the craziest thing. His show is a money pit for the network and has been for years. It’s just that he’s been able to hide behind “caving to Trump Tyranny!”, to force them to keep him on. At this point, they would have to declare bankruptcy before they could get rid of him.

Not that I’d shed a tear; they are a garbage network from the top down. So Jimmy dragging them down to obsolescence hell with him is a good thing.

Keith Jajko's avatar

Kimmel's show is entirely funded and propped up by Pharma $$$. The more Pharma Phanatics are threated by RFK Jr., the harsher Kimmel gets. There is a correlation.

Kimmel should wear Pfizer and Moderna patches on his slick well-tailored coat.

Ellen's avatar

Yep .. "rest in peace, Wheezy ..." - evil. *That* is literally murderous speech, saying the unvaccinated shouldn't get ICU beds ... But still something feels wrong with how they're making especially big deals about words, more lately ...

Kurt's avatar

That’s why I don’t have a TV. Happy for is and there are so many more hours in day. Teehee

Not Me's avatar

Same here. I read much more than I watch TV.

Not Me's avatar

I’ve never seen Jimmy Kimmel…guess I’ll keep it that way.

Mike Gustine's avatar

I do. My wife used to watch him, and some of the jokes about Trump were actually kind of funny, but the fact that he talks about literally nothing else (well, other admin officials, of course do get some time) quickly becomes tiring, which is why my wife stopped watching him (she also saw that it pissed me off). The thing is, Trump lives rent free in Kimmel's head. Kimmel literally has nothing else. It's pathetic and crazy that he makes no money for the network, yet they keep him on, probably because Trump lives rent free in the heads of his bosses as well. Sad.

MichaelH: Storyteller's avatar

The "staged assassination" card was played after Butler AND the idiot at the golf course. The leftists are well versed at trying to place blame at the feet of those harmed while THEY are the real culprits. They KNOW it was a leftist wing-nut who made yet another feeble attempt on President Trump's life and they want desperately to take everyone's focus from that fact.

One of the first things they learn in life is "Do as I say, not as I do." After that is the lesson, "Rules for thee but not for me."

They can't stand it when any of their ilk are caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

Jan Hus's avatar

The rants of "staged assassination" from the likes of Joy Reid & Jasmine Crockett should be related to the level of the conspiracy theorists who discredit the Moon landings' veracity!

Richard's avatar

They think that about Butler too. Hell if a shot to get Trump in the ear. And what about Contredore and the two wounded.

Steenroid's avatar

For the love of all that is holy don’t confuse that pea brains with facts and logic. Feelings is all they understand.

JJoshua's avatar

That’s right. They think 100% on emotions. 0% logic Or rational thought. TDS is a big part of that

RyGuy Schnei's avatar

More precisely, they think entirely on emotionally driven “Underdog Dialectics”. To be clear I don’t arbitrarily hate underdogs in general (but not all underdogs are automatically correct “just arbitrarily because”, either), but I have ABSOLUTELY come to utterly LOATHE all forms of Hegelian Dialectical thinking and application of that thought process into republican theory for the last 150 years has been an absolute catastrophe.

If I could use a Time Machine to kill one evil man before he came to influence anything, it wouldn’t be Hitler, it would be Hegel!

R H's avatar

Agreed. Ignore them like the fenceposts they are. Reason, observable facts, and logic have no effect on the demonic, lunatic left.

MichaelH: Storyteller's avatar

I've been saying for well over a year that leftist logic is an oxymoron.

Dena's avatar

They think all their feelings are reality. Like children or Peter Pan. One ex. is feeling like you’re born in the wrong body. Can be disastrous. Then to compound the problem others affirm or take advantage of your feelings ( emotions). Think about all the feelings you’ve had that were misleading or not based in reality, that you only figured out after the fact. Hopefully gaining wisdom from the experience. Learning to manage emotions/ feelings is key to a happy & grounded life. Some never figure it out, it’s part of what makes them susceptible to crazy theories.

Christopher B's avatar

Corey Comperatore

Plus the shooter wound up shoot by the Secret Service in that case. Now in theory that could have been the favorite plot device of 'eliminate the patsy' but that requires you to believe the same Secret Service that was headed up by a BFF of DOCTOR Jill Biden, denied protection to RFK Jr as well as some notable Republicans, and that the Trump campaign had been complaining was assigning randomly selected B-teamers (like the lady agent who couldn't get her gun out of the holster) to his events would just happen to assemble a team that was willing to go along with an elaborate ruse that not only resulted in Trump being wounded but two dead as well.

Richard's avatar

If I am remembering correctly, the problem was with reholstering. Short of gunfights, that is the most dangerous thing you do with a gun and something every trainer obsesses about. More recently a SS agent on Dr. Jill's detail shot himself that way.

Elaine Eike's avatar

Plus, a sniper blew the shooter's head off.

Jan Hus's avatar

Doublethink is a growing meditation method. Clinging to two contradictory narratives is so convenient. Who needs facts and logic?

steven t koenig's avatar

Somebody needs to check Mr Albizu's immigration status

DuchessofNYC's avatar

Whoah, is that a joke? In a column where Stone upfront adamantly defends the right free speech, however odious, you want to go full McCarthy and just deport people you disagree with? That's how you're gonna win the argument? Hey Sasha, do you want to address this part of your audience that uses what you write to affirm their own knee-jerk beliefs?

Limbaughnut123's avatar

The BEST way to deal with Kimmel is to..........TURN the CHANNEL!!!!! I am SURE LEFTISTS were OK with KIMMEL and his "Karl Malone" blackface skit....and him asking women.............."WHAT IS IN MY PANTS"!!!!!! Missed those???? Look them up, if they have not been scrubbed by YouTube!!!!!

Paul Scofield's avatar

Oh goody, yet another 'Free Speech' absolutist. In case you do not know it, your grace, neither the Bill of Rights nor the Constitution were written to be suicide pacts. Grow up.

Anthony S Burkett's avatar

"Freedom of Speech" doesn't exist if those you disagree with are censored.

DuchessofNYC's avatar

I think your argument then is not with me but with Sasha who defended Kimmel's right to say what he said regardless of how contemptible. What I was objecting to is this notion that you should report someone to immigration to question their legal status just cause you disagree with them. Which is what Koenig above was suggesting....

Clarity Seeker's avatar

I support Kimmels right to say whatever he pleases. As I do mine: he is a whore

Dena's avatar

Sasha doesn’t really police the comments. It all works out.

DuchessofNYC's avatar

Ya, I came on a bit hot this morning...I reread my comment and realized it may have come off a bit more aggro than warranted. Sorry to be insulting, Sasha

Anthony S Burkett's avatar

"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" - Evelyn Beatrice Hall

Keith Jajko's avatar

I used that exact quote, with the sourcing, in a Jenna's Side (Jenna McCarthy) feature on Substack a couple of weeks back.

Anthony S Burkett's avatar

It's one of my favorite quotes... many attribute it to Voltaire... A funny aside... I don't know if it still is, but years ago, that quote was the byline of the Indianapolis Star Newspaper... hilariously, for a major newspaper, it was attributed to Abraham Lincoln... LingOL!

Keith Jajko's avatar

That last part!! 😆😆😆

Yes, in Jenna's article, I explained it was Hall's quote, simply explaining Voltaire’s attitude. Good stuff.

Ashby McDonald's avatar

Why? Because he does not have an anglo-saxon last name?

Come on - immigration status would be THE LEAST of our problems with this guy.

Ol’ Country Gal's avatar

Whoa! You read my mind!

HAVUK's avatar

"Assassination nation" what a sad and evocative term. Leaving Kimmel to his own, is the best thing to do. Let him be ugly and he'll only get uglier.

The upside of freedom of speech is we know where the baddies are.

Jan Hus's avatar

"Kim-wit Strikes Again!" --- NY Post

PapayaSF's avatar

I agree it makes no sense for Trump to fake assassination attempts and that he’s not Hitler, but he *does* have a grand plan: MAGA and a Golden Age. He is an entertainer, but even entertainers have to plan: reality TV shows don’t just grow on their own, and neither do skyscrapers or victorious presidential campaigns.

I realized he had a grand plan when this term started. Killing USAID wasn’t just about saving money on foreign aid: it defunded a big part of the domestic left. DOGE also wasn’t just about saving money: it got him sysadmin control of federal computer systems, making it hard for the Deep State to plot against him and seizing enormous amounts of valuable evidence. Now add in his Norman Vincent Peale/New Thought background and his big ego. I’ll bet he has a secret GANTT chart with a multi-year timeline for draining the swamp, defeating Democrats and the left, solving huge problems like the national debt, and giving him an unmatched political legacy. Doesn’t that sound like something Trump would do?

Gitch's avatar

Hear hear Papaya! 👏

PapayaSF's avatar

Thank you. To say a little more: In no way do I mean to criticize our gracious hostess for not seeing this. Trump is a student of Sun Tzu and goes out of his way to appear reactive, thin-skinned, and unthinking. Even the Kimmel brouhaha can be seen as part of this. It's a strategic advantage in his larger battles (and good in deal-making) if people underestimate him and think: “He’s dumb and doesn’t realize this won’t do anything.”

Dena's avatar

Master troller.

NNTX's avatar

Totally agree. And we are seeing the results in real time. Last year was for appointments, OBB, fixing the border and other “set the table” actions. Anyone paying attention can see the fantastic (best in my lifetime) cabinet and how well they are managing multiple issues. This year is about unwinding the decrepit and not fit for purpose “new world order”/globalist regime(s), dealing with big threats overseas and notably, in our hemisphere, consolidating our position as energy dominant and the home of liberty (thank you Harmeet Dhillon), plus exposing how much of the Left/Dem rests on an architecture of fraud (SPLC, USAID, Act Blue etc as well as ridiculous spending in SNAP, Medicaid, etc). Many more things to celebrate, including some recent indictments for COVID crooks and the odious Comey.

PapayaSF's avatar

Indeed. I think Trump’s overall direction is clear, even if we may be disappointed that things aren’t happening faster. He’s not making the mistakes that Biden’s minions did, rushing things like dubious J6 prosecutions, open borders, and pushing hardcore trans ideology. Trump is doing things more carefully, to ensure they'll stick legally and to not get too far ahead of public sentiment.

NNTX's avatar

I agree. He had 4 years in the wilderness to plan. That said, he faces extraordinary opposition from Dems and many Rs as well, not to mention an entrenched deep state and unreliable allies abroad. I am amazed at what has been accomplished! However, having worked professionally on large scale corporate turnarounds and transformations, my experience might have made me a bit more realistic.

In any case, it is good to be THANKFUL for what progress is made. :)

Outlaw18's avatar

To think that people somehow believe that Trump has the power or the people in Administration have the powers to get THREE Democrats to STAGE assassination attempts to make him look sympathetic or raise his pole #s is pretty mind boggling

Dorota's avatar

Only because they projected exactly what they are capable of doing, as usual.

VICKI's avatar

This man is truly sick in the head....hateful and uninformed and unpatriotic...I think you told him all he needs to know but is probably too hateful to accept. These are the dangerous people, they are the enemy of the United States of America. God Bless America!!!!

CA Guy - reasonable thinker's avatar

Sasha, Good points for informing doubters of this 3rd assassination attempt. I watched how quick the Dems in my area in california just used the “its stagged” or “security failed” as main talking points. These are College educated with good jobs, not stupid, so I doubt they think for themselves and just auto-vote anything with “D” on the ballot. The Trump hate is really bizarre.

Tim Hurlocker's avatar

As soon as they saw the attempt failed, it became "staged."

Upinthehills's avatar

If they admitted it, they admit that they are the dangerous, unhinged lunatics that they are. They can’t do that.

Jeff Keener's avatar

Good response, Sasha. In a more noble age, Kimmel's insult of Melania would have earned him a private ass-whipping, but in this ludicrous age, Trump would be better off publicly affirming Kimmel's right to be a jackass. He could then prompt Kimmel for more by saying "Come on, Jimmy, is that all you got? Why don't you say what you really want to say." Give Kimmel plenty of rhetorical rope.

Jim I's avatar

If Obama or Biden had experienced over 8 assassination attempts and plots, all politically motivated, a National Emergency would have been declared.

Throw in the televised murder of a black political leader (the equivalent of Charlie Kirk) and we would have had 6 months of riots.

And they would have declared Martial Law

But with Trump — no big deal — the Left is not violent — it was faked.

Roger Pressman's avatar

I agree with your assessment of Kimmel. He a fading celeb working in a fading entertainment segment with a dollop of historical illiteracy and a 55 gallon drum of delusional thinking.

WRT your response to the conspiracy theorist, there’s a quote often attributed to Jonathan Swift: “ You can’t reason someone out of a position they never reasoned themselves into in the first place.” That’s what you’re attempting to do. Won’t work.

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

I disagree. Kimmel is already a martyr in the eyes of the left as Trump is just so mean to him. He needs to go but the way to do that is by turning the advertisers against him. Disney will not do anything unless it hits the bottom line.

JC Penney, Allstate, Starbucks, McDonalds, AT&T, Ford and Capital One advertise on this cretin's show. Get to them and show them how many are disgusted by his expectant widow comment and you'll see him jettisoned.

JBell's avatar

Damn .... I'm gonna miss MickeyD's. The rest I do not partake in.

Jen Todd's avatar

Why should it be removed? It should be countered for its clear disconnect from reality. This needs to be said more often:

"You should be sad that you are this weak-minded. You should try harder to come out of your mass hysteria bubble and try to see things as they are, not as you imagine them to be."