Any “Republican” that says they will vote for a Democrat to get back at Trump or to spite Trump is not a Conservative and is probably not even a Republican. Like Sasha said the Democrats will take their vote and just laugh at them as they walk all over half the country should they get back in the drivers seat
Lots of fake "conservatives", like Bill Kristol, were just in it for themselves. Trump cut off his NGO gravy train. With most of these people, it really is personal.
I agree a lot of these pundits try and play both sides of the fence saying they are the real conservatives yet carrying water for the Democrats. They are definitely “In it for themselves”
Lots of money to be paid from the party of oligarchs, the Democrats, by saying you are a Republican but are supporting Democrats. They eat that up and pay big bucks to hear it, right Liz?! Right Kenzinger?
Not anymore. The GOP is the party of Trump worship. Left and right can agree on that.
If you think people should ask questions about Trump's 15 year+ friendship with Epstein, or the settlement with the IRS that somehow grants his whole family immunity from tax audits and also gives him a $1.776 billion slush fund, or why Trump went to war with Iran seemingly according to a plan created by Israel... then you're not a Republican. Not anymore, anyway.
Actually if you don’t read the court decision about the tax audit word for word YOURSELF you’re not a Republican. Because we are smart enough to know it’s never what the headlines or op-eds say it is. If you actually read it you’d see it’s standard fare and not at all what you were told, that it’s a personal slush fund and they will never be audited again. Try reading court decisions yourself before reposting bullshit narratives.
And this war was NOT created by Israel. That’s ANOTHER lie you’ve been fed and chose to believe.
I don’t follow any of this closely anymore, but the Epstein stuff unfortunately I saw and it always seemed odd how hard he went to the floor on that. Same with MTG, who I’ve always tried to avoid following.
Like…Trump isn’t perfect. But common sense repudiates that entire thing.
Do you mean common sense repudiates the Epstein thing? If so how do you explain the "wonderful secret" birthday letter featuring a notably small-breasted, limbless torso?
I’d have voted against Massie given the chance. If I were his constituent I’d be livid he wasn’t cooperating at all with the President’s agenda. One or two non votes, okay, but ALL of them? And who on the ground cares about the Epstein stuff more than fixing the Left’s damage to the direction of our country? He was good during Covid but yes, he believed his own hype. Sad, but buh-bye and good riddance.
I agree with almost all of this except the generational attribution because without access to the ballots cast, the voter log-in stats, and the personal voter info in the voter registrar's files there is simply no way to know that. And even then it would not be easy to ascertain by age. Rather I suspect it is yet another attempt to sow division. And if you think the polling showed who voted for which candidate I have some ocean front property in Colorado for cheap. Conservatives do not like to be queried about their votes. Not before. Not during. Not after. They will even lie just for the eff you effect. The it was Israel/Aipac is another example of that division. Despite all the bitchin & moanin about the Jewish money so what? I feel pretty certain that no campaign finance laws were violated. The bottom line is that the voters of Kentucky cast Massie aside. As is their prerogative. He had been in office 14 years and it is my understanding he successfully passed one bill. One. He simply did not serve his constituents by being the ever reliable no vote.
For all the people who think that village of Jews in the Middle East is capable of manipulating 350 million Americans so effectively, why aren't you clamoring to have them in charge of everything? That's such an impressive feat that you gotta start wondering if they were chosen for this role millennia prior
It is true insanity and I am sad so many “Americans” are this ignorant and stupid. This is the oldest of blood libels. It is EXACTLY how Hitler turned otherwise normal citizens against their German Jewish neighbors in the 1930s. I thought Americans were better than that. Guess not
Massie was a d*ck. He voted almost always with the Democrats. You piss on the leader of your party you can expect to be shown the door. Massie claimed he was independent and representing his district. BS!! As last night showed, his district wanted MAGA policies, not Massie’s
Massie voted 85% of the time with his party. You’re parroting false stats. But the proof in the pudding is specifically what he voted against. It was ALWAYS the most important and most critical issues we needed and he balked because being a contrarian for those issues gave him the spotlight. He voted with us when it was unimportant to HIS ambitions.
I voted for Massie several (6) times. Not this time (I voted for Gallrein) and not because of Trump. Massie gave up on representing his constituents / me some time ago.
It's probably a good thing these anti-Semites are coming out of the woodwork and exposing themselves this early before the 2028 election. They appear to be aggregating and coalescing. Do they all think that their anti-Jew/anti-Israel/anti-Semite numbers are going to be significant enough to affect an election? They must. Can the rest of America put up with it? The Dems certainly can... But will the Independents?
Amazing what transparency can do. The average voter has common sense, and won’t be fooled long. For the terminally online, my hope and prayer is that they read more widely so they might learn the truth.
Massie was, in the end, an ass impressed with himself. He is reportedly quite bright but not wise at all. His comment about finding Gallrein in Tel Aviv was particularly vile and petty. But then again, so many of those whose true colors have been revealed (thinking of Cassidy, Thune, Tillis and other assorted RINOs) have misapprehended their role. It is not for THEM to lead us, it is for THEM to pay attention to the voters. Yes, there are times when they may have access to additional information to inform voters…so do it and make the case of persuasion. Childish tantrums when these folks receive a “spanking” from voters are below us all.
Massie will likely reemerge as a podbro or whomever. I think the “woke right” is starting to to lose its luster.
As for Trump, my view is, as always, not to worship him but to TRUST his brilliant team and his instincts. LTMW (Let the Man Work).
“I think Massie had never gotten as much attention in his life as he did once he became the anti-Israel guy. “. Ditto, Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly. They say whatever spins the social media meter. Anti-Zionist sentiment, none of them even know what that is, seems to do it for a lot of these Podcasters. It is also driving candidates on the Left like the idiot in Texas.
AIPAC got their man. Clocking in as the most expensive House race in our nation’s history (some $32M spent, and something like $9M from AIPAC). The winner, Ed Gallrein, described it to the press as ‘David beating Goliath’. I hope he was joking. But he probably believes what he says.
Where did @sasha get the idea that there were alot of other people throwing money at this? Who brought the kind of money AIPAC, Adelson, Ellison and all their partners brought to this?
For both candidates, less than 6% of named individual contributions came from zip codes in Kentucky’s 4th district. Also, the $32-$33M spent averages out to $570 per voter. Paul Singer (hedge fund CEO worth $6.7B) donated the most of any individual to the race, and did it through Trump’s PAC. These races are no longer local, they have been nationalized and in Massie’s case, internationalized. The largest city in Kentucky's 4th Congressional District is Covington, which has 41,500 people and located directly across the Ohio river from Cincinnati.
It puts a lie to the Democrats who push both-sides-ism. Anti-semitism is all theirs. Conservatives adhere to the Constitution and the Freedom of Religion, the very basis for America’s existence. Bleating about nasty Jewish influence is against everything this country stands for. The Dems own all those who are anti-semitic
I’ve said it before and say it again. This whole Israel stuff is a right wing and left wing fever dream. These people are insane. Megan Kelly is frothing at the bit to prove Israel defeated Massie. It is INSANE. Trump did not spend more money than Harris and he won BIG. Massie is underfunded and now the money matters…it’s horse manure. I’m done with these crazy people and every one in America needs to vote TRUMP, or it’s gonna get even more fever.
Not “Right wing”. The nut jobs like Fuentes, C Owens and T Carlson that HAD been conservative give that up and go far Left to practice their Marxist hatred and fascism.
Massie was just about his own ego. He wanted to be Mr. Important, and with Trump, Trump is the only one who gets to do that. All Massie ever did was grandstand - look at me, look at me. And I think his anti-Israel shtick was fake too - Massie's biggest donor is an actual Zionist. Good riddance to this clown.
The biggest lie is that Massie is " principled" and doesn't take money from foreign lobbies. Unless they're Islamist terror sponsors, CCP, open borders , anti-American far-left Socialist globalists and far-right /faux libertarian Jew haters. So long as they all hate Israel.
Funny how there was no interest in anything Epstein until the left turned against Israel. Ironically, Epstein was atheist, hated Israel, was working with traitors within Israel to overthrow Netanyahu and Likud since Clinton took office and Netanyahu announced Israel as a " Nation State". He had to go. They tried rigging the election before he won and forever since.
He worked with the PLO, Hamas, the PA, Qatar, Iran, Hezbollah, Iraq and whoever else was virulently anti-Israel and either had converted to Islam or was in the process when he was imprisoned before " suiciding", which as it turns out, may have actually been true.
Epstein was also involved in the Libyan , Ukrainian, Egyptian CIA led regime changes, played both sides of the Russian should we/shouldn't we and basically, every regime change/Color Revolution spanning Clinton to Obama and possibly as far back as HW Bush. He paid off traitors by offering them" great business incentives and connections" and once they bit, owned them by extortion. He wasn't a " Mossad Agent", he was a Rockefeller/CIA globalist bastard. Recruited by Donald Barr.. Bill Barr's CIA Op. Epstein was a Trilateralist, Skull and Bones. Rockefeller University.. name the corrupt globalist agenda top tier player, Epstein had a role. The " sex trafficking"hysteria is crap. Epstein was a sociopath with a predilection for young girls, but 99% were of legal age,consenting and paid. Virginia Giuffre was 16 when she consummated her " relationship" with Epstein and they were in Arizona, where 16 is the legal age of consent.
Massie doesn't give a rat's ass about Epstein's supposed sex-trafficking /pedophilia. If Epstein was Eppington and Israel was Ireland, Indonesia,Iceland,Iraq,Iran or even Illinois,Indiana,Iowa or Ipswich ,Kentucky- he wouldn't bat an eye.
Just as he voted against securing the border and deportation of Mahmoud Khalil, Nermeen Kiswani, Abrego-Garcia.
Also, where is the outrage and chest beating re Bannon, who it turns out was a longtime Epstein/Chomsky colluder? Exactly.
I’m tired of all of this anti-Israel anti-Jewish sentiment. It makes no damn sense. Massie became an idiot over time, a never Trumper. Any decent bill that needed Republican cohesion, Massie was against. Right there with John Thune, both are worthless when it comes to getting important legislation, like the Save America Act, hiding in the sand. They’re both a disgrace. Good Riddance on Massie and hopefully Thune can go away sometime soon too.
Once upon a time Massie was a good libertarian. Then he went round the bend, off the rails and into the weeds, to mince a few metaphors. Good riddance.
He is like some other members of the House. They want to feel important. They want to seem to matter. They don't want to be just a team player to pass the President's agenda. But when you have a 2 seat margin, that's the way it is - either you are a team player or you are on the other side. If the House margin was 20 nobody would care about Massie - he would be ignored. And with President Trump, he is the only one who can be an important top dog.
Any “Republican” that says they will vote for a Democrat to get back at Trump or to spite Trump is not a Conservative and is probably not even a Republican. Like Sasha said the Democrats will take their vote and just laugh at them as they walk all over half the country should they get back in the drivers seat
Lots of fake "conservatives", like Bill Kristol, were just in it for themselves. Trump cut off his NGO gravy train. With most of these people, it really is personal.
I agree a lot of these pundits try and play both sides of the fence saying they are the real conservatives yet carrying water for the Democrats. They are definitely “In it for themselves”
Lots of money to be paid from the party of oligarchs, the Democrats, by saying you are a Republican but are supporting Democrats. They eat that up and pay big bucks to hear it, right Liz?! Right Kenzinger?
I think the dems are just throwing the kitchen sink of ideas to see what floats for conservatives to go turncoat and then vote Dem. AIN'T HAPPENING.
Not anymore. The GOP is the party of Trump worship. Left and right can agree on that.
If you think people should ask questions about Trump's 15 year+ friendship with Epstein, or the settlement with the IRS that somehow grants his whole family immunity from tax audits and also gives him a $1.776 billion slush fund, or why Trump went to war with Iran seemingly according to a plan created by Israel... then you're not a Republican. Not anymore, anyway.
Is that you Barack?
Actually if you don’t read the court decision about the tax audit word for word YOURSELF you’re not a Republican. Because we are smart enough to know it’s never what the headlines or op-eds say it is. If you actually read it you’d see it’s standard fare and not at all what you were told, that it’s a personal slush fund and they will never be audited again. Try reading court decisions yourself before reposting bullshit narratives.
And this war was NOT created by Israel. That’s ANOTHER lie you’ve been fed and chose to believe.
No. You are not Republican at all.
Massie and his clown coterie. Good riddance. What a childish and ungracious loser.
I don’t follow any of this closely anymore, but the Epstein stuff unfortunately I saw and it always seemed odd how hard he went to the floor on that. Same with MTG, who I’ve always tried to avoid following.
Like…Trump isn’t perfect. But common sense repudiates that entire thing.
So long to the lot of them.
Exactly.
Forgot about MTG (easy to do with that narcissistic sellout). Yes, happy to have her join the Democrat Marxist party
From Costa Rica…with her millions🙄
Do you mean common sense repudiates the Epstein thing? If so how do you explain the "wonderful secret" birthday letter featuring a notably small-breasted, limbless torso?
I’d have voted against Massie given the chance. If I were his constituent I’d be livid he wasn’t cooperating at all with the President’s agenda. One or two non votes, okay, but ALL of them? And who on the ground cares about the Epstein stuff more than fixing the Left’s damage to the direction of our country? He was good during Covid but yes, he believed his own hype. Sad, but buh-bye and good riddance.
I agree with almost all of this except the generational attribution because without access to the ballots cast, the voter log-in stats, and the personal voter info in the voter registrar's files there is simply no way to know that. And even then it would not be easy to ascertain by age. Rather I suspect it is yet another attempt to sow division. And if you think the polling showed who voted for which candidate I have some ocean front property in Colorado for cheap. Conservatives do not like to be queried about their votes. Not before. Not during. Not after. They will even lie just for the eff you effect. The it was Israel/Aipac is another example of that division. Despite all the bitchin & moanin about the Jewish money so what? I feel pretty certain that no campaign finance laws were violated. The bottom line is that the voters of Kentucky cast Massie aside. As is their prerogative. He had been in office 14 years and it is my understanding he successfully passed one bill. One. He simply did not serve his constituents by being the ever reliable no vote.
Some good points, Lynne.
For all the people who think that village of Jews in the Middle East is capable of manipulating 350 million Americans so effectively, why aren't you clamoring to have them in charge of everything? That's such an impressive feat that you gotta start wondering if they were chosen for this role millennia prior
It is true insanity and I am sad so many “Americans” are this ignorant and stupid. This is the oldest of blood libels. It is EXACTLY how Hitler turned otherwise normal citizens against their German Jewish neighbors in the 1930s. I thought Americans were better than that. Guess not
Massie was a d*ck. He voted almost always with the Democrats. You piss on the leader of your party you can expect to be shown the door. Massie claimed he was independent and representing his district. BS!! As last night showed, his district wanted MAGA policies, not Massie’s
Massie voted 91% of the time with the party.
Massie voted 85% of the time with his party. You’re parroting false stats. But the proof in the pudding is specifically what he voted against. It was ALWAYS the most important and most critical issues we needed and he balked because being a contrarian for those issues gave him the spotlight. He voted with us when it was unimportant to HIS ambitions.
But not when it really counted.
Where it counted was stifling the Epstein files?
I voted for Massie several (6) times. Not this time (I voted for Gallrein) and not because of Trump. Massie gave up on representing his constituents / me some time ago.
It's probably a good thing these anti-Semites are coming out of the woodwork and exposing themselves this early before the 2028 election. They appear to be aggregating and coalescing. Do they all think that their anti-Jew/anti-Israel/anti-Semite numbers are going to be significant enough to affect an election? They must. Can the rest of America put up with it? The Dems certainly can... But will the Independents?
That's the awesome power of free speech. It is very revealing. I'm for more free speech.
Amazing what transparency can do. The average voter has common sense, and won’t be fooled long. For the terminally online, my hope and prayer is that they read more widely so they might learn the truth.
Massie was, in the end, an ass impressed with himself. He is reportedly quite bright but not wise at all. His comment about finding Gallrein in Tel Aviv was particularly vile and petty. But then again, so many of those whose true colors have been revealed (thinking of Cassidy, Thune, Tillis and other assorted RINOs) have misapprehended their role. It is not for THEM to lead us, it is for THEM to pay attention to the voters. Yes, there are times when they may have access to additional information to inform voters…so do it and make the case of persuasion. Childish tantrums when these folks receive a “spanking” from voters are below us all.
Massie will likely reemerge as a podbro or whomever. I think the “woke right” is starting to to lose its luster.
As for Trump, my view is, as always, not to worship him but to TRUST his brilliant team and his instincts. LTMW (Let the Man Work).
Well stated!
“I think Massie had never gotten as much attention in his life as he did once he became the anti-Israel guy. “. Ditto, Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly. They say whatever spins the social media meter. Anti-Zionist sentiment, none of them even know what that is, seems to do it for a lot of these Podcasters. It is also driving candidates on the Left like the idiot in Texas.
AIPAC got their man. Clocking in as the most expensive House race in our nation’s history (some $32M spent, and something like $9M from AIPAC). The winner, Ed Gallrein, described it to the press as ‘David beating Goliath’. I hope he was joking. But he probably believes what he says.
Better than the foreign nationals that funded Massie. Iranian/anti-Israel loving showered him with contributions. So he’s no better.
Where did @sasha get the idea that there were alot of other people throwing money at this? Who brought the kind of money AIPAC, Adelson, Ellison and all their partners brought to this?
For both candidates, less than 6% of named individual contributions came from zip codes in Kentucky’s 4th district. Also, the $32-$33M spent averages out to $570 per voter. Paul Singer (hedge fund CEO worth $6.7B) donated the most of any individual to the race, and did it through Trump’s PAC. These races are no longer local, they have been nationalized and in Massie’s case, internationalized. The largest city in Kentucky's 4th Congressional District is Covington, which has 41,500 people and located directly across the Ohio river from Cincinnati.
It puts a lie to the Democrats who push both-sides-ism. Anti-semitism is all theirs. Conservatives adhere to the Constitution and the Freedom of Religion, the very basis for America’s existence. Bleating about nasty Jewish influence is against everything this country stands for. The Dems own all those who are anti-semitic
I’ve said it before and say it again. This whole Israel stuff is a right wing and left wing fever dream. These people are insane. Megan Kelly is frothing at the bit to prove Israel defeated Massie. It is INSANE. Trump did not spend more money than Harris and he won BIG. Massie is underfunded and now the money matters…it’s horse manure. I’m done with these crazy people and every one in America needs to vote TRUMP, or it’s gonna get even more fever.
Not “Right wing”. The nut jobs like Fuentes, C Owens and T Carlson that HAD been conservative give that up and go far Left to practice their Marxist hatred and fascism.
Massie was just about his own ego. He wanted to be Mr. Important, and with Trump, Trump is the only one who gets to do that. All Massie ever did was grandstand - look at me, look at me. And I think his anti-Israel shtick was fake too - Massie's biggest donor is an actual Zionist. Good riddance to this clown.
The biggest lie is that Massie is " principled" and doesn't take money from foreign lobbies. Unless they're Islamist terror sponsors, CCP, open borders , anti-American far-left Socialist globalists and far-right /faux libertarian Jew haters. So long as they all hate Israel.
Funny how there was no interest in anything Epstein until the left turned against Israel. Ironically, Epstein was atheist, hated Israel, was working with traitors within Israel to overthrow Netanyahu and Likud since Clinton took office and Netanyahu announced Israel as a " Nation State". He had to go. They tried rigging the election before he won and forever since.
He worked with the PLO, Hamas, the PA, Qatar, Iran, Hezbollah, Iraq and whoever else was virulently anti-Israel and either had converted to Islam or was in the process when he was imprisoned before " suiciding", which as it turns out, may have actually been true.
Epstein was also involved in the Libyan , Ukrainian, Egyptian CIA led regime changes, played both sides of the Russian should we/shouldn't we and basically, every regime change/Color Revolution spanning Clinton to Obama and possibly as far back as HW Bush. He paid off traitors by offering them" great business incentives and connections" and once they bit, owned them by extortion. He wasn't a " Mossad Agent", he was a Rockefeller/CIA globalist bastard. Recruited by Donald Barr.. Bill Barr's CIA Op. Epstein was a Trilateralist, Skull and Bones. Rockefeller University.. name the corrupt globalist agenda top tier player, Epstein had a role. The " sex trafficking"hysteria is crap. Epstein was a sociopath with a predilection for young girls, but 99% were of legal age,consenting and paid. Virginia Giuffre was 16 when she consummated her " relationship" with Epstein and they were in Arizona, where 16 is the legal age of consent.
Massie doesn't give a rat's ass about Epstein's supposed sex-trafficking /pedophilia. If Epstein was Eppington and Israel was Ireland, Indonesia,Iceland,Iraq,Iran or even Illinois,Indiana,Iowa or Ipswich ,Kentucky- he wouldn't bat an eye.
Just as he voted against securing the border and deportation of Mahmoud Khalil, Nermeen Kiswani, Abrego-Garcia.
Also, where is the outrage and chest beating re Bannon, who it turns out was a longtime Epstein/Chomsky colluder? Exactly.
You do realize Bannon campaigned against Massie, right?
Wait, are you telling us Massie took CCP money? Evidence?
$1,776,000,000.00.
The abrupt defection of so many alt right figures to the democrats is ridiculously underreported
..and under-celebrated. I'm super happy that Fuentes, Duke, and Kristol have declared for Democrats.
That is because they ARE Democrats.
They are now.
They always were. They were just pretending otherwise.
Have been saying that for years. Fuentes, an antisemite, belongs with all the other Jew-haters in the fascist Democrat party
Ditto. They showed their true colors
You think the Democrat media wants to acknowledge all the NAZI demons have joined their team?! They are embarrassed
I’m tired of all of this anti-Israel anti-Jewish sentiment. It makes no damn sense. Massie became an idiot over time, a never Trumper. Any decent bill that needed Republican cohesion, Massie was against. Right there with John Thune, both are worthless when it comes to getting important legislation, like the Save America Act, hiding in the sand. They’re both a disgrace. Good Riddance on Massie and hopefully Thune can go away sometime soon too.
Once upon a time Massie was a good libertarian. Then he went round the bend, off the rails and into the weeds, to mince a few metaphors. Good riddance.
He is like some other members of the House. They want to feel important. They want to seem to matter. They don't want to be just a team player to pass the President's agenda. But when you have a 2 seat margin, that's the way it is - either you are a team player or you are on the other side. If the House margin was 20 nobody would care about Massie - he would be ignored. And with President Trump, he is the only one who can be an important top dog.
Thanks for this brief take. I appreciated it.
Safe travels!