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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Vance rose above the hate last night. The other consequential speech last night was Bobby Kennedy's. In a way, they bookend each other.

234's avatar
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Losing the midterms is not as frightening as some suggest. Yes, it will render Trump a lame duck, but will also expose Democrats for the losers with no message (other than Orange Man Bad) they are. Yes, Trump may be impeached again, but will never be removed from office.

Meanwhile, as Democrats are further exposed, it will bode well for 2028.

Playing the long game is always better and more successful.

ManAlone's avatar

How much more exposed can they be? If they control Congress they will not only derail Trump but will pass damaging legislation that will be hard to undo later, along with wasteful spending. Remember Dems vote in lockstep no matter how stupid their leadership is.

Jen Todd's avatar

We do not need more of what we've already seen from the dems. 2.0 will be no different. Hard pass.

MU2002's avatar

He’ll veto anything that comes out of that shitshow.

ManAlone's avatar

I would love to have faith in that, but also remember Trump is a deal maker. I can imagine him being in a quid pro quo position.

Steve's avatar

Winning is Always better than Losing.

JBell's avatar

It is VERY frightening! Let's not find out how bad it could be!

Roberta L's avatar

How much exposure do people need?!!

Texyz's avatar

Amen....I'm still reeling from all the 'exposure' we got in the anything-goes Biden era. We definitely know who they are now, and we can NEVER, EVER let them have power again. They are hateful Godless pagans who will enslave us, tax us, rape us...you name it. They are hell on Earth. VOTE VOTE VOTE!!!

Pacificus's avatar

Bingo, 234. Let's keep the Senate, give the Dems the House, and let them reveal what fools they are, just in time for '28. Yep, long game here.

Roberta L's avatar

Any longer, we'll lose the country.

sooz's avatar

The Democrats continue to reveal themselves and are blind to the fact.

Roger Holberg's avatar

I don't think they are blind. I think they actually believe that they and their policies are wonderful and that people will vote for them with the right messaging and the medias' demonization of their opponents. I live in a VERY blue area and, believe me, they are arrogant narcissists who believe they are the smartest and bestest people in the universe and are entitled to rule.

sooz's avatar

Agreed. They believe they are revealing themselves as righteous/best/entitled. Blind to the insanity they actually reveal to half the country - zero self-awareness.

234's avatar

I don't disagree. They may be blind to so out of touch they are, but I'm guessing you refer to the old guard Democrats. The DSA wing is far more dangerous, but those elected will be in a very small minority, like the squad....for now.

Old guard Dems will have to figure out how they fuse the DSA into the party, but my bet is DSA will be short-lived.

Either way, if they win in Nov. they can impede, obstruct, & impeach all they want, to no avail at all. And unless they come up with a message or we have an economic catastrophe, they will lose in 2028.

Eric Gordon's avatar

I like J.D.

Reminds me of the line from S. E. Hinton's "Rumble Fish"

"If you're going to lead people, you've got to have somewhere to go."

~The Motorcycle Boy

Matt L.'s avatar

Great book! The ‘Outsiders’ by Hinton was also terrific.

“Maybe the two different worlds we lived in weren't so different. We saw the same sunset.”

- Ponyboy, highlighting the shared humanity between the rival Greasers and Socs.

Tony Devlin's avatar

All this and a "Rumble Fish" quote? Nice.

Dave Begley's avatar

I liked the speech, but this Tucker thing really worries me. He needs to repudiate that guy.

I also like Rubio and Desantis. This will be an exciting and interesting.

Any one of the three would crush the Dem.

Texyz's avatar
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I like 'em all too, especially Desantis who has lots of executive experience. But in the reality of the world we live in today, sad as it is, I dont think they would crush the Dem, just beat them. I'd settle for any kind of win....

Mark Leone's avatar

You think Trump will resign or be successfully impeached if the Dems win the midterms??? That seems extremely unlikely, to say the least...even if they win. They won't have 66 votes in the Senate to remove him under even the most dire election scenario. The risk is they hamstring his presidency as they did in Trump 1.0. But that playbook won't work any better in 2027 than it did in 2017. Every strength as well as every weakness of Trump would militate against him resigning his presidency.

P.M. Summer's avatar

I believe 47 is at a far greater risk of Leftist lead poisoning than Leftist impeachment.

KARYN TRUITT's avatar

Trump wouldn't resign. But the liberal left can sure try to (again) impeach him...

Richard's avatar

A 40 minute political speech exceeds my tolerance level, so I will have to take your word for it. Fortunately, I have found your word to be reliable.

Steve's avatar
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How A WHOLE 40 minutes! /snark

IMinLA's avatar

I worked on stuff while listening 😆 That's the only way I can do it.

Steve's avatar

"Some may have had their doubts about JD Vance being the successor to Trump in 2028,"

1. I'm a Conservative Republican. That means in a General Election, if you have a R behind your name, you've got my support & vote.

2. Its Sept. 11 2026 Waaaaay to early to choose a candidate to support. "I support the rightward most *viable candidate." WF Buckley jr.

* Viable being the operative word. You may have The Best Plans in the history of Plans, but if you can't win (50%+1) I've got no use for you in an election.

Luke Lea's avatar

Haven't listened yet but would like to point out that DeSantis has a proven track record of getting things done in Florida. In my opinion, his eight years of executive experience (plus time in Congress) should not be dismissed.

Alan Sewell's avatar

I live in Florida, and know DeSantis is the most excellent of many fine governors we've had. I am 100% agreed with everything he does, including prodding the legislature to place a constitutional amendment on the ballot in November to reduce property taxes by up to 50% on homes typically owned by the middle class.

But I think he needs more seasoning in a Cabinet level position before running for President. If J.D. Vance or Marco Rubio are our next President, he should get a top position in their Cabinet.

Luke Lea's avatar

VP would be better, at least in the long run. We'll see.

Dave Begley's avatar

We need to launch simultaneous and multi-prong attack immediately.

1. Bomb Pickaxe MT.

2. Invade and capture Karq Island.

3. Wipe out the current rung of leadership. Israel knows where they are.

4. The Crown Prince leads - and I mean he's at the tip of the spear - an invasion where they capture a provincial town.

5. Bomb a few bridges and a power plant to show them we mean business.

6. Hit some military barracks.

7. Hit some police stations.

8. Activate the opposition who hopefully have been armed by us.

steven t koenig's avatar

It would be simpler , cheaper and more effective to just give Israel some weaponry and a green light to finish it

Texyz's avatar

....yes times 7, but # 8....hopefully armed by us. THAT is a big one. The Persian people must be armed if the IRGC is going to be eliminated. I really hope something is going on behind the scenes, and that the timing of all you said will coincide perfectly with Nov 3.

Petey Kay's avatar

I was at the "convention" yesterday. Rode with a neighbor and her friend who are both originally from Thailand and are big Trump fans. Place was jampacked and the energy was high. Quite fun to see Trump, Vance and all the familiar names.

JJoshua's avatar

Speech was great but will fall on deaf ears.

Today’s inflation numbers will almost guarantee a rate increase which should have been done already.

This Iran war is a YUGE problem for the President. This war will go into 2027 easily.

It’s the economy stupid.

Sue Grinius-Hill's avatar

I worry this is accurate. We have to shift the current scenario. The quagmire in the middle east is hamstringing us. And the IRGC know it and are I'm sure conferring with CAIR and MB to drag it out forever and keep the multi-pronged pressure on the U.S. from inside and out. I like Vance, but have loved Rubio since the little hands incident (and it made me hate Trump at the time; also him calling Carly Fiorina ugly on stage. I'm long over it, but it was truly awful shocking behavior). I still love Rubio muchly. I would appreciate either man in the WH. Vance is balanced and tends to evaluate and express concerns at times that differ with Trump's plans which means he thinks before acting-> healthy. Rubio is smart, passionate and Godly in character. Not afraid to hold others around him to account. He doesn't get flustered by idiots on the left trying their verbal bullying tactics. I love these guys. Tucker is a nut. Some part of his mind is warped now. I don't see Vance bringing him in to any inner circle. Tucker has shot himself in the foot and face at this point. Why is he still operating a show? Let's just stop giving him attention and airtime here. Take the oxygen out. Hereafter known as "the nut/recluse formerly mentioned, but no longer".

APriori's avatar

It’s incredibly stupid to call the extremely justified, effective and efficient war in Iran a “quagmire.” Truly just unbelievable stupidity. If you need a comparison point, it’s *nothing* like Iraq or Afghanistan.

Sue Grinius-Hill's avatar

I agree it is being handled amazingly. When I read about Hegseth's statements, and about new fighting conventions being employed I am impressed. I admire all that is being done. However, the quagmire is with regard to setting expectations with our population, and not meeting those at all. Repeatedly. The majority of our population are not military, and perhaps a generalized statement could be 'are not critical thinkers'. As we get closer to midterms, this feels like a quagmire in that we see no end to it. Natural inclination for many is to think that this is going to be like other wars. (Yet to be seen). News about depleted stocks and stubborn resistance are concerning. I don't know a lot here, but I know this: Prayer is needed.

Roberta L's avatar

"Let's just stop giving him attention and airtime here. Take the oxygen out."

YESSSS! Please!

Dee Kiefer's avatar

And the economy is stupid. You can’t fix inflation in two years. Especially when you have rogue governors doing everything to obstruct and facilitate corruption, criminals and spending. The dems have aided negative zero to correct anything to help American citizens.

JJoshua's avatar

While I agree, the voting public doesn’t view it that way.

Deborah Conte's avatar

I would also add I like that RFK is on Trump team.

JBell's avatar

I thought RFL Jr's was the best speech of the night!

Robert Chandler's avatar

The survival of the Democratic Party is the big question nobody is talking about.

They never since the end of WWII have looked this bad.

Alan Sewell's avatar

That was my thought too. Even on TV, he speaks directly to people in a person-to-person way that few candidates master. I spent my young life in Michigan and Ohio, and every word he says about corrupt Wall Street tycoons waging economic jihad against the industrial working class is true. And now Wall Street cartels want to take all the houses off the market and rent them out.

As investors, we must respect and protect the rights of capital from the rapacious maws of Socialists. But we must also respect the rights of workers to have jobs in the United States making the products we consume here.

All rights, of capital and labor, must be equally protected. I believe J.D. Vance will do that. But, being a Floridian now, I immensely admire Marco Rubio. I hope they will agree than only one will run in the 2028 primaries, because it would be the most difficult political decisions of my life to choose between the two.

Deborah Conte's avatar

I have the same positive take on JD’s speech. (As I put the Tucker Carlson issue on the back burner for now). I also very much appreciate fellow commenters’ views re: ramifications if we lose the midterms; i .e, “playing the long game” , democrats will act in their usual obscene manner, etc.