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Matt L.'s avatar

Tulsi Gabbard is also deploying the drip, drip, drip strategy. I approve. Taibbi is covering this wonderfully and Sasha I’m glad you are also joining ranks.

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Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

Tulsi Gabbard is demonstrating to We the People she is constructed from "presidential timber". The former Democrat Congresswoman from Hawaii is on a fast-track to a Republican VP candidacy in 2028.

May the Living God protect Tulsi and her family. Amen.

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Matt L.'s avatar

The next ‘drip’ to drop will be CIA reveal that foreign governments (intel) agencies knew of the Trump/Russiagate scheme. I expect it will reveal Canada, Britain, and much of the EU intel agencies knew of the attempted Trump take-down in advance of Crossfire Hurricane launch. Wiping out Trump served Globalists aims & kept the MSM airwaves overseas, squarely against Trump. That is the clear motive, IMO. F-off in advance to those of you who want to throw out the antisemitism label, because that is not me. I love Israel and its people. I detest I even have to preface this way but 10/7 it seems clouded many people’s critical thinking.

My gut says Israel INTEL knew also, but if so, this would (likely) be suppressed by the Trump administration, and Donald will instead use it against Bibi to get his way, if he hasn’t already. This seems plausible. In that the deep state knows it has lost credibility, but it - and Trump - would be reckless to allow the only ‘democracy’ in the Near East neighborhood to be soiled, or fuel any further anti-Israel conspiracies. Not after USA and Israel tight cooperation vs. Iran, and USA-Israel co-hedge against oil flow destabilization in the region. Undermining Israel/Mossad is not how the ‘story’ can be presented to public, even if that is the truth, because the costs to America are too great.

Anyone notice the Left leaning governments in UK, France and Germany have all called this week to recognize a Palestinian State? Maybe each can start a new Diaspora and offer Palestinians homelands in Bavaria, the Cotswold and the French Riviera.

Oh! Canada is about to make the same mistake. And the FAFO will be even higher tariffs.

MAGA.

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Granny62's avatar

I’ve always also suspected some Republican involvement, especially in the Senate. Let’s not forget it was McCain who delivered the bogus Steele Dossier to the US, Lindsay Graham always acted squirrelly about this and others- McConnell? Cotton?

I also wouldn’t be surprised if the 2020 election, J6, the endless lawfare, the autopen, the attempts on Trump’s life are all part of this conspiracy to destroy Trump and thwart the people’s will.

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R H's avatar

Spot on Granny!

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Ringo's avatar

[ bogus Steele Dossier ]

On the surface most if not all Steele dossier appears at least plausible. Data ranging on scale of credible to specious. Record did establish hidden contacts, trips to Russia & relevant data omitted from SF86 security clearance forms.

I am unaware any major parts of Steele-dossier proven false.

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PapayaSF's avatar

Only trivial aspects were real. Nothing important or salacious was proven true.

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Ringo's avatar

[Only trivial aspects were real. Nothing important or salacious was proven true.]

The Steele dossier, compiled by a former British spy as opposition research, serendipitously uncovered scandalous information about Trump's connections to Russia. This document established Trump's efforts to influence the 2016 election, including buying ads and omitting details about his Russia-related trips and contacts from security clearance forms - a finding further supported by the Mueller report.

The narrative surrounding the Trump Tower meeting with Russian representatives has been mercurial. Initially, there were denials of any such meeting, then claims that it was about adoption procedures, and eventually admissions of numerous Russian attendees, some of whom were known spies.

Contacts and travel data were also omitted from Trump and his staff's security clearance forms. This raises the question - why lie about these Russia-related activities?

Furthermore, reports indicate that Trump offered to pardon Julian Assange if he agreed to say Russia was not involved in hacking emails from the Democratic National Committee. This suggests a concerning effort to obscure Russia's interference in the 2016 election.

Think about key issues and questions surrounding Trump's Russia connections and the efforts to conceal them.

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PapayaSF's avatar

John Solomon says another drop will show Biden’s involvement. Trump is clearly telling a story, building suspense, and turning his second term into a reality TV show. He has all the cards and the Democrats have no way of stopping him.

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Alan Wolfson's avatar

When the raid on Mar-a-Lago went down, I told my extremely liberal friends that I suspected the "top-secret classified docs" were likely exactly what is being revealed now. Of course, they all laughed and said that it was nuclear secrets......... My turn to laugh.

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Ringo's avatar

Summary trump classified documents counts.

1. Willful retention national defense information: This charge, covering counts 1-31, only applies to Trump and is for storing 31 such documents at Mar-a-Lago.

2. Conspiracy to obstruct justice: Trump, Nauta, & others, are charged with conspiring to conceal papers from the grand jury.

3. Withholding document or a record: Trump & Nauta are accused of misleading attorneys by moving boxes of classified documents so the attorney could not find or introduce them to the grand jury.

4. Corruptly concealing a document or record: This pertains to the Trump & Nauta's attempts to hide the boxes of classified documents from the attorney.

5. Concealing document in a federal investigation: They are accused of hiding Trump's continued possession of those documents at Mar-a-Lago from the FBI & causing a false certificate submission to the FBI.

6. Scheme to conceal: Allegation Trump and Nauta hid Trump's continued possession of those materials from the FBI & grand jury.

7. False statements & representations: This count concerns statements Trump allegedly caused another attorney to make to the FBI and grand jury in June regarding the results of the search at Mar-a-Lago.

8. False statements & representations: This count accuses Nauta of giving false answers during FRBI interview in May.

According to the indictment, each one of those charges carries a maximum fine of $250,000 & prison sentences between five and 20 years.

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Matt L.'s avatar

It’s fantastic. I just hope someone gets ‘fired’! At the end of season 1, and this is not just trying to win the midterms (which is also very important). I listen to Walter Kirn from time to time, he’s a novelist, keen cultural observer and he claims nearly all mass media we consume is a story/narrative.

Here’s an interview of him from 2 years ago that is fascinating if your time allows. Kirn claims we are being conditioned to not have memories, as a way to be controlled by others, becoming a total pawn of someone else’s power.

https://www.palladiummag.com/2023/07/25/walter-kirn-on-how-america-lost-the-plot/

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Ringo's avatar

[John Solomon says another drop will show Biden’s involvement.]

How so?

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PapayaSF's avatar

The conspiracy continued under Biden. Any Russiagate timeline will show events in 2020-2024.

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Ringo's avatar

[The conspiracy continued under Biden. Any Russiagate timeline will show events in 2020-2024.]

What conspiracy was that? Please be explicit.

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Ringo's avatar

[The next ‘drip’ to drop will be CIA reveal that foreign governments (intel) agencies knew of the Trump/Russiagate scheme]

Trump’s obsequious praise for Putin is part of a well-known pattern. Even before Russia targeted Black voters with misinformation and hacked Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign in an effort to help Trump win the election, Trump — perhaps you remember — was desperately, longingly and publicly angling to become Putin’s “best friend.”

Lot of bark & no bite or established facts. All miraculously instigated by chanting 'Stop the Steal'. False claims with no credible evidence nor specific accusation.

Red hats - feel strung along?

IMHO trumps credulous nescient lemming banana-republicans are being willingly/unwillingly played like Putin's $10.00 banjo. TWANG!

Trump did it to trump.

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PapayaSF's avatar

Stop trying to make Russiagate work. It’s totally busted already and more proof will come out. You’re just wasting your time trying to defend it.

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Ringo's avatar

[Stop trying to make Russiagate work. It’s totally busted already and more proof will come out. You’re just wasting your time trying to defend it.]

[[Stop trying to make Russiagate work. It’s totally busted already]

We both know that is untrue.

Steele-dossier, generated by ex British spy as opposition research, serendipitously discovered scandalous information re Trump. Mr. Comb-over Did it to himself.

Document established Trump Russia efforts to influence 2016 election (buying ads) & day-lighted trips/interfaces data left off security clearance forms. Data further supported by Muller report. Trump Russia

Trump & staff at eponymous trump-tower meeting … narrative proves mercurial.

Initially there was no trump tower meeting, then there was but with none associated with the Russian government -- well maybe one Russian discussing adoption procedures. After much footwork, numerous modifications to the narrative, several Russians more fabrications and oops, enough Russians to staff a vodka factory. Parties replete with known Russian spies in the White House.

Last not least contacts and travel data omitted from SF86 security clearance forms.

Why lie about it?

Why would Trump offer to pardon Julian Assange if the WikiLeaks founder agreed to say Russia was not involved in hacking emails from the Democratic National Committee;

" Russia if you are listening".

Why initially lie about the meeting?

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Ringo's avatar

[May the Living God protect Tulsi and her family. Amen.]

Thus far any god(s) existence remains circumscribed to space between believers ears.

F. Crimpitt 2019

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Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

The idea that the existence of God is circumscribed to the space between believers' ears, as suggested by F. Crimpitt in 2019, reflects a perspective that emphasizes the subjective and experiential nature of faith in a Living God. This view aligns with the notion that God's existence is not an objective, measurable reality; but a Spiritual reality that is shaped and sustained by human belief (faith) and perception. In this context, God's existence is not independent of human consciousness, but is instead mediated through the experiences, interpretations, and interactions of believers.

This perspective is echoed in discussions about the limitations of human understanding of the Divine. For instance, Avicenna described God as "neither circumscribed by space, nor touched by time; he cannot be found in a particular direction, and his essence cannot change". This suggests that God transcends the physical and temporal constraints of the world, yet the way humans perceive and understand God is necessarily limited by their own cognitive and sensory capacities. Thus, the concept of God may be seen as existing within the "space between believers' ears" — a metaphor for the internal, subjective experience of faith as brought forth by F. Crimpitt.

As for myself, in the Spring of 1981 I was given a personal Revelation of the Deity of Jesus Christ as the Son of the Living God. I was stunned to learn that God had become Flesh. I have been studying the Bible since then and I have come to learn one must be personally invited by YHVH/God Himself to come to His Son Jesus/Yeshua as Lord and Savior.

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Ringo's avatar

[The idea that the existence of God is circumscribed to the space between believers' ears, as suggested by F. Crimpitt in 2019, reflects a perspective that emphasizes the subjective and experiential nature of faith in a Living God]

You get to believe in what you wish ... Easter bunny, Santa, tooth fairy etc...

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Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

Ringo: My name is Carl L. McWilliams. I am 77 years old and in 1981 when I was 33, I was given a personal Revelation of the Deity of Jesus Christ as the Son of the Living God. I was stunned to learn that God had become Flesh and I began studying the Bible then. As of today I am on my fourth study Bible as the first three Bibles wore out their pages and bindings because of overuse.

Therefore based upon my forty-four years of studying the Bible, I can state unequivocally and without ambiguity Ringo, your name is not written in the Lamb's Book of Life.

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Ringo's avatar

Nice to meet you Carl.

Repost: "Religious belief is made as a control system, kinda like "watch this hand here" while they put ignorant, abusive, fairy-tales into their heads.

Religion needs to be recognized for what it is, the enemy of all peoples, a dumbing down process, which leaves folks wondering what is fake and what is real. And while people like pence need to be vetted, they DO NOT belong in politics, it's the same with trump, he's a fake agent for the human race, and will destroy the country if he doesn't get his way."

cactusjim420 alternet post

For the masses, religious belief is primarily based upon ignorance (for the elites who run the business of religion it's the greed factor in play; for them, spiritually is only for the rubes). Ignorance can be overcome with knowledge. There's a reason the right attacks education, they fear the results of the average person having it.

alternet(.)org/comments/how-religious-right-shrinking-itself-overzealous-christianity-driving-people-away#disqus_thread

Some religions/religious (not all) think above the law, tend to impose their beliefs on non-believers. Blue Laws were a good example of imposition now repealed. Much same with today's abortion, birth control, dancing, sex-ed, stem-cell, Terri Schiavo etc.. With freedom comes tolerance one must to learn to deal with it.

Suggest religion like some other things need be kept between consenting adults.

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R H's avatar

She would be my first choice, so I hope you are right.

Side note, is there a total number of Clinton associates who died by suicide, accident, or mysterious circumstances? I think it is well over a hundred. I don't know a single person that died in those ways.

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Ringo's avatar

[Side note, is there a total number of Clinton associates who died by suicide, accident, or mysterious circumstances? I think it is well over a hundred.]

What are you implying?

Please provide objective unbiased credible citations supporting claim ”Side note, is there a total number of Clinton associates who died by suicide, accident, or mysterious circumstances? I think it is well over a hundred.".

Please we would hate to think you make stuff up.

Adduced evidence of this nature, requires impeccable sources.

Proof implies incontrovertible evidence.

Please be explicit, thank you.

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R H's avatar
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I'm implying that it's not very safe to be involved with the Clintons. I have a file somewhere I can dig up and send to you if you can give me an email address. Not sure how sourced it is but it gives you their relationship to the Clintons and how they died.

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Ringo's avatar

[I'm implying that it's not very safe to be involved with the Clintons. I have a

-SNIP-

Clintons and how they died]

Please provide objective unbiased credible citations supporting claim ”I'm implying that it's not very safe to be involved with the Clintons".

Please we would hate to think you make stuff up.

Adduced evidence of this nature, requires impeccable sources.

Proof implies incontrovertible evidence.

Please be explicit, thank you.

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JMaryH's avatar

Brilliant strategy. Make these weasels lie awake nights staring at the ceiling wondering what shoe will drop next. I hope it ruins them all financially, destroys their reputations, and makes Thanksgiving convo settle squarely on nothing more controversial than the weather. Or they could talk about who at the table will look good in orange.

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Alice Ball's avatar

Orange is the new black!🤣🤣

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PapayaSF's avatar

It also serves to crush the legacy media. They eagerly cooperated with the hoax, which helped degrade their reputation. Now they are such DNC toadies that they are trying to ignore or dismiss it, but the story will go on without them online on X and Substack and the rest.

Trump will be orchestrating the unveiling of many large scandals through the 2026 midterms, which he’ll win by crushing Democrats on many fronts. (E.g. taking out ActBlue.) Whatever they do or don’t do, the DNC lapdog media are in for months and years of humiliation.

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Alan Wolfson's avatar

The media silence tells me a lot. Usually when it's something they are not sure about, they just reflexively deny or claim Trump is wrong. I think many of them KNOW there is more to come, so the only way to salvage any credibility is to remain silent. If they deny or disclaim these drips, they are destroyed by the next drip - which they know will be coming soon. I need to stop smiling so much.......

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PapayaSF's avatar

Trump has trapped the media, and they both know it. The media can't admit that they and their Democrat allies were parts of a Trump frame-up and coup plot. But if they ignore the biggest political scandal in generations, they destroy themselves.

I think Trump will be Trumpian and go for maximum spectacle. He’ll turn the humiliation of Democrats, Deep State, and some GOPe types into a years-long reality TV show. Just imagine what Kash and Bongino and DOGE have discovered in the official FBI and CIA archives. Trump can orchestrate declassifications and indictments until November 2026 and beyond. He can crush the Democratic Party and the legacy media at the same time, all perfectly legally.

So I predict Trump will indict Obama. Precedent has been set, and now let Democrats defend their actions in court when presented with piles of declassified proof plus all the inevitable confessions by underlings eager to save their own skins. And let’s see the NY Times and WaPo and the rest try to NOT cover that story.

Trump isn't just trolling Obama. He’s giving a preview of the upcoming season of Desperate Politicians of DC.

TL;DR: Trump will make this a YUUUUGE story, the Biggest Ever, and force the legacy media to either 1) cover the story, confess to their crimes, and promise to reform, or 2) die as serious sources of journalism. One good result will be the rise of Ms. Stone and other quality indie journalists.

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Ringo's avatar

[Trump has trapped the media, and they both know it. The media can't admit that they and their Democrat allies were parts of a Trump frame-up and coup plot. But if they ignore the biggest political scandal in generations, they destroy themselves.]

You made that up ...

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Ringo's avatar

[reflexively deny or claim Trump is wrong.]

The Trump issues that won't go away: Trump is a convicted felon, Trump led an attack upon our country, our constitution and our police on January 6th, Trump has worked to take away women's rights and worked to take away voter's rights.

Last but not least, Trump demonstrably the pathological liar.

How can we believe anything he may say?

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R H's avatar

Medication isn't that expensive man.

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Ringo's avatar

[Medication isn't that expensive man.]

Attacking the poster - please. We were so looking forward to an intelligent on topic adult level reply.

Back on topic: Last but not least, Trump demonstrably the pathological liar.

How can you believe anything trump may say?

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Matt L.'s avatar

Thomas Matthew Crooks donated $$ to ActBlue.

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Ringo's avatar

Please provide objective unbiased credible citations supporting claim ”It also serves to crush the legacy media. They eagerly cooperated with the hoax, ".

Please we would hate to think you make stuff up.

Adduced evidence of this nature, requires impeccable sources.

Proof implies incontrovertible evidence.

Please be explicit, thank you.

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PapayaSF's avatar

I’m not going to play the “reliable sources” game with you. The declassified docs prove that the legacy media (a.k.a. the “reliable sources”) were wrong about Russiagate. They were either naive or complicit. They haven’t yet confessed, so only “unreliable sources” have called them out.

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Ringo's avatar

[I’m not going to play the “reliable sources” game with you. The declassified

-SNIP-

confessed, so only “unreliable sources” have called them out.]

[I’m not going to play the “reliable sources” game with you. ]

So are unwilling or unable to provide "objective unbiased credible citations supporting your claim "?

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Alan Wolfson's avatar

Two could play that game, Ringo. You earlier cited information directly from Biden/Garland DOJ indictments related to the Mar-a-Lago documents case. Will you claim that your earlier citation is based on "objective unbiased credible citations.....". Do you think that ANY prosecuting attorney is automatically "objective, unbiased and credible"? If so, then you will believe that of the indictments that will be coming soon for Comey, Brennan, Clapper and others??

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Cooper Raymond's avatar

Hillary doesn't have a soul or a reputation, so she sleeps just fine.

Especially after draining a daily Beto Box of Chardonnay, otherwise known as Cardboadeux.

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Ringo's avatar

Let's be fair, Hillary's 'Deep State pedophile sex-trafficking operation' does have pizza!

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Ringo's avatar

[Hillary doesn't have a soul or a reputation, so she sleeps just fine.]

Disgraced president TACO doesn't have a soul or a reputation, so he sleeps just fine.

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Alan Wolfson's avatar

Just like the DOJ in 2017 bankrupted Flynn, Popadopoulos, Manafort and later Guiliani, etc. etc. with malicious prosecutions. The Democrats and rogue DOJ wrote the BLUEprint so well, and proved you don't need to convict anyone. Just throw out any allegation, get a Grand Jury indictment and watch the accused go broke. The only difference is that any and all Democrats rightfully indicted or convicted will have fat juicy "Contributor" job offers from MSNBNOW and CNN to restore their financial well-being. Amazing how many people have made a great living just hating Trump and spewing garbage to willing useful idiots in the MSM.

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JMaryH's avatar

Didn't take Shifty Schiff long to start a defense fund. And there will be no shortage of women sputtering righteous indignation on TikTok slapping down their paychecks.

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fuzzi's avatar

They should never have called Tulsi a traitor, and put her on the watch list.

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Matt L.'s avatar

I agree. That was madness and so blatantly over the top, desperate. Reap what you sow.

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Alan Wolfson's avatar

I think the people in Trump world have finally gotten wise to a devious and winning media strategy. Put out one drip, wait for the usual corrupt media figures to challenge, refute, deny, deflect - then release another drip that destroys their weak denials. By so doing, it will eventually destroy the legacy media's credibility to the greatest extent possible. I may lean mostly right, but I am INCENSED when I find out that someone I trusted has lied to me. Sadly I don't think many on the left care. How WAPO, NYT, CNN could ever again trust those that leaked to them incessantly since 2016, I don't know. Yet Clapper, Brennan and Comey are still rock stars over there. WHAT will they do when the evidence is irrefutable? Continue to obfuscate, deflect, minimize and lie I suppose. I fear there will be no reckoning.

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pjb535i's avatar

…It would eventually destroy WHAT’L LEFT of the legacy media’s credibility …

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Libertarian's avatar

It’s a distraction; they just moved Epstein’s Mossad accomplice Maxwell from the FL pen so Trump can pardon her and return her to Israel to pimp for Epstein again. Mossad owns Trump and the evidence is he puts Israel first and before America. Basically the entire Israeli Mossad pedophile ring goes free after raping thousands of pre-teen children for decades.

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reality speaks's avatar

Hilary has always been a vile and evil Person. She has nothing on Stalin or Pol Pot. She would be perfectly okay with exterminating 50% of the people in This country.

She needs to die forgotten in a jail cell.

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Scott's avatar

Well, I can repeat my earlier comment here... Hillary was just one of the more enthusiastic and venomous contributors to the whole Russia, Russia Russia collusion hoax...

Here's a summary of the 10-year attack on President Trump.

"NOW WE'VE GOT HIM," the media teases.

False Flags:

2016 Hillary will get Trump!

2017 Tax returns will get Trump!

2017 Comey will get Trump!

2018 Mueller will get Trump!

2019 Stormy will get Trump!

2020 Avenatti will get Trump!

2020 Impeachment I will get Trump!

2021 Tish James will get Trump!

2021 Impeachment II will get Trump!

2021 Garland will get Trump!

2022 Jan 6 trial will get Trump!

2022 Taxes (again) will get Trump!

2023 Stormy (again) will get Trump!

2023 Alvin Bragg will get Trump!

2023 E Jean Carroll will get Trump!

2023 Jack Smith will get Trump!

2024 Engoron will get Trump!

2024 Fani Willis will get Trump!

2024 The assassinations will get Trump!

2024 Kamala will get Trump!

Do they EVER admit that their information they tried to sell was false, and misleading? Nope. On to the next conspiracy theory. It's why nobody trusts the media and the Democrats (sorry for the redundancy!) anymore.

And he is STILL our President 🇺🇸🇺🇸

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TexBritta's avatar

PEEFECT👆🏾🤠

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MyOpinion's avatar

"Hilary has always been a vile and evil Person." FACT!! Hillary has ALWAYS been about power.

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Cooper Raymond's avatar

Ever since that little Bobby Stevens kid in the neighborhood made fun of her fat ankles.

She'd been trying to overcome that trauma ever since.

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William Wallace's avatar

Her Fat ankles are now the least of her problems!

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pjb535i's avatar

Nothing another box of Cardboardeaux can’t cure

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pjb535i's avatar

She learned well from her Machiavellian mentor Saul Alinsky. It’s always and ONLY about one thing. Power.

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Ringo's avatar

["Hilary has always been a vile and evil Person." ]

"Disgraced president TACO has always been a vile and evil Person."

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Orenv's avatar

Use of comparisons to mass murderers are not very useful and muddy the water. Which is of course the intention.

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reality speaks's avatar

It’s an appropriate response because she is the of same psychopath mind set that would murder millions just like Stalin PolPot and Mao.

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Tricia's avatar

Does anyone remember her saying that people who vote for Trump should be “re-educated” or am I the only one?

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Trapped in IL's avatar

We are the basket of deplorables.

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Ringo's avatar

you made that up...

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Deidre K's avatar

The media all forms were biggest abusers of all. TDS has done more damage to the psyche of our nation than any other political con except the covid virus vaccine scam.

They just need to eat the crow they should have in 2016. Pompous sanctimonious smug delusional sheep.

Hilliary was their queen.

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Orenv's avatar

All my leftie friends talk like they are expecting Trump to start exterminating everyone in the "concentration camps" like alligator alcatraz. It is of course preposterous, and I think unhinged. So I am sensitive to such talk. Yes, Hilliary would like to keep people quiet. As does everyone else in politics. To think that our federal government, with all its checks and balances would allow that, is to think that our government is exceedingly fragile and could collapse any minute. I don't believe that, and neither does the stock market apparently. It WILL collapse (everything does eventually), but it took Rome a couple hundred years to disintegrate. The hysteria promoted by people who know better on the left mainly, but some on the right, is designed as a siren call to the crazy people (they are out there off their meds) to start mayhem. Not useful.

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Cooper Raymond's avatar

Let's see if they declassify the Seth Rich files now.

Let's see who gave the DNC data to Assange.

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MyOpinion's avatar

YES!

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reality speaks's avatar

Yep same arguments were probably used in polite Ukrainian society before Stalin decided to starve them into submission. Or in Cambodia before Pol pot empty the cities etc. my point is that the evil inside of Hilary is equal to those tyrants/dictators.

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Orenv's avatar

If you believe our institutions are as weak as those of cambodia after decades of war, or Ukraine after Stalin gained power and used it, then I guess you should be worried. I have been to Cambodia and seen the killing fields, one in EVERY VILLAGE, I think you are either hysterical, not thinking seriously, OR trying to stir up the crazy.

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reality speaks's avatar

We watched the government manufacture a crime against Trump so they could call him a felon with every intention to put him in jail. They convicted him over those fake crimes too, so no our institutions are not as robust as you claim. We are being exposed to the depth of their lies involving Hilary and the whole Russiagate scandal and we have the President of the United States instructing his intelligence agencies to manufacture fake intel to smear the political rival who just won the Presidency and no that is not a part of the President official acts so he should not have immunity.

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Trapped in IL's avatar

I feel like Hillary might have been a useful pawn for the Deep State oligarchs, although she and Bill consider themselves to be part of the DS. People like George Soros have enough money to rule the world, and that is just what he is trying to do. Fortunately, this pesky American Donald J Trump and his followers keep thwarting his efforts at every turn. It also helps to have God on your side!

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Paul Scofield's avatar

Nice try. Next.

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Dave F's avatar

Not sure I can agree with last part of this comment— instead of forgotten in a cell— a better end is dangling from a noose,blindfolded up against a wall or maybe tied to a stake. This fate must be in store for all involved in this

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D Parker's avatar

You've got to love the lack of self awareness of the fascist far left in publishing pieces like this:

On Planet Earth, Obama Can’t Be Indicted. But We Live on Planet Trump.

The attempted persecution of a former president is both a dangerous line to cross and an expression of this failed administration.

https://archive.ph/1ozPv

https://newrepublic.com/article/198484/trump-obama-tulsi-russia-indictment

It was with some trepidation that I visited the website of futures betting firm Polymarket on Sunday afternoon, to see what bettors thought the odds were of a coming indictment of Barack Obama. I’m pleased to report that I was reassured. Wagerers foresaw just a 7 percent chance that Obama will face federal charges in 2025.

Even 7 percent is ridiculous on Planet Earth, and if you live your life in blissful ignorance of MAGA-world social media memes, you’re probably saying: “Uh … WHAT?!?!?” But we no longer live on Planet Earth. In this country, we live on Planet Trump. And on Planet Trump, (a) anything is now possible, and (b) Obama’s “guilt” has already been established, and it’s just a question of whether Attorney General Pam Bondi will step up to the plate and assume the solemn task that history and Dear Leader have assigned to her.

"a dangerous line to cross"

Have they forgotten that THEY crossed that line already?

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Epaminondas's avatar

What line? Rules are for thee, not for me.

I'd find it amusing if it wasn't so infuriating that only now is the left starting to pontificate about the dangers of politicizing the justice system. They strangely seemed completely fine with that when they were the ones in power.

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JMaryH's avatar

Um....you are aware of the truckload of documents that have been released pointing a huge, waving red flag at Obama for the beginning of the Russia Russia Russia hoax?

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Orenv's avatar

There are charges and convictions. Charges are likely after the panties incident. See OJ on the conviction. But that is OK with me because we all know OJ did it.

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SuezCanal's avatar

Same guy wrote a "planet earth" piece when Trump was indicted by Alvin Bragg. "On planet earth, this means Trump singularly may have--even he is still presumed innocent--violated laws and norms that everyone else has followed. The bottom line here, and the one big thing we know above all else: Donald Trump has had this coming. For years. This feels like justice coming." He was ALL FOR persecution/prosecution of a former president just a few years ago. See Megyn Kelly's broadcast from this week where she interviews Aaron Mate (https://youtu.be/nkExWq5PNao?si=NJTfhkp-cjzRAiNL, beginning at about 50:52).

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MyOpinion's avatar

Former Presidents (Obama)!have immunity, but those AROUND Obama don't.

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Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

If the former POTUS cannot be indicted for his pre-meditated high crimes and conspiracy, to commit treason and sedition against We the People and the US Constitution, then Ayn Rand's warning becomes a 21st Century prophesy:

"When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing—when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors—when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you—when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice—you may know that your society is doomed.”

-Ayn Rand, from Atlas Shrugged

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Orenv's avatar

For official actions. But not UNLAWFUL actions. If the President orders the secret service to randomly shoot people, both would be liable. One for making an unlawful order, the other for carrying it out. First impeachment, then conviction in the Senate, removal from office, and trial on federal (or State) charges.

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Both DNC “madam President” candidates orchestrated coups. Not a good look. Remember how the Dems shivved sleepy Joe like the night’s watch betrayed Jon Snow - for democracy! https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/for-democracy-dnc-got-biden-obama-movie

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Sally DiMartino's avatar

Their favorite thing is to say they need to 'save our democracy', which is so ridiculous because they have done so many really obvious things that completely undermine democracy. It's at the point of being actually kind of funny.

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Orenv's avatar

Never forget the "My Democracy"(tm) when they use the words.

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Brian M's avatar

Not that anyone will care, but I called bullshit on the entire Russia Collusion Hoax at its outset. It was clear to me in 2016 when, unbelievably for me, Jim Comey let Hilary off the hook. He had her dead to rights doing the worst possible thing by exposing her country's top state secrets on her home server (which the Russian hacker group easily infiltrated). She should have gone to jail for her carelessness. When I heard the stories about Trump colluding with Russians, it was like some movie script. It did not sound like Trump (even if he did call for the Russians to prove they had hacked Hilary's server, which seemed well known). And it was not even necessary. I lost friends in 2017 when I told them their stories of Trump collusion were full of shit. I was right. They were wrong. And I still don't have those friends back. So we all lost because of Hilary and Barack

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Grieving Father's avatar

Ditto. The whole thing was obviously and patently ludicrous from the start, yet every lefty I know bought it completely.

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Orenv's avatar

I carefully choose my words when engaging with lefty friends. One commented today about how Trump is hiding the records of his "pedophile" activities. I commented that it appears the upper echelon of BOTH parties are working together to hide this.

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PapayaSF's avatar

I felt the same way. Here’s another possibility: maybe this wasn't “carelessness” but an updated way of selling secrets. Instead of handing over printed files in exchange for an envelope of cash, put the secret files on an "insecure server" and “Oops, the files got hacked! And totally by coincidence, shady foreigners donated tens of millions of dollars to the charity that helps provide my family with a luxurious lifestyle."

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Brent Nyitray's avatar

At least the NY Post mentions it. No sign of it on WSJ politics section.

Don't forget Russian Collusion was used as a pretext for a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign. That is worse than anything Nixon did.

And Saint Barack used it to sabotage his successor's administration. Can you imagine Ford doing this to Carter? Carter doing this to Reagan? GHWB doing this to Clinton? Clinton doing it to W? W doing it to Obama?

Talk about breaking norms.

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Orenv's avatar

A commenter, I think it was Victor Hanson said that Trump just needs to say that he is just trying to figure out the rules. They rules now say that raiding a former Presidents house and rifling through his childrens and wives underwear drawers are a precedent. Trump could say that he "wouldn't do that", but he is still trying to figure out these "new rules" and precedents.

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davewohl@midco.net's avatar

Really? "I think", sooooo, you work for or at least follow the media over lords and you haven't heard Trump say it himself that he was still learning the game? Leave VDH out of it, or give it a link to verify.

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Orenv's avatar

That was VDH's advice, not anything Trump is actually doing (yet). He has a bunch of videos on YouTube. THis was one from a day or two ago.

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PapayaSF's avatar

I think Obama's spying on Trump actually predated the Russia hoax.

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MyOpinion's avatar

Excellent analysis coming from a former Democrat, Sasha. Hillary has ALWAYS been crooked.

A fun story about Hillary. I had family who had been born, raised & lived in AR. Quote from a Dem family member:

"When Bill was Governor, people loved him, but HATED Hillary. When she tried to talk southern, she missed the mark along with southern voters."

Corrupt & a liar? All you have to do is to go back to Benghazi. I refer to her as Benghazi Hillary.

When Hillary took a hammer to the unsecured computer she had to get rid of her 30,000 emails and then had bleach poured over, that was a huge wake-up call for anyone paying attention. Didn't she know what's on the Internet stays on the Internet.

Obama & Hillary hated each other. Obama appointed her as SOS to keep her out of the country. Best friends with stick together; those who have a common hatred for a person are even tighter.

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PapayaSF's avatar

Sorry to nitpick and this doesn’t change your point, but it wasn’t actual liquid bleach. It was secure erase software called BleachBit.

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234's avatar

Obama appointing Hillary Sec. of State was an agreement Obama made with Bill for his support in 2008. I don't buy the idea that Obama and Clinton were at odds...quite the opposite. Obama and Biden are a different matter.

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MyOpinion's avatar

EVERYONE loved Bill and still do. I didn't say Bill and Obama were at odds. They weren't, but Obama & Hillary hated each other.

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Heyjude's avatar

Of course. Obama derailed her in 2008, and she knew she would have to wait 8 years to try again.

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MyOpinion's avatar

Did you receive the long article (copy & paste) about the relationship with Bill, Hillary, Obama and Michelle? I don't see it here.

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Jack Sotallaro's avatar

And once again the Democrats are caught changing reality to protect the guilty. They have no morals, don't feel shame, and have all the symptoms of psychopathy. In other words they're lying sacks of poop. Jail is too good for them..

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Derek Jecxz's avatar

Clinton and the DNC were already fined $113K for not reporting their spending on the Steele Dossier and related propoganda. We do not need more evidence. Lefties and progressives will never have an Aha Moment and finally agree that Obama, Clinton, et al, cooked the books and attempted a coup because, guess what, they believe everything done was justified. We need to stop expecting rational intellect from people who scrafice our Constitution, will of the people and the rule of law for their hysteria du jour.

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Margaret G's avatar

This puts a whole new light on the E Jean Carrol fake "sexual harassment" accusation. How a jury managed to convict on such shaky evidence is beyond me, but they ran with that "Trump is a rapist" line all the way through the 2024 election. AOC still refers to him as a "rapist" although he was never even convicted of that. I wonder how the appeal of the sexual harassment allegation is going? Carrol clearly had funding behind her to make her come forward. There are no depths to which the evil Democrats will not sink in their attempts to smear Trump.

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PapayaSF's avatar

And don’t forget the “32 felonies” bookkeeping nonsense. It would have been an FEC violation to record those checks as campaign expenses (as John Edwards found out), but it was somehow a crime in New York to record them as non-campaign expenses.

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TexBritta's avatar

And they still keep harping on this one rape case which is total BS 😂

I’ve never seen Trump with an ugly woman and funny this woman just came out of nowhere! Melania is his type…good grief.

President Trump can still appeal to the Supreme Court regarding the Jean Carroll case, as he has 90 days to request the Supreme Court to hear his appeal after the recent appellate court ruling. I think he will.

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JMaryH's avatar

"The truth has a funny way of showing up late to the party but then overstaying its welcome." Awesome way to put it, Sasha. Somebody please help me -- what on earth was the purpose of the Durham Report if all the information the public was seeking was kept redacted in some top-secret annex? How is that possible? What kind of cruel joke on the American public is this wretched nonsense?

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Matt L.'s avatar

An old Yiddish proverb:

‘The truth never dies, but it lives a wretched life’

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PapayaSF's avatar

My understanding is that Durham was given a strict purview that excluded nearly all the good stuff.

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Danimal28's avatar

You ain't kidding about the power of the media to cover all this up. We know that HRC and her campaign paid for the Dossier in 2018...

Here in MN the local media has completely insulated our communist governor; I am not a lofo voter and even I was surprised to find out about his yearly Chinese trips while still in the military which is a BIG nono.

Great piece, Sasha.

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Orenv's avatar

Usually people with security clearances have to be interviewed after going to places like that. It would be interesting to see those interviews if they even happened.

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Hebrides' Eilidh NicDhòmhnaill's avatar

Few like politicians generally these days, because of the assumed craven and power hungry nature of the beast. I asked AI why Hillary in particular is so hated by maga, even more than than they hate anything "mainstream". What seems to have struck the most nerve was her "deplorable" comment.

Why do members of maga despite Hillary Clinton so?

ChatGPT said:

Many members of the MAGA (Make America Great Again) movement strongly dislike or “despise” Hillary Clinton for a mix of political, cultural, and personal reasons that have built up over decades. Here are the key factors:

1. She Symbolizes the Political Establishment

MAGA is anti-establishment by nature, and Hillary Clinton—former First Lady, U.S. Senator, and Secretary of State—is seen as the ultimate Washington insider.

Her long tenure in politics represents, to many MAGA supporters, the entrenched power they believe has ignored or undermined ordinary Americans.

2. 2016 Presidential Election

Clinton was Donald Trump's opponent in 2016. MAGA’s identity is tightly bound to Trump’s political rise, and Clinton was cast as his chief foil—representing everything MAGA claims to reject: globalism, elitism, technocracy, and “swamp” politics.

Trump’s “Lock her up” chant regarding her use of a private email server while Secretary of State became a rallying cry and litmus test for loyalty within the movement.

3. Benghazi and Foreign Policy Criticism

Clinton was Secretary of State during the 2012 Benghazi attack, where four Americans were killed in Libya. MAGA supporters often view her as personally responsible and accuse her of lying or covering up details about the attack.

4. Perception of Corruption

Many MAGA adherents view the Clinton Foundation and the Clintons’ speaking fees as corrupt or unethical, alleging pay-to-play politics.

These concerns were amplified by conservative media and some congressional investigations, even though no criminal charges were brought.

5. Russiagate

Trump and MAGA supporters believe Clinton and her allies helped manufacture or promote the Russia collusion narrative to delegitimize Trump’s presidency.

The Steele dossier’s Democratic Party funding, reportedly tied back to Clinton’s campaign and the DNC, is a central grievance.

6. Cultural and Ideological Divide

Clinton’s reference to some Trump supporters as a “basket of deplorables” during the 2016 campaign was taken as proof that she looks down on working-class, rural, religious, and conservative Americans.

Her public persona is often portrayed by MAGA-aligned media as cold, calculating, or inauthentic—traits that contrast sharply with how MAGA supporters view Trump.

7. Media and “Double Standards”

MAGA supporters often argue that Clinton has been protected by the mainstream media and justice system while Trump is unfairly targeted—feeding their broader narrative of systemic bias.

In short, Clinton isn’t just another Democrat to many in the MAGA movement—she is the personification of the political, cultural, and media forces they feel oppressed or betrayed by.

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Hebrides' Eilidh NicDhòmhnaill's avatar

Her deplorable comment was made at an LGBT fundraiser:

"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic — you name it. And unfortunately, there are people like that. And he has lifted them up."

"Now, some of those folks — they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America."

"But the other basket — people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures — and they're just desperate for change. It doesn't really even matter where it comes from. They don't buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won't wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroin, feel like they're in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well."

Clinton later expressed regret, saying:

“Last night I was ‘grossly generalistic,’ and that's never a good idea. I regret saying ‘half’—that was wrong.”

Clinton was attempting to acknowledge a complex voter base—part of which she harshly condemned, part of which she empathized with. Her wording handed Trump a potent political weapon.

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MyOpinion's avatar

MAGA is an acronym that has become a slogan. Most, if not all, Republicans want to "Make America Great Again" because we have been living in a nightmare with people like Newsom in CA.

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Heyjude's avatar

Why did you choose to highlight the deplorable comment as the most important, when it was #6 out of a list of 7? Because it seems the most trivial?

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MyOpinion's avatar

I have a suggestion. Use Google so you can read many articles to know why.

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JW Writes's avatar

I know you admired Hillary and I'm sorry for the disillusionment... but she's always been an absolutely amoral, horrible person. This is, to me, like Obama. I vividly remember the first time I heard his voice, walking by our living room where the tv was on and a man was speaking. I went in and asked my husband who it was because he gave me the absolute creeps without even seeing him. Hillary is like that. NONE of this is surprising. What will be surprising is if there isn't more about stuff we haven't even thought of yet.

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Steve's avatar

Remember Cattle Futures, Whitewater, Rose Law Firm, Travelgate?

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PapayaSF's avatar

And the FBI files on Republicans she “accidentally” had?

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MyOpinion's avatar

Whenever Hillary tries to talk "southern", I laugh. She was born raised in CHICAGO!

Bill Clinton told a story. When he was Governor in AR, he asked Hillary to marry him 2 times. Each time she said, "No." He then bought a house and asked her again to marry him. It was then that she said, "Yes."

In my world, Hillary has always been what we called "A climber." A climber is anyone who will do anything to promote themselves, not for love.

Hillary absolutely thought she would be elected POTUS. She was so positive that she took a nap while votes were tallied. When Bill and others found out she had lost, NO ONE wanted to go in and tell her. After they told her, she went into a rage and began throwing things around around in the room and blamed them for her loss.

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Jim I's avatar

Another one of the professional liars.

The entire Obama inner circle were out to protect Hillary and discredit/destroy Trump.

Critical information was sequestered from the “investigations”. They must be exposed with some criminally charged.

The future credibility of the federal government hangs in the balance.

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