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Heyjude's avatar

In a country where effective birth control is basically free to any woman who wants it, how do we have 1 million abortions a year?

It’s almost like they are deliberately choosing abortion over birth control.

Essay33's avatar

Abortion as birth control is completely in sync with the mentality of the Lindsay Clancy supporters: refusal to be responsible for one's actions.

Abortion is at its essence no different than strangling an 8 month old baby, and actually takes more time and expense.

Pacificus's avatar

Really, in a state like Massachusetts that allows abortion on demand until birth, what's the big deal about choking out an eight month old?

How did we get to this place? Oh yeah, it started with Gloria Steinem. May she not rest in peace. She deserves to spend eternity in a circle of hell surrounded by a million dead babies. No kidding. Prove me wrong.

Brian DeLeon's avatar

Harsh, but I agree. These people are in a death cult.

Sarah Christensen's avatar

Not harsh enough. Many abortions are performed by literally ripping the child’s limbs from its body one by one before crushing the head. In others the skin is chemically burned off then the chemical reaches the organs and burns them too. It’s the most unimaginable horror honestly, perpetrated a million times a year. If all Steinem has to face is being surrounded by the deaths she promoted rather than feel their pain she’s getting off way too easy. (And if this seems unbelievable to anyone, please consider learning about how fetuses react in utero, even at nonviable gestational ages, including how they react to pain. It’s eye opening for sure)

Pacificus's avatar

Harsh? Seems fair and just to me.

Brian DeLeon's avatar

No doubt Steinem was an evil person.

Operator Dawn's avatar

These people aren't humans, they run on Ego Mania and self Indulgent delusional psychosis, no morals no faith or spiritual world,,,they think they are their own Gods, therefore whatever they do is justified by whatever they say,,no consequences

Matt L.'s avatar

I listened to NPR today on drive home and the story on loop about Steinem was her legacy in being involved with some children’s book nobody ever heard of. Which I interpreted as the Left looking really hard to avoid speaking anything controversial about her.

Dhianna's avatar

No proof needed. You hit the nail on the head!

fuzzi's avatar

Peter Singer and others have been promoting post birth abortions for years:

"Peter Singer argues that abortion is morally permissible because fetuses lack personhood, defined by rationality, autonomy, and self-consciousness. He contends that while a fetus is biologically human, it does not possess the capacity for preferences or self-awareness until well into pregnancy, meaning its interests do not outweigh the preferences of the pregnant woman.

Singer extends this logic to argue that there is no morally significant difference between abortion and infanticide. Because newborns also lack self-consciousness and the desire to continue living, he asserts that killing an infant is not equivalent to killing a person. Consequently, he suggests that infanticide may be permissible, particularly for severely disabled infants, if it maximizes overall happiness and reduces suffering. "

Evil.

Dutchmn007's avatar

Wouldn't want to be him come Judgement Day.

fuzzi's avatar

Each of us has our own sins that we need to address without focusing on others, but I understand what you're saying.

Debby's avatar

NO DESIRE TO CONTINUE LIVING??? I can’t even express how angry 😡 that makes me.

Dutchmn007's avatar

Actually surprised her lawyers didn’t argue the killings were simply “post-birth abortions”; that probably sounds absurd but wait for it. Eventually that argument will be made.

Bill Bradford's avatar

I used to ("joke"?) about providing "retroactive" abortion services""....

Operator Dawn's avatar

Yes,,,remember they always say,,,its not a baby, so now they are stretching it,,,,

because their hate is growing,,they are looking for societal upheaval and overthrow so these are the cracks in the wall and the liquid hate is leaking out.

Abortion was always about taking morals away from the world by getting women to believe its not their child just blobls of blood, so it not murder,,,even though it is.

Operator Dawn's avatar

your correct, its actually the underlying song thats playing endlessly underneath all of this trial,,the 200pink ladies outside, the courthouse,,,,,,,what they are singing underneath their bravado and self rightousness, IS,,,this wasn't really Murder.

The news people are sniffing at it too without saying it.

Mangione murder wasn't murder because it was evil Healthcare over Arching our helpless world so Louigi was a crusader and heroe for us helpless souls.

Society parts of it now have left reality.

Bill Bradford's avatar

But the farther from reality they go, the more firmly rooted in reality we appear, and become....right?....

Debby's avatar

It actually was an episode on South Park!!

Frithiof Nilsson Piraten's avatar

I wish this was just a sick joke, but alas I fear it isn’t. Someone will soon make that argument I fear. God help us when it is done.

On when it should be legal to have an abortion: When the ability to save a baby overlaps with when it is legal to abort it we have reached a line we really cannot cross. Regardless on what side of the fence we are.

dancingtime's avatar

And the idea that the woman conceived by herself and that the baby belongs only to her....If she didn't want the baby and the father did, carry the baby to term and let go of all rights.

JacquelineP's avatar

We had a case like that in Canada. The boyfriend tried to prevent the abortion. It went all the way to the Supreme Court, even though they heard it after the abortion had happened, because it was an important precedent. They ruled that it was the mother’s final decision because she was carrying the baby in her body. As much as I find that unfortunate, I have to agree with it in principle. You can’t possibly have forced continued pregnancy in a woman.

fuzzi's avatar

Sure you can, it's a life, separate, with different DNA. It's not part of the mother.

Bill Bradford's avatar

Maybe not, but you could impose that abortion Mom pay Dad the equivalent of child support, for an abortion that HE didn't want, or a fee or fine for deprivation of paternal rights.....something like that....it's only fair....?....

NWCitizen's avatar

I think that is an unusual scenario in unmarried couples or one night stands. The man doesn't want to pay child support for the next couple decades

Pam Humphrey's avatar

do you ever wonder, nw, how many women have abortions because they feel pressured to? By boyfriends,parents, leftists?

VICKI's avatar

then he should have kept it in his pants; he is just as much to blame, come on!!!

Bill Bradford's avatar

Please expand on that idea in a longer comment.....

Ryan's avatar

Well, they did have an abortion clinic outside of the 2024 DNC convention. That seems pretty telling.

NWCitizen's avatar

PP had a van not associated with the convention.

Bill Bradford's avatar

LOL! What kind of nano-scalpel did you need to split that nano-scale hair?...."not associated", hah!,... like they got lost on the way to the Army base, and just ended up outside the DNC by accident? Hah!, LOL!.....

NWCitizen's avatar

Did the DNC tell them to be there?

LoveIsCourage's avatar

Of course Steinhem didn’t push back against trans. Once CIA always CIA and the transgender op is theirs in part.

It’s gotten so absurd when basically everything has been Weaponized in the present war on humanity.

Alice Ball's avatar

NW Citizen is now and has always been a far left idiot desperately trying to be relevant in an otherwise balanced and normal comment section. If the DNC didnt order or sanction the presence of the abortion and vasectomy mobile clinics, they would have shut them down. They did not. Hey NWC, are you all in with the lunatics supporting the child killer too? Are you a Lindsay Clancy apologist? Murder is good?

NWCitizen's avatar

I don't follow sensationalized stories like this. I don't have the answers and they are just sad.

Gail W's avatar

Yes, when women are brainwashed into believing that a fetus is "just a clump of cells" that they equate to nothing more than a skin tag or a wart, why wouldn't they rely on abortions when it's just too much trouble to take a pill every day or endure the discomfort of an IUD? The energy behind EVERYTHING on the left HAS TO BE DEMONIC. There is just no other explanation that makes any sense.

Tom Potts's avatar

Higher levels of participation in churches and synagogues with fathers leading them would help fix this problem.

Gail W's avatar

I totally agree. Even though neither my husband nor I are observant of our respective family's faith traditions, (I don't know HOW he and I turned out as conservative as we are!) but in most cases, families with traditional values - however they absorb them - are much better off in the long run.

Bill Bradford's avatar

I agree 100% Gail! BUT, you're only seeing HER side of it. WHY does HE have to ejaculate into HER, in the first place? See what I mean? Can we introduce the concept of "negligent paternity" into the conversation? Thank-you! & Bless you, too!

Gail W's avatar

Fair question Bill. But that is like saying “well they made it too easy to steal so I shouldn’t be guilty of theft “. Until the left gets control, individual responsibility is the standard. If the woman CONSENTS the man is not responsible if when she terminates the child but he IS responsible if she gives birth to the child. SO if I had a son I’d drill it into him to be damn sure he was prepared to have a child with a woman he was wanting to have sex with BEFORE he has sex with her. “BEFORE” is when both parties HAVE A CHOICE, NOT AFTER a life has been created.

NWCitizen's avatar

You know where the male brain is located?

Debby's avatar

Because men don’t care, it becomes the woman’s responsibility to “deal” with.

Gail W's avatar

Would you care, if you were a man and just wanted to get laid? Probably not.

However in fact some men DO care and plead to be allowed to have the child after birth.

Other men plead / demand the child is aborted.

In all cases the WOMAN is imbued with both the power and the responsibility.

Operator Dawn's avatar

And YES they are --------DEMONS

NWCitizen's avatar

Well, there are many explanations: people getting caught up in the moment; young girls who are not prepared but get pressured by boyfriends to "prove they love them"; women believing the man loves them but then he takes off; birth control failure, women who are poor, alone, on drugs/alcohol, etc. Red states like to teach "abstinence" in school which increases the rate of unplanned teenage pregnancies

Tom Potts's avatar

Public schools are toxic for children . Never send your children to public schools. Homeschool, parochial schools, charter classical schools are all far superior, or should be. NOWHERE with any form of teacher’s unions.

Gail W's avatar

TOTALLY AGREE. I wish Trump would push school choice even more (assuming the GOP holds the House and Senate) in order to further disintegrate public schools. They are incubators of sheeple demons.

Deb DiPietro's avatar

Listen, IF the schools simply taught real biology regarding human anatomy and physiology, a binary process which is intended to procreate human beings, the knowledge obtained would give a young person some pause as to whether or not they were ready for the intended consequences of sexual intercourse. I learned that at the age of ten in 1963. Given a healthy family and a framework to make good choices, I was able to decide not to play Russian roulette with the sperms that I chose to receive. I was intentional in my decision. Yes, PP was around and making it easier to obtain birth control. You could even buy condoms at the pharmacy.

Our society has cheapened the value of pure intimacy with all of the porn available, and now we devalue the life of the vulnerable unborn.

The devil is in the details. 😨

Gail W's avatar

I totally agree with you Deb!

Debby's avatar

You had me right up until RED STATES. That’s ridiculous!! And inaccurate. We all know abstinence is the only 💯 foolproof birth control. So don’t act like it’s a crazy idea. In your scenario then BLUE STATES murder more babies.

NWCitizen's avatar

Well, if a person is not as infallible as you they might not adhere to abstinence in which case they are much less likely to get pregnant if they use birth control

Gail W's avatar

If I was a benevolent dictator (ha) I would have an 'all of the above' menu of choices to indoctrinate young people with, because every hormonally surging person is not alike. Some have much more impulse control than others. And parents, primarily mothers, absolutely should push their daughters to be much stronger in enforcing their own agency over their own body. Absent force, I think social constructs have brainwashed females to relinquish that agency in furtherance of 'free love' and 'sexual liberation' and all sorts of other nonsense structured to disintegrate social norms and standards.

Additionally, your statement that abstinance = increased teen pregnancy seems inaccurate.

From Chat GPT:

The clearest U.S. jurisdiction-level evidence

A frequently cited 2011 analysis compared all 48 U.S. states for which sex-education policy data were available. It classified states according to how strongly their policies emphasized abstinence and compared those policies with teen pregnancy rates.

The results were:

State policy Mean teen pregnancy rate per 1,000 females age 15–19

No abstinence provision 58.78

Abstinence included within comprehensive sex education 56.36

Abstinence emphasized 61.86

Abstinence stressed / abstinence-only 73.24

Thus, in that dataset, states most strongly emphasizing abstinence had an average teen pregnancy rate about 30% higher than states teaching abstinence within comprehensive sex education (73.24 vs. 56.36 per 1,000). The relationship remained statistically significant after the researchers adjusted for several state-level factors, including socioeconomic status and educational attainment.

But that does not prove abstinence education caused more pregnancies

This is important if you are looking for a statistically defensible argument. The study was an ecological/state-level correlation study. States that favor abstinence-only policies may differ in other ways that affect pregnancy rates—religiosity, poverty, access to contraception, rural populations, cultural attitudes, etc.

A later study using a stronger difference-in-differences approach examined state abstinence-based mandates from 2000–2011 and found no statistically detectable effect on teen birth rates or abortion rates.

Another state-level study found that policies requiring sexuality education with contraceptive information were associated with lower rates of sexually active youth and greater contraceptive use among those who were sexually active.

Specifically on unplanned/unintended pregnancies

This is where the evidence is thinner. State-level unintended-pregnancy statistics do exist—for example, an analysis of 2006 data found rates ranging from 36 unintended pregnancies per 1,000 women in New Hampshire to 69 in Mississippi—but I am not aware of a strong study that directly matches those statewide unintended-pregnancy rates against a standardized measure of how aggressively each jurisdiction promotes abstinence.

So the most accurate conclusion is:

Yes, there are statistics showing that jurisdictions with stronger abstinence-only education policies have historically had higher teen pregnancy rates. However, the evidence is stronger for an association than for a demonstrated causal effect, and comparable jurisdiction-level data specifically measuring all unplanned pregnancies are much more limited.

NWCitizen's avatar

So you admit that states with abstinence-only education have the highest rates of teen pregnancies. How do you measure "how aggressively each jurisdiction promotes abstinence?" I have no problem with teaching the benefits of abstinence as long as they also teach "sexuality education with contraceptive information".

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

Because abortion has become birth control. But it’s also quite genocidal and racist when you think about it. That’s why PP puts their “clinics” in inner cities. This continues what Margaret Stanger, their Saint wanted. Removing blacks and other inferiors from the gene pool.

Are you aware more black babies in NYC are aborted than born?

dancingtime's avatar

Let's not forget that the Dems are the ones who destroyed black families....Originally, when welfare for single mothers was started, it was to help single mothers to get beyond that and make a life for her and the baby. It did not include poor couples. They drove the males out of the house for the woman to get welfare as a single mother. Degradation of the system continued.

NWCitizen's avatar

Could it be that black men could not get jobs that paid enough to support a family?

Operator Dawn's avatar

NO,,,the black family was intact all through the beginning of the 20th century up through the fifties and sixties,,,then the sixties brought Marxism and started ripping them apart..Johnson and Ted Kennedy did it.

Sue Kelley's avatar

Margaret Sanger and company called themselves Progressives. They were in fact, eugenicists, racists and classists. In fact,most but not all were White, so you could call them White supremacists too.

This information got out in the media on a very underreported scale but PP decided to quietly drop their heroine's name from their buildings and literature afterward.

Why don't the Republicans EVER use this kind information to educate voters? I think we know the answer.

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

Because the GOP can’t message? Because they are feckless? Because they are weenies? Because they play by marquess of queensbury rules while the dems play cutthroat?

Tom Potts's avatar

Sanger went to Weimar germany and stayed to teach Nazis how to do genocide.

https://culturallegacy.org/margaret-sanger-sterilization-and-the-swastika/

Operator Dawn's avatar

Its should be widely taught,,also things like the new school for social research in NYC,,which began in Germany but Hitler hated them so they moved to the US

in 1933. They are Notorious criminals...Does anyone recognizeCritical theory?

Oppressor Oppressed? DEI? They invented it they brought it and now its ripping our schools to shreds

John Boy West's avatar

It’s all very sad. What started as a movement to protect women, give them equal property rights and legal rights in and out of marriage ended with the selfishness of it’s not fair that women must carry the detritis of a sexual encounter for nine months. I used to think women had the higher moral ground, but not anymore.

NWCitizen's avatar

Men have NOTHING TO DO WITH IT! LOL!

John Boy West's avatar

This was written by wife of … it’s a tag team endeavor. But yes men deliver the sperm and split so they’re at fault too.

Ripple's avatar

Democrats have shot themselves in the foot by promoting abortions to black women. If most or all of those black babies were born then states such as MI would be firmly blue rather than being competitive.

Sharon's avatar

I'm sorry, but insinuating that blacks don't know enough to vote in their own interests is pretty racist.

NWCitizen's avatar

Could the "wealth-gap" between blacks & whites have anything to do with it? Blacks remain an economic underclass in America and a wealth gap between blacks and whites persists. Wealth gives family security, allows them to weather adversity such as periods of unemployment or health issues, live in better neighborhoods with better schools and provide a better future for their children. By 2022, white families' average wealth ($1.4 million) was more than $1 million higher than that of Black families ($211,596) and Hispanic families ($227,544).

Tom Potts's avatar

Well…. This problem was directly caused by Lyndon B Johnson’s “Great Society” welfare programs in the mid 1960’s. I think it was intentional. The welfare checks required the father to move out of the household or no welfare checks. Teenage boys often go wild when their father is not in the home to reign in the excesses. The wild boys need to be affirmed as masculine. Women can’t do it. So the boys turn to the streets, and gangs, etc… to do it. Not all boys but many. Then you get crime, out of wedlock babies or abortions. Black families had higher levels of fathers in the home in the 1950’s than white families. Government caused the problem.

dancingtime's avatar

As my mother used to say: Because they are too lazy to interrupt the moment of passion and don't want to go on the pill....They were choosing abortion over birth control. It was all about them...

NWCitizen's avatar

And men have NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!

Tom Potts's avatar

Not true. Boys are not men.

VICKI's avatar

Right so it's the duty of the fathers or the men in their lives to clue them in to right, wrong and their testosterone plus respect for females.

NWCitizen's avatar

And young girls are not women. So? If either boys are girls are sexually mature, they can engage in activities that lead to pregnancy.

Roger Beal's avatar

Some of them are, and glorying in it. There are videos on YouTube that reveal the granite hearts of these women:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN7egi29FEM

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RlyDQ-nfjy4?feature=share

Heyjude's avatar

They don’t get social media likes for posting that they took their pill that morning.

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

But the videos show when they DIDN’T take their pill. I assume you meant like Prozac or an SSRI or Xanax etc.

Heyjude's avatar

No, the birth control pill.

PW1104's avatar

Unlimited abortion is a wonderful gift to men!!!

Tom Potts's avatar

Absolutely NOT. Destroying women’s emotions for life is not good. Abortion is the killing of your own child. Both for the woman and the man.

Julia's avatar

I don't know where the number 1 million comes from, proof?

But there are factors like basic biology and social dynamics. 1. female birth control doesn't work on a spot 2. it takes time for the pill to work and it's linked to the cycle, a woman isn't protected for a while 3. side effects and health issues linked to female contraception 4. promiscuity culture (you don't really expect a woman to take the pill for a month before going to a bar) 5. coercive sexual partners who insist on having unprotected sex and abortions. 6. misdiagnosis, when a fertile woman is told she's not fertile.

Outside of teen pregnancies and rapes, most cases I know involved a problematic partner. No, I don't want that baby, are you sure it's mine (while she was faithful)? I'll leave you if you don't get an abortion. And don't tell me to get a job.

A much simpler contraception is for a man to wear a condom. But in the liberal feminist world it's too much to ask for. It's all patriarchy, forget about biology!

Lon Hocker's avatar

I am not a woman, and never have been one, but know that they have gotten a bad deal. Men have no biological imperatives, women have periods, pregnancy, compelling caring of children, and the final insult of menopause. How any of the survive this is a mystery. Killing is bad, but living life as a woman is not imaginable by a man.

Tom Potts's avatar

Yes they do. Men should desire children and grandchildren who are their posterity. They should wish to know the children come from themselves and not from any other man. Getting married and staying faithful to your wife is the best way to accomplish that.

NWCitizen's avatar

Tell that to young people who are more interested in sowing their oats.

Robert Lime's avatar

Before American women decided they could dispense with the idea of family, American culture expected a husband and father to support his family. The stress which that brought into most men's lives may be responsible for the substantial difference in life expectancy in the two sexes. There was never anything like that which affected women uniquely.

It's a hard world for most because it's a fallen world. Few people are able to evade its effects, and even they sicken and die or get killed in other ways.

I just do not accept that a life properly lived - a Christian life, because there is no other life which can be considered proper - exposes one of the sexes to an onerousness which the other is able to escape.

Mid class partisan's avatar

We have lots of stupid people.

Jake's avatar

It’s almost like women enjoy killing children isn’t it?

NWCitizen's avatar

Well, there are many reasons: people getting caught up in the moment; young girls who are not prepared but get pressured by boyfriends to "prove they love them"; women believing the man loves them but then he takes off; birth control failure, some women are poor, alone, on drugs/alcohol, etc. Red states like to teach "abstinence" in school which increases the rate of unplanned teenage pregnancies

Rick's avatar

Wittier people than me have certainly mastered the challenge of saying nothing nice, or ill, of the Dead.

You came close.

On balance though, Ms. Steinem was an awful woman. I suppose she was a Heroine to some far lefties. But Steinem was an outright coward if she couldn't even say boys should NOT be in girls' sports.

It's easy and reasonable to say, unless you are petrified of the backlash you might get.

You create a Frankenstein, you perish by it.

There, I said it for you.

Larrd's avatar

I saw her berate and humiliate a young black female student who asked her a good question about abortion during a university talk about thirty years ago. It was eye opening how unprepared she was to answer the question, and how spiteful she was to the young girl for asking it. Disappointing!

Pacificus's avatar

Yes. It is amazing/sad how many of our "icons" turn out to be small, pathetic, and downright mean in person. I had this experience with Chomsky in the 90s.

Larrd's avatar

Chomsky used to send everyone in my graduate program weekly emails during that time, because he had come for a visit and talk. It was amazing how braindead and hackish the messages were. Unhinged and retarded, for lack of a better word.

Rick's avatar

Hard core lefties cannot write seriously. It is scripted and automatic pablum. Only small minded people cannot smell it, see it, read it , or taste it for what it is.

Still, the Academy slogs on .

Brian DeLeon's avatar

Chomsky looks like a little, bitter pathetic person.

Operator Dawn's avatar

Marx was a cowardly mooch and dirtbag druggie alcoholic abuser....But wait hes are Hero .....Always borrowing money with the lie,,my writing is too important

Debby's avatar

That’s funny because I called her a coward too!! And she was.

Dave Begley's avatar

Wow! Glad you are alive. You are such an excellent writer and voice for conservatives.

While Gloria was against marriage for a long period of time, she eventually married Christian Bale's father. Reportedly she did so that he wouldn't be deported for a Green Card violation.

Rick's avatar

Sasha's voice is informed by her experiences as a member of the Left.

David Horowitz was also, RIP.

Many of us conservatives were never lefties, so we are not nearly as aware of it's putridity. (is that a word ?)

Larrd's avatar

Putridity is a great word.

Debby's avatar

😂 seriously?? Sounds like a match made in heaven or errr…….

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

My feelings about abortion have reversed also. What was once something I would never do but could see others doing it and was okay with it, has now become an absolute evil. It’s done so casually and so hatefully anymore. And those who oppose abortion on demand and abortion until crowning (yes literally crowning because there is no longer any timeframes) are the despised ones.

Here in Idaho, there’s a question on the ballot about making abortion unrestricted. With all the yoga mom Californians that have moved here, who knows what will happen.

Operator Dawn's avatar

Sick Sick Sick,,,I'm with you. Abortion is no a wedge to destroy other things morally and legally and with power and force.

Roger Beal's avatar

An accurate recording of history would rank Gloria Steinem alongside Margaret Sanger (Hillary Clinton's most favorite women of all time). Both did more overall damage to women's position and respectability in western society, than most anyone else I can name.

Bill Bradford's avatar

Remember Hilary's close "friend" and aide Huma Abedin? Her father was a founder of the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist group....just saying....

NNTX's avatar
Sep 3Edited

One wonders what Steinem's thoughts were as she neared death. Did she regret her all out push for Radical Left Wing policies? The 60M + babies aborted (many of them would have been Black, interesting for those that believe in BLM)?

Hopefully she found Jesus before she died--it is never too late (the thief on the cross next to Jesus is a witness to that).

Still, we can decry her political and cultural positions without wishing her ill. These ideas have literally driven many women to the cliff of anger, regret, inchoate frustration and an inexplicable sense that all is not right. The support of women that believe their "feelings" matter more than morality or reason seems to be what motivates the Clancy fans. Extremely sad for them and worse for the children in their care. May God have mercy.

Pacificus's avatar

Yes. Turns out, 20 million or more aborted black lives didn't matter...

NWCitizen's avatar

No one is forced to get an abortion. Could the "wealth-gap" between blacks & whites have anything to do with it? Blacks remain an economic underclass in America and a wealth gap between blacks and whites persists. Wealth gives family security, allows them to weather adversity such as periods of unemployment or health issues, live in better neighborhoods with better schools and provide a better future for their children. By 2022, white families' average wealth ($1.4 million) was more than $1 million higher than that of Black families ($211,596) and Hispanic families ($227,544).

Debby's avatar

The main reason for the wealth gap is the disintegration of the black family unit. Welfare pays per child so the baby daddy is not responsible and goes to pollinate elsewhere. Of course there’s more to it, but that’s the crux of the matter.

Pacificus's avatar

Ah NW, I knew you would pop up... took longer than expected.

So, I'll mark you down as in favor of The Black Baby Holocaust....

NWCitizen's avatar

Actually, white women get abortions also. Did you know that black women are 3-4 times more likely than whites to die from complications of pregnancy/childbirth? https://scienceinsights.org/why-is-the-black-maternal-mortality-rate-higher/

Jan Hus's avatar

Your question assumes a conscience was present. The will to power often suffocates the human conscience.

Roberta L's avatar

If she “found Jesus” before the end, but still denied him to the world…

NNTX's avatar

We don't know. That is up to Him. I see this as similar to praying for your enemies, if that makes sense (and yes, it is not easy to do...a wise woman once told me that she prayed for the ability to forgive her cheating husband. That resonated with me quite a bit, and still does).

All the best.

Robert Lime's avatar

I can pray for those who have trespassed against me only by willing myself to overlook whatever the offense was. It wouldn't be so if apology were not a rare thing in our world, repentance an even rarer thing.

There is a case to be made that true forgiveness can have as its basis one thing only, genuine repentance in the sinner for what he has done to the victim.

NNTX's avatar

Your point is very well taken. And I understand this having lived through some fairly serious transgressions/boundary violations by various folks. And when urged by Christian friends the 'reconcile" with those that seriously violated and never apologized, it is a true conundrum. My view is to pray for them and wish them well, while not pretending the violation did not occur.

Yes the idea of actually apologizing to those one has offended is increasingly rare.

Yet I hear about the 70X70 rule for forgiveness. I figure God knows best on this as on most things.

Operator Dawn's avatar

Exactly,,,,,Wanna feel better? Do the right thing!!

Lisa's avatar

Really thought provoking, excellent piece. I could not believe the feminists I grew up admiring abandoned women in sports. Men with a history of violence are now being placed in prison cells with women which is dangerous and absurd, but feminist leaders are too cowardly to say a word.

Brian DeLeon's avatar

Yes, with the whole men in women’s sports fiasco, I always asked myself, where are the feminists? And why isn’t there women in men’s sports? We know why.

Laurie H's avatar

I share your disappointment. Going back to the mid-1990s, I was also disillusioned when feminists were silent in the face of Bill Clinton’s philandering (even predatory) ways. They remained silent while Hillary Clinton’s response was to blame and shame the women. Such hipocrisy.

Matt L.'s avatar

Steinem published an opinion article in the NY Times in 1998, defending Bill Clinton amidst the Monica Lewinsky scandal. She wrote that Bill wasn’t guilty of sexual harassment because the oral sex was consensual. She further claimed that much of the political outrage against Clinton was driven by right-wing opponents who wanted to undermine his support for reproductive rights.

SUZ's avatar

Yes that Clinton fiasco was the turning point for me. Feminism became all about politics and power, no longer about actual women

Operator Dawn's avatar

Feminism movement in the 1960's was always about destroying women.

first don't have morals Free Love

Don't get married Free Love

Its NOT a baby have an abortion

Have a career dont get married

dont listen to your parents, which includes don't go to church believe in God

don't breast feed use formula

dont trust yourself read a book by an expert

its wrong to look to a man

AND now its Bend over honey a man is in your locker room and bathroom and on your team, dressed like a woman but has the mens equipment(pro-genital Organ).

It has always been about destroying women

Marilynn's avatar

Wow. Your article at the end describes a brutal truth. We have sunk to a new low as a society if we can’t condemn women who kill their children.

Sasha, you hit the nail on the head with this one.

We need to take a long look at ourselves and figure out where we are headed😔 and pray that we find our way back to sanity again.

“A million babies aborted this year” is shameful

Jan Hus's avatar

At a feminist forum Steinem held several years ago, some participants cogently disagreed with her views. Steinem bellowed in response: “We don’t give a damn what you think! Out of here!” She conformed to the modern Liberal geist of “tolerance and inclusion”. Only those who parroted her views were worthy of “liberation”.

Operator Dawn's avatar

what did the ladies say to her,,is there a video we can see

Donna's avatar

I appreciate a lot of Gloria's earlier stands on Women's Rights. She left me when she became so strongly pro-abortion. And I definitely could not understand her abandonment of women in favor of gender dysphoria. I hope she made her peace with God before her death.

Nancy Benedict's avatar

I too grudgingly appreciated her for standing up for women's rights. What I cannot understand is how the feminist movement of the 60's and 70's did not translate into objections to men in women's sports, as well as other issues. When I see courts refuse to ban these issues I think "where are the feminists?" Apparently, I was naive and did not know what they really stood for. It certainly was not women.

Good Humor by CK Steefel's avatar

This resonates. Steinem was important early on. But her message for women’s rights faded. How could she support boys in women’s sports, women’s prisons…? It’s too bad. I honor her early years.

Good Humor by CK Steefel's avatar

Okay, I just learned she spoke out about the rapes of Israeli women on Oct. 7. Glad she did.

reel life's avatar

Yes, but very little and kind of late. As someone with global recognition, Steinem could have effectively held a press conference and hit social media on October 8th or 9th. Instead, she waited two months, and then added her name to a letter decrying the sexual violence against women. That’s not sisterhood.

Good Humor by CK Steefel's avatar

True. She would have been 89. Do we know anything about her health in the last three years?

reel life's avatar

GOOD QUESTION: She was out and about, and even could have sat at home with a camera and other sisters and televise/stream or record.

Per grok: What was her last public/online live appearance? July 14 and 16, 2026, at Audible’s Minetta Lane Theatre in New York City for the live events “Yes to the Unknown: A Night with Gloria Steinem.”

These ticketed public appearances (about 1 hour 25 minutes each, no intermission) featured Steinem in conversation with Amy Richards, sharing personal stories from her life, with themes varying by night (love/loss, politics, pop culture, etc.). Actress Keri Russell performed excerpts from Steinem’s writing on at least one night (July 14). The events were recorded live and planned for release as an Audible Original around September 17, 2026; contemporary coverage described them as her final public appearance.

She died on September 2, 2026, at age 92 at her New York home. In her final months she continued hosting smaller, more private “talking circles” at her Upper East Side brownstone (e.g., a climate circle in February 2026; an endometriosis discussion around early July; a journalists’ circle roughly eight weeks before her death). She also gave interviews earlier in 2026 (including a Glamour home photo shoot/interview around her March birthday and a Vanity Fair Zoom chat about her memoir) and had a pre-recorded Netflix Famous Last Words interview from February 2025 (released posthumously). No later live, TV, or streaming public appearances are documented.

In her later years she focused more on writing, community gatherings at home, and selective events rather than extensive travel or large public schedules.

Roberta L's avatar

Not much to add here.

I will say that Hillary Clinton was never for any other woman than herself. Maybe Gloria Steinem was the same. No door was ever really closed to her, personally - except the one marked, ‘Respected Journalist.’ Feminism opened that door.

I do not mourn her passing.

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

Hilary Clinton would have been a failed bitter unmarried real estate lawyer in Chicago if not for a man. Ironic isn’t it that she who touts herself as a strong woman able to make it in a man’s world wouldn’t have gotten anywhere without the man. And she’s clung to him like an octopus even after he humiliated her over and over. Strong woman in a pigs eye.

Emumundo's avatar

And Hillary had the nerve to call out Tammy Wynette when she said she wasn’t a stand by her woman man. Well, Tammy divorced her alcoholic husband and moved on with her life. Hillary is still hanging on to the pedophile.

Operator Dawn's avatar

OMG so true,,,,Yes she rode his back to fame and fortune

Pat Robinson's avatar

A new thought that had not occurred to me.

Abortion is the only right that feminists still have and so they are going to the mattresses on it.

Thanks for that clarity.

I imagine the goal is to be like here in canada with no limits or regulations at all.

The men in women sports thing is the definition of Orwell’s 1984.

They try to make us see it is ok for men to beat up women in boxing for example but they truly are Winston Smith, they really see it because they have to conform, to be part of the cult.

It’s one thing to not care about kids but it’s entirely something else to watch a man beat up a woman, or watch the U14 boys team beat the USA women’s Olympic soccer team and say “yup that’s all good and fair.”

Functionally insane.

Gail W's avatar

Sadly, you and I have walked the same tragic path because of succumbing unquestioningly to the leftist lies.

Essay33's avatar

She was a monstrously destructive woman. May God have mercy on her soul. That's not sarcasm; she has now obtained whatever eternity she wanted, and I do not wish an eternity of separation from God's love on anyone, even the woman who helped abortion become a commonplace act.

Pacificus's avatar

If Steinem doesn't wind up in hell, then what's a hell for? Honest question.

Anne Carter Thomas—Protagonist's avatar

To speak ill of the dead, Gloria Steinem in particular, is to remember a pathetic life, self-absorbed in the utter disregard for the sanctity of human life. I've never read one word about Steinem's spiritual condition other than the apostasy that comes with the 'choice' to celebrate abortion—as if she had actually accomplished something!