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Mad Dog's avatar

I don't hate the left. At some level, "hate" implies some measure of respect. I despise them. I'm contemptuous of them. Sometimes I'm even amused by them. But I don't hate them. I don't respect them enough for that.

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You see, it's their moral vanity that makes the left so contemptible.

Pacificus's avatar

"Moral vanity"--I like that!

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Wade E Charnock's avatar

Dems hate God, hate the Constitution and are amoral...they mutilate kids...they push Trans nonsense...and are smug self-righteous idiots...Next!

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they are not leftists dems are center center right.

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Adam C. Mitchell's avatar

Ad hominem insults and hate are all the Leftists have, never facts and reasoned arguments.

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You say this like maga doesnt believe in so many things that deny reality. Thats why so many of us gave up arguing with you because you cant convince someone of anything when they are willing to lie to themselves in order to fit their narrative. I can give examples if you like on lies you all tend to believe but whats the point when you will never admit you are wrong?

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Adam C. Mitchell's avatar

Once again, facts are not on your side; it's been proven now that that suicide rate does not change after trans surgery. That's because it is a mental illness.

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Erich Sielaff's avatar

Gosh, you are so smart. And clever. The "pedophile" thing, why that was so brilliant. Did it take you all day to come up with that? I am in awe.

Retard.

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Wade E Charnock's avatar

You murder the unborn and push trans-men is sports...How low can you go!!???

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Adam C. Mitchell's avatar

Given the Democratic politicians are supporting Platner in Maine, take a look in the mirror.

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Erich Sielaff's avatar

Hey another retard! Lovely. The pedophile horseshit thing always gives you away. Dolts. All of you.

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Wade E Charnock's avatar

Biden, Obama, Hillary, Schiff...all lying scumbags...all hated traditional and Christian values...losers totally

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So, your traditional and Christian values include: lying, killing, tyranny, treachery, sexual assault, pedophilia, narcissism, cheating, theft, self-aggrandizement, bigotry, racism. Oh, my gosh! The list is practically endless of the sins acceptable to "Christians" nowadays. You and your kind have re-invented "Christianity." It's not inspiring and it doesn't include Jesus Christ. Who is your Savior now? Donald Trump?

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Adam C. Mitchell's avatar

No, we support him in part because hate-filled leftists like you are so much worse than Trump is.

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Erich Sielaff's avatar

Sarcasm. The stupidity of your remarks makes you such an easy person to mock. How does it feel to live each day in delusional bitter hatred? Yuck it sucks to be you.

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no value added - you're blocked...

PapayaSF's avatar

I was at a (virtual) party recently with some incredibly smart guys. You might even have heard of one or two of them if you’ve been in tech for a long time. Sadly, their political attitudes were just embarrassing. Things I heard: MAGA is a cult, Trump is corrupt, he doesn’t plan or really do anything, just grubs for money. He’s never built a skyscraper, he just buys real estate in dodgy deals. The big problem facing the country is all the bad information brainwashing the ignorant MAGA types into believing lies. There’s no election fraud, it’s a myth, like Haitian eating cats. Also, Trump might decide to not leave office in 2028.

MJ's avatar

And did you respond to any of that claptrap or just decide the patient is already dead and intellectual CPR would be a huge waste of time? Because that’s where I am now when I hear all those lazy, stupid comments from people who should be smart enough to know better.

julia's avatar

Me too. What i do is i lean forward, and whisper: "you know, this is all fake. We are in a movie. An alternative universe."...they usually look scared and walk away quickly.

PapayaSF's avatar

I did a little polite pushback, but I didn’t want a big argument.

MJ's avatar

And I’m sure you were far more polite to them than they would have been to you had you pushed harder. It’s just not worth it anymore. They are lost to us.

Steve's avatar

And He's A Poopyhead.

Mid class partisan's avatar

Well he is selling America for parts. How many billion has he and his family made ?

Gitch's avatar

No that was the last president, the one that was at the beach all summer

Mid class partisan's avatar

Biden was a bust but he was out of it . Your boy is healthy and bleeding us dry. I do agree on that border with trump. But He’s pissing on us and saying it ain’t rain .

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What American part did he sell that he made a personal profit from?

Mid class partisan's avatar

His meme coin is a scam. His son’s quid pro qou real estate deals are scams. His persona ballroom is a scam. It’s all a scam. He bent over farmers and left them bleeding from the hole. He’s made shit for deals.

234's avatar

None of those 'American parts' belong to Americans, and no one is forcing you to buy any assets he sells, like real estate, meme coin, etc.

The ballroom is privately funded, is part of the White House, and belongs to all of us Americans.

Please take your deranged TDS elsewhere, champ.

Marianne Benioff's avatar

Actual proof please...

Steven Senecal's avatar

Operation mockingbird

NWCitizen's avatar

"Responding to a question about claims that the California election is rigged, Mike Johnson says proof is 'impossible' because such efforts are too upstream to trace. He adds that 'everybody knows instinctively that something is wrong.' The comments rely on perception rather than evidence and offer no verifiable proof of election interference."

Trump stormed out of an interview with Kristen Welker rather than offer any evidence about Jan 6 or his endless claims that elections are "rigged. Maybe he's relying on his "instincts."

Adam C. Mitchell's avatar

Wrong. Other states count votes in a day; it takes California days and sometimes weeks because they need time to make false ballots. It's also statistically impossible how many of these late votes go to Democrats. Finally, in the most recent case, the candidate had already conceded before days later enough votes magically came in to propel her to second place and exclude Spencer Pratt. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

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CA's counting system is DIFFERENT that other states! "CA has long been among the slowest states when it comes to counting ballots. That’s because California has “the most accessible, secure and verifiable election system in the country”, said Kim Alexander of the California Voter Foundation, a non-partisan voting rights group.

Every voter in CA receives a mail-in ballot, which most voters use to vote by mail. The signatures on those ballots are verified electronically and by human observers – and voters are given the opportunity to fix any errors within 22 DAYS of the election. The system prevents the state from having to discard ballots with minor errors, but means it can easily take more than 22 days for California to count all votes. CA accepts mail-in ballots that were postmarked on and before election day and received no later than a week after the election."

You of course believe the perpetual liar Trump who posted (with NO evidence) “The Dumocrats are at it again! They are trying to STEAL THE GOVERNOR OF CALIFORNIA PRIMARY, AND THE MAYOR OF LOS ANGELES, PRIMARY, AWAY FROM TWO GREAT REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES. Here we go with the very late and massive numbers of MAIL IN BALLOTS.”

Republicans can easily use mail=in-ballots but refuse to do so.

MLHVM's avatar

They don't talk to normal people so of course the echo chamber reverberates.

NWCitizen's avatar

What would you call Stone's comment pages? Everyone gushing over Stone and expressing profound agreement. Sounds like an echo chamber to me.

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PapayaSF's avatar

How do you have gatherings when people are in different states? Believe me or not, it doesn’t matter.

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PapayaSF's avatar

Dude, I’m not going dox myself or anyone else by explaining further. Let it go.

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Steenroid's avatar

Excellent point.

Pacificus's avatar

So true, Mad Dog. MAGA mocks, ridicules, and laughs at the Left, but we don't hate them. And that's maybe the most important distinction between the two sides.

Funny how we were always told that it is the Right who are the "haters"...

NWCitizen's avatar

Plenty of right wing commenters here are "haters." And Trump constantly spews hate, lies and nonsense. But Stone (and the right wing media) never bothers to mention unhinged things trump says or does.

Pacificus's avatar

Sorry, NW "right-wing" and Trump supporters are not synonymous.. IN fact, the Far Right hates Trump for being too pro- Israel, as we now know. Sorry, no sale.

Face it. You are in the party of Hate. Maybe take a look at that.

NWCitizen's avatar

Trump is the main hater, and Stone and commenters on this page seem to be major supporters who never acknowledge any of the hate, lies& nonsense he spews. Remember Trump’s use of Hitler rhetoric from a Veteran’s Day speech, 2023 saying, “We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like VERMIN within the confines of our country.” He's always calling them "radical leftwing lunatics", "sick", "deranged" , the "enemy within", etc.

Some comments on this site:

Dims Stink: We simply need to start killing these people before they start killing us. It ends no other way.

Spingerah: I jave no.problem.admiting the fact that I hate leftist scum "democrats" with the heat of six million suns. The prospect of slaughtering every one of them on my ever growing list is what I live for.

There is plenty of hate on both sides.

Pacificus's avatar

Yeah yeah, Trump says a lot of stuff... next thing you know, he's all buddy-buddy. Witness "Little Marco" Rubio who is now the Greatest Secretary of State in American history. Etc etc etc.

Trump's rhetoric is of the WWE-trash talk variety. It is the Left that is maniacal in its rhetoric, and means it. It's the Left's moral certainty that drives this rage.

Nope, today, most of the hate comes from the Left. Wasn't always this way, but it is now. Don't be afraid to acknowledge that rather un-arguable fact.

NWCitizen's avatar

Trump is erratic which is one of the characteristics that makes him unfit to be president. I find Trump to be an ignorant buffoon. I see plenty of "rage" on Stone's pages. Does it make you feel good to make the ridiculous, unquantifiable claim that "most of the hate comes from the left?

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Adam C. Mitchell's avatar

Of course he isn't. Trump never called anyone the Austrian painter, but millions of Democrats have done it to him. Trump never said any American should be illegally unalived, but untold tens of thousands call for Trump's assassination daily. Trump does behave badly, but millions of leftists took that as an opportunity to behave so much worse than Trump.

The reason Leftists are so much more hate-filled is because they are ends justify the means utopians. Many of those on the Right are restrained by their religion, the rule of law, etc. Leftists (progressives and those who hate capitalism) aren't restrained by anything. Leftism IS their religion and they despise anyone who opposes them on anything (J.K. Rowling found that out the hard way). There's a reason it was leftists who mass-murdered 100 million people during the 20th century alone for politically disagreeing with them, and the leftists have learned NOTHING from that. To them, earthly paradise is always just one more massacre away.

Pacificus's avatar

Well said. "...earthly paradise is always just one more massacre away." Kind of sums it up. Scary.

NWCitizen's avatar

Um, Hitler, fascists & neo-Nazis are FAR RIGHT. Trump uses the term "vermin" to refer to PEOPLE on the left, and he calls them marxists & fascists. He was "glad" Mueller died and calls for people to be HUNG like the 6 Democratic lawmakers who released a 90-second video in November 2025 reminding U.S. service members of their constitutional duty to refuse illegal orders.

ResistWeMuch's avatar

yes. also the nba.

RidgeCoyote’s Howling's avatar

Agree. I don’t hate them, I stopped thinking about them at all. They are all blocked on every social media platform I use. Not because they are offensive, but because they are boring. They all parrot the same messages fed to them by a corporate-owned media. They never have a creative idea nor a new thought or an original notion so why should I let them inflict me with their spam.

DLentz's avatar

It's funny, but we feel the same about you. Actually, I respect your right to have those feelings, which I don't think you reciprocate.

Blog Bloggersteen's avatar

I'm so happy Trump lost a war to Iran, it's all the proof I ever needed that you mindless death-cultists never need to be listened to ever again. All your messiahs have ever done for my entire life is start one meaningless war after another, and now after all that you lost it all on Iran. You are good at nothing beyond organized mass murder. Here's the thing though: Normally you wouldn't care about any of this, you got all the tax cuts that bezos and gates and soros ordered your party to give them. You got everything you wanted, the GOP is just playing with their dicks in Congress now because their entire agenda was fulfilled, AND YOU'RE STILL PISSED.

Die angry loser, I'll be laughing.

Adam C. Mitchell's avatar

A supporter of the party of "tolerance and compassion" everyone!

Brian M's avatar

I have ALWAYS been conservative. I was born this way to my Army dad. I can be open-minded socially (not to a crazy degree like the Progressives), but am financially conservative and always have been. So, for those dicks who want to boo the Leader of our country, F*ck yourselves. You are expressing your hatred of America when you boo a pro-American President. I never booed Obama or Biden, though I hated what they did to America. I respected the office. What kind of People undermine their own country and that of their neighbors, families and friends. All you do is make our nation weaker and less safe and less wealthy. You all know where you can go.

NothingButNet's avatar

👍 Indeed - the left is intolerant, petulant, petty and hateful. I’d feel sorry for them if they didn’t cause so much harm to the country. They are repulsive 🤮

Jan in NW FL's avatar

Well…they do hate America. A recent poll Elon University found that more than 50% of the polled Democrats want to leave the country. (They obviously never lived anywhere else in the world).

Faith's avatar

A bunch of them went to The Netherlands and were placed in temporary housing because of immigration policies and they weren't granted asylum because the USA is not a place people need to escape from - lol.

Marianne Benioff's avatar

So, why don't they all leave and let us live in peace?!

Trapped in IL's avatar

Please GO then, and don’t let the door hit you in the ass!

Lysenko's avatar

You're repeating from some Breitbart lie - Here are years worth of Elon Univ. polls:

https://www.elon.edu/u/elon-poll/

Kent Brown's avatar

I respected the office. What kind of People undermine their own country and that of their neighbors, families and friends. All you do is make our nation weaker and less safe and less wealthy. You all know where you can go. "Excellent well said!"

Dawn's avatar

Did Obama say the only good Republican is a dead one?

Jana's avatar

How is Trump fiscally conservative?

Brian M's avatar

He's not. Another reason why Trump is a converted Democrat and not a true Republican. Not at all sure what that has to do with me. I was never much of a Trump fan. But he does generally pursue my agenda, at least a lot better than the Democrat Marxists that run against him. My point was about respecting the office of President, not about being a fanboy, which I am not

Jana's avatar

Lol, since when are Republicans fiscally conservative — other than in promises? They blow up the economy every single time, run massive deficits repeatedly, and then Democrats come in and clean up the mess. It's remarkable that people who consider themselves fiscally conservative refuse to notice this repeated pattern.

I'm not defending Democrats, but the idea of Republicans as the party of fiscal conservatism is laughable. What they've actually delivered, over and over, is a transfer of wealth from the most vulnerable to the wealthiest — cutting social programs for those who need them most in order to fund tax cuts for the rich. Both of those trends are now on steroids.

Trump has no core values. He's an empty shell. And Democrats are not Marxists — Marxism calls for abolishing capitalism and seizing the means of production, which no Democrat is anywhere near advocating. You're just repeating his talking points. Most Democrats are closer to democratic socialists, and even that's a stretch for the majority of the party. Trump throws around words like Marxist, communist, and socialist with no regard for what they actually mean, and you've done the same.

Also, since this will likely come up: democratic socialism and National Socialism are not the same thing — they don't even belong in the same conversation. Democratic socialism is a left-wing economic reform movement. National Socialism was the Nazi ideology: fascist, authoritarian, and exterminationist. One has the word "democratic" in it for a reason. That is what Trump is fully aspiring to — dismantling institutions, building detention camps, imprisoning people based on ethnicity.

Glad he pursues "your agenda." You sound swell.

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Actually, Jana, you are very much defending Democrats, whether or not you claim to be one. Your "take from the rich and give to the poor" is the fundamental indicator of a Democrat or a Marxist. The rich are who build companies with their wealth and then hire people to work for those businesses and make those people wealthy as well. Just today, Elon Musk created thousands of new millionaires who went along for the ride with SpaceX. Why are you even on Sasha's site? The problem with the GOP is they are too interested in compromise. They need to take up the "fight to the bitter end" and obstruction philosophy of the Democrats. When the GOP compromises with the Dems on budget expansion, like in 2022 with Biden and the $5T in extra money Biden got through Congress, it is due to GOP compromises. Somehow, many GOP, especially the old establishment types like Mitch McConnell and John Thune, think doing a deal is the way to conduct Congress. Then people like you paint the GOP as the big spenders. So they really undermine their own platform of fiscal responsibility and efforts to hold the line on the budget. As I said, Trump is no frugal person. He does not help this process, which is one reason I opposed Trump in 2016. There are a handful of people in Congress, what is left of the Tea Party coalition, who want to be fiscally responsible. But for any politician, it is much easier to make voters happy by giving out freebies and tax cuts and letting some future politician worry what that does to the nation. I am in the frugal crowd. I would push back on wild spending. I would probably not get re-elected when I did.

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I came her to laugh at this ridiculous write up about Trump being booed and how you cultists hate us more for it. Again you don't understand what Marxism is and you don't understand that Democrats aren't wanting to take from the rich to give to the poor. What we want is for people and corporations to pay their share of taxes as they rape and pollute our country. The investors who were able to get in on the IPO initial offering were already millionaires. They don't offer the initial offering to regular people. It's the regular people who help the price explode when it hits the secondary market as the initial offering folks dump their shares and grab profits. It's a big club, and you ain't in it. . Oh also, explain to me how the GOP isn't the party of big spending? Tax cuts for the 1% is spending btw, so don't forget about that. Every republican has faithfully blown up our deficit over and over again. Watch what they do, not what they say. Have a blessed day

Brian M's avatar

I don't understand Marxism? That's a hoot. I understand it way better than you. What are you, a poorly educated GenZ? In the 1960s we were rightfully concerned about Marxism which was destroying the world. It has NEVER worked anywhere at any time, in almost 200 years (if we also take into account Karl Marx's friend and collaborator, Friedrich Engels. Communism is a great theory that sounds fair and equal. But it does not take into account human nature, the desire for freedom, which Marxism denies, and the "profit" motive, which drives every living animal. Marxism was born in a time of dying aristocracy and in that context, it might have made sense in 1850. By then the Reformation and Enlightenment had happened (late 1700s revolutions against aristocrats around the world) and western societies were already transforming into democratic societies with freedom and equality, with the chance to build the best life possible for oneself. Marxism requires an authoritarian government with oligarchs to run industry. You probably hate oligarchs because Bernie Sanders tells you to. But Bernie, an advocate for Soviet style communism, along with state control of industry and the oligarch / dictator structure, actively embraces all aspects of Soviet Communism, which includes the state running production and the economy which requires oligarchs. Bernie is a f-cking liar as is his disciple, AOC. Here are the words of Marx and Engels for you to read directly: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/Manifesto.pdf

RidgeCoyote’s Howling's avatar

I’ve always been liberal minded but libertarian. I liked Bernie, his first run he and Trump were saying a lot of the same things, especially about selling our industrial soul to China. I’m leaning these days to Chinese influence over the DNC, via the California Dems in charge of the largesse. But regardless, they are do obviously deeply corrupt that I can’t stand them anymore.

Brian M's avatar

Nailed it. The CCP, through the financial conduit of Roy Singham, their alliance with Bernie Sanders and Tim Walz, is controlling the Dem party. There are financial trails being traced out by the DOJ and there WILL be prosecutions for anyone acting illegally as foreign agents without registration (the same crime the Dems charged Gen Flynn with, though there was never evidence of Flynn taking money to undermine American govt)

RidgeCoyote’s Howling's avatar

Trump is the first president in the age of ai, and he’s using it to track down every money launderer and corrupt scammer hiding in the bureaucracy. And using the money’s seized to beautify DC. I don’t see Trump as a genius, but I see his administration as super intelligent and he’s the perfect leader to bring the right competent people together.

Brian M's avatar

I am not a fan of Trump's personality, but I do love his mentality as a Builder. FDR was the last Builder President we had and a lot of his multi-term work is enduring. There was also a lot wrong with FDR, but the building part was right. Hard to be proud of your country when it goes unmaintained and broken. Put all the unemployed to work doing the construction, just like FDR did.

Debi Johnson's avatar

Trump is always making fun of Obama and Biden. So I guess you are a better example than your president.

Faith's avatar

At this point they don't even think---they just react.

Larry Carlisle's avatar

For about ten years I’ve been asking how do I find common ground with people who want to talk about sex with kindergartners, pay “reparations” to people who weren’t slaves from people who didn’t own one, who want to limit my shower to a short one twice a week, force mass transit and property rental for shelter (except for them,) peddle the notion that gender is fluid, that there are 70 something genders, man made up climate change “science” is settled, and America is systemically racist. Not to mention the unbridled hatred they exhibit toward those with whom they disagree. The list could go on. They are certifiable kooks and I can never imagine sitting down to write public policy with the mentally ill left.

NWCitizen's avatar

Who wants to limit your showers? Trump wants to pay reparations to people who invaded and trashed the white house, injured Capital police, and threatened Mike Pence & Nancy Pelosi.

Do you recall how AFTER emancipation, blacks were treated with contempt and discriminated against for generations by Jim Crow Laws, were denied the benefits of the GI Bill which created the white middle class, and starting with Reagan, were subject to mass incarceration which peaked in 2010. The results of all these things have resulted in a significant “wealth gap” between blacks and white. Even though you would like to pretend that there is no division, US society is divided by class and wealth, with blacks being the underclass. BTW, plenty of people are still alive who experienced Jim Crow laws.

Larry Carlisle's avatar

People who vote just like you. Here is a link. They’d like you to learn about it. And conform. After that you can google Matthew Perna who isn’t the only person welcomed into the Capitol that day. After that you can go howl at the moon some more about Jim Crow. BTW, Is Jim Crow the cause of all the “teen” takeovers I’ve been reading about?

https://www.knau.org/earth-notes/2021-02-24/earth-notes-the-benefits-of-showering-less

NWCitizen's avatar

Hmm, I wonder why "knau.org" of Arizona would be interested in water usage? Could it be that Arizona is in a long-term drought that started in 1994 and the majority of the state is classified as being in a "severe drought"?

Right wing conspiracy theories have ridiculously been metamorphosizing Jan 6 into an event that was organized by the left. The right has come up with an ever-evolving narrative about what happened on Jan 6. First, it was "just a riot", then it was "a normal tourist day", then it was claimed that the FBI was behind it and Trump had nothing to do with it; in fact, he calls it a "day of love" and held a secret party on Jan 6 at Mar-a-lala to celebrate it.

Here are some articles debunking right wing nonsense:

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/16/nx-s1-5678645/jan-6-house-gop-capitol-trump

https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/democrats-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/hjc-dems-jan-6-myth-vs-fact.pdf

Could poverty have anything to do with conditions blacks teens experience?

Aaron Louie's avatar

I think it was a Kyle Rittenhouse meme (quoting Game of Thrones?) phrasing this best:

Your boos mean nothing; we've seen what makes you cheer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNcAs0Iz31A

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

Boom! That says it all in a nutshell!

PapayaSF's avatar

It’s a Rick and Morty reference.

JudyC's avatar

THAT’S a great quote! And as Lisa Ricketts’ comment states “that says it in a nutshell”!

Shelly947's avatar

They are just awful. Hate hate hate hate. And then, deflect and project.

Mad Dog's avatar

I just want to make sure I have this straight. You don't like them much, do you?

Bat Man's avatar

I wish she wouldn't sugar coat it so much.

Shelly947's avatar

I meant them with the hate 😜

I don’t hate them.

John's avatar

I'm just glad if he gets out of there alive.

Larry Fenton's avatar

At 75, I never thought I'd see this degree of culture rot before I died.

Pacificus's avatar

True, Larry. All this came about 20 years earlier than I expected/feared.

Gitch's avatar

Exactly, and we have to give the keys to the country to these clowns?

Rich Jacobson's avatar

It’s fascinating to see how every time The Left get a chance to show us who they really are, it’s always hateful, ugly, deranged and petulant.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

PETULANT is the best descriptor of their group behaviors for sure! I can't help but note that many of these bad actors were the first generation to experience a childhood NOT at home with mom, before and after school, but in institutional Daycare from early morning through to after shift pick-up. Imagine being one of 24 to a classroom from a young age and it only gets more crowded and less attention from there!

I get why they are so angry! They basically spent all their waking hours conforming to adult schedules and never really had blocks of time to explore in the backyard, turning over rocks and climbing trees, making rivers in your backyard sandbox. For these poor souls it was structure 24 hours a day 5 days per week. Then you go to college, go into debt and get a degree in a useless, BS subject. And it is 9-5, 5dqya per week.

Possibly this is the Daycare Generation reliving their toddler years.

julia's avatar

Interesting perspective.

Pacificus's avatar

Yes, Rich. "Grace" is a foreign concept to the Left. But I guess you need to believe in God in order to experience grace. There's your problem, as far as the Left is concerned.

NWCitizen's avatar

Describes Trump perfectly! Right wingers have very selective memoriews. Remember Trump’s use of Hitler rhetoric from a Veteran’s Day speech, 2023 saying, “We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like VERMIN within the confines of our country.” He's always calling them "radical leftwing lunatics", "sick", "deranged" , the "enemy within", etc. His Madison Square Gardens event was full of crude and racist comments.

Adam C. Mitchell's avatar

Prepare yourself; this might come as a shock. Are you ready? Here goes: patriotic Americans don't support "communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs"! We want them exposed for what they are and jailed if they commit crimes!

NWCitizen's avatar

Trump considers EVERYONE on the left to be "communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs". Do you want half the country jailed? The right had a fit when HRC called them "deplorables." Trump uses uglier terms everyday.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

LEFT refers to LEFTISTS, not your everyday Democrat voter. Though, it is getting difficult to discern one from the other these days, what with the Plandemic and the arbitrary rule setting that was ushered in by Democrat legislators, Governors and bureaucrats!

NWCitizen's avatar

You mean the "plandemic" that killed 103,486,000 americans?

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

You know what I mean. And the death numbers are skewed due to hospitals profiting off of Federal reimbursements and forcing patients who came in for other medical complaints, yet were then housed with Covid patients.

Jen Todd's avatar

Troll, how much do you get paid to troll?

Brian M's avatar

CCP has deep pockets and a lot of agents imported into America during Biden's open borders, in order to take covert control of America

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

True! These the CCP had their own compound down at the Darian Gap! A fact which a Liberal reporter noticed and questioned, in his quest to disprove Trumps assertions about the hoards of people progressing toward our borders, being helped along the way by NGO's like Catholic Charities and Other interested actors' looking fill their coffers with taxpayer dollars!

Jen Todd's avatar

Is NWCitizen, in fact, a citizen of northwest China? They/them's comments lead me to believe that's possible. Pimping propaganda is a good indicator.

NWCitizen's avatar

How much do you get paid to insult?

Jen Todd's avatar

I actually PAY MONEY to bitch slap your ignorant comments. You contribute absolutely nothing.

NWCitizen's avatar

Your silly insults don't bother me so you are wasting your money.

Jen Todd's avatar

Paying to support Sasha's work is wasted? You are an unfortunate side effect and clearly not a smart person.

George Shay's avatar

This is the most predictable story of the year. I'm sure Trump knew it would happen and couldn’t care less.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

Still, it had to be somewhat demoralizing as he is a life long New Yorker, born and raised. He put his heart and soul into that city and a ton of capital! He was always a cheerleader for the city and an ambassador. I'm a Californian and I've known of Donald Trump since the 1980's.

My heart aches for his granddaughter, as she has to see and hear how selfish and awful these creatures truly are. It reminds me of being a child and seeing the Riots and protests at UC Berkeley, and being afraid of hippies, and the Manson Family murderers, etc.

Even as a child, I could tell that they were all the same kind of self-centered good for nothing parasites, having adult temper tantrums, much like the ones my younger brother would throw when he wanted something that did not belong to him.

Orenv's avatar

In some ways it is a flex.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

True. Still going out in public despite the continued attempts on his life. I heard the security lines were quite long and the tickets were priced in the uber rich range.

Outlaw18's avatar

I also didn’t vote for Trump I voted against the Demoncrats and will continue to do it as long as I reside on this rock we call earth

B Lowrance's avatar

As hard as it is as a human, you all know, we are not to hate as Christians. Don’t want to preach to anybody, but sometimes we all need reminded what Jesus said about hating anyone. I try to remind myself that they are all lost and blinded.

Maxx Mueller's avatar

Thanx for "not preaching". I'm not a Christian and certainly don't need to be reminded of what any religious leader or denomination has to say or think about or to me.

I'm happy for you, but wish you could keep your religious beliefs to yourself, your family, your friends & the other adherents to your belief system.

That being said, the surplus of hate is so huge throughout society that each of us has a responsibility to tone things down for the good of ALL.

Benj's avatar

Gosh I'm sorry that Jesus' message leaked and you got some on you.

dan brandt's avatar

So seculars can say what they want but religious talk is a no no. It’s called free speech. If you don’t like it try some personal control and don’t read it. Ever heard of the concept of you can’t control others, only yourself? You’re really no different from the religious folks you denigrate.

C Boyle's avatar

“That being said, the surplus of hate is so huge throughout society that each of us has a responsibility to tone things down for the good of ALL.” Well, that’s pretty much what Jesus said.

Upinthehills's avatar

Jesus specifically said to be disciples and share him everywhere. We are not to keep him at home in the closet. In fact, that’s part of the problem. We also have freedom of religion and freedom of speech. Sorry you don’t want to hear the good news. It’s quite a big deal.

Maxx Mueller's avatar

I hear similar things like this all the time : Jesus said this, Jesus said that, ad infinitum. I'm happy y'all are able to believe, and find comfort in all this stuff, and are convinced of your future of everlasting life in the hereafter. Sadly, I won't be joining your cult, but wish you the very best.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

I think people use the word hate because it is easier than taking the time to really asses the situation and search our minds for more appropriate words to describe our thought and feelings about those who demonize us and our country.

Hate is the Democrats chosen word and we hear it so much and are often caught up in the dynamic of projecting, because they threw that particular word out. We need to be mindful and choose the words we use, not react to their words with like words, but with reasoned and thoughtful messages, if we react at all.

We could just ignore the pedantic, emotional displays that they fire off every other minute. much like we might do with our toddlers. If you feed their bad behavior by reacting to it or pleading with them to stop, bribing them with treats and toys as though they were a dog, don't be surprised if they continue the behavior.

dan brandt's avatar

“They” want to change my country. As Biden said, fundamentally. What does that mean? How will they accomplish it? Our constitution doesn’t allow for a federal government other than what we have. If you want to change it, the method is in the constitution. You can’t change it by popular vote of the people nor by legislation. So what is their plan? I know an appropriate response that can be used in the end. The 2nd Amendment. And even if the left is trying to disarm us, you don’t just get rid of over 300 million guns. I know the ending. It was the same as the beginning. People sacrifice all to remain free. I live in the plains. The coasts are mainly good for showing the rest of us want not to do. You can throw in Minneapolis and Chicago. If there were no fraud, there would be no poverty. Think about how the left is the greatest impediment to there stated moral goals. If NYC fails but the country learns the lessons necessary to keep from following them down the hole to being a third world shit hole, I’m willing to let them sacrifice themselves. Call me selfish and I never swear, but F them all!

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

How about loathe or despise with the heat of a thousand suns

Christine's avatar

I like that! 😃

NWCitizen's avatar

Right wingers have very selective memories. Remember Trump’s use of Hitler rhetoric from a Veteran’s Day speech, 2023 saying, “We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like VERMIN within the confines of our country.” He's always calling them "radical leftwing lunatics", "sick", "deranged" , the "enemy within", etc. His Madisonon Square Gardens event was full of crude and racist comments.

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Hitler is well-known for calling Jews and others he wanted to denigrate "vermin." I wonder how trump came up with the term.

Adam C. Mitchell's avatar

Hitler also breathed oxygen! And drank water!

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NWCitizen's avatar

Hitler applied the term "vermin" to HUMANS, not to rats & mice, implying they should be destroyed like animal pests. Trump is referring to humans also when he uses the term "vermin".

How is trump referring to a "subset of immigrants" when he says "we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like VERMIN..." RIght wingers including people on this site are always referring to all Americans on the left as communists which is ridiculous. Trump thinks everyone on the left is a communist and a radical left lunatic.

Lady Mariposa's avatar

What did Jesus say about hating anyone?

Adam C. Mitchell's avatar

Not to do it. Hatred is mentally, physically, and spiritually corrosive. As a wise man once said, hating someone is like taking poison and then expecting that person to die.

Lu Bee's avatar

Wrong. You are not to hate people, but you are to hate evil. Evil behavior, evil actions, etc.

Samhain's avatar

My take is that the booing would have been funny, or actually the cool thing they think it is, if they didn't actively run basically every form of mainstream media. So, instead of this being the "resistance" they think it is, it just serves to remind everybody why they are justifiably loathed by most decent people.

NNTX's avatar

I saw a clip with loud and persistent chants of USA, USA, USA.

These folks are the equivalent of the trolls on X who respond with ungrammatical and illogical comments—or just plain lies.

IGNORE THEM

Jackson74's avatar

It’s kind of the way the left does Let’s Go Brandon — not with people, but with the media

Maxx Mueller's avatar

Ignore them ? Nah, I respect them. 🇺🇸.

Robin Bernhoft's avatar

Five large psych studies of the Left over the past century all showed the same info: people on the Left tend strongly to be of low self-esteem, full of envy and anger (especially against anyone more successful than they are), self-righteous, morally superior (after all they'll kill innocent people at both ends of the life cycle but not violent criminals nor enemies of their country), on average have two or three major mental health issues and are prone to violence. Leftism is a psychiatric condition. Robin Bernhoft, MD, FACS, FAAEM

Brian DeLeon's avatar

From Kristin Welker acting like a petulant child on Face the Nation Sunday, to the Knicks game, these leftists are so predictable, they’re not worth paying attention to. You know a sizable amount of the country despises Trump, so I say ignore them. All they want is the attention. Just like Hykim Jeffries, every word out of his mouth is stupider than the previous words. I just ignore him too. I’m not going to watch the NBA finals because I don’t have skin in the game, and the NBA went woke years ago.

(I say Hykim Jeffries because that’s how Victor Davis Hanson pronounces the name, and I think that’s funny)

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

Is it still NBA season?

Debi Johnson's avatar

Trump was the petulant one who walked away from the interview. He made statements he had no evidence for. And got mad when she asked for evidence.

Steve's avatar

I don't understand The Hatred of Donald Trump.

PapayaSF's avatar

I think TDS is a number of things. One is that he’s got a lot of New York City abrasiveness to his style. One is that he’s funny and often zings his enemies. People who take establishment politics Very Seriously see this as “unpresidential." One is that he’s a masculine figure representing tradition, which triggers people with daddy issues. But the biggest is that he’s a direct threat to the whole post-war globalist-liberal-progressive-woke consensus. Many people have that view as a core part of their being and self-worth. The view is held almost religiously. Telling them they’re wrong is a major threat to what they think makes them “a good person.”

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

A well thought out and reasoned response. I agree!

I would add that the TDS people generally take in a steady diet of "Orange man bad", Orange man oppressor", Orange man grab pussy" (never thought I'd be typing that word, but I don't like to lie). This style of "Journalism" reducing a twice elected President of the United States of America, to the color of his skin... is very telling about how the Democrat Elites see all of us and how they instruct their followers to label and categorize people as though we are nothing more than a manipulative game that

preschoolers' are encouraged to use when learning to count, sort and classify!

NWCitizen's avatar

A masculine figure? He acts and speaks like a toddler!

Jen Todd's avatar

You have no idea what masculine means. Your prepubescent commentary speaks for itself.

NWCitizen's avatar

His toddler behavior includes his kindergarten style of communication, poor impulse control, a focus on immediate gratification, emotional outbursts and temper tantrums. And he apparently needs to start taking a nap since he can't stay awake at cabinet meetings or even NBA games.

Steve's avatar

"And he apparently needs to start taking a nap since he can't stay awake at cabinet meetings"

Grand Pa Joe?

Jen Todd's avatar

Remember when Sleep Joe almost did something meaningful? Neither do I.

NWCitizen's avatar

I guess Trump must be following his example since he does it almost every day.

Orenv's avatar

He won and is effective despite all they do. This is what brings out the hate as they can't have respect for someone who is just better than them at getting elected. Sore losers.

NWCitizen's avatar

WHat has been effective? Bringing down prices? His promises not to start any new wars?

These are examples of him promising not to start new wars:

-“They said: ‘He will start a war.’ I’m not going to start a war. I’m going to stop wars.”

-“You don’t have to send your kids out to war, have your kid blown up for a country that you’ve never heard of and that doesn’t want anything to do with you anyway. But I will not send you to fight and die in a foolish, never-ending foreign war.”

-“I kept us out of new wars. Everyone said: ‘Oh, Trump, it’s his – he’ll be in a war his first week.’ Instead of that, I got you out of wars.”

Then he said in the NBC interview, taped Friday in Wisconsin, that as a candidate, “I didn’t promise anything.”

Trump said he was “doing the world a service” and “doing our country a service” because he had to stop Iran from having a nuclear weapon. But elsewhere in the interview, Trump repeated a contradictory message where he said U.S. strikes last year “obliterated” Iranian nuclear sites.

Trump made this comment in May 2026 while discussing his ongoing military campaign against Iran. He boasted that the U.S. had "ONLY" lost 13 service members, adding "Somebody else would've lost 100,000 people, OK"

The right blasted Biden for YEARS after August 26, 2021, when a suicide bombing committed by an ISIS-K terrorist at Abbey Gate during the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan killed 13 U.S. service members.

Adam C. Mitchell's avatar

Effective in: 1. Appointed the Supreme Court justices who overturned Roe 2. Securing the border 3. Deporting illegals 4. Getting NATO members to promise to spend more on defense 5. Temporarily stopping Iran from getting the bomb. 6. Reducing government waste and manpower, including getting rid of 300,000 federal employees 7. Addressing our trade deficit 8. Keeping the economy doing well, with interest rates set to be cut 9. Fighting racism by opposing DEI 10. Standing up against Anti-Semitism at the University level 11. Dropping crime rates dramatically in D.C. 12. Sinking multiple drug smuggling ships 13. Stopping the supposed “g-word” in Gaza and freeing the hostages. 14. Removing a dictator who ignored the last election and was not recognized as a legitimate national leader by the US. or the EU; in fact Biden raised the bounty on his head to $25 million.

NWCitizen's avatar

1. “SCOTUS has issued a series of landmark decisions and emergency orders that have expanded executive power and rolled back civil protections during the Trump administration (and you don’t think trump is an authoritarian) including presidential immunity; allowing Trump to fire INDEPENDENT agency heads; allowing gerrymandered maps that lower courts had found to discriminate against minority voters; allowing the administration to proceed with aggressive deportation raids and to detain individuals without "reasonable suspicion" of unlawful presence; allowing DHS to deport noncitizens to third-party countries without checking if they face torture risks.

Since Roe has been overturned, doctors are afraid to terminate pregnancies that threaten the mother’s life such as infections of the womb, high blood pressure, etc; allowing women to die.

https://msmagazine.com/2026/04/04/women-died-emergency-abortion-miscarriage-doctors/

5. Since Iran does not have a bomb, I think all previous presidents have also stopped Iran from getting the bomb, but Trump started a war which resulted in shutting the Strait of Hormuz leading to sky high gas prices. 7. Tariffs directly inflate the prices of imported goods, costing Americans thousands of dollars annually in higher retail prices for items like clothing, electronics, and groceries. When the U.S. imposes import taxes, foreign nations frequently retaliate with duties on American-made products which harms U.S. export-heavy sectors, such as agriculture and manufacturing 8. The annual inflation rate in May rising from 2.4% a year ago to 4.2%, which was up 0.5% from April. Interest rates are expected to stay relatively stable or potentially rise slightly in the near term due to lingering inflation and geopolitical tensions. . 9. Repubs are eager to eliminate subjects like black history in schools. Trump also halted and defunded hundreds of specific federal grants focusing on health disparities and diversity. There are large differences in outcomes for black and white patients, ; for example, black women are three times more likely to die due to a pregnancy-related cause compared to White women. These issues need to be studied. 11. Crime rates continued to fall in 2025, with homicides down 21% from 2024 and 44% since a recent peak in 2021, likely bringing the national homicide rate to its lowest level in more than a century, according to an analysis of crime trends in 40 LARGE U.S. CITIES released by the Council on Criminal Justice (CCJ). 12. Trump claimed he was stopping fentanyl from coming into the US from Venezuela when they are known to produce cocaine. He blew up boats manned by poor people looking for ways to make money for survival. Why didn’t they take prisoners instead of murdering them? A month before, Trump pardoned ex-president of Honduras, Juan Orlando Hernández, who was serving a 45-year sentence in an American prison for building a corrupt and brutally violent empire based on the illegal trafficking of tons of cocaine to the US. Can you explain that? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyp36dwnezo 13. Used military action to remove Maduro from Venezuela which made him cocky thinking he could eliminate Iran’s leaders to allow the protesters to take over Iran making him a giant hero. Instead, the revolutionary guard took over. 14. In the middle east, three separate ceasefire deals are currently in effect. In all three, deadly strikes are still a frequent occurrence. https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/ceasefires-havent-stopped-deadly-strikes-gaza-lebanon-gulf-rcna348774

Orenv's avatar

If ever there was a time to attack Iran, he did it. He could easily have brushed it aside, but he took a risk. We will see if it pays off. I have no idea if it will, but it could if he does what I think he will do which is end the current regime in Iran. Biden stupidly gave up Bagram and tried to evacuate from the middle of Kabul. He stopped the border invasion and is systematically clearing out the mess made over decades by his predecessors and hardly addressed in the first term.

NWCitizen's avatar

Right. He destroyed Obama's nuclear agreement because his main goal during his first term was "must undo Obama."

The reason Trump attacked Iran now is because Netanyahu convinced him if they wiped out the current leaders of of Iran, the people who had been protesting would rise up and take over the country and Trump would be a giant HERO! Instead the revolutionary guard took over and Trump has no idea what to do.

Orenv's avatar

The agreement could not be verified because the Iranians had secret locations and locations that were off limits for the IAEA inspectors. The presence and use of ballistic missiles that could reach Europe are an example of how the Iranians were lying. All that is irrelevant because the former supreme commander said there was a religious ruling against nuclear weapons. However they claim to have enriched U to 60%. So I guess he was lying too.

NWCitizen's avatar

Here's a reasonable summary of events.

https://armscontrolcenter.org/the-iran-deal-then-and-now/

Nothing Trump has done has improved the situation.

NWCitizen's avatar

Such a short boring insult. You're slipping!

Jen Todd's avatar

You're too simple to comprehend more than that.

Jen Todd's avatar

Are you another dumbass that has a comprehension problem?

KZwick's avatar

Vampires hate sunlight and crucifixes.

Minsky's avatar

That is because you are told you must label any rational explanation of why he is disliked as 'TDS', and ignore it.

Be that as it may, rational people tend to dislike someone guilty of doing the following, (among countless similar acts) and Trump is guilty of all of them:

****-using the presidency to enrich their family to the tune of billions of dollars, i.e. on a historically unprecedented scale.

-raping a woman

-promising 'no new wars' as a presidential candidate and then as president wading the U.S. into another hopeless quagmire in the Middle East

-attempting to overturn an election because he didn't like the outcome

-using the DOJ to prosecute his enemies without evidence (as definitively proven by the failure of those prosecutions to result in convictions, or even in some cases indictments)

-pardoning insurrectionists (while pursuing those ill-fated DOJ prosecutions)

-pardoning narcoterrorist kingpins (see: the pardon of Juan Orland Hernandez)

-sends the marines into American cities against the wishes of their governor, their police chief, their people--using a small domestic disturbance as an excuse

-suing news organizations that are critical of him, and then assigning them 'bias monitors'

-deletes evidence of the kidnapping of children in order to stay in the good graces of a strongman (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/trump-ukraine-children-russia-war-kidnapping-evidence-b2717730.html) ****

...the list goes on. And on. And on.

It is only sane that one would dislike such a person, if one has any sense of ethics.

Sadly, those who do not wish to acknowledge all this, and lack the capacity to refute it, inevitably accuse others of being insane for the mere mention of these actions. Thus the accusations of 'TDS'.

Steve's avatar

You forgot leaving the toilet seat up, not using his turn signal when making a left hand turn, Drinking milk out of the bottle, leaving his underwear in the middle of the bedroom.

Minsky's avatar

I find it telling you find all those comparable to rape, insurrection, and the exploitation of presidential power for unprecedented personal enrichment.

Steve's avatar

Actually I was making Fun of your silly arguments.

Minsky's avatar

If you think it is 'silly' to dislike someone because they did everything I listed above, as Trump did, I think you may have a severly dysfunctional definition of what is 'serious'.

Adam C. Mitchell's avatar

Except you're lying. There is no criminal conviction of Trump for raping a woman, Iran is not a "hopeless quagmire", especially since we wisely haven't committed ground troops, etc, etc.

Steve's avatar

Did He...OR is that what Corporate Media says?

Jen Todd's avatar

Raping a woman? Facts are clearly irrelevant to whatever fantasy you believe in. I've read your comments and find them desperately low on comprehension. Don't bother to reply beacuse you're boring.

Minsky's avatar

The courts disagree, and you have no argument to refute them. From page 5 of the court’s ruling in the E J Carrol case:

****

“Instead, the proof convincingly established, and the jury implicitly found, that Mr. Trump

deliberately and forcibly penetrated Ms. Carroll’s vagina with his fingers, causing immediate pain

and long lasting emotional and psychological harm. Mr. Trump’s argument therefore ignores the

bulk of the evidence at trial, misinterprets the jury’s verdict, and mistakenly focuses on the New

York Penal Law definition of “rape” to the exclusion of the meaning of that word as it often is used

in everyday life and of the evidence of what actually occurred between Ms. Carroll and Mr. Trump.”

https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/carroll-trump-rule-59-denied-southern-district-new-york.pdf

******

Adam C. Mitchell's avatar

Learn the difference between a civil suit and criminal charges, especially the difference in burden of proof.

Minsky's avatar

I find it very strange that your rebuttal here is to affirm that a jury found a preponderance of evidence (the burden of proof in question) that Trump raped EJ Carrol, and that he is liable of such.

Very strange rebuttal indeed, if you’re somehow trying to argue Trump *didn’t* rape her.

But then again you cannot make that claim, because a court has refuted it already.

Jen Todd's avatar

Anyone with half a brain could see the orchestrations required to elevate a nonsensical story from a bitter, lonely woman chronically desperate for relevancy. No self-respecting 50yr old woman would ever go into a changing room with a man she doesn't know to take off her clothes to try on lingerie. Of course, I'm not sure E. Jean Carroll is at all respectable. The whole fantasy was preposterous in its assertions, legal manipulations and funding.

Anymore, I refuse to handhold idiots through the thought process required to decern between fact and fiction. It's the usual circular conversation that goes nowhere.

Minsky's avatar

A judge and jury disagree. If you want to dispute the evidence upon which they based their conclusions, fine, but you’ve offered nothing specific and Insulting the victim is not an argument.

Orenv's avatar

Biden and Clinton were known rapists. So there is that precedent.

Minsky's avatar

Let’s say we grant that they were (there isn’t any evidence Biden was, but whatever)—how does that make the fact of Trump’s rape any less detestable?

Orenv's avatar

Because such behavior is NORMALIZED in our society. We can wish it wasn't, but apparently it is. Just getting raped as migrants is an acceptable price for THEM to pay to enter the USA so we FUNNEL them through the cartels to enable it. We all pretend to be shocked, but we are complicit. We all seek partisan advantage by playing our heinous games. And BTW, there isn't any "evidence" that would stand up in court that any of them were. Just he said, she said.

Minsky's avatar

Just because an unethical behavior has been normalized does not make it any more ethical. Normalizing bad behavior doesn’t make it ethical—it just makes the people (and the society) who accede to its normalization *less* ethical.

So, even if certain forms of terrible behavior have been normalized, it is nonetheless perfectly rational to dislike someone who has engaged in them. Calling that ‘derangement’ is therefore inaccurate, and also a bit dishonest.

The OP said ‘I don’t understand the hatred of Trump.’ I am merely explaining its rational basis. The litany of severe ethical transgressions Trump has made (again, listed above) are the main component of that basis.

Orenv's avatar

Uh huh. I see you have no problem with hapless children forced through the cartel gauntlet. A definite data point. A lot of that supposed behaviour has been made up, but is assumed to be gospel. Biden was said to have penetrated a staffer with his finger in the hallway of the Senate while hoping for more since he was using his "charm". Since Democrats are pretty much immune to sexual harassment ruination with the exception of Al Franken, one of the few with a tiny bit of conscience who resigned. How many have kept silent knowing that no matter what they said, nothing would happen to the perpetrator, and they would be ruined? You are encouraged to retain your ethics. I hope everyone does. If we were to all retain this form of ethics, about 90% of the congress and Senate would need a new job. Lets throw them out and replace them with ethical people. However that seems to be an unlikely outcome. In the meantime one must choose from the available choices. Democrats in Maine had choices and they chose who they chose with a sizeable majority.

Christine's avatar

Now do Obama and Biden! 🤦‍♀️

Minsky's avatar

I could, there's plenty to dislike there. (though not nearly as much by now--Trump has racked up quite the list of vices since he started his second term) But they're not president.

I could also ignore every bad thing they ever did and say anyone who dislikes them has Obama/Biden Derangement Syndrome. But that would be irrational.

For some reason, vast hordes of Trump supporters can only pursue the latter, irrational approach, even though--in case you haven't noticed--Trump is currently POTUS.