Hong had to be the worst candidate I have ever witnessed (worse than woman-abusing NAZI-man). And she barely lost. She has childish, fantasy positions. Everyone is an oppressor and frightening to her. She has no financial sense. Far Left governor Tony Evers even ran away from her and pulled a candidate out of the trash-bin who won with a big dose of financial support from the Dem Establishment. What is it with the DSA? This is exactly how Russia went down in the early 1900s, attacked by elite children in universities who stopped at nothing to wield power.
AND that she was running for GOVERNOR! Can you imagine the damage?! (Much like idiot Mamdani in NYC). It’s one thing to run for Senate or Congress where your insanity gets diluted by hundreds or at least dozens of other votes. It’s ANOTHER THING to be the CHIEF EXECUTIVE where ONE person can burn the whole thing down. (That’s a feature, not a bug for the left.)
Indeed, she is/was one of the worst, most despicable of candidates lately but she still won almost as many votes as the standard Marxist-democrat candidate. Our republic is quite polarized and divided down to the state, city and district levels. That's not good for our future. Still, it is good that she has been sent home to stew in her hatred of us and America. I don't give the Rs much chance to beat Crowley; it is Wisconsin after all.
Totally agree that Tom Tiffany will not beat Crowley, who is black in Milwaukee and has the Democrat machine behind him to make sure he gets enough votes. Tiffany has no machine and is not to dynamic. That race is already over. And why again does some 2nd gen Korean-American have such hate for America? We saved their bacon in the 1950s. My dad fought and had friends die for her freedom. And there is virtually no racism in America against Koreans. No one bothers them. But she hates America. Wow!
She hates us and America so much because she has been given all the freedom she wanted but, since she is a woman, a Marxist-democrat and a socialist, she feels she must join the other socialists, Marxists, and radical democrats (most of that party) to tear down our society and rebuild it to their like. These hate-filled, angry, clueless, mostly white, ignorant inhabitants of our country are never going to quit or even abate their desire and actions to destroy our current way of life.
The real reason Hong lost is because no big name DSA members visited and campaigned for her. They realized how toxic her “Cancel Thanksgiving” message is. And she barely lost! One Bernie, AOC or Mamdani visit could have put her over the top! Insane times.
Even Bernie and AOC could smell the toxicity of this woman from a thousand miles away. No leaders want to stick their necks out and back an obvious loser.
Part of me thinks that this DSA thing peaked with Mamdani and is already losing steam. I’m probably wrong, but Hong losing and AES barely winning give me a sliver of hope.
It would seem that they are severely losing momentum – and that was the Demonic Sociopaths of America's biggest 'selling' point. But now sanity is taking hold and hopefully the left will just settle back to their regular level of crazy.
The big story to me is why the polls were so far off. Not only in the case of the Hong race but in the el-Sayed race as well. Both races were very close while poll after poll had the DSA candidate up by double digits. It tells me that pollsters have far too many college educated white women in their samples and not enough working class black men.
This doesn't bode well for the general election for DSA candidates if black voters show up to vote.
This is exactly what is going on, IMHO. Structuring a question is critical for an accurate poll result. It's likely that these polls are being designed by leftist nitwits who can't keep their own opinions in check when they structure the questions.
One reason is that today's pollsters have trouble finding enough people who want to participate in their polls.
And because the DSA supporters are the most fervent, committed voters out there, they are most likely to answer a pollsters call and participate in the poll.
The polls in Michigan and Wisconsin missed by 15-25% points for that reason. It will be interesting to see if Talarico in Texas is also benefiting from the same thing (although he's not a declared DSA, he's the next closest thing, policy wise).
I think this is right. The fanatical white, college-educated, DSA-supporting women are all too happy to tell everyone how they feel. The working class voters are not so eager to share their views. I think the strength of DSA candidates in areas that are not deep blue is over-estimated by quite a margin. Pollsters are going to have to adjust their likely voter models.
Yes, some polls are bad and are designed to produce a specific outcome but the average of polls has been a fairly reliable indicator of most races. Even in 2016 when everyone thought Hillary had it in the bag, the polls were actually pretty accurate. She was never as far ahead as she thought.
It is very simple. Activists are instructed to always talk to pollsters. It is part of their job as activists. Regular people do not want to talk to pollsters. So of course, the activists are over-represented in the samples, especially for primaries which tend to have low turnout.
True. The Dem Establishment controls the voting booth in most states. But the GenZ Left controls the polling, which is run by young people willing to canvas door to door or by phone. That polling was skewed ridiculously for Hong (20-25% advantage over Crowley) which means the polling was rigged to discourage the opponent's voters. That is a well-worn page in the Democratic Party playbook
That was my initial reaction. The establishment Dems must still control the vote manipulation machine in Wisconsin to the extent that they could come up with just barely enough votes to make sure she lost.
Shit, forgot that! Is definitely part of the AWFL uniform...and blue, pink or purple hair up there and clothing that wouldn't attract any man, even at last call after shots of Cuervo all night long
An important element that needs to to be explained is the gross in accuracy of the pre-election poles both in Michigan and in Wisconsin. In both Michigan and in Wisconsin, the pre-election poles showed the DSA-type candidate winning by double digits. Double digits, but in Michigan El Syed barely won (not double digits – –by 1%) in Wisconsin the DSA candidate Hong lost. She had been comfortably ahead in the polls.
The polling in both cases was grossly wrong in favor of the DSA candidates. Doesn’t this raise serious questions about what is going on with the polling?
Black people don’t answer polls. Neither do most normal white people. This has been the case now for a very long time. I can’t tell you how many times I delete text polls around primary and especially general election season. And, pick up an actual phone cold call? Not happening.
"Neither do most normal white people." Exactly right. The extremes are loud and proud about their positions and their candidates. Just like the No Kings protests - those people wanted to be seen - it's important that their cohort notice their attendance/participation/advocacy.
What is going on is two things. One, the usual polling outfits are biased and shape poll results to fit their agenda. Two, the Marxist-democrat-media complex makes the polls the story and amplifies the effect of the biased polls. Both of these methods are designed to sway the useful idiots' thinking they are going to win if they get to the polls and vote. It's been happening for the last 26 years. "Hillary has a 92% chance to win in '16!!!"
"... her bid was being driven by the fanatical psychopaths coming soon to a ballot box near you." No, I live in the Free State of Florida, where GOP registrations are 1.5 million (yes, million) more than Dems. Liberals have been fleeing our state recently, to which we tell them, "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out"
Hong did win. A late night Milwaukee ballot dump, complete with dubious USB vote tallies, stole it from her. That's how the Dems roll, they steal elections from other Dems in the primary the same way they steal elections from Republicans. Let's be clear about that.
The fact that Hong almost won is shocking enough. That her opponent is considered to be a more "moderate", "establishment" type is even more shocking. His prescription for everything is more taxes and more wealth redistribution - more socialism, in other words, more cowbell. He wants to erase zoning laws to permit building huge apartment complexes in any neighborhood "by right — without special permits or neighborhood hearings". He wants to recruit private companies to implement government energy policy under the auspices of a brand new government bureaucracy to ensure compliance (which elsewhere in history has been called "fascism"). And that is the modern Democrat party's "pragmatic moderate".
Wisconsin typically disappoints Milwaukee Co. execs when they run for governor (E.g. Tom Barrett), and Crowley, a.k.a. "Dirt McGirk," is an undisciplined man with a poor record.
He flipping forgot to renew county employees' insurance.
Wisconsinites are no different from other voters when it comes to resenting the crime, cheating, and resource hogging of their state's blue shitholes. Nobody wants to hear from Dirt McGirk.
You are right. Winning a battle is not winning the war. To be honest, what scares me more is people voting for someone who is so obviously inauthentic. Same with Kamala. When did we loose our sense of discernment?
Real problem is they are largely limousine liberals caught up in the Marxist movement.
Kind of like the George Floyd riots where 90% of the people were peacefully protesting but the other 10% used the 90% as a cover for their misdeeds. Communists and Marxists and Leninists and Fascists have been hiding under the Democrat Party banner for 1/2 a century and the media looks....sees mostly peaceful protestors...and shapes the narrative for America to misread.
Woke 1 was PC culture in the 90s. I refuse to use their language. They don't get to rebrand. Their woke stupidity remains the same, I don't care what they call it.
The GOP put money towards Hong winning because they thought she’d be the easiest to beat. Remember that. The HRC DNC put money towards Trump winning because they thought he’d be the easy one to beat…this game plan can backfire quickly for either party.
There have been references in the popular media anout the feminization of our culture. The rise of the DSA is more likely the dumbification of our culture. The COVID scamdemic is just another example. There was so much evidence against the wrongheaded mitigation efforts at “flattening the curve” and other nonsense but the dumbed down populace and medical profession refused to believe what “their lying eyes saw”. How much evidence do we need to convince us that socialism (now matter what new name you give it) DOES NOT WORK. Beam me up Scotty!
What is really scary to me is that most of my highly intelligent friends all fell for it and still are. They are the most educated ones, the ones that are better off. They all fell for it and still are! Those of us with common sense saw through it right away. It’s terrifying to me how many people are, even now, doubling down.
Hong had to be the worst candidate I have ever witnessed (worse than woman-abusing NAZI-man). And she barely lost. She has childish, fantasy positions. Everyone is an oppressor and frightening to her. She has no financial sense. Far Left governor Tony Evers even ran away from her and pulled a candidate out of the trash-bin who won with a big dose of financial support from the Dem Establishment. What is it with the DSA? This is exactly how Russia went down in the early 1900s, attacked by elite children in universities who stopped at nothing to wield power.
AND that she was running for GOVERNOR! Can you imagine the damage?! (Much like idiot Mamdani in NYC). It’s one thing to run for Senate or Congress where your insanity gets diluted by hundreds or at least dozens of other votes. It’s ANOTHER THING to be the CHIEF EXECUTIVE where ONE person can burn the whole thing down. (That’s a feature, not a bug for the left.)
You mean like Timmy Walz has destroyed Minnesota? Yep. One man or woman is all it takes
Tim Walz to Mark Dayton...."Hold my beer."
Indeed, she is/was one of the worst, most despicable of candidates lately but she still won almost as many votes as the standard Marxist-democrat candidate. Our republic is quite polarized and divided down to the state, city and district levels. That's not good for our future. Still, it is good that she has been sent home to stew in her hatred of us and America. I don't give the Rs much chance to beat Crowley; it is Wisconsin after all.
Totally agree that Tom Tiffany will not beat Crowley, who is black in Milwaukee and has the Democrat machine behind him to make sure he gets enough votes. Tiffany has no machine and is not to dynamic. That race is already over. And why again does some 2nd gen Korean-American have such hate for America? We saved their bacon in the 1950s. My dad fought and had friends die for her freedom. And there is virtually no racism in America against Koreans. No one bothers them. But she hates America. Wow!
She hates us and America so much because she has been given all the freedom she wanted but, since she is a woman, a Marxist-democrat and a socialist, she feels she must join the other socialists, Marxists, and radical democrats (most of that party) to tear down our society and rebuild it to their like. These hate-filled, angry, clueless, mostly white, ignorant inhabitants of our country are never going to quit or even abate their desire and actions to destroy our current way of life.
My Apple iPhone news feed (which is how I monitor MSM junk) just flashed that the Wisconsin Democrat Governor primary result was an ‘upset’
The real reason Hong lost is because no big name DSA members visited and campaigned for her. They realized how toxic her “Cancel Thanksgiving” message is. And she barely lost! One Bernie, AOC or Mamdani visit could have put her over the top! Insane times.
Even Bernie and AOC could smell the toxicity of this woman from a thousand miles away. No leaders want to stick their necks out and back an obvious loser.
Was she worse than "the Pillow Guy"?
Brian, you spoke too nicely of her!
Part of me thinks that this DSA thing peaked with Mamdani and is already losing steam. I’m probably wrong, but Hong losing and AES barely winning give me a sliver of hope.
It would seem that they are severely losing momentum – and that was the Demonic Sociopaths of America's biggest 'selling' point. But now sanity is taking hold and hopefully the left will just settle back to their regular level of crazy.
We should have known something was up when Bernie didn’t endorse Crazypants Hong.
I also think opposition to DSA within the Dem party has solidified…in other words, being DSA is disqualifying for many in a way it previously was not.
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The big story to me is why the polls were so far off. Not only in the case of the Hong race but in the el-Sayed race as well. Both races were very close while poll after poll had the DSA candidate up by double digits. It tells me that pollsters have far too many college educated white women in their samples and not enough working class black men.
This doesn't bode well for the general election for DSA candidates if black voters show up to vote.
The polls are rigged.
But the media still loves them. And the media still shapes the mob's thinking.
They're not rigged.
It's just a bunch of idiots doing polling who don't know how to do polling.
They've been around for 20 years...and still drawing paychecks doing polling where 89% of Americans surveyed agree that they are idiots.
This is exactly what is going on, IMHO. Structuring a question is critical for an accurate poll result. It's likely that these polls are being designed by leftist nitwits who can't keep their own opinions in check when they structure the questions.
Anyone can post a poll!
One reason is that today's pollsters have trouble finding enough people who want to participate in their polls.
And because the DSA supporters are the most fervent, committed voters out there, they are most likely to answer a pollsters call and participate in the poll.
The polls in Michigan and Wisconsin missed by 15-25% points for that reason. It will be interesting to see if Talarico in Texas is also benefiting from the same thing (although he's not a declared DSA, he's the next closest thing, policy wise).
I think this is right. The fanatical white, college-educated, DSA-supporting women are all too happy to tell everyone how they feel. The working class voters are not so eager to share their views. I think the strength of DSA candidates in areas that are not deep blue is over-estimated by quite a margin. Pollsters are going to have to adjust their likely voter models.
Yes, some polls are bad and are designed to produce a specific outcome but the average of polls has been a fairly reliable indicator of most races. Even in 2016 when everyone thought Hillary had it in the bag, the polls were actually pretty accurate. She was never as far ahead as she thought.
The lesser of two evils vote is still legitimate. Those folks who voted against Hong aren't waking up I'm afraid, they're still WOKE !
I suspect a lot of voters who'd previously planned on skipping the primary showed up to vote for anyone on the ballot not named Hong.
Possibly so.
But then look at the size(!) of Hong's defeat(?). And despair.
I think she was ahead and in last week or two the public learned more about her and rejected her
Polls from 3 weeks ago were probably accurate, but many voters changed their minds after seeing how crazy she really is
It is very simple. Activists are instructed to always talk to pollsters. It is part of their job as activists. Regular people do not want to talk to pollsters. So of course, the activists are over-represented in the samples, especially for primaries which tend to have low turnout.
It looks like a set back for the Demonic Sociopaths of America.
Remember that one of the primary methods of denial that National Socialism was socialism was that it was in conflict with other leftists.
Just like the left is now. Think about that when the Fascist Far Left starts hurling that falsehood in a few weeks.
Extremely well said!
I'll be right in the front row of seats. It's tragic, yet in a twisted sort of way, amusing.
Spenser Pratt would say that the Party decided against Hong and they counted votes accordingly.
True. The Dem Establishment controls the voting booth in most states. But the GenZ Left controls the polling, which is run by young people willing to canvas door to door or by phone. That polling was skewed ridiculously for Hong (20-25% advantage over Crowley) which means the polling was rigged to discourage the opponent's voters. That is a well-worn page in the Democratic Party playbook
That was my initial reaction. The establishment Dems must still control the vote manipulation machine in Wisconsin to the extent that they could come up with just barely enough votes to make sure she lost.
That is what happened, Tim. Don't anyone doubt it.
This is one of my favorite comments ever. 👍
And he would probably be correct.
Stupid liberal women are the biggest threat to your freedom in our history
Glasses...beware of short haired women with those glasses. Jk folks!
And the nose ring
Shit, forgot that! Is definitely part of the AWFL uniform...and blue, pink or purple hair up there and clothing that wouldn't attract any man, even at last call after shots of Cuervo all night long
An important element that needs to to be explained is the gross in accuracy of the pre-election poles both in Michigan and in Wisconsin. In both Michigan and in Wisconsin, the pre-election poles showed the DSA-type candidate winning by double digits. Double digits, but in Michigan El Syed barely won (not double digits – –by 1%) in Wisconsin the DSA candidate Hong lost. She had been comfortably ahead in the polls.
The polling in both cases was grossly wrong in favor of the DSA candidates. Doesn’t this raise serious questions about what is going on with the polling?
Black people don’t answer polls. Neither do most normal white people. This has been the case now for a very long time. I can’t tell you how many times I delete text polls around primary and especially general election season. And, pick up an actual phone cold call? Not happening.
"Neither do most normal white people." Exactly right. The extremes are loud and proud about their positions and their candidates. Just like the No Kings protests - those people wanted to be seen - it's important that their cohort notice their attendance/participation/advocacy.
The normie response is quietly at the ballot box.
Assuming (rather heroically) that the normies show up at the ballot box.
I have one sitting in my text inbox this morning that I just flagged as spam.
Although, you are correct.
I'm an abnormal white person.
Nice to have you,Mr. Raymond, in our exclusive club.
What is going on is two things. One, the usual polling outfits are biased and shape poll results to fit their agenda. Two, the Marxist-democrat-media complex makes the polls the story and amplifies the effect of the biased polls. Both of these methods are designed to sway the useful idiots' thinking they are going to win if they get to the polls and vote. It's been happening for the last 26 years. "Hillary has a 92% chance to win in '16!!!"
Gotta agree with you, the "bad guys" of the media are a bigger enemy of the people the idiots themselves.
Quite true. Goebbels would be proud of the Marxist-democrat-media complex.
Pollsters will say primaries are very difficult to poll because the turnout is so low. Less than 20% of registered voters cast a vote in WI.
"... her bid was being driven by the fanatical psychopaths coming soon to a ballot box near you." No, I live in the Free State of Florida, where GOP registrations are 1.5 million (yes, million) more than Dems. Liberals have been fleeing our state recently, to which we tell them, "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out"
Y'all are so polite, I'd say GTFO & never come back!
Lucky you !!
Hong did win. A late night Milwaukee ballot dump, complete with dubious USB vote tallies, stole it from her. That's how the Dems roll, they steal elections from other Dems in the primary the same way they steal elections from Republicans. Let's be clear about that.
I agree.
Anyone know where Hillary Clinton and Marc Elias were last night?
Be sure to watch the clip of Steve Kornacki hearing about it on MSNOW. He appears to be stunned and is completely silent.
Can you prove that?
If this belief takes hold among Wisconsin's DSA members, then they definitely won't vote for Crowley.
The fact that Hong almost won is shocking enough. That her opponent is considered to be a more "moderate", "establishment" type is even more shocking. His prescription for everything is more taxes and more wealth redistribution - more socialism, in other words, more cowbell. He wants to erase zoning laws to permit building huge apartment complexes in any neighborhood "by right — without special permits or neighborhood hearings". He wants to recruit private companies to implement government energy policy under the auspices of a brand new government bureaucracy to ensure compliance (which elsewhere in history has been called "fascism"). And that is the modern Democrat party's "pragmatic moderate".
Wisconsin typically disappoints Milwaukee Co. execs when they run for governor (E.g. Tom Barrett), and Crowley, a.k.a. "Dirt McGirk," is an undisciplined man with a poor record.
He flipping forgot to renew county employees' insurance.
Wisconsinites are no different from other voters when it comes to resenting the crime, cheating, and resource hogging of their state's blue shitholes. Nobody wants to hear from Dirt McGirk.
He may be as bad as Hong but doesn’t have the media exposure.
You are right. Winning a battle is not winning the war. To be honest, what scares me more is people voting for someone who is so obviously inauthentic. Same with Kamala. When did we loose our sense of discernment?
The fact that we are even dealing with the subject of socialism or communism is a problem.
It seems that capitalism has been good to them. They are making money hand over fist. The problem is that they have too much time on their hands.
And the ones that aren't making money are still supported by their parents, so they have time to engage in political activism.
That was a great 1981 song by the Styx:
‘And the fun never ends
That is as long as I'm buying
Is it any wonder I'm not the president
Is it any wonder I'm null and void
Is it any wonder I've got
(Too much time in my hands)
Tickin' away with insanity
I've got too much time on my hands‘
It’s too bad it‘s not just a song anymore.
Real problem is they are largely limousine liberals caught up in the Marxist movement.
Kind of like the George Floyd riots where 90% of the people were peacefully protesting but the other 10% used the 90% as a cover for their misdeeds. Communists and Marxists and Leninists and Fascists have been hiding under the Democrat Party banner for 1/2 a century and the media looks....sees mostly peaceful protestors...and shapes the narrative for America to misread.
"Mostly peaceful protesters" I still have a hard time believing that claptrap was accepted. Total media nonsense.......
Woke 1 was PC culture in the 90s. I refuse to use their language. They don't get to rebrand. Their woke stupidity remains the same, I don't care what they call it.
Thank God. Hong was really a mental case.
The GOP put money towards Hong winning because they thought she’d be the easiest to beat. Remember that. The HRC DNC put money towards Trump winning because they thought he’d be the easy one to beat…this game plan can backfire quickly for either party.
But Hong was such an obvious loser that even Crazy Bernie refused to support her.
She unfortunately didn’t lose by much, and all of the polling said she would win by a huge margin.
There have been references in the popular media anout the feminization of our culture. The rise of the DSA is more likely the dumbification of our culture. The COVID scamdemic is just another example. There was so much evidence against the wrongheaded mitigation efforts at “flattening the curve” and other nonsense but the dumbed down populace and medical profession refused to believe what “their lying eyes saw”. How much evidence do we need to convince us that socialism (now matter what new name you give it) DOES NOT WORK. Beam me up Scotty!
What is really scary to me is that most of my highly intelligent friends all fell for it and still are. They are the most educated ones, the ones that are better off. They all fell for it and still are! Those of us with common sense saw through it right away. It’s terrifying to me how many people are, even now, doubling down.