Or when movies challenged everybody by showing both sides of an issue equally? Of course I’m pretty old so that may not have happened in the past 30 years…
I think they started getting bad in the 70's. They were tiptoeing around their indoctrination in the 50's and 60's. There's old movies where you'll find the occasional leftist/Marxist/progressive comment or statement thrown in. Sometimes it's not so occasional!
I’m so tired of Hollywood! They just need to STFU! 3/4 of the so called entertainment and media sucks. Their selections for Oscars automatically tells one their political orientation anyway. None of that S*** was about creativity, innovation, and recognition of talent. It’s an annual circle jerk!
They actually do care now that their own money is at stake. My favorite own goal by Hollywood was how they would sneeringly dismiss legitimate criticism about their content by telling the critics that they weren't the intended audience. Then they seemed shocked when those same people took them at their word and no longer watched their movies and shows. Who could have known that insulting your customers was a bad idea?
Actually, the Oscars are good for the economy. You get to see just enough stupid, biased, redundant, WOKE/LGBTQRST+ asininities to know exactly which movies to not waste your time and money on...
Seriously, I couldn't give a damn what these people think. It's a symptom of their narcissism that they think people care about their personal opinions.
It's free use of their" platform". If they REALLY care, they could do it on their own time and spend their own money but apparently it's not THAT important to them.
I stopped watching most TV, movies and awards shows( including music) decades ago for several reasons but the biggest is the hubris. People that can't even manage their own lives under the best circumstances possible and are so UN self reflective they can see the hypocrisy they exist in and are so desperate for fame they supposedly subject themselves and others to all manner of depredation and abuse have nothing to say that I can take seriously.
I noticed that none of them said that they would not take advantage of the Trump tax cuts and, instead, pay their fair share and then some. When they do that, I might start to take them seriously....
There’s no line on the 1040 itself, as they don’t want to mix up liabilities owed and gifts. But you’d do that on Form 1040, Schedule 5 → “Gifts to Reduce the Public Debt”
or
IRS website: Pay.gov → “Gifts to Reduce the Public Debt”
This is the official channel for people who want to send the government extra money.
These people can have opinions, they can express their opinion. They can live their opinions out day and night 24-7 (lol that would involve having illegal immigrant actually living in their homes. Ewwwww!!!)
But they should recognize that they are their own brand. I canceled all my peloton crap when they started sending me adds telling me I am a worthless disgusting white person back during Covid. If a CEO of a company cheats on his or her spouse, or tells its customers to go F* themselves, well maybe fewer customers will exist.
Many fabulously rich Hollywood celebrities have proudly destroyed their brand. It doesn’t matter to them because most of these (Fonda, DiCaprio, Ruffalo) have zillions of dollars, multiple homes, jets, servants who fill their refrigerator, … but even more selfishly they are destroy the dreams of so many future actors and writers who aspire to be them.
If movies cost $170 million to make, and earn $70m in revenue, there will be now more movies, no more Ruffalos, not more DiCaprio’s, no more Fondas.
Their free speech, their platform, their utterly selfish and self-serving lives, their choice ..
And that’s why no one watches anymore. Just like the NFL when players were taking a knee. No one wants to be preached to when the venues are sports or entertainment.
That was it for me! Had only given the NFL one eye up to that point because the game/presentation had been declining for decades but that was it - no more!
Amazing what you can accomplish when you’re not staring @ a screen watching grown men in tight pants chase a silly ball around on a field.
No, it’s not free speech anymore. If it truly was, they would separate the politics from the acting and join a political action group. If they want a bully pulpit it should not be at the Oscar’s. But, again, when you are mouthing hive mentality and looking for a bonus from boss then that’s the platform for one giant circle jerk!
I haven't watched the Oscars in years. Ricky Gervais nailed it when he said Hollywood was irrelevant and that everyone is watching streaming movies instead.
Redgrave is a Marxist by her own admission. She portrayed Julia, the namesake of the movie "Julia". It was autobiographical. We can ignore her rantings. She has a screw loose. If anyone would like more detail on Redgrave, or doubts my assertion, here is an AI review of her life:
Yes, Vanessa Redgrave has been a long-term, public supporter of Trotskyist politics and a dedicated left-wing activist, though she has sometimes nuanced her specific party affiliation.
Political Affiliation: During the 1970s and 1980s, she was a prominent member of the Workers Revolutionary Party (WRP) in Britain, a far-left Trotskyist group, for which she ran for Parliament.
Political Views: She has described herself as a socialist and has been an outspoken advocate for workers' rights, Palestinian liberation, and against government surveillance.
Controversies: Her political activism frequently led to controversy, most famously during her 1978 Oscar acceptance speech, where she condemned "Zionist hoodlums". She later created a documentary, The Palestinian.
"Marxist Party": Following splits within the WRP in the mid-1980s, she and her colleagues formed a group often referred to as the Marxist Party.
Denial of "Communist" Label: In a 1971 interview, she stated, "I wouldn’t be Communist for the world. What I said in an interview three years ago was that if there was a decent Communist party I’d be in it. But there isn’t one”. This suggests a distinction between her adherence to Marxism/Trotskyism and mainstream Communist parties. (Brian: yet she happily played a Soviet Russian in the movie "Julia"; in life, she was long aligned with the Russian Communists in Britain and so must be against Ukraine; you never hear her defending Ukraine or Zelensky)
While she has faced criticism from various groups—including right-wing organizations, the Jewish Defense League, and other leftist groups—her dedication to far-left causes has been a consistent part of her public life alongside her acting career.
Not merely was the movie Julia not autobiographical, but there is good reason to believe that without crediting her source Lillian Hellman based the story on the life of Muriel Gardiner Buttinger.
"In 1983, New York psychiatrist Muriel Gardiner became involved in the libel suit between McCarthy and Hellman. She claimed to be the model for the character named Julia in Pentimento, and in the movie Julia based on a chapter of that book. Hellman, who never met Gardiner, said that "Julia" was somebody else.[8]
Gardiner wrote that, while she never met Hellman, she had often heard about her from her friend Wolf Schwabacher, who was Hellman's lawyer. By Gardiner's account, Schwabacher had visited Gardiner in Vienna. After Muriel Gardiner and Joseph Buttinger moved into their house at Brookdale Farm in Pennington, New Jersey in 1940, they divided the house in two. They rented half of it to Wolf and Ethel Schwabacher for more than ten years.[9]
Many people believe that Hellmann based her story on Gardiner's life. Gardiner's editor cited the unlikelihood that there were two millionaire American women who were medical students in Vienna in the late 1930s."
Imagine the horrified push back- and sudden break to commercial - if just one brave writer, producer, actor or director got up and praised Trump, or said good things about America? I'd watch that...
I will care about their political opinions when they care about mine.
Remember when the Oscars used to be about, you know, movies? What a society.
Or when movies challenged everybody by showing both sides of an issue equally? Of course I’m pretty old so that may not have happened in the past 30 years…
I would say it did happen in the past 30 years or so.
Things started to get bad around the mid 2000s-2010
Yes it had been going on for decades but I believe it became public and more forceful around the time Obama came around.
I think they started getting bad in the 70's. They were tiptoeing around their indoctrination in the 50's and 60's. There's old movies where you'll find the occasional leftist/Marxist/progressive comment or statement thrown in. Sometimes it's not so occasional!
I’m so tired of Hollywood! They just need to STFU! 3/4 of the so called entertainment and media sucks. Their selections for Oscars automatically tells one their political orientation anyway. None of that S*** was about creativity, innovation, and recognition of talent. It’s an annual circle jerk!
…or as George C. Scott dubbed it: “a BS popularity contest.”
They don’t care. We’re all just brainless rubes to them.
They actually do care now that their own money is at stake. My favorite own goal by Hollywood was how they would sneeringly dismiss legitimate criticism about their content by telling the critics that they weren't the intended audience. Then they seemed shocked when those same people took them at their word and no longer watched their movies and shows. Who could have known that insulting your customers was a bad idea?
When I win my Oscar I am going to rant against the capital gains tax!
Actually, the Oscars are good for the economy. You get to see just enough stupid, biased, redundant, WOKE/LGBTQRST+ asininities to know exactly which movies to not waste your time and money on...
Seriously, I couldn't give a damn what these people think. It's a symptom of their narcissism that they think people care about their personal opinions.
It's free use of their" platform". If they REALLY care, they could do it on their own time and spend their own money but apparently it's not THAT important to them.
I stopped watching most TV, movies and awards shows( including music) decades ago for several reasons but the biggest is the hubris. People that can't even manage their own lives under the best circumstances possible and are so UN self reflective they can see the hypocrisy they exist in and are so desperate for fame they supposedly subject themselves and others to all manner of depredation and abuse have nothing to say that I can take seriously.
I'm glad you escaped, Sasha 💗
I noticed that none of them said that they would not take advantage of the Trump tax cuts and, instead, pay their fair share and then some. When they do that, I might start to take them seriously....
They can always write a check to the treasury. Nobody is stopping them.
Correct, in fact, there's a line on their 1040 specifically for that purpose. But they won't.
There’s no line on the 1040 itself, as they don’t want to mix up liabilities owed and gifts. But you’d do that on Form 1040, Schedule 5 → “Gifts to Reduce the Public Debt”
or
IRS website: Pay.gov → “Gifts to Reduce the Public Debt”
This is the official channel for people who want to send the government extra money.
But yes, of course they would never.
Yes they could! But do they? NO!
These people can have opinions, they can express their opinion. They can live their opinions out day and night 24-7 (lol that would involve having illegal immigrant actually living in their homes. Ewwwww!!!)
But they should recognize that they are their own brand. I canceled all my peloton crap when they started sending me adds telling me I am a worthless disgusting white person back during Covid. If a CEO of a company cheats on his or her spouse, or tells its customers to go F* themselves, well maybe fewer customers will exist.
Many fabulously rich Hollywood celebrities have proudly destroyed their brand. It doesn’t matter to them because most of these (Fonda, DiCaprio, Ruffalo) have zillions of dollars, multiple homes, jets, servants who fill their refrigerator, … but even more selfishly they are destroy the dreams of so many future actors and writers who aspire to be them.
If movies cost $170 million to make, and earn $70m in revenue, there will be now more movies, no more Ruffalos, not more DiCaprio’s, no more Fondas.
Their free speech, their platform, their utterly selfish and self-serving lives, their choice ..
They push agendas that will have zero effect on themselves. They are the "rules for thee not for me" class.
Vanessa is as free to chide “Zionist hoodlums” as Paddy was to push back. It’s called free speech!
And that’s why no one watches anymore. Just like the NFL when players were taking a knee. No one wants to be preached to when the venues are sports or entertainment.
I agree, just because they have a famous name does not mean I care about their bullshit options.
Me too. The knee trick was divisive and over the top. Havent watched football since. Only the Super Bowl. But after this years half time , I'm done.
That was it for me! Had only given the NFL one eye up to that point because the game/presentation had been declining for decades but that was it - no more!
Amazing what you can accomplish when you’re not staring @ a screen watching grown men in tight pants chase a silly ball around on a field.
Yep. Hasn't anyone told them to just shut up and act? Let me be the first.
Yes she is. Wonder how she feels about Britain imprisoning people for tweets or other speech. Or how Kimmel, Bardem, et al feel about that.
They agree with it as long as their side defines what can be censored.
True fascists eh?
No, it’s not free speech anymore. If it truly was, they would separate the politics from the acting and join a political action group. If they want a bully pulpit it should not be at the Oscar’s. But, again, when you are mouthing hive mentality and looking for a bonus from boss then that’s the platform for one giant circle jerk!
What does free speech have to do with “separating politics from acting,” or anything for that matter? You have not thought this one through.
And we are free to give her the finger and shun her lunatic ass.
Does anyone remember Vanessa Redgrave was blaclklisted for years after she made that statement about Zionists? Oh, the irony.
I haven't watched the Oscars in years. Ricky Gervais nailed it when he said Hollywood was irrelevant and that everyone is watching streaming movies instead.
And that if they heard that ISIS was making a movie, they'd all be on the phone to their agents seeing if they could get a part.
Redgrave is a Marxist by her own admission. She portrayed Julia, the namesake of the movie "Julia". It was autobiographical. We can ignore her rantings. She has a screw loose. If anyone would like more detail on Redgrave, or doubts my assertion, here is an AI review of her life:
Yes, Vanessa Redgrave has been a long-term, public supporter of Trotskyist politics and a dedicated left-wing activist, though she has sometimes nuanced her specific party affiliation.
Political Affiliation: During the 1970s and 1980s, she was a prominent member of the Workers Revolutionary Party (WRP) in Britain, a far-left Trotskyist group, for which she ran for Parliament.
Political Views: She has described herself as a socialist and has been an outspoken advocate for workers' rights, Palestinian liberation, and against government surveillance.
Controversies: Her political activism frequently led to controversy, most famously during her 1978 Oscar acceptance speech, where she condemned "Zionist hoodlums". She later created a documentary, The Palestinian.
"Marxist Party": Following splits within the WRP in the mid-1980s, she and her colleagues formed a group often referred to as the Marxist Party.
Denial of "Communist" Label: In a 1971 interview, she stated, "I wouldn’t be Communist for the world. What I said in an interview three years ago was that if there was a decent Communist party I’d be in it. But there isn’t one”. This suggests a distinction between her adherence to Marxism/Trotskyism and mainstream Communist parties. (Brian: yet she happily played a Soviet Russian in the movie "Julia"; in life, she was long aligned with the Russian Communists in Britain and so must be against Ukraine; you never hear her defending Ukraine or Zelensky)
While she has faced criticism from various groups—including right-wing organizations, the Jewish Defense League, and other leftist groups—her dedication to far-left causes has been a consistent part of her public life alongside her acting career.
Julia was not autobiographical. In fact, it now accepted as fictional, although Hellman claimed it was true until her death.
Not merely was the movie Julia not autobiographical, but there is good reason to believe that without crediting her source Lillian Hellman based the story on the life of Muriel Gardiner Buttinger.
Please see the following from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_(1977_film):
"In 1983, New York psychiatrist Muriel Gardiner became involved in the libel suit between McCarthy and Hellman. She claimed to be the model for the character named Julia in Pentimento, and in the movie Julia based on a chapter of that book. Hellman, who never met Gardiner, said that "Julia" was somebody else.[8]
Gardiner wrote that, while she never met Hellman, she had often heard about her from her friend Wolf Schwabacher, who was Hellman's lawyer. By Gardiner's account, Schwabacher had visited Gardiner in Vienna. After Muriel Gardiner and Joseph Buttinger moved into their house at Brookdale Farm in Pennington, New Jersey in 1940, they divided the house in two. They rented half of it to Wolf and Ethel Schwabacher for more than ten years.[9]
Many people believe that Hellmann based her story on Gardiner's life. Gardiner's editor cited the unlikelihood that there were two millionaire American women who were medical students in Vienna in the late 1930s."
No one watches anymore. They’re operating in an echo chamber.
Imagine the horrified push back- and sudden break to commercial - if just one brave writer, producer, actor or director got up and praised Trump, or said good things about America? I'd watch that...
Didn't Redgrave's daughter die skiing into a tree?
Shows you should pay attention more to what actually affects your life. 😂