I will mourn the death of a great director who made some of the best movies in the late 80s/early 90s. Politics aside, Reiner was a great director. I mourn for his family and friends. RIP.
Yes, somehow Reiner found the humanity to direct great movies. His father Carl, was nothing like Rob, and was good all the way around, in business and in life, as far as I can tell. I don't know where Rob got his mean streak, but it is good to celebrate the good and not dwell on the negatives.
I agree its a mystery,,,all these talented people capable of such grace in art, yet really mean angry and violent,,,all justified by themselves and affirmed by the tribe..
I can only guess,,a loss of God. USA is Atheistic now...Look at all the public and school and so many places,,Universities. So the family unit is breaking.
In the North east last Christmas a son grown adult with a baby child killed his parents Christmas morning,,,then fled in a car to Pa...Sick,,,loss of civilization
That is just so sad, and this is something I'm keeping a close eye on as I get older - it appears that seniors (yes, I qualify and am allowed to say this) start to watch more and more TV news, which is just 110 proof rage fuel. I'm seeing it with older relatives, and it's like they've been invaded by a succubus.
I am disentangling from Twitter, and I gotta tell you, I feel better mentally. And thank God I have avoided TV news like the plague for going on 30 years.
As I become acutely aware that the mortality clock is ticking louder and louder, I do not want my last days wallowing in the muck.
I hear you. My spouse and I quit watching blue-state local news a couple decades ago and tapered off watching Fox News years before Tucker was fired (his firing made us turn off Fox News forever). We still watch a couple investment type shows on Fox Business that dabble into politics but we get off it when we can.
I think many people leave the news on all day as background noise, but if we want the TV left on, we usually have old series playing like Simpsons, Family Guy, Friends, Seinfeld, Sopranos, MTV Classic and similar.
We've found that stepping away from so much of this news is a necessity. Just don't need it when can read online that which is not meant to enrage.
As is now being increasingly discussed, Human beings weren't evolved to ingest nor respond to real-time news and gossip of a community larger than about 150.
I have watched so many of my older GenX and young Boomer friends and family get so wrapped up watching the news. I just can't stomach it anymore. It's all propaganda. I have cut down reading about politics online too. It's not worth stressing about things that are mostly out of my control.
Thank you for writing this, Sasha. I too, will NOT be celebrating his death. I may not have like him, his views, his opinions, or anything about the man... but No One deserves to be murdered like that. Or in any way.
Prayers for their friends, their family, and their community.
No one should celebrate the murder - or death - of anyone.
I doubt many on the right will do so, but I expect to see a lot of popup X accounts claiming to be "MAGA" and saying the most vile things. Such are the methods of the left.
Mr. Reiner was talented, but his hatred not just of Donald Trump and conservatism in general made him a sad and unattractive human being. Because hatred makes anyone ugly on the inside - and often on the outside as well.
May he finally find the peace that seemed to elude him here.
I truly hope no one does that like people did do so with Charlie Kirk’s death. I hope we all show grace that no one deserves to die like this and that we all pray for their family regardless.
I'll be honest. When I heard the news my very private response was not the best. But when I saw his decent response to the Charlie Kirk assassination, I saw he did actually have some decency. And I apologized to God for my thoughts.
Right. This brought to mine the apology I had to make to John Fetterman, for sympathizing with those who mocked him in the last election. Then he showed himself to be brave and principled. Don’t have to agree with him on everything to admire him. If the progs try to “primary” him, I will contribute to his campaign.
John Fetterman turns out to be the very best of us, better than many politicians on the right. That is because his first thought is for fellow humans and not his political ambitions
Great! If we had a bunch of Dems like him, and a bunch of Reps like Kennedy, we could trust them to compromise in the best interest of their constituents and the country. I see you’re a football fan. If you’re rooting against Texas Tech or Texas A&M, just don’t tell me.😊
Of course we wouldn't celebrate his death. Or the death of anyone. Only a microscopic soul would do such a thing. We won't (or shouldn't) even do a "yes but" thing about his politics.
Pick your favorite Reiner movie. Mine is "Princess Bride" which I watched about a dozen times with my sons when they were little. Now pick the worst way to go, and patricide has to be at the top of the list. So that is how I cannot help but remember him. He made a movie beloved by me and my sons, and was killed by his own son.
Karma..... Reiner had a mean streak for some unknown reason. I can say that because I read enough of his nasty posts. One wonders if he treated his son like he treated me (as part of the group he hated)
Peanut gallery view .. every person and situation is different. And Reiner did what worked for him in his professional and social community. And he got old .. I agree with much of what he spieled .. if this were 1979. (I still have Alabama relatives who won't vote for a Republican because .. they attacked and killed some of us in 1864.)
I would never celebrate someone's murder!! And I have sympathy for people caught up in this societal hate-fest. It's horrible. Sasha, no one illuminates this problem in our country better than you.
It’s a shame that, in many minds, Reiner will be remembered as a looney, deranged Trump hater rather than for his many achievements. Others still living, like De Niro, Streisand, O’Donnell and their ilk, have similarly allowed their hatred to render their talents irrelevant.
Haha...CatBallou. I still have the theme song in my head...from when I was 10. But otherwise, I am NEVER FONDA. Was told to watch COMING HOME with her and the great JonVoigt....but I just can't.
I'm with you. While I found his politics noxious, there's no denying that he was a brilliant director/producer/actor, and I grieve for his family. There is absolutely no reason to celebrate over a family being destroyed. RIP
And let's not forget that while he wasn't the world's greatest actor, his casting as Mike on All in the Family was invaluable to the success of one of TV's greatest sitcoms.
He was the progressive that gave Archie Bunker someone to argue with. Today I'm remembering the argument they had over the right way to put on shoes and socks.
These deaths are the saddest to me. To have someone you have loved, raised, supported & gone above & beyond to try to help kill you. It's much worse than being killed by someone who doesn't know you.
No one can feel good about the murder of the Reiners. Too many of us are struggling with drug-addicted children to take any pleasure in that. Maybe we can use this shared sense of suffering to bring us together , for once. And to seek ways to respond to and overcome the beast that is drug and alcohol addiction.
RIP, Meathead. I still feel a measure of affection for you and that long-ago role.
This. My colleague, who is a brilliant professional along with his wife, is dealing with an adult son who has similar issues to those that Nick Reiner allegedly grapples with, and I can't imagine the pain of living with this as a parent.
It’s sad that we’ve come to a day when you have to even recognize you wouldn’t celebrate someone’s death! There was a time when I don’t think death was ever celebrated. Except maybe for evil tyrants.
I will mourn the death of a great director who made some of the best movies in the late 80s/early 90s. Politics aside, Reiner was a great director. I mourn for his family and friends. RIP.
Well said. A tragedy is a tragedy no matter his politics. I may have to watch The Princess Bride tonite.
I need to do the same with When Harry Met Sally.
Yes, somehow Reiner found the humanity to direct great movies. His father Carl, was nothing like Rob, and was good all the way around, in business and in life, as far as I can tell. I don't know where Rob got his mean streak, but it is good to celebrate the good and not dwell on the negatives.
I agree its a mystery,,,all these talented people capable of such grace in art, yet really mean angry and violent,,,all justified by themselves and affirmed by the tribe..
I can only guess,,a loss of God. USA is Atheistic now...Look at all the public and school and so many places,,Universities. So the family unit is breaking.
In the North east last Christmas a son grown adult with a baby child killed his parents Christmas morning,,,then fled in a car to Pa...Sick,,,loss of civilization
...yes Dawn, this is what a Godless society evolves to. And its further evolving....
.....Reiner BECAME the liberal activist he portrayed on All IN THE FAMILY. He could not get out of character.
(...didnt JohnnyDepp become a 'pirate' after all his Caribbean films....?)
He did indeed.
Ditto. Murder is never to be celebrated or justified, NEVER. My prayers to fis surviving family and friends.
"All I could think was that there had to be a better way to live. Politics can’t take the best years from us."
That needs to be engraved somewhere large and prominent.
Indeed! I’m saving this quote!
So true. One of my relatives spent his days arguing on social media till the day he died from cancer.
That is just so sad, and this is something I'm keeping a close eye on as I get older - it appears that seniors (yes, I qualify and am allowed to say this) start to watch more and more TV news, which is just 110 proof rage fuel. I'm seeing it with older relatives, and it's like they've been invaded by a succubus.
I am disentangling from Twitter, and I gotta tell you, I feel better mentally. And thank God I have avoided TV news like the plague for going on 30 years.
As I become acutely aware that the mortality clock is ticking louder and louder, I do not want my last days wallowing in the muck.
I hear you. My spouse and I quit watching blue-state local news a couple decades ago and tapered off watching Fox News years before Tucker was fired (his firing made us turn off Fox News forever). We still watch a couple investment type shows on Fox Business that dabble into politics but we get off it when we can.
I think many people leave the news on all day as background noise, but if we want the TV left on, we usually have old series playing like Simpsons, Family Guy, Friends, Seinfeld, Sopranos, MTV Classic and similar.
We've found that stepping away from so much of this news is a necessity. Just don't need it when can read online that which is not meant to enrage.
As is now being increasingly discussed, Human beings weren't evolved to ingest nor respond to real-time news and gossip of a community larger than about 150.
Plus the younger generations probably blame us for everything they have been expecting in American life and not getting.
I have watched so many of my older GenX and young Boomer friends and family get so wrapped up watching the news. I just can't stomach it anymore. It's all propaganda. I have cut down reading about politics online too. It's not worth stressing about things that are mostly out of my control.
Thank you for writing this, Sasha. I too, will NOT be celebrating his death. I may not have like him, his views, his opinions, or anything about the man... but No One deserves to be murdered like that. Or in any way.
Prayers for their friends, their family, and their community.
Taking the high road. It’s a much better road to travel.
People who are optimistic and caring towards everyone else sleep better at night and are happier.
No one should celebrate the murder - or death - of anyone.
I doubt many on the right will do so, but I expect to see a lot of popup X accounts claiming to be "MAGA" and saying the most vile things. Such are the methods of the left.
Mr. Reiner was talented, but his hatred not just of Donald Trump and conservatism in general made him a sad and unattractive human being. Because hatred makes anyone ugly on the inside - and often on the outside as well.
May he finally find the peace that seemed to elude him here.
I truly hope no one does that like people did do so with Charlie Kirk’s death. I hope we all show grace that no one deserves to die like this and that we all pray for their family regardless.
Agree. Prayers for their family. Rest in Peace.
I'll be honest. When I heard the news my very private response was not the best. But when I saw his decent response to the Charlie Kirk assassination, I saw he did actually have some decency. And I apologized to God for my thoughts.
Right. This brought to mine the apology I had to make to John Fetterman, for sympathizing with those who mocked him in the last election. Then he showed himself to be brave and principled. Don’t have to agree with him on everything to admire him. If the progs try to “primary” him, I will contribute to his campaign.
John Fetterman turns out to be the very best of us, better than many politicians on the right. That is because his first thought is for fellow humans and not his political ambitions
He’s a good man.
He is an example of what kind of person might coax me to ever consider voting D again.
I plan to support him if he's primaried, too. He has integrity and principles, characteristics lacking in many politicians.
Great! If we had a bunch of Dems like him, and a bunch of Reps like Kennedy, we could trust them to compromise in the best interest of their constituents and the country. I see you’re a football fan. If you’re rooting against Texas Tech or Texas A&M, just don’t tell me.😊
Of course we wouldn't celebrate his death. Or the death of anyone. Only a microscopic soul would do such a thing. We won't (or shouldn't) even do a "yes but" thing about his politics.
Pick your favorite Reiner movie. Mine is "Princess Bride" which I watched about a dozen times with my sons when they were little. Now pick the worst way to go, and patricide has to be at the top of the list. So that is how I cannot help but remember him. He made a movie beloved by me and my sons, and was killed by his own son.
Karma..... Reiner had a mean streak for some unknown reason. I can say that because I read enough of his nasty posts. One wonders if he treated his son like he treated me (as part of the group he hated)
Peanut gallery view .. every person and situation is different. And Reiner did what worked for him in his professional and social community. And he got old .. I agree with much of what he spieled .. if this were 1979. (I still have Alabama relatives who won't vote for a Republican because .. they attacked and killed some of us in 1864.)
Speak for yourself. You haven't got a soul.
I would never celebrate someone's murder!! And I have sympathy for people caught up in this societal hate-fest. It's horrible. Sasha, no one illuminates this problem in our country better than you.
It’s a shame that, in many minds, Reiner will be remembered as a looney, deranged Trump hater rather than for his many achievements. Others still living, like De Niro, Streisand, O’Donnell and their ilk, have similarly allowed their hatred to render their talents irrelevant.
JT: I've had to apologize for loving "Cat Ballou" ever since Jane Fonda climbed on that damned Viet Cong tank.
It seems some people never learn. They'd rather spread hate than be loved.
Haha...CatBallou. I still have the theme song in my head...from when I was 10. But otherwise, I am NEVER FONDA. Was told to watch COMING HOME with her and the great JonVoigt....but I just can't.
Blast from the past, indeed. I loved “Cat Ballou” but my favorite in the movie was Lee Marvin.
Mine, as well!
Lee Marvin and Clint Eastwood both sang in the movie Paint Your Wagon. Ahhh....those were the Good Old Days when movies were fun and enjoyable!!
"On Golden Pond" was pretty good, too. But for my money, nothing beats "Barbarella"
I bet you're a fan of Ed Wood, as well!
And The Doll Maker. Excellent movie.
I'm with you. While I found his politics noxious, there's no denying that he was a brilliant director/producer/actor, and I grieve for his family. There is absolutely no reason to celebrate over a family being destroyed. RIP
And let's not forget that while he wasn't the world's greatest actor, his casting as Mike on All in the Family was invaluable to the success of one of TV's greatest sitcoms.
He was the progressive that gave Archie Bunker someone to argue with. Today I'm remembering the argument they had over the right way to put on shoes and socks.
Oh, that's funny! I had forgotten about that. One of my favorites was when he wanted Gloria to wear a black wig.
I remember that one too. Gloria claimed he was having an affair with the wig.😂
These deaths are the saddest to me. To have someone you have loved, raised, supported & gone above & beyond to try to help kill you. It's much worse than being killed by someone who doesn't know you.
The only thing worse than losing a child would be to have your last moment of life taken by your child. It's so sad all the way around.
I would still rather have my child kill me than to have him die before me.
No one can feel good about the murder of the Reiners. Too many of us are struggling with drug-addicted children to take any pleasure in that. Maybe we can use this shared sense of suffering to bring us together , for once. And to seek ways to respond to and overcome the beast that is drug and alcohol addiction.
RIP, Meathead. I still feel a measure of affection for you and that long-ago role.
This. My colleague, who is a brilliant professional along with his wife, is dealing with an adult son who has similar issues to those that Nick Reiner allegedly grapples with, and I can't imagine the pain of living with this as a parent.
It’s sad that we’ve come to a day when you have to even recognize you wouldn’t celebrate someone’s death! There was a time when I don’t think death was ever celebrated. Except maybe for evil tyrants.
I saw the headline and thought, "What? Why would anyone do that?"
You had forgotten to joyous dances on TikTok over the death of Charlie Kirk.
Nick Fuentes comes to mind
I’m thankful his great father did not live to hear this terrible news.
Amen.