Boy howdy, I spent far too much time yesterday arguing that point in what proved to be a frequency mismatch. It simply Did. Not. Compute. that Somebody Else's decision on "quality," no matter how well meaning, was censorship. We parted civilly, but I sure was frustrated -- and saddened.
BTW Tucker Carlson Network now has an app! You can easily watch his videos on that, even on your smart TVs. Works great too with FF, RW, and pause. Even 10sec increments if needed.
We just watched his first two tour vids in our TV tonight (Russell Brand, a d Vivek & RFKJr). They were really good. Can’t wait to watch Tulsi’s tomorrow.
You can watch it on your iPhone through the browser accessing it from TuckerCarlson.com. Click the three bars in upper left and select from the drop down “see all”. Then the videos are listed by most recent. There may be some here and there for subscribers only, but those are few. All the tour ones are available for sure.
You can also listen to the podcast versions through that same website on your phone too. Good luck! 😊
It’s not available on iPhone or Apple TV yet, but it is planned. You can find it on Amazon platforms and on Google Play I believe (it’s available for Android devices.) It’s also available on Roku. They plan to roll it out across all of the platforms but I think only one or two at a time.
Well I have a Fire TV and I searched the Apps to find it. It’s called TCN or Tucker Carlson Network
I searched for it a couple weeks ago and it wasn’t there. Then just two days ago when I searched it was.
I think it’s on Roku too now, thought I read another poster who was happy about that. It’s what made me search my Fire TV apps again
If your TV platform doesn’t have it, it will soon. I know it’s being rolled out to all of them.
Of course you can watch them for free on tuckercarlson.com from any browser. Tap the three bars in upper left, then on the drop down select “view all” and they are always listed most recent first. Most are available for free without a subscription, but occasionally one is only for subscribers.
I’ll be seeing Tucker and Megyn Kelly next week in KC. I’m really looking forward to it. Curious if he’ll broach the subject of this latest attempt to cancel him. That being said, we need to get away from the notion that allowing someone to speak means we must agree with everything they say. I don’t agree with everything Glenn Greenwald says but I continue to subscribe to his content. That’s adulting.
i hope you have a great time at their show! i heard her mention it when tucker was on her show just recently. i also agree with your comment of allowing someone to speak doesn't mean we have to agree with everything they say. in fact, i also have to wonder if maybe tucker didn't push back was because he mentioned [and admitted] on mk's show that he can easily get mean and he's trying not to do that, too?
Not really. I think Janis Joplin was one of the greatest singers of the 60’s. Doesn’t mean I approve of her drinking herself to death. I’ll be honest. I have not watched his interview with this guy yet. I will. I doubt it will cause me to cancel my subscription to TCN.
He has the right to be wrong. I'll listen and decide for myself how wrong I think he is. I think Glenn Greenwald's view of the Israel/Hamas war is wrong. I also think he is one of the best independent journalists out there.
GOP say Democrats are wrong all levels as well I am not trying to cancel Tucker but his views on history is fucked up if he thinks that is the greatest historian ever.
I would offer for consideration the concept that those who hate 'hate speech', hate speech itself. And while it is upsetting to listen to the Illiterate, Innumerate and Incogitant, the 3 'I's, I must remind myself that I was once illiterate, (unable to fully understand what I was reading) innumerate (unable to measure and analyze reality) and incogitant (unable to reason clearly and consistently), and only by continually listening and learning can I hope to evolve from human to humane. So I need Freedom of Speech. It allows me to spot the idiots and not become one. More importantly, I need Freedom to Hear, to read, to listen. To that end, if anyone wants to cancel you Sasha, I volunteer to buy their subscription so I can gift it to someone of my choosing who could use it. If each of us, in these times of very tight discretionary income, could find the financial courage to buyout just one 'cancel culturist' we will cure the Cancer of the cancel culture. We can beat 'Cancel'.
Just out of curiosity, how do you decide which ones to post? I’m super “you do you” and not judging. But this feels very much like the free speech debate. It’s either all or nothing. One of the best things about you is that you post these videos and allow us the opportunity as grown people to decide if we click them or not.
Agreed. I would prefer that the links be provided with a reminder that we're all adults, and posting said links doesn't declare an agreement with the content.
Just how do people know they disagree with another’s views if they refuse to listen to those views? I trust Tucker to put controversial, thought-provoking views in front of us; that doesn’t mean I agree or disagree with him or his guests. Say what ;you will about the interview with Cooper, it has sparked calls from de-platforming (i.e., cancel culture censorship) to meaningful refuting by people like Niall Ferguson and Victor Hanson Davis. Cooper’s ideas are stupid – so what!
Anyone who cancels their subscription with you for sharing broad perspectives like Tucker is so insecure as to be pitties. Thank you for facing down yet another mob.
I was appalled that Tucker didn't call out that Holocaust denier, but I have been a fan of Tucker Carlson since he was on CNN years ago. I'm also a free speech absolutist. So good call Sasha Stone.
Daniel, what specifically did you hear that makes you think Daryl Cooper is a Holocaust denier? I’ve listened to him and never have I heard him deny the Holocaust occurred. Stop spewing propaganda. Or, share your evidence?
My problems with the Tucker/Cooper interview are twofold.
1. I think that a situation such as Tucker's provides him a sensational opportunity to call out frauds and lunatics. Respect for a guest is one thing, and you can call somewhat out while remaining above the temptation to get mean, but I'm disturbed by Tucker's vacuousness of knowledge on the topic. He's a bright guy, obviously, and just as obviously, has read a lot. The fact that he could be enthralled by an unconcealed wackjob such as Cooper and not challenge him shocks me. If someone as bright and public spirited as Tucker Carlson can be as oblivious as he is to the facts in this matter, how likely is it that younger people, with nothing like the advantages he's had and often with rotten disadvantages because of the breaking up of society and the dwindling of economic opportunities, will be secured against falling for appeals to anti - Semitism? There's something in the naturally diseased souls of human beings which looks for scapegoats, and da Joooozzz have always been a prime target for this.
If you want to know just how perverted Cooper's view of history is, go to The Washington Free Beacon, and read Andrew Roberts' concise article.
2. The second thing which bothers me is why now?! As if the Trump/Vance ticket needs to be pasted with this! I'll be shocked if Trump gets through the debate on Tuesday without being asked about it.
Tucker is not like MSM. He just let's people talk so listeners can form their own opinion. While I knew enough Russian history to not be surprised by Putin's lecture, I suspect it was news to a lot of people.
Yes, I understand, but a big part of journalism is not just giving a platform for unfashionable people, it's questioning them carefully. I think it's not Cooper who upsets people, it's that Carlson gave him no pushback. I, who was born in 1952 and was becoming aware of life only slightly later than people were becoming aware of The Holocaust, have always had an awareness of it. I knew two, possibly three, survivors. There's far more evidence that The Holocaust happened than that The Spanish American War took place.
I have been horrified to see all the Jew haters coming out into the open in the last year. It's not an idiosyncratic thing. It's rife with spiritual implications, all of them scary.
I have little patience for two hour videos so I am going by what others have said. There appears to be dissent as to whether the guy actually was a Holocaust denier or just anti-Churchill. The latter point of view is held by many especially Irish, Israeli and Indian people whose grievances against Churchill have little to do with this topic. Holocaust denial is pretty fringe at least in the non-Muslim world. Perhaps my age is betraying me here as I am old enough to have met Holocaust survivors. I interpret the current surge of antisemitism as the product of people who just hate Jews. That is the root cause of the Holocaust. Hitler was a maniac but millions participated and I don't mean just Germans. It was pan-European. Ukrainians and Latvians were major auxiliary forces for the Einsatzgruppen and the death camps were largely staffed by Ukrainians. But really only the Danes and Bulgarians behaved honorably as nations. Many individuals were decent as the Israeli award which I think translates as Righteous of the Nations attests. With the passage of time many just don't give a sh*t. It seems that even the Israeli opposition has forgotten the meaning of Never Again.
And I think you're exactly right: the instinctive hatred of Jews precedes any attempt to find a coherent explanation of history in which Jewish villainy is seen as the primary evil in the world.
He's a contrarian, and I do wonder if such unusual people might be wired so differently from most of the rest of us that they honorably reach conclusions which the rest of us find incomprehensible. If this were 2000, I'd shrug Cooper off, but in 2000, I was forty - eight, and never had it occur to me that I would see any significant anti - Semitism in my lifetime.
Surprised me about the US but not Europe. Even without all the Muslims, the ancient hatred runs deep even after almost all the Jews have been killed or fled to Isreal or the US. You could see it start back in the 90s among blacks but it didn't really explore until the 2020s.
Bobby, if you are going to throw around name calling like ‘fraud’ and ‘lunatic’ please do cite evidence from that persons mouth why you describe them that way. Otherwise doesn’t that lessen your voice?
Matt, the best I can do is urge you to go to The Washington Free Beacon article by Andrew Roberts, and read it.
Anyone who blames Churchill for the vastness of World War II and says he thinks Churchill was a psychopath doesn't really need any denunciation, or didn't used to. Maybe we have become - young people have become - so deprived of knowledge, they do need to be educated. Really, Matt, the Andrew Roberts article, which might take you ten minutes to read, does a fine job of it as regards this matter.
Briefly, England went to war with Germany because its treaty with Poland obligated it to do so in case Poland were attacked, as indeed it was, by the Germans, on September 1, 1939. And millions of Russians didn't perish because the German High Command hadn't realized the numbers of people their invasion of Russia would disgorge, so "the Germans threw them into concentration camps and a lot of them died." That was what the Wehrmacht had planned for them.
Cooper seems not to have read "Mein Kampf," which was published circa 1925. In it, Hitler told the world what his plans were.
Cooper repeats the Nazi trope that "Churchill dragged the US into the war", when in fact it was Germany which declared war on the US on December 11, in fulfillment of its treaty obligations under the Axis Pact between Germany, Italy, Japan, and Romania. The only unilateral declaration of war by the US was against Romania, in 1942.
Yes, steam. But tell me how does this POV by Cooper RE: Churchill make him a Holocaust denier? The whataboutism on this by those who long ago recognize the MSM propaganda is flipping astounding.
It's not like Churchill was philo-semetic. The Jewish revolt that eventually led to Israeli independence started during his time in office because of the actions of his administration. Look up Lord Moyne.
Little know fact. Look it up. Churchill put German & Italian nationalist in England into work-concentration camps when WW2 broke out. And many of them were Jews. They remained there for the duration of the war. Do I fault Churchill for that? Nope. When Cooper points this out does it make him a Holocaust denier? Again, no. Heck, it was the English Empire that invented the concentration camp (see Boer War).
Cooper has a very specific reason (IMO) for reexamining WW2 w/ more critical/objective eye. Critical thinkers will grasp this. And that reason is because the myth/tropes that came out of WW2 are being used today by neocons (and for last 80 years) to justify ‘forever wars’. Think back at how many times people opposed to foreign wars are accused of being a ‘Chamberlain’ or the opposition being the ‘Axis of Evil’ (I.e. a ‘Hitler’). There’s plenty of voices supporting Ukraine war citing if we don’t, Putin will go after more EU nations (domino theory) which also has its origins in WW2 (Sunderland, Poland, etc)
Actually you can refer back to Aleksandr Dugin's 1997 work, Foundations of Geopolitics, to see the plan that Putin is following to the letter - even incorporating Dugin's rhetoric in his own speeches:
"On the key question of Ukraine, Dugin underlines: "Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning. It has no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness" (377). "Ukraine as an independent state with certain territorial ambitions," he warns, "represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics" (348).... Dugin speculates that three extreme western regions of Ukraine--Volynia, Galicia, and Trans- Carpathia--heavily populated with Uniates and other Catholics, could be permitted to form an independent "Western Ukrainian Federation." But this area must not under any circumstances be permitted to fall under Atlanticist control (382). With the exception of these three western regions, Ukraine, like Belorussia, is seen as an integral part of Eurasia-Russia." https://tec.fsi.stanford.edu/docs/aleksandr-dugins-foundations-geopolitics
As for the US: "Within the United States itself, there is a need for the Russian special services and their allies "to provoke all forms of instability and separatism within the borders of the United States (it is possible to make use of the political forces of Afro-American racists)" (248). "It is especially important," Dugin adds, "to introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements-- extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics" (367)." Ibid. Pretty prescient, seeing how that was written 27 years ago...
Thanks stream. Why do you suppose the USA didn’t implement a ‘Marshall like’ financial plan in Russia following the dissolution of the USSR in 1989? You may have caught Jeffery Sachs essay/talk on this on Taibbi’s stack. The idea being floated is that the USA neocons did not want the $ Cold War to end. If accurate, and a Marshall plan had been implemented would Putin have even taken power? This subject predates Dugan, going back about 33 to 34 years….
The British definitely had their role in this - in 1916, the British Foreign Office, in what ended up being a successful effort to bring about the end of the Ottoman Empire, an ally of Germany, promised Hussain Ali, the Protector of Mecca and Medina, who was a prominent Pan-Arab nationalist of the time, lands in what was known then as Palestine, for the establishment of a Pan-Arab state. Hussain Ali took the bait, the Ottoman Empire fell, and Ali encouraged Arab migration to the area. Of course, the Foreign Office did not help, since the British had no intention of holding up their end of the bargain. In 1919, the British Government was suffering from the effects of the war debt for World War I, so they promised the *same land* to Lord Rothschild and the Zionist Movement for the creation of a homeland for the Jewish people, in exchange for Rothschild money - which they got. Again, the British had no intention of holding up their end of the deal, but Jewish people began to emigrate to what was by then the British Mandate. So the troubles in the area were born out of British duplicity. The British interceded in favor of one side or the other in the ensuing years, but withdrew in 1947 due to their effective bankruptcy post-World War II, and washed their hands of the matter, handing it over to the UN - and the rest is familiar history. And Churchill was out of power in 1947-48, having lost his post as PM in 1945 - he only regained it briefly in 1955.
British duplicity continued past 1919. First, they sided with the Arabs. Then when the Arab revolt gathered steam and especially after 1939 when the Arabs were proNazi, switched to the Jews. Orde Wingate, a British officer is considered one of the founders of the IDF. Then once the crisis was over, it was back to the Arabs with the British helping with the plan to overrun Israel. The last battle of the War of Independence was between Israel and the UK. Then a brief return to the Jews during the Suez war.
Perfidious Albion indeed. I am of the opinion that the UK should be made to pay for rebuilding Gaza if the war ever ends.
True but incomplete. Churchill did indeed scheme to get the US involved using his relationship with FDR who was predisposed anyway. That doesn't make Churchill evil and it certainly doesn't make Hitler good.
Thank you for leaving it up to each person to decide for themselves if they want to hear the Tucker interviews or not. I may not always agree with what Tucker or his guest, but I rather know what other people are thinking over keeping my head in the sand. If we can’t have reasonable dialogue, we close off our thoughts to the potential for growth and decency.
After listening to Victor Davis Hanson's recent podcast, I'm guessing he would be happy to appear on Tucker and provide a rebuttal to Cooper. Given Tucker's long-term relationship with VDH, it's difficult to imagine that Tucker wouldn't be open to hearing VDH's side.
Bravo for not caving to the chickenshits & Karen’s.
Hell yeah Sasha 🔥🔥
"Better speech always defeats bad speech".
Who makes the decisions on what's "better" and "bad" speech?
👉FREE SPEECH always defeats CENSORSHIP.
Word.
Boy howdy, I spent far too much time yesterday arguing that point in what proved to be a frequency mismatch. It simply Did. Not. Compute. that Somebody Else's decision on "quality," no matter how well meaning, was censorship. We parted civilly, but I sure was frustrated -- and saddened.
BTW Tucker Carlson Network now has an app! You can easily watch his videos on that, even on your smart TVs. Works great too with FF, RW, and pause. Even 10sec increments if needed.
We just watched his first two tour vids in our TV tonight (Russell Brand, a d Vivek & RFKJr). They were really good. Can’t wait to watch Tulsi’s tomorrow.
I just tried to find that App on my iPhone and it is not listed. Looks like they are censoring what we can listen to!
You can watch it on your iPhone through the browser accessing it from TuckerCarlson.com. Click the three bars in upper left and select from the drop down “see all”. Then the videos are listed by most recent. There may be some here and there for subscribers only, but those are few. All the tour ones are available for sure.
You can also listen to the podcast versions through that same website on your phone too. Good luck! 😊
It’s not available on iPhone or Apple TV yet, but it is planned. You can find it on Amazon platforms and on Google Play I believe (it’s available for Android devices.) It’s also available on Roku. They plan to roll it out across all of the platforms but I think only one or two at a time.
Where can I find the app? I just looked & I don ‘t see it?
And this is Roku
https://channelstore.roku.com/en-gb/details/f153ff41a42f4fad99d97ed6b2013292/tucker-carlson-network
And this is android version I believe
https://www.appbrain.com/app/tucker-carlson-network/com.tuckercarlson.tv
Link to Amazon’s
https://www.amazon.com/TCN-Tucker-Carlson-Network/dp/B0D5S3KBBX
Well I have a Fire TV and I searched the Apps to find it. It’s called TCN or Tucker Carlson Network
I searched for it a couple weeks ago and it wasn’t there. Then just two days ago when I searched it was.
I think it’s on Roku too now, thought I read another poster who was happy about that. It’s what made me search my Fire TV apps again
If your TV platform doesn’t have it, it will soon. I know it’s being rolled out to all of them.
Of course you can watch them for free on tuckercarlson.com from any browser. Tap the three bars in upper left, then on the drop down select “view all” and they are always listed most recent first. Most are available for free without a subscription, but occasionally one is only for subscribers.
You can also listen to them on podcasts at https://tuckercarlson.com/listen
I bet Apple Podcasts has them too. But I don’t see the app in their AppStore yet. AppleTV is supposed to get it eventually.
I hope you find the app!
I’ll be seeing Tucker and Megyn Kelly next week in KC. I’m really looking forward to it. Curious if he’ll broach the subject of this latest attempt to cancel him. That being said, we need to get away from the notion that allowing someone to speak means we must agree with everything they say. I don’t agree with everything Glenn Greenwald says but I continue to subscribe to his content. That’s adulting.
i hope you have a great time at their show! i heard her mention it when tucker was on her show just recently. i also agree with your comment of allowing someone to speak doesn't mean we have to agree with everything they say. in fact, i also have to wonder if maybe tucker didn't push back was because he mentioned [and admitted] on mk's show that he can easily get mean and he's trying not to do that, too?
but anyway, have a great time next week!!!! :)
I'm sure I will!
I will be there too!
But here is the thing when he labels a person the best historian ever pretty much says he agrees with almost everything he does say.
Not really. I think Janis Joplin was one of the greatest singers of the 60’s. Doesn’t mean I approve of her drinking herself to death. I’ll be honest. I have not watched his interview with this guy yet. I will. I doubt it will cause me to cancel my subscription to TCN.
When you say she is the best singer you basically agree most of her music is great saying greatest historian means the same thing.
So what? If he's wrong, he's wrong. TC has tons of ppl on. Just listen, and then use ur head.
He has the right to be wrong. I'll listen and decide for myself how wrong I think he is. I think Glenn Greenwald's view of the Israel/Hamas war is wrong. I also think he is one of the best independent journalists out there.
GOP say Democrats are wrong all levels as well I am not trying to cancel Tucker but his views on history is fucked up if he thinks that is the greatest historian ever.
Keep up the great work. don’t mind the empty vessels who want to change what you do 😊
I would offer for consideration the concept that those who hate 'hate speech', hate speech itself. And while it is upsetting to listen to the Illiterate, Innumerate and Incogitant, the 3 'I's, I must remind myself that I was once illiterate, (unable to fully understand what I was reading) innumerate (unable to measure and analyze reality) and incogitant (unable to reason clearly and consistently), and only by continually listening and learning can I hope to evolve from human to humane. So I need Freedom of Speech. It allows me to spot the idiots and not become one. More importantly, I need Freedom to Hear, to read, to listen. To that end, if anyone wants to cancel you Sasha, I volunteer to buy their subscription so I can gift it to someone of my choosing who could use it. If each of us, in these times of very tight discretionary income, could find the financial courage to buyout just one 'cancel culturist' we will cure the Cancer of the cancel culture. We can beat 'Cancel'.
Just out of curiosity, how do you decide which ones to post? I’m super “you do you” and not judging. But this feels very much like the free speech debate. It’s either all or nothing. One of the best things about you is that you post these videos and allow us the opportunity as grown people to decide if we click them or not.
Agreed. I would prefer that the links be provided with a reminder that we're all adults, and posting said links doesn't declare an agreement with the content.
Nobody denied the holocaust in the episode I saw.
Just how do people know they disagree with another’s views if they refuse to listen to those views? I trust Tucker to put controversial, thought-provoking views in front of us; that doesn’t mean I agree or disagree with him or his guests. Say what ;you will about the interview with Cooper, it has sparked calls from de-platforming (i.e., cancel culture censorship) to meaningful refuting by people like Niall Ferguson and Victor Hanson Davis. Cooper’s ideas are stupid – so what!
Anyone who cancels their subscription with you for sharing broad perspectives like Tucker is so insecure as to be pitties. Thank you for facing down yet another mob.
"Let truth and falsehood grapple. Whoever knew truth put to the worse in a free and open encounter." --John Milton 1644
Thanks Sasha!
I was appalled that Tucker didn't call out that Holocaust denier, but I have been a fan of Tucker Carlson since he was on CNN years ago. I'm also a free speech absolutist. So good call Sasha Stone.
We already had way too much censorship during the covid bioweapon.
Daniel, what specifically did you hear that makes you think Daryl Cooper is a Holocaust denier? I’ve listened to him and never have I heard him deny the Holocaust occurred. Stop spewing propaganda. Or, share your evidence?
My problems with the Tucker/Cooper interview are twofold.
1. I think that a situation such as Tucker's provides him a sensational opportunity to call out frauds and lunatics. Respect for a guest is one thing, and you can call somewhat out while remaining above the temptation to get mean, but I'm disturbed by Tucker's vacuousness of knowledge on the topic. He's a bright guy, obviously, and just as obviously, has read a lot. The fact that he could be enthralled by an unconcealed wackjob such as Cooper and not challenge him shocks me. If someone as bright and public spirited as Tucker Carlson can be as oblivious as he is to the facts in this matter, how likely is it that younger people, with nothing like the advantages he's had and often with rotten disadvantages because of the breaking up of society and the dwindling of economic opportunities, will be secured against falling for appeals to anti - Semitism? There's something in the naturally diseased souls of human beings which looks for scapegoats, and da Joooozzz have always been a prime target for this.
If you want to know just how perverted Cooper's view of history is, go to The Washington Free Beacon, and read Andrew Roberts' concise article.
2. The second thing which bothers me is why now?! As if the Trump/Vance ticket needs to be pasted with this! I'll be shocked if Trump gets through the debate on Tuesday without being asked about it.
Tucker is not like MSM. He just let's people talk so listeners can form their own opinion. While I knew enough Russian history to not be surprised by Putin's lecture, I suspect it was news to a lot of people.
Yes, I understand, but a big part of journalism is not just giving a platform for unfashionable people, it's questioning them carefully. I think it's not Cooper who upsets people, it's that Carlson gave him no pushback. I, who was born in 1952 and was becoming aware of life only slightly later than people were becoming aware of The Holocaust, have always had an awareness of it. I knew two, possibly three, survivors. There's far more evidence that The Holocaust happened than that The Spanish American War took place.
I have been horrified to see all the Jew haters coming out into the open in the last year. It's not an idiosyncratic thing. It's rife with spiritual implications, all of them scary.
I have little patience for two hour videos so I am going by what others have said. There appears to be dissent as to whether the guy actually was a Holocaust denier or just anti-Churchill. The latter point of view is held by many especially Irish, Israeli and Indian people whose grievances against Churchill have little to do with this topic. Holocaust denial is pretty fringe at least in the non-Muslim world. Perhaps my age is betraying me here as I am old enough to have met Holocaust survivors. I interpret the current surge of antisemitism as the product of people who just hate Jews. That is the root cause of the Holocaust. Hitler was a maniac but millions participated and I don't mean just Germans. It was pan-European. Ukrainians and Latvians were major auxiliary forces for the Einsatzgruppen and the death camps were largely staffed by Ukrainians. But really only the Danes and Bulgarians behaved honorably as nations. Many individuals were decent as the Israeli award which I think translates as Righteous of the Nations attests. With the passage of time many just don't give a sh*t. It seems that even the Israeli opposition has forgotten the meaning of Never Again.
And I think you're exactly right: the instinctive hatred of Jews precedes any attempt to find a coherent explanation of history in which Jewish villainy is seen as the primary evil in the world.
He's a contrarian, and I do wonder if such unusual people might be wired so differently from most of the rest of us that they honorably reach conclusions which the rest of us find incomprehensible. If this were 2000, I'd shrug Cooper off, but in 2000, I was forty - eight, and never had it occur to me that I would see any significant anti - Semitism in my lifetime.
Surprised me about the US but not Europe. Even without all the Muslims, the ancient hatred runs deep even after almost all the Jews have been killed or fled to Isreal or the US. You could see it start back in the 90s among blacks but it didn't really explore until the 2020s.
Bobby, if you are going to throw around name calling like ‘fraud’ and ‘lunatic’ please do cite evidence from that persons mouth why you describe them that way. Otherwise doesn’t that lessen your voice?
Matt, the best I can do is urge you to go to The Washington Free Beacon article by Andrew Roberts, and read it.
Anyone who blames Churchill for the vastness of World War II and says he thinks Churchill was a psychopath doesn't really need any denunciation, or didn't used to. Maybe we have become - young people have become - so deprived of knowledge, they do need to be educated. Really, Matt, the Andrew Roberts article, which might take you ten minutes to read, does a fine job of it as regards this matter.
Briefly, England went to war with Germany because its treaty with Poland obligated it to do so in case Poland were attacked, as indeed it was, by the Germans, on September 1, 1939. And millions of Russians didn't perish because the German High Command hadn't realized the numbers of people their invasion of Russia would disgorge, so "the Germans threw them into concentration camps and a lot of them died." That was what the Wehrmacht had planned for them.
Cooper seems not to have read "Mein Kampf," which was published circa 1925. In it, Hitler told the world what his plans were.
Sometimes we need to choose our battles wisely and/or the Lord closes our mouths.
Cooper repeats the Nazi trope that "Churchill dragged the US into the war", when in fact it was Germany which declared war on the US on December 11, in fulfillment of its treaty obligations under the Axis Pact between Germany, Italy, Japan, and Romania. The only unilateral declaration of war by the US was against Romania, in 1942.
Yes, steam. But tell me how does this POV by Cooper RE: Churchill make him a Holocaust denier? The whataboutism on this by those who long ago recognize the MSM propaganda is flipping astounding.
It's not like Churchill was philo-semetic. The Jewish revolt that eventually led to Israeli independence started during his time in office because of the actions of his administration. Look up Lord Moyne.
Little know fact. Look it up. Churchill put German & Italian nationalist in England into work-concentration camps when WW2 broke out. And many of them were Jews. They remained there for the duration of the war. Do I fault Churchill for that? Nope. When Cooper points this out does it make him a Holocaust denier? Again, no. Heck, it was the English Empire that invented the concentration camp (see Boer War).
Cooper has a very specific reason (IMO) for reexamining WW2 w/ more critical/objective eye. Critical thinkers will grasp this. And that reason is because the myth/tropes that came out of WW2 are being used today by neocons (and for last 80 years) to justify ‘forever wars’. Think back at how many times people opposed to foreign wars are accused of being a ‘Chamberlain’ or the opposition being the ‘Axis of Evil’ (I.e. a ‘Hitler’). There’s plenty of voices supporting Ukraine war citing if we don’t, Putin will go after more EU nations (domino theory) which also has its origins in WW2 (Sunderland, Poland, etc)
Actually you can refer back to Aleksandr Dugin's 1997 work, Foundations of Geopolitics, to see the plan that Putin is following to the letter - even incorporating Dugin's rhetoric in his own speeches:
"On the key question of Ukraine, Dugin underlines: "Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning. It has no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness" (377). "Ukraine as an independent state with certain territorial ambitions," he warns, "represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics" (348).... Dugin speculates that three extreme western regions of Ukraine--Volynia, Galicia, and Trans- Carpathia--heavily populated with Uniates and other Catholics, could be permitted to form an independent "Western Ukrainian Federation." But this area must not under any circumstances be permitted to fall under Atlanticist control (382). With the exception of these three western regions, Ukraine, like Belorussia, is seen as an integral part of Eurasia-Russia." https://tec.fsi.stanford.edu/docs/aleksandr-dugins-foundations-geopolitics
As for the US: "Within the United States itself, there is a need for the Russian special services and their allies "to provoke all forms of instability and separatism within the borders of the United States (it is possible to make use of the political forces of Afro-American racists)" (248). "It is especially important," Dugin adds, "to introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements-- extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics" (367)." Ibid. Pretty prescient, seeing how that was written 27 years ago...
Thanks stream. Why do you suppose the USA didn’t implement a ‘Marshall like’ financial plan in Russia following the dissolution of the USSR in 1989? You may have caught Jeffery Sachs essay/talk on this on Taibbi’s stack. The idea being floated is that the USA neocons did not want the $ Cold War to end. If accurate, and a Marshall plan had been implemented would Putin have even taken power? This subject predates Dugan, going back about 33 to 34 years….
The British definitely had their role in this - in 1916, the British Foreign Office, in what ended up being a successful effort to bring about the end of the Ottoman Empire, an ally of Germany, promised Hussain Ali, the Protector of Mecca and Medina, who was a prominent Pan-Arab nationalist of the time, lands in what was known then as Palestine, for the establishment of a Pan-Arab state. Hussain Ali took the bait, the Ottoman Empire fell, and Ali encouraged Arab migration to the area. Of course, the Foreign Office did not help, since the British had no intention of holding up their end of the bargain. In 1919, the British Government was suffering from the effects of the war debt for World War I, so they promised the *same land* to Lord Rothschild and the Zionist Movement for the creation of a homeland for the Jewish people, in exchange for Rothschild money - which they got. Again, the British had no intention of holding up their end of the deal, but Jewish people began to emigrate to what was by then the British Mandate. So the troubles in the area were born out of British duplicity. The British interceded in favor of one side or the other in the ensuing years, but withdrew in 1947 due to their effective bankruptcy post-World War II, and washed their hands of the matter, handing it over to the UN - and the rest is familiar history. And Churchill was out of power in 1947-48, having lost his post as PM in 1945 - he only regained it briefly in 1955.
British duplicity continued past 1919. First, they sided with the Arabs. Then when the Arab revolt gathered steam and especially after 1939 when the Arabs were proNazi, switched to the Jews. Orde Wingate, a British officer is considered one of the founders of the IDF. Then once the crisis was over, it was back to the Arabs with the British helping with the plan to overrun Israel. The last battle of the War of Independence was between Israel and the UK. Then a brief return to the Jews during the Suez war.
Perfidious Albion indeed. I am of the opinion that the UK should be made to pay for rebuilding Gaza if the war ever ends.
That bit doesn't do that, obviously.
True but incomplete. Churchill did indeed scheme to get the US involved using his relationship with FDR who was predisposed anyway. That doesn't make Churchill evil and it certainly doesn't make Hitler good.
The Tucker live at Anaheim with Vivek and RFK was amazing. The focus was on free speech. I saw it with my daughter.
Dershowitz: 'I Am No Longer a Democrat'
https://hotair.com/headlines/2024/09/06/dershowitz-i-am-no-longer-a-democrat-n3794172
Thank you, Sasha, for the videos. I watch every one of them!!!
Thank you for leaving it up to each person to decide for themselves if they want to hear the Tucker interviews or not. I may not always agree with what Tucker or his guest, but I rather know what other people are thinking over keeping my head in the sand. If we can’t have reasonable dialogue, we close off our thoughts to the potential for growth and decency.
After listening to Victor Davis Hanson's recent podcast, I'm guessing he would be happy to appear on Tucker and provide a rebuttal to Cooper. Given Tucker's long-term relationship with VDH, it's difficult to imagine that Tucker wouldn't be open to hearing VDH's side.
We need to hear all of it, the bad, the insults, the lies, the condemnation, all of it. Otherwise we don't know where the baddies are.
My son and I saw Tulsi and Tucker last night, live in Colorado Springs. It was AMAZING how many people there were.
Lots of happy, good looking people I might add.