Trump speaks at 7pm pacific. He originally gave Iran 60 days to negotiate. That passed. He recently said he would decide sometime within 2 weeks - not after 2 weeks. He also said that the attack plans had been approved but not yet given the go ahead. He’s been pretty transparent without giving away the details.
What happens next is what has us concerned, Dena. And Trump can’t control that. If US servicemen start dying (especially those stationed in Iraq) you are gonna see a portion of MAGA throwing shade on Israel.
We are at war with Islam. Not Iran. Islam is run by madmen Mullahs. There are sleeper cells. They will be activated either now or two years from now. If it happens to be now the error is not bombing Iran, it was allowing radical Imams to teach hate in America and Canada and England, etc.
I do not believe this to be true he is not cold and calloused. He did not want this. You could see it in his face you could hear it when he spoke tonight.
Islam is at war with everyone who is not Islam. It's in their texts, teachings, speeches. They're also allowed to lie to further their conquests. I know and work with some lovely people who claim to be Muslims, so I hope they don't practice what their religion preaches.
Omg Islam is the second largest religion in the world- in its billions across the planet. Are you going to attack everyone and every country because Muslims are everywhere you bigoted idiot
Nobody can control what happens next - but I trust Trump & his advisors have thought it through. Including the risk at home due to sleeper cells. I read that Iran had 3% enrichment during Obama term. Now up to 60%. I agree with Trump - Iran can’t have nuclear capability. Bad for not only Israel but the world.
If they retaliate then we take out their refineries and oil storage sites and power generating stations. Of course if it's a token retaliation to save face like they did with off target missiles in Iraq, then we do not respond.
The attack was approved by who? There’s an international security council law that he has ignored
Israel has also stretched the definition of of “self defence”
“This is explicitly about preventing an alleged, threatened, future attack by Iran with a nuclear weapon that, according to all publicly available information, Iran does not currently possess.
This is not the first time Israel has advanced a broad interpretation of self-defence”.
Have fun you Trumpsters while all the so called “economic savings” through those absurd tariffs get swallowed up in a new Middle East War.
I didn’t say they were run by a security council. Put your glasses on. But there is NATO, but also the UN which has an organ called the SECURITY COUNCIL of which the USA is signed up member
Again there is no one that tells the US what we can do or not. Again, A totally ignorant comment. The Security Council of the UN doesn’t tell the US what to do.
Oh my, aren't we bitter with TDS... Stop hyperventilating. What's your solution? Sending them a plane load of cash on pallets, like Obama and Biden? Trump is cleaning up your guys' mess, Thank God.
"According to all public information, Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon."
Yeah, until they use one. And the truth will be realized, suddenly.
Israel also has nuclear weapons so using your logic they should also be attacked by every surrounding country because who knows when they’re going to “use them”
52 years as a Evangelical Christian, and I and my friends (people I hang with) have always been Zionists. If by Zionists you mean a supporter of Israel.
Thomas Getman is president of a private consulting group that specializes in international, United Nations and Non Governmental Organization affairs and university seminars and workshops on UN Reform and humanitarian interagency partnership building. He was World Vision’s executive director for international relations with tenure until March 1, 2009. In this role, he managed World Vision’s liaison activities with the UN and the World Council of Churches and was responsible for diplomatic relations with UN government member missions in Geneva and with countries on sensitive tax, staff and protocol negotiations.
He served until 2009 on the board of principals for the UN Deputy Secretary General for Emergency Relief in the UN Office of the Coordinator of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) and as chair of a premier NGO consortium the International Council of Voluntary Agencies (ICVA).
From 1997 to 2001, Getman was director of World Vision’s programs in Jerusalem, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip where he was responsible for a staff of 30 and $5-8 million a year in relief and development projects in Palestine, Israel, Jordan, and advocacy for peace with justice.
Just admit that you are unable and/or unwilling to read, understand, comprehend, and engage with the ideas he presents. Not everyone can handle intellectual discourse, and the only shame is in denying it.
That may be the case, Steve. But why did the USA have to be dragged into this? Israel has commandos…
I also remember ‘No New Wars’. And if this turns into a wider war then say goodbye to MAGA, and say hello to Kamala (or a similar stand in) in the next cycle.
What leads to to believe t will turn into a wider war? Iran has no friends in the area, Russia, Well they're busy with other things, The PRC is NOT gong to go to war over Iran.
Have you never heard of the PMF, Steve? It’s a standing army in Iraq that is loyal to Al Khamenei. They have already targeted US troops in Iraq/Syria during the past week w/ drones. Will that now be ramped up, along with some Iranian missiles?
We had to stop this evil beast before he struck Israel or America, just as we should have stopped Hitler and Stalin. What partt of that is so tough to get?
You would have been pissed off had we stopped Hitler in 1936....nothing dehumanizing about that. Don't you understand Iran is run by extreme religious zealot terrorists that torture and murder their own people for any reason they want? How do you live with yourself defending them?
I hear you but how can we truly believe they were actually close to getting nuclear weapons? I smell WMD’s all over again. The neocons have wanted war with Iran for a long long time (remember Axis of Evil?), s as nd now they might finally get their wish…
IAEA pretty much said they have the material for one already, they just haven't assembled the components yet. And now they pretty much can't if our strikes were totally successful. We shall see.
By all accounts, Iran did keep their end. Trump's only evidence is "because i say so". Even the lies used to justify the War On Iraq were better than that.
It seems that Trump has a superpower. Going about his business of being President, he gets the Democrats to oppose everything he does in TDS lockstep. Just because, "Orange Man Bad."
As a result, the Democrats are taking the losing side of a LOT of 80/20 issues. Keep it up, Whigs!
US House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries blasts President Donald Trump for authorizing the strike against Iran, saying he “failed to seek congressional authorization for the use of military force and risks American entanglement in a potentially disastrous war in the Middle East.
“Donald Trump promised to bring peace to the Middle East. He has failed to deliver on that promise. The risk of war has now dramatically increased, and I pray for the safety of our troops in the region who have been put in harm’s way,” Jeffries says in a statement, adding that Trump “misled the country about his intentions.”
Israel started this war. They also ethnically cleanse and starve little kids so I really don't see why American kids in the Middle East should die for a Nazi supremacist country like Israel.
Hamas has control of the "humanitarian aid" that goes into Gaza. In WWI, when the British blockade was starving Germany, should the British have started sending "humanitarian aid? During the American Civil War, when the American army was using starvation as a weapon of war (As God is my witness, I'll never be hungry again!"), should the American army have started sending "humanitarian aid"? It doesn't make sense for the left hand to be undoing what the right hand is doing. Starvation has always been a weapon of war. Ask any siege ...
You assume facts not in evidence. Moreover, the last time Iran invaded anyone was in the 1790s, when the country was still called "Persia". Contrast the entirely peaceful track record of the United States since that time.
Peaceful like when they took over our Embassy and American hostages in 1979? Or supported terrorist groups that killed over 200 marines in a barrack in Lebanon? Funding and supplying Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthi's terrorist acts?
If you're going to discuss the Embassy and hostages do some serious reading about modern Iran and start after the 2nd world war. Mossadegh was a fascinating individual and had British intelligence and the CIA not overthrown him Iran would have had a very different future. You see he had the crazy idea that Iran's oil wealth should be for Iranians. Like the 241 Marines killed (along with about 60 French soldiers) events are connected to other events and are not isolated. Hamas and Hezbollah have interesting histories and I hope you do some deep reading. The surface stuff is exceptionally boring because it's all propaganda but digging is interesting. Take care.
Sorry to have to repeat myself, but your memory is hella selective:
Wait, I thought the pretext was nuclear proliferation? Now you're digging up 40 year old beefs.
Anyway, the US shot down an Iranian airliner in the 1980s. The Israelis attacked the USS Liberty. The Saudis sponsored 9/11. The United States attacked Iraq on the basis of lies.
Wait, I thought the pretext was nuclear proliferation? Now you're digging up 40 year old beefs.
Anyway, the US shot down an Iranian airliner in the 1980s. The Israelis attacked the USS Liberty. The Saudis sponsored 9/11. The United States attacked Iraq on the basis of lies.
Trump speaking now, w/ Vance, Rubio and Hegseth at his side. Vance may not have been down with this, but he’s gotta go along. Is that why Vance has a blue tie on, but the rest have red? 🤣
The problem with Iran - - and any real foe - - is that they’re happy to accept your diplomacy so that they can continue building their armed forces in relative peace.
I think it is important to differentiate between the rulers and the people or a nation. And to avoid global generalizations. It is my understanding that the Iranian theocracy is not that popular—but I’m not an expert—I just read Foreign Affairs
And, yeah, that old Marshall Plan. What a bust. Germany, Japan, Italy—still our sworn enemies.
No one knows where we would be if Trump hadn’t withdrawn from the treaty. But I favor the imperfections of diplomacy over one individual inserting my beloved country into a war without consultation at all time when our citizens were in no immediate danger. Now about 40,000 of them are in danger.
Let’s see how far Iran really was in developing a nuclear weapon. Remember the no nukes found in Afghanistan? How did that work for us? So much for the President of Peace.
A thoughtful reply, indeed. But diplomats themselves know things about those with whom they negotiate and may not say those things aloud at the table. With China, for example, long experience tells us that China’s promises not to steal intellectual property are ridiculous. We weight such promises appropriately in negotiations.
Similarly, we expect the same from Iran with respect to weapons production. They pretend to make promises; we pretend to believe them. Incompetents, though, such as those acting on behalf of Obama, did believe them. Thus leading us to the current engagement.
I don’t see anyone saying that! Please, no all-or-nothing generalizations. I, at least, am only saying that this was an impulsive move without appropriate authorization when the US was not in imminent danger. We are now combatants in the on-going war in the Middle East. Yes, we have armed and trained Israel. But now we are participants. I’m old enough to remember and to have lost loved ones in Vietnam. And certainly many here can remember the “shock and awe” of Afghanistan. So much for your Peace President.
By that logic we should also start a war with North Korea- cause they actually do have nuclear weapons - not just the ‘possibility of nuclear weapons’.
North Korea, China, and Russia have not made their state policy “Death to America, Death to Israel.” Iran has, for decades. They meant it. Israel has done 80% of the work. There was an opportunity. We shall see whether Iran wants more of what they’ve recently received.
I'm a boomer and I'm not happy. Most MAGA boomers aren't for war because a lot of us personally saw what happens during a war because we were serving in the military during Vietnam. So take your snide little comment and shove it.
He's likely looking at the polls. The boomers are the only group with a clear majority in support of all this. However it's around 2/3 or 3/5 if I recall correctly, so it's reasonable that among your own group of people you interact with, you'd see a majority against. There's certainly room in there for pockets of dissent against the group average.
They have already been killing US servicemen. Their capacity to continue doing so may or may not be diminished. But the prospect of their doing so while innoculating themselves from reprisal with a nuclear shield is now a pipe dream.
The Zionists got the war they wanted and now get to send American Christian teen males to their death while fighting for Israel. Too bad the warmongers here don’t go or send their kids. Must be nice to get your war and not be at risk of fighting in it. All of you who said Trump wouldn’t get us in this war should publicly apologize here and now for pushing Zionist misinformation.
I am anti-war and anti-genocide; that Zionists committed genocide in Gaza in 2025 and started a war with Iran, necessarily drives me to criticize them.
I thought someone who’s ancestors were from Donegal would have a greater appreciation of the need to object to engaging in foreign wars and also you make my point that American Christians will be the biggest combat casualties by noting your kid (presumably a Christian with Donegal ancestors based on surname of O’Donnell) served in a combat role. Jay (above) makes my point also by saying his nephew a Christian, serves.
You post comments screaming about Zionists. Now you analyze someone’s blood lines based on their name. You expect us to believe your only motivation is hatred of war.
Amazing they don’t see that the mullahs would enthusiastically do to Catholics exactly what they do to Jews. Sometimes “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” is a grave miscalculation.
I object to genocide. That Zionists are guilty of genocide and delight in killing children is not my fault. Just block me and move on. And don’t bother lying that Israel isn’t guilty of genocide in Gaza; the entire world has seen it and objectively documented it. Please do block me; you’re getting boring.
Well, notwithstanding that when in Donegal I Heard "welcome home" a lot, I am a genetic mongrel. I got the apostrophe but few of the genes. Beyond that, you make a lot of assumptions, without basis.
That’s not very helpful. Only feeding straight into the hate rhetoric on Boomers, doing Marx’s job for him, separating the generations, families, all for a political ideology of much better control and taking no blame and zero responsibility for one’s own choices. Boomers got screwed over too mate.
My comment is tongue in cheek. I’m suggesting that it’s Boomers who are controlling our foreign policy, and I don’t agree with this foreign policy decision…
I’m Gen X, I’ll take my generation who are now in our 50’s and not alphabet retarded. I can probably still disassemble and assemble an M-60 blindfolded, just gotta watch that the butt stock spring doesn’t fly into the bush. Used to do that as part of shooting competitions when in Army ;)
My husband, a “Boomer” (if we must separate the generations in groups 🙄) marched in the Moratorium marches in Sydney covered in chicken blood to protest the Vietnam war, here in Australia. He burnt his draft card. Took off for the bush with others. Then, he fought the courts for months to stay out of that unjust and undeclared war, also on religious convictions. He won his case, the first ever successful conscientious objector to that war, while others, some well known rotted in gaol. He received white feathers in the mail and the ire of his family, but he stuck to his “guns”. We also, for many years supported the Returned Soldiers League and my brother, a scientist gave lectures to Americans on the horrific results of the agent orange bombs on so many western soldiers, their wives and deformed children.
The recent protests don’t have near half as much gusto as the generation previous.
This group is gonna be activated to kill American soldiers in Iraq and / or Syria. Then by doing so, help drag us into a war. I hope I’m wrong and I have to eat my words. This sucks. What kind of dirty shit (Epstein?) do they have in Trump?
Even though the biggest group of all, Hezbollah, has been sitting on its butt in Lebanon for 9 days without lifting a finger against Israel because they know how that ended the last time.
No, I was thinking he might have wondered where Hamas and Hezbollah got all those rockets and missiles. I don't think you have to speak Farsi to notice they had a bunch of those with Farsi instruction manuals.
The useless and ineffective JCPOA? Fools were fooling themselves into believing that deal was something other than a bunch of shuck and jive. Lots of talk and back slapping.
Slowing a train wreck isn't stopping a train wreck. They were allowed to continue enriching uranium and gave the run around to IAEA and its inspectors. "The IAEA last week criticised Iran's "general lack of co-operation" and said it had enough uranium enriched to 60% purity, near weapons grade, to potentially make nine nuclear bombs." Only fools would continue to believe they could stop radical Islamic fundamentals from achieving exactly what they've been screaming for and acting on for decades: "Death to Israel and death to America".
"The IAEA last week criticised Iran's "general lack of co-operation" and said it had enough uranium enriched to 60% purity, near weapons grade, to potentially make nine nuclear bombs." How did Iran get to 60% enrichment? They sidestepped the JCPOA and hamstrung IAEA inspection has they had always intended.
Facts and science don't matter. This is impenetrable bubble like Iran's nuclear enrichment facility buried deep under a mountain. It'll take some kind of a massive payload to break through.
They were on their way to that, all along. Do you REALLY think that they stopped their nuclear enrichment when the agreement was signed, and would have stopped pursuing nuclear weapons, if the agreement had stayed in place? Huh?
Trump terminated it because they violated it, and the agreement was unverifiable and unenforceable.
Just yesterday, Trump enforced the prior agreement.
After finally leaving the Dems and voting for a Republican because, among other things, he was against starting wars I realized I was duped again - just another president answering to Israel. Never underestimate the stupidity of those who advocate for war. In my lifetime they have never been right - once! What a mess.
When Harold Macmillan, UK Prime Minister from 1957 to 1963, was asked what was the greatest challenge for a statesman, he replied: "Events, dear boy, events". It's easy for politicians to make promises to the voters about what they intend to do (and not do) when they get into office, but once elected their carefully crafted but untested policy agendas often fail to withstand a confrontation with harsh reality. I'm reminded of that old joke: "If you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans".
I am anti-war and anti-genocide; that Zionists committed genocide in Gaza in 2025 and started a war with Iran, necessarily drives me to criticize them.
You're only anti-war because Israel is better at it than your favorite sponsors of terrorism. You're only anti-genocide because it's not Jews being wiped out.
If world conflicts were decided by playing Tiddlywinks and Israel was better at it than the nations trying to destroy it, you'd be anti-Tiddlywinks.
Several congressmen (and women) have called this strike on Iran unconstitutional and think that The President should be impeached. Part of their argument seems to be that he failed to consult them. But given that the democratic members of congress all throughout 2017-2021 and the current term have shown no interest in compromising on practically every issue, why would he talk to them about anything, much less this? By being completely hostile, the democratic members of congress have forfeited any roll they could have had in developing US policy.
Yes, thank you. The first of my substack subscriptions to hit my inbox with the news. I am sorry to hear it but I am going to trust our President to have made the most informed decision possible.
I think prayers are more helpful than immediately throwing a tantrum when you don’t have the facts.🙏
No. Biden is corrupt and mentally incompetent since sometime during the Obama administration. Don’t forget Barry’s warning “never underestimate Joe’s ability to fuck things up.”
However, I did hold back my hysterical trolling over his handling of the Afghanistan withdrawal until the smoke began to clear. I suggest you find a paper bag to blow into and go for a walk.
Trump speaks at 7pm pacific. He originally gave Iran 60 days to negotiate. That passed. He recently said he would decide sometime within 2 weeks - not after 2 weeks. He also said that the attack plans had been approved but not yet given the go ahead. He’s been pretty transparent without giving away the details.
No leaks.
What happens next is what has us concerned, Dena. And Trump can’t control that. If US servicemen start dying (especially those stationed in Iraq) you are gonna see a portion of MAGA throwing shade on Israel.
We are at war with Islam. Not Iran. Islam is run by madmen Mullahs. There are sleeper cells. They will be activated either now or two years from now. If it happens to be now the error is not bombing Iran, it was allowing radical Imams to teach hate in America and Canada and England, etc.
I agree. There are no doubt Muslim terrorist sleeper cells here bc of the STUPID open border. I'm sure Trump won't sleep tonight.
I do not believe this to be true he is not cold and calloused. He did not want this. You could see it in his face you could hear it when he spoke tonight.
Islam is at war with everyone who is not Islam. It's in their texts, teachings, speeches. They're also allowed to lie to further their conquests. I know and work with some lovely people who claim to be Muslims, so I hope they don't practice what their religion preaches.
Omg Islam is the second largest religion in the world- in its billions across the planet. Are you going to attack everyone and every country because Muslims are everywhere you bigoted idiot
No, just the ones whose leaders publicy say "Death to America", and then start building nuclear weapons.
Who says “we” are at war with Islam? I certainly don’t. Take that stuff to Israel.
You might even think that’s true, but Islam IS at war with you. Just read the Koran, it’s all there.
Nobody can control what happens next - but I trust Trump & his advisors have thought it through. Including the risk at home due to sleeper cells. I read that Iran had 3% enrichment during Obama term. Now up to 60%. I agree with Trump - Iran can’t have nuclear capability. Bad for not only Israel but the world.
If they retaliate then we take out their refineries and oil storage sites and power generating stations. Of course if it's a token retaliation to save face like they did with off target missiles in Iraq, then we do not respond.
Yes, JCPOA was capped at 4%.
The attack was approved by who? There’s an international security council law that he has ignored
Israel has also stretched the definition of of “self defence”
“This is explicitly about preventing an alleged, threatened, future attack by Iran with a nuclear weapon that, according to all publicly available information, Iran does not currently possess.
This is not the first time Israel has advanced a broad interpretation of self-defence”.
Have fun you Trumpsters while all the so called “economic savings” through those absurd tariffs get swallowed up in a new Middle East War.
The US is not run by an international security council. What an idiotic comment that shows complete ignorance of how things actually work.
I didn’t say they were run by a security council. Put your glasses on. But there is NATO, but also the UN which has an organ called the SECURITY COUNCIL of which the USA is signed up member
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Again there is no one that tells the US what we can do or not. Again, A totally ignorant comment. The Security Council of the UN doesn’t tell the US what to do.
Again, you're an ignorant fool. And a moron,
Why don’t you put that in all caps? NO ONE TELLS US WHAT TO DO!!!
ha ha!!! You’re so triggered. lol 😂
He just saved millions of lives, probably your sorry life as well. A thank you from you would do.
How can you kill and save at the same time?
Really? Read anything about Dwight D. Eisenhower, or Presidents Roosevelt & Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, & Nixon. Shall I go on?
Oh my, aren't we bitter with TDS... Stop hyperventilating. What's your solution? Sending them a plane load of cash on pallets, like Obama and Biden? Trump is cleaning up your guys' mess, Thank God.
"According to all public information, Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon."
Yeah, until they use one. And the truth will be realized, suddenly.
Israel also has nuclear weapons so using your logic they should also be attacked by every surrounding country because who knows when they’re going to “use them”
There are lots of countries who have nuclear weapons, silly.
But Iran was the only one threatening to use them.
WAKE UP!
When was it threatening to use them? Quote please? You Trump supporters are children just like him. You’re not serious people
Yeah, but Biden is as sharp as a tack🙄
You obviously haven't read a newspaper or listened to the news since 1978.
Run along, I think there's a protest today, somewhere...
I'm 71. The Middle East has been a complicated issue for as long as I've been alive. Here's what I know for sure: Jack shit.
I'm afraid this is all for naught...
A Washington, D.C. judge has ordered the B-2's back to the U.S., forbidding them to drop their bombs on Iran.
Stay tuned for further developments...
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I found this to be quite informative: "When and How Did Evangelicals Become Zionists?"
https://www.wrmea.org/2018-may/when-and-how-did-evangelicals-become-zionists.html
52 years as a Evangelical Christian, and I and my friends (people I hang with) have always been Zionists. If by Zionists you mean a supporter of Israel.
Google can be Useful
Tom Getman Sojourners
https://sojo.net/biography/tom-getman
Thomas Getman is president of a private consulting group that specializes in international, United Nations and Non Governmental Organization affairs and university seminars and workshops on UN Reform and humanitarian interagency partnership building. He was World Vision’s executive director for international relations with tenure until March 1, 2009. In this role, he managed World Vision’s liaison activities with the UN and the World Council of Churches and was responsible for diplomatic relations with UN government member missions in Geneva and with countries on sensitive tax, staff and protocol negotiations.
He served until 2009 on the board of principals for the UN Deputy Secretary General for Emergency Relief in the UN Office of the Coordinator of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) and as chair of a premier NGO consortium the International Council of Voluntary Agencies (ICVA).
From 1997 to 2001, Getman was director of World Vision’s programs in Jerusalem, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip where he was responsible for a staff of 30 and $5-8 million a year in relief and development projects in Palestine, Israel, Jordan, and advocacy for peace with justice.
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You'll pardon me if I don't take him seriously.
Just admit that you are unable and/or unwilling to read, understand, comprehend, and engage with the ideas he presents. Not everyone can handle intellectual discourse, and the only shame is in denying it.
People, What Part Of "Iran Cannot Have Nuclear Weapons." don't you understand?
That may be the case, Steve. But why did the USA have to be dragged into this? Israel has commandos…
I also remember ‘No New Wars’. And if this turns into a wider war then say goodbye to MAGA, and say hello to Kamala (or a similar stand in) in the next cycle.
What leads to to believe t will turn into a wider war? Iran has no friends in the area, Russia, Well they're busy with other things, The PRC is NOT gong to go to war over Iran.
Have you never heard of the PMF, Steve? It’s a standing army in Iraq that is loyal to Al Khamenei. They have already targeted US troops in Iraq/Syria during the past week w/ drones. Will that now be ramped up, along with some Iranian missiles?
Yes I Have. THAT is not a Wider War.
What is “THAT” you refer to? Do you have some intel on PMF capabilities to share?
When Americans die it tends to draw a military response…
Iran could also close the Strait of Hormuz.
What will Iran do in response? They must reply, the ‘Strong Horse’ tribal culture of ME demands it.
And Just what have they done in the last week?
This isn't a new war, it's the conclusion of an old war.
Is it over though? Or did we just coax the fire brighter again?
We had to stop this evil beast before he struck Israel or America, just as we should have stopped Hitler and Stalin. What partt of that is so tough to get?
"But, but, Orange Man BAD."
Some people will automatically oppose anything Trump does.
"Death to America!"
US Preps Iran Strike
https://youtu.be/RKXyrnsfOUc?t=824
Thx Steve. Doesn’t need to be a successful war, just a continuous one.
It will be a continuous one if those beasts want one......they may even live to regret it.
The ‘dehumanization’ echo is strong in you currently, 234 🤷
You would have been pissed off had we stopped Hitler in 1936....nothing dehumanizing about that. Don't you understand Iran is run by extreme religious zealot terrorists that torture and murder their own people for any reason they want? How do you live with yourself defending them?
You hate Trump THAT much?
It's not going to be a continuous one. The objective has already been accomplished.
I hear you but how can we truly believe they were actually close to getting nuclear weapons? I smell WMD’s all over again. The neocons have wanted war with Iran for a long long time (remember Axis of Evil?), s as nd now they might finally get their wish…
Hmm, why build a deep underground facility then?
IAEA pretty much said they have the material for one already, they just haven't assembled the components yet. And now they pretty much can't if our strikes were totally successful. We shall see.
Believe what you want to believe, as I believe you are deeply inflicted with TDS.
So, why terminate the JCPOA, then?
This is a pretext, nothing more.
Why? Because Iran won't keep their end of the agreement.
By all accounts, Iran did keep their end. Trump's only evidence is "because i say so". Even the lies used to justify the War On Iraq were better than that.
When the regime continues to say "Death to America," we should listen. They've proven to everyone that they're serious.
Yours is definitely a feral argument.
"Sticks and stones..." ever ask *why* the US is hated in Iran? Think we never did anything to them?
The good Shia Muslims are just following their good book, infidel.
The 80/20 Democratic conundrum. The Democrats now have to defend Iran.
It seems that Trump has a superpower. Going about his business of being President, he gets the Democrats to oppose everything he does in TDS lockstep. Just because, "Orange Man Bad."
As a result, the Democrats are taking the losing side of a LOT of 80/20 issues. Keep it up, Whigs!
They might as well, it’s not like they didn’t install this regime back in the 70s under Carter.
Wanna Bet?
Senior Democrat blasts Trump for not seeking congressional authorization for Iran strike
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/senior-democrat-blasts-trump-for-not-seeking-congressional-authorization-for-iran-strike/
US House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries blasts President Donald Trump for authorizing the strike against Iran, saying he “failed to seek congressional authorization for the use of military force and risks American entanglement in a potentially disastrous war in the Middle East.
“Donald Trump promised to bring peace to the Middle East. He has failed to deliver on that promise. The risk of war has now dramatically increased, and I pray for the safety of our troops in the region who have been put in harm’s way,” Jeffries says in a statement, adding that Trump “misled the country about his intentions.”
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Obama-lite 😂😂😂
This is going to lead to retaliation which will kill US servicemen. I hope you boomer warhawks are happy.
So, applying your reasoning, it would have been better for Israel to let Iran get nukes rather than see around 25 Israelis killed? Really?
Israel started this war. They also ethnically cleanse and starve little kids so I really don't see why American kids in the Middle East should die for a Nazi supremacist country like Israel.
I agree. It’s all Israel’s fault. I was really hoping Muslim fanatics would get their hands on some nuclear bombs.
I see your sarcasm. No point in arguing with anti-semites, they're irrational with hatred.
Have you forgotten Oct. 7 already, princess?
I could care less since I'm not a Jewish supremacist nor Israeli. If you're into the Sig Heil stuff that's your problem.
Hamas has control of the "humanitarian aid" that goes into Gaza. In WWI, when the British blockade was starving Germany, should the British have started sending "humanitarian aid? During the American Civil War, when the American army was using starvation as a weapon of war (As God is my witness, I'll never be hungry again!"), should the American army have started sending "humanitarian aid"? It doesn't make sense for the left hand to be undoing what the right hand is doing. Starvation has always been a weapon of war. Ask any siege ...
You assume facts not in evidence.
When someone says they want to kill you and are amassing arms to do so, I take them seriously. You want to give them a group hug.
You assume facts not in evidence. Moreover, the last time Iran invaded anyone was in the 1790s, when the country was still called "Persia". Contrast the entirely peaceful track record of the United States since that time.
Peaceful like when they took over our Embassy and American hostages in 1979? Or supported terrorist groups that killed over 200 marines in a barrack in Lebanon? Funding and supplying Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthi's terrorist acts?
If you're going to discuss the Embassy and hostages do some serious reading about modern Iran and start after the 2nd world war. Mossadegh was a fascinating individual and had British intelligence and the CIA not overthrown him Iran would have had a very different future. You see he had the crazy idea that Iran's oil wealth should be for Iranians. Like the 241 Marines killed (along with about 60 French soldiers) events are connected to other events and are not isolated. Hamas and Hezbollah have interesting histories and I hope you do some deep reading. The surface stuff is exceptionally boring because it's all propaganda but digging is interesting. Take care.
Sorry to have to repeat myself, but your memory is hella selective:
Wait, I thought the pretext was nuclear proliferation? Now you're digging up 40 year old beefs.
Anyway, the US shot down an Iranian airliner in the 1980s. The Israelis attacked the USS Liberty. The Saudis sponsored 9/11. The United States attacked Iraq on the basis of lies.
So, what exactly is your point?
Where in Iran do you live?
His arguments have definitely gone feral.
Very clever. You're totally full of shit, unless North Dakota is part of Iran.
BTW that line shows that you are devoid of argument. Notice I didn't ask whether you live in Israel, because it's irrelevant.
I seem to remember Iran invading the US embassy, on the late 70's 🤔🤔
Wait, I thought the pretext was nuclear proliferation? Now you're digging up 40 year old beefs.
Anyway, the US shot down an Iranian airliner in the 1980s. The Israelis attacked the USS Liberty. The Saudis sponsored 9/11. The United States attacked Iraq on the basis of lies.
So, what exactly is your point?
Trump speaking now, w/ Vance, Rubio and Hegseth at his side. Vance may not have been down with this, but he’s gotta go along. Is that why Vance has a blue tie on, but the rest have red? 🤣
I saw on X that Hegseth, Gabbard and Vance were against this operation.
Makes sense given what we’ve seen over that several months.
Trump made the decision. That’s clear.
I’m glad Rubio was in favor of this operation.
We shall see.
Time will tell.
What would have been better was Trump not withdrawing us from the JCPOA in his first term.
JPOA was a paper tiger , didn’t go far enough according to Trump.
I suspect his objections had more to do with the fact that Obama signed it. Since he withdrew, we’ll never know.
Could be part of the reason - after all Obama gave Iran pallets (billions) is cash.
I think Trump understood that Iran would agree to anything, having no intention to abide by any of it.
The problem with Iran - - and any real foe - - is that they’re happy to accept your diplomacy so that they can continue building their armed forces in relative peace.
I think it is important to differentiate between the rulers and the people or a nation. And to avoid global generalizations. It is my understanding that the Iranian theocracy is not that popular—but I’m not an expert—I just read Foreign Affairs
And, yeah, that old Marshall Plan. What a bust. Germany, Japan, Italy—still our sworn enemies.
No one knows where we would be if Trump hadn’t withdrawn from the treaty. But I favor the imperfections of diplomacy over one individual inserting my beloved country into a war without consultation at all time when our citizens were in no immediate danger. Now about 40,000 of them are in danger.
Let’s see how far Iran really was in developing a nuclear weapon. Remember the no nukes found in Afghanistan? How did that work for us? So much for the President of Peace.
A thoughtful reply, indeed. But diplomats themselves know things about those with whom they negotiate and may not say those things aloud at the table. With China, for example, long experience tells us that China’s promises not to steal intellectual property are ridiculous. We weight such promises appropriately in negotiations.
Similarly, we expect the same from Iran with respect to weapons production. They pretend to make promises; we pretend to believe them. Incompetents, though, such as those acting on behalf of Obama, did believe them. Thus leading us to the current engagement.
Exactly.
These people arguing against the strike, to them it's inconceivable that Iran would lie and deceive us. 🤔
I don’t see anyone saying that! Please, no all-or-nothing generalizations. I, at least, am only saying that this was an impulsive move without appropriate authorization when the US was not in imminent danger. We are now combatants in the on-going war in the Middle East. Yes, we have armed and trained Israel. But now we are participants. I’m old enough to remember and to have lost loved ones in Vietnam. And certainly many here can remember the “shock and awe” of Afghanistan. So much for your Peace President.
Trump's approach of denying them the oil money to proceed worked just as well. It was that doofus Biden who got us where we are now.
By that logic we should also start a war with North Korea- cause they actually do have nuclear weapons - not just the ‘possibility of nuclear weapons’.
North Korea, China, and Russia have not made their state policy “Death to America, Death to Israel.” Iran has, for decades. They meant it. Israel has done 80% of the work. There was an opportunity. We shall see whether Iran wants more of what they’ve recently received.
We've been in a state of war with North Korea since 1950. The ceasefire still holds.
There's a critical difference between "about to have nukes" and "having nukes". This is not Rocket Science.
I'm a boomer and I'm not happy. Most MAGA boomers aren't for war because a lot of us personally saw what happens during a war because we were serving in the military during Vietnam. So take your snide little comment and shove it.
Yeah he didn’t need to add that dumb little remark
You can either make a rational response or "take your snide little remark and shove it".
Nations routinely take minor losses in order to avoid major losses.
He's likely looking at the polls. The boomers are the only group with a clear majority in support of all this. However it's around 2/3 or 3/5 if I recall correctly, so it's reasonable that among your own group of people you interact with, you'd see a majority against. There's certainly room in there for pockets of dissent against the group average.
They have already been killing US servicemen. Their capacity to continue doing so may or may not be diminished. But the prospect of their doing so while innoculating themselves from reprisal with a nuclear shield is now a pipe dream.
The Zionists got the war they wanted and now get to send American Christian teen males to their death while fighting for Israel. Too bad the warmongers here don’t go or send their kids. Must be nice to get your war and not be at risk of fighting in it. All of you who said Trump wouldn’t get us in this war should publicly apologize here and now for pushing Zionist misinformation.
My teenaged Christian nephew is active U.S. military as an Arabic translator. So, kindly fuck off, antisemite.
I am anti-war and anti-genocide; that Zionists committed genocide in Gaza in 2025 and started a war with Iran, necessarily drives me to criticize them.
You seem to forget that there was peace on Oct 6, 2023.
Hamas started a war. Tell your studs in keffias not to play with explosives, if they're afraid of being retaliated against.
It’s genocide not war. Zionists slaughtered 50,000 defenseless women and children. Never forget the Gaza Holocaust.
Maybe Hamas shouldn't set up their terrorism groups around hospitals and schools. Just a thought.
And 50,000? That's what Hamas says. Good thing they never lie about anything.
Can we just stop equating anti-Zionism with antisemitism? They are not the same.
Anti-Zionism and antisemitism are the same, and it's obvious.
Call off your Jew-hating students at Columbia University. What do American Jews have to do with Gaza? Nothing.
It's easily demonstrated to be Jew hatred.
They actually are the same thing.
Yes this is the fault of those dastardly Zionists. How are Muslim zealots going to get their nukes now? It’s not fair!
My "not a kid" served in a combat role in Afghanistan. This kind of name-calling and virtue signaling disqualifies you from serious conversation.
I thought someone who’s ancestors were from Donegal would have a greater appreciation of the need to object to engaging in foreign wars and also you make my point that American Christians will be the biggest combat casualties by noting your kid (presumably a Christian with Donegal ancestors based on surname of O’Donnell) served in a combat role. Jay (above) makes my point also by saying his nephew a Christian, serves.
You post comments screaming about Zionists. Now you analyze someone’s blood lines based on their name. You expect us to believe your only motivation is hatred of war.
Yeah, I'm reading this, and I'm..
What? 🤔🤔🤔
Unhinged.
Amazing they don’t see that the mullahs would enthusiastically do to Catholics exactly what they do to Jews. Sometimes “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” is a grave miscalculation.
Fanatical hate distorts all perception.
I object to genocide. That Zionists are guilty of genocide and delight in killing children is not my fault. Just block me and move on. And don’t bother lying that Israel isn’t guilty of genocide in Gaza; the entire world has seen it and objectively documented it. Please do block me; you’re getting boring.
So, Hamas raping women and beheading babies...that was ok?
You don't remember reading about that? Your memory is very selective.
Or is that ok, in your book, because it was done against the Jews?
Block you? No. It’s important to see what some people think.
Well, notwithstanding that when in Donegal I Heard "welcome home" a lot, I am a genetic mongrel. I got the apostrophe but few of the genes. Beyond that, you make a lot of assumptions, without basis.
If there’s to be a civil war in this country I hope it’s between generations, Boomers on one side. And the rest of us on the other ;)
That’s not very helpful. Only feeding straight into the hate rhetoric on Boomers, doing Marx’s job for him, separating the generations, families, all for a political ideology of much better control and taking no blame and zero responsibility for one’s own choices. Boomers got screwed over too mate.
My comment is tongue in cheek. I’m suggesting that it’s Boomers who are controlling our foreign policy, and I don’t agree with this foreign policy decision…
Really hilarious.
No Kings Boomer Democrats vs. the rest of us. Not all boomers are Democrats.
You are right! My bad!
Don't forget the angry white feminist leftists, and soyboys.
If there's a civil war in this country it will be between those who support the Second Amendment and those who don't.
That should end well.
And for those who don't: Good luck with that.
You'll lose quicker than you think. Remember, the LGB's are on your side.
I’m Gen X, I’ll take my generation who are now in our 50’s and not alphabet retarded. I can probably still disassemble and assemble an M-60 blindfolded, just gotta watch that the butt stock spring doesn’t fly into the bush. Used to do that as part of shooting competitions when in Army ;)
A lot of us boomers lead or were involved in protests against the Vietnam War. Got the draft eliminated eventually. Please! No generation is a unit.
I know, I know… I was trying to make a statement against those who did this major attack on Iran. Poor move on my part
No worry. I may have misread it as well.
My husband, a “Boomer” (if we must separate the generations in groups 🙄) marched in the Moratorium marches in Sydney covered in chicken blood to protest the Vietnam war, here in Australia. He burnt his draft card. Took off for the bush with others. Then, he fought the courts for months to stay out of that unjust and undeclared war, also on religious convictions. He won his case, the first ever successful conscientious objector to that war, while others, some well known rotted in gaol. He received white feathers in the mail and the ire of his family, but he stuck to his “guns”. We also, for many years supported the Returned Soldiers League and my brother, a scientist gave lectures to Americans on the horrific results of the agent orange bombs on so many western soldiers, their wives and deformed children.
The recent protests don’t have near half as much gusto as the generation previous.
I usually agree with you but that’s a b.s. statement. Most of the “boomers” are anti-war.
This group is gonna be activated to kill American soldiers in Iraq and / or Syria. Then by doing so, help drag us into a war. I hope I’m wrong and I have to eat my words. This sucks. What kind of dirty shit (Epstein?) do they have in Trump?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Mobilization_Forces
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-popular-mobilization-force-is-turning-iraq-into-an-iranian-client-state/
https://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2025/06/iran-backed-shiite-militias-attack-us-forces-based-in-iraq.php
Even though the biggest group of all, Hezbollah, has been sitting on its butt in Lebanon for 9 days without lifting a finger against Israel because they know how that ended the last time.
Hezbollah had their butts blown off by pagers. Are you saying PMF uses the same pagers ;)
This was the correct moral and political choice. Well done, DJT.
This. Is. Necessary.
This is WW3. This is insane.
If this were "necessary", Trump would not have terminated the JCPOA at Netanyahu's command.
That damned agreement did nothing but free up cash to finance Iran's ring of fire to slowly degrade Israel while they built nukes at leisure.
Strange, since Trump could not find any evidence that Iran hadn't complied with the JCPOA.
Trump, of course, speaks Farsi better than the CIA linguists and is is world-renowned for his expertise in crypto analysis and nuclear physics, right?
No, I was thinking he might have wondered where Hamas and Hezbollah got all those rockets and missiles. I don't think you have to speak Farsi to notice they had a bunch of those with Farsi instruction manuals.
Yeah, don't forget all the $70 billion of U.S. weapons that Biden left behind, in Afghanistan...
Trump is cleaning up the Democrats' mess...
Since an Atab can't read Farsi, I suspect that this was added by Israelis.
Anyway, I thought this was about Iran developing nuclear weapons, lol?
Of course some Arabs can read Farsi! Duh.
The useless and ineffective JCPOA? Fools were fooling themselves into believing that deal was something other than a bunch of shuck and jive. Lots of talk and back slapping.
What is your evidence that it was "useless and ineffective"? You seem unable to provide any specifics.
Slowing a train wreck isn't stopping a train wreck. They were allowed to continue enriching uranium and gave the run around to IAEA and its inspectors. "The IAEA last week criticised Iran's "general lack of co-operation" and said it had enough uranium enriched to 60% purity, near weapons grade, to potentially make nine nuclear bombs." Only fools would continue to believe they could stop radical Islamic fundamentals from achieving exactly what they've been screaming for and acting on for decades: "Death to Israel and death to America".
Except Trump was unable to provide any evidence that Iran didn't comply with the JCPOA. All that you write applies to after Trump ended the JCPOA.
Pakistan has The Bomb, BTW, and somehow,in spite of being an Islamic state and sponsor of terror, they don't seem to be doing anything.
"The IAEA last week criticised Iran's "general lack of co-operation" and said it had enough uranium enriched to 60% purity, near weapons grade, to potentially make nine nuclear bombs." How did Iran get to 60% enrichment? They sidestepped the JCPOA and hamstrung IAEA inspection has they had always intended.
JCPOA was meaningless... Nothing was enforced. They violated the whole agreement countless times.
it might as well been the Iranian's JC Penney card.
And hey, they also got cash rewards from Obama-- a planeload of cash!
Since Iran wasn't increasing enrichment levels, it worked exactly as intended. The US, BTW, merely returned Iran its own stolen property.
Since when?
Word is, they had reached 60% enrichment.
Facts and science don't matter. This is impenetrable bubble like Iran's nuclear enrichment facility buried deep under a mountain. It'll take some kind of a massive payload to break through.
*after* Trump terminated the JCPOA.
They were on their way to that, all along. Do you REALLY think that they stopped their nuclear enrichment when the agreement was signed, and would have stopped pursuing nuclear weapons, if the agreement had stayed in place? Huh?
Trump terminated it because they violated it, and the agreement was unverifiable and unenforceable.
Just yesterday, Trump enforced the prior agreement.
Iraq will not be allowed to have nuclear weapons!
You should be happy!
After finally leaving the Dems and voting for a Republican because, among other things, he was against starting wars I realized I was duped again - just another president answering to Israel. Never underestimate the stupidity of those who advocate for war. In my lifetime they have never been right - once! What a mess.
When Harold Macmillan, UK Prime Minister from 1957 to 1963, was asked what was the greatest challenge for a statesman, he replied: "Events, dear boy, events". It's easy for politicians to make promises to the voters about what they intend to do (and not do) when they get into office, but once elected their carefully crafted but untested policy agendas often fail to withstand a confrontation with harsh reality. I'm reminded of that old joke: "If you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans".
Keep in mind that two bombs in Japan ended a World War. The promise was that more were on the way.
Trump caved to the Zionists; now American Christian young men will be sent to their death for Israel.
Stop trolling, antisemite.
I am anti-war and anti-genocide; that Zionists committed genocide in Gaza in 2025 and started a war with Iran, necessarily drives me to criticize them.
You're only anti-war because Israel is better at it than your favorite sponsors of terrorism. You're only anti-genocide because it's not Jews being wiped out.
If world conflicts were decided by playing Tiddlywinks and Israel was better at it than the nations trying to destroy it, you'd be anti-Tiddlywinks.
Nope; I was against US involvement in Vietnam, Iraq and Ukraine; 4 of my brothers and I served active duty US military, we are anti-war.
That's very much like saying you're anti-crime but your whole family has worked for the mob, sport.
You seem to forget that there was Peace on Oct 6, 2023.
Hamas broke it.
Fuck around, find out!
Wrong- Trump has been saying for years no nukes for Iran.
The Abraham Accords are the gift that keep on giving. The Mullahs should have never threatened MBS, the UAE and Israel.
Several congressmen (and women) have called this strike on Iran unconstitutional and think that The President should be impeached. Part of their argument seems to be that he failed to consult them. But given that the democratic members of congress all throughout 2017-2021 and the current term have shown no interest in compromising on practically every issue, why would he talk to them about anything, much less this? By being completely hostile, the democratic members of congress have forfeited any roll they could have had in developing US policy.
No US war since ww2 had Congressional approval. Jonathan Turley went through the history of that today. He’s no Trump acolyte.
1. Telling their base Look At Me! I'm Doing Something! 2 If The Democrats Did Not do that, THAT would be news.
Right, and besides that, they would have leaked the details of the air strike Trump was planning.
No leaks this time!
Exactly. Or used speed-dial to their cadre of leftist activist judges dispersed in districts across America, who would have filed restraining orders.
Trump said "within two weeks" not "two weeks from now".
Good. It needed to be done.
The Ayatollah F'ed A and FO.
What a piece of crap. Donald J Bush. Freaking asshole.
That ass*ole just saved millions of lives.
Lmao, no, he did not.
Enlighten us, princess.....why do you defend Iran terrorists?
Another automatic, reflexive Democrat TDS reaction! Oppose Trump, because "Orange Man Bad."
It's how the Democrats have painted themselves into a corner, on the losing side of all these 80/20 issues...
Instead of actually analyzing these issues, they automatically opposed everything he does. But hey, I say, keep it up! Let's go Whigs!
I think it's a bot. So stupid.
Thank you for the quick update!
Yes, thank you. The first of my substack subscriptions to hit my inbox with the news. I am sorry to hear it but I am going to trust our President to have made the most informed decision possible.
I think prayers are more helpful than immediately throwing a tantrum when you don’t have the facts.🙏
Would you say the same about Biden?
No. Biden is corrupt and mentally incompetent since sometime during the Obama administration. Don’t forget Barry’s warning “never underestimate Joe’s ability to fuck things up.”
However, I did hold back my hysterical trolling over his handling of the Afghanistan withdrawal until the smoke began to clear. I suggest you find a paper bag to blow into and go for a walk.
So, you've made it clear that you're just coming up with excuses because Trump.
Right. So you’re just trolling. Carry on.
Hardly. You are trying to change the subject.
So, you've made it clear that you're just coming up with derangement because Trump.
Not at all, but tell yourself that if it makes you feel better.
Here's the list of Presidents who have bombed other countries without being impeached.
Barack Obama (2009–2017) - Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan.
George W. Bush (2001–2009) - Afghanistan, Iraq.
Bill Clinton (1993–2001) - Iraq, Serbia, Sudan, Afghanistan.
George H. W. Bush (1989–1993) - Iraq, Panama.
Ronald Reagan (1981–1989) - Libya, Grenada.
Richard Nixon (1969–1974) - Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos.
Lyndon B. Johnson Vietnam (1963-1969), Vietnam, Dominican Republic
Harry Truman, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Etc etc etc.
Point taken Asshole.
All you fargin' sneaky bastidges...
I gonna cut off your boils, and shove them down your throat, you farkin' iceholes! 🤣😂