Wouldn’t it be nice if everyone who had the misfortune of being kidnapped enjoyed the same level of national attention and effort to secure their release as relatives of famous people?
I agree that it got more coverage because of Samantha Guthrie's name, but the kidnapping of an 84 year old is pretty rare in and of itself. That alone makes it more newsworthy.
40+ years ago, my 85-year-old aunt was raped, savagely beaten and left for dead (she later died of her wounds).
I, too, thought this kind of crime must be rare. I did some pre-internet research and discovered it was not.
I have continued to follow stories - not usually followed by the national media - of violent crimes - including abductions - of the elderly. They are easy targets, often live alone, and frequently keep cash and other valuables around the house or apartment.
All of these crimes are newsworthy. Very newsworthy. And they are NOT rare.
A guest on one of the networks tonight said that this is the first kidnapping (if it is a kidnapping) other than by terrorists, in the entire world, in decades. I don't know, but he sounded like he knew his stuff
Oh Sasha, please. Your first mistake is thinking we actually watch the mainstream media and believe anything they have to say. Yes, we still get a little bit of news even when we try to ignore anything on MSM, but it doesn’t dominate our lives. However, I don’t think that many people are following the story daily. At this point, I don’t think the lady is still alive. I pray that she is and Savannah sees her mom again. I wonder if Savannah will ever thank Trump for the help that he has provided, but I doubt it.
THIS!!! I came here to say this exact same thing. The ONLY reason this “feels” uniting is because Savanah is a democrat and conservatives aren’t cruel and heartless, and still have our souls.
If it were a conservative journalist’s mom, the situation would NOT be the same.
there are two possible outcomes of the Guthrie abduction: the kids did it (motive: to collect inheritance); or two, much higher probability, illegal immigrants did it, perhaps supported by one of the big Mexican cartels that operate in Tucson (many "safe houses" are scattered throughout the area to house drug runners and inventory narcotics and sex slaves on their transport north. Here is a recent (last week) example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw59fmJe-kQ). The motive for a Cartel abduction is money, like everything that drives the cartels. But, in that instance, they clumsily killed their hostage and so wrecked their crypto ransom plan, which is why there are no answers. If it was a cartel, then Nancy is cut up in pieces and probably incinerated to hide the evidence. Both stories are bad news for the far Left MSM. The first besmirches the character of the family of one of their star anchors; The second blows a giant hole in the Left's Open Borders and "all Hispanics are good people / Bad Bunny" narrative. The Left and MSM will do whatever it takes to suppress the outcome.
"The Left and MSM will do whatever it takes to suppress the outcome." In that same vein, can you imagine if it would have been A Republican sheriff who incompetently closed the crime scene early and then showed up at a basketball game? The Left would have made THAT the story. And Brian, don't forget the third possible outcome--TRUMP! Read sarcasm. Everything for the Left, is ALWAYS Trump's fault. Not once have I heard SG say thank you for having the FBI at her disposal. Stage 4 TDS is not curable.
It's not just the MSM that has been reporting on this. It's all over YouTube. I have to confess I've been glued to it. But I know a couple of people with very busy lives who have barely been following it.
I haven’t followed at all and really no true interest. Only see what pops up while reading other news. I care about that poor lady in hoping she’s alive, but think she’s already dead.
We are united on this tragedy only because Nancy is an 84 year old leftie who donates to Act Blue, and a grandmother. But just for a moment let’s say that she was an 84 year old conservative who donated to Trump and WINRED. I can only imagine what the leftie crazies would say. They’d publicly hope she was tortured and murdered.
MSM "talent" (as they call them in the industry) are treated as demigods. It serves arrogance and narcissism with obnoxious navel-gazing. They are first and foremost actors. The only true heroes in journalism today are now among the intrepid alts, both left and right who put "lives, fortunes, and sacred honor" at risk for truth.
Savannah Guthrie and her mother are among those whose very reason for being has been to destroy Trump and his followers. We are not going to pretend otherwise.
I was shocked by Nancy's nancy SM posts wish harming to the Trump family. And her sister Annie is HARD LEFT, antifa, anti-ICE, pro illegal alien criminals.
Well, Savanah Guthrie is a journalist. A journalist being covered by other people who also claim to be journalists. Savanah is one of the anointed ones among the anointed journalist class. These same journalists didn’t spend much time covering the cases of the illegal alien killers of Jocelyn Nungaray, Rachel Morin, Laken Reilly. No one in the anointed class cares about much what’s going on with Ashli Babbitt’s mother. I’m not really sure this is a collective come-together moment. I hope her mother is alive.
I agree with your sentiment, but find it impossible to call SG a journalist. Rather, she is a flunky for the Left, doing their bidding, spreading their propaganda and living high off the hog because she agrees that 2 plus 2 equals 5.
So tired of these TikTok clips. It’s all mentally ill white women talking about things no one cares about. Normal people don’t care who you voted for, and they don’t ask. This mental patient (you can tell by the eyes) is so laughably obsessed with Trump, she has to broadcast her obsession to the world. It’s as if she’s turning a pebble over and over in her fingers, fussing with it, unable to stop. I’m afraid I’ll have to second Jeff Keener’s comment!
Not united at all.. Notice there are 0 leftists in 'elected' positions of power, however fraudulently, here in AZ, from the sheriff (other than his initial mindless, dipshit statement), from mayor, senate members, AG to the hidden Governor Katie Hobbs, who have stepped forward to express the slightest interest in SOLVING Guthrie case & bringing the cartel/illegal/criminal responsible to justice. Why? Because their power relies on such criminals. Thankfully, Trump's FBI takes interest even though they had to wait days to be invited to do so.
From X : Nancy Guthrie is a rabidly anti-Trump, anti-MAGA far-left Democrat supporter of Antifa, illegal immigration and the anti-ICE insurrection against the Federal government. Her lengthy list of ActBlue campaign contributions prove this out.
Nancy Guthrie relentlessly and viciously attacked President Trump and the ICE enforcement of Federal immigration laws. She hoped President Trump's entire family was sent to prison and referred to him as "satanic".
What's really significant about Nancy Guthrie's Facebook posts, as it relates to her kidnapping, is her obsession with supporting illegal immigration and her hateful opposition to Federal ICE officers enforcing Federal immigration laws.
Why is this important?
Because Nancy Guthrie was regularly communicating with anti-ICE, pro-illegal immigration accounts on social media.
Being that she is the mother of an extremely wealthy NBC Today TV show host, it is very plausible that Nancy Guthrie was communicating with illegal immigrants and groups involved in hiding illegal immigrants, and this could have made her a prime target for being kidnapped by individuals in the Tucson area who are involved in human smuggling of illegal aliens and other crimes. ~ https://x.com/JamesHartline/status/2019945097576772065
Well written! It is my suspicion that is EXACTLY what happened. "Illegal Immigrants" (aka cartels) are very powerful in Tucson and will do whatever they like to make a buck, without regard to politics, age or gender. These are the people who routinely steal pre-teen girls, groom (drug?) and sell them as sex slaves. There are "safe houses" all over the Tucson area. Isn't it ironic if Nancy Guthrie was kidnapped by cartel goons who then accidentally kill her in the process which eliminates her usefulness to gain ransom from Savannah. There is no decency in these cartel people so they just dispose of her like so much other useless flesh they generate with their cruelty. Nancy Guthrie will never be found
Abuse of women from cartels & their illegal human human, drug, sex trafficking over US southern border makes Epstein look like a saint. All Dims can do is protest ICE.
Protesting against deportations is in effect protesting for open borders. The major reason why people stopped coming is because of the deportations. Stop the deportations and they will come again. Apparently this is what the democrats want.
I remember when Tucker was interviewing RFK a couple of years ago who said he’d been to the southern border and it’s owned and operated by the cartels. And the democrats were and still are fully on board with that. How can we possibly ever again trust or feel anything positive about people like this who supposedly are our “fellow Americans”? How can we ever again have a functional society with half the country fighting for open borders?
I knew nothing about Nancy Guthrie or her daughter, Samantha because I don't watch mainstream TV. Hearing Nancy has displayed such antagonism toward this administration and its policies, certainly casts an unfavorable view of her. That said, I don't wish her harm for her political opinions and do hope she returns home. She will atone for her sins some day.
Wow, I didn't know octogenarian ladies were so active on social media. I never would have known this. Naturally, this aspect of Nancy Guthrie is not being reported in any of the media I have watched on the case. Not even Megyn Kelly, surprisingly. But Megyn knows or knew Savannah when she was at NBC, so I guess that's understandable given she feels a personal connection.
I wonder if this would be the case if the missing woman was an outspoken Trump supporter, as far as the media's silence on her political leanings.
Pathetic that someone feels the need to demonstrate their superiority because she's so sure of having the moral high ground all the while wearing a cross representing someone who preached behavioral standards so in contrast to her own. Anyone subscribing to cancel culture doesn't have a clue as to the philosophy behind Christianity. She alludes to Trump as a pedophile because that's the progressive narrative sold to dimwits unable to interpret the evidence for themselves. I can imagine her rants about the unmasked and unvaccinated, or how it's okay for criminal illegals to roam about the country.
I have had enough. I’d had enough on day one. This is prurient, voyeuristic, and just gross. I can tell that the talking heads are weary of it, but the higher-ups are making them do it. It’s a sicker version of The Truman Show.
More tragic things happen every day to ordinary people, and they don’t merit so much as a footnote.
How many hundreds of thousands of missing children are there in this country? Where is the nonstop television coverage for them? Are they being availed of all the FBI's "assets?"
I'll be honest. I was looking at her tits, which, I think was the point of this video. I might be old, but I'm still a man🤷♂️. What was she saying? Go Trump? Right on!
I was just about to comment that Trump supporters can identify what “side” she stands for just by the smug look on her face even before she began speaking *err* lecturing.
Isn't it a bit strange that the Nancy Guthrie story has been used as a smokescreen on Cable News to exclude all other news of the day? Other things are happening in the world, and very little new information about Nancy G develops during each long broadcast. Why spend a half-hour on it? Suspicious. . . .
News Flash: Megyn is as much a dealer in sensationalism as anyone out there. In fact, she has of late bordered on Nancy Grace. Most unfortunate. I had higher expectations of her.
I still have a high regard for her. She’s one of the few who regularly call out the democrats for their demonization of “Whiteness!” which has done immense damage to this society. One of Biden’s favorite topics was about how white racism, “systemic racism” is always everywhere oppressing blacks and keeping them down. Certainly did a lot to poison race relations. Why do they do that? To promote white guilt which will then gain supporters in the general public who will be in favor of things like reparations and equity aka race based equal outcomes. All must be equal in America.
Megyn has a reputation to uphold, or not. Her UFO outburst a couple of weeks ago, and, now, the Guthrie melodrama, leave me less likely to tune in. Still watching and listening to her, though, as even an alien abduction of Nancy G. Is better than anything coming out of MS-NOW or NPR.
She had just seen the newish documentary, “Age of Disclosure,” about the “big government cover-up” featuring a cast of somewhat credible military and government sources. She was pretty excited.
I hope she gets home safely, but…
Wouldn’t it be nice if everyone who had the misfortune of being kidnapped enjoyed the same level of national attention and effort to secure their release as relatives of famous people?
I agree that it got more coverage because of Samantha Guthrie's name, but the kidnapping of an 84 year old is pretty rare in and of itself. That alone makes it more newsworthy.
40+ years ago, my 85-year-old aunt was raped, savagely beaten and left for dead (she later died of her wounds).
I, too, thought this kind of crime must be rare. I did some pre-internet research and discovered it was not.
I have continued to follow stories - not usually followed by the national media - of violent crimes - including abductions - of the elderly. They are easy targets, often live alone, and frequently keep cash and other valuables around the house or apartment.
All of these crimes are newsworthy. Very newsworthy. And they are NOT rare.
That’s terrifying
But true.
A guest on one of the networks tonight said that this is the first kidnapping (if it is a kidnapping) other than by terrorists, in the entire world, in decades. I don't know, but he sounded like he knew his stuff
Kidnapping is a way of life south of our border. Easy to research recent crimes on line.
I taught acting. It's very easy to "sound like" he knew his stuff.
Savannah not Samantha
Whatever. I had never heard of her before. I do hope her mother is OK.
Right.
Imagine if it were Shane Hannity’s mother!!! LOL
🎯
Oh Sasha, please. Your first mistake is thinking we actually watch the mainstream media and believe anything they have to say. Yes, we still get a little bit of news even when we try to ignore anything on MSM, but it doesn’t dominate our lives. However, I don’t think that many people are following the story daily. At this point, I don’t think the lady is still alive. I pray that she is and Savannah sees her mom again. I wonder if Savannah will ever thank Trump for the help that he has provided, but I doubt it.
If this was Dana Perino's mother, how would the Left spin it?
THIS!!! I came here to say this exact same thing. The ONLY reason this “feels” uniting is because Savanah is a democrat and conservatives aren’t cruel and heartless, and still have our souls.
If it were a conservative journalist’s mom, the situation would NOT be the same.
There would be no spin, no coverage.
I think there is a good chance the Left would come up with some form of "She deserves it"
Oh indeed, that they would do along with a sneer on their face.
To ask the question is to answer it...
sorry - duplicate
Your last sentence: Thank you for being brave enough to say what millions of us are thinking.
there are two possible outcomes of the Guthrie abduction: the kids did it (motive: to collect inheritance); or two, much higher probability, illegal immigrants did it, perhaps supported by one of the big Mexican cartels that operate in Tucson (many "safe houses" are scattered throughout the area to house drug runners and inventory narcotics and sex slaves on their transport north. Here is a recent (last week) example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw59fmJe-kQ). The motive for a Cartel abduction is money, like everything that drives the cartels. But, in that instance, they clumsily killed their hostage and so wrecked their crypto ransom plan, which is why there are no answers. If it was a cartel, then Nancy is cut up in pieces and probably incinerated to hide the evidence. Both stories are bad news for the far Left MSM. The first besmirches the character of the family of one of their star anchors; The second blows a giant hole in the Left's Open Borders and "all Hispanics are good people / Bad Bunny" narrative. The Left and MSM will do whatever it takes to suppress the outcome.
I’ve had the same outcomes in mind, leaning more on an unknown individual and most likely illegal.
"The Left and MSM will do whatever it takes to suppress the outcome." In that same vein, can you imagine if it would have been A Republican sheriff who incompetently closed the crime scene early and then showed up at a basketball game? The Left would have made THAT the story. And Brian, don't forget the third possible outcome--TRUMP! Read sarcasm. Everything for the Left, is ALWAYS Trump's fault. Not once have I heard SG say thank you for having the FBI at her disposal. Stage 4 TDS is not curable.
It's not just the MSM that has been reporting on this. It's all over YouTube. I have to confess I've been glued to it. But I know a couple of people with very busy lives who have barely been following it.
I haven’t followed at all and really no true interest. Only see what pops up while reading other news. I care about that poor lady in hoping she’s alive, but think she’s already dead.
We are united on this tragedy only because Nancy is an 84 year old leftie who donates to Act Blue, and a grandmother. But just for a moment let’s say that she was an 84 year old conservative who donated to Trump and WINRED. I can only imagine what the leftie crazies would say. They’d publicly hope she was tortured and murdered.
It would be Mangione II. “No, there is no justifying this. BUT . . . . “
I'm not a cruel person, but I really don't have time or energy for the Guthrie distraction.
Thank You!!!! IF Savannah Guthrie was not on TV would this be something we'd be talking about?
MSM "talent" (as they call them in the industry) are treated as demigods. It serves arrogance and narcissism with obnoxious navel-gazing. They are first and foremost actors. The only true heroes in journalism today are now among the intrepid alts, both left and right who put "lives, fortunes, and sacred honor" at risk for truth.
Truth!! Andy Ngo and Nick Shirley come to mind
There was a time when there were real actual Reporters Left Wing To Be Sure...BUT) that were MC's on these TV shows.
These days Not So Much.
Savannah Guthrie and her mother are among those whose very reason for being has been to destroy Trump and his followers. We are not going to pretend otherwise.
I was shocked by Nancy's nancy SM posts wish harming to the Trump family. And her sister Annie is HARD LEFT, antifa, anti-ICE, pro illegal alien criminals.
Me too. I just hope with all the hype given this story there aren’t copy cat kidnappings to come.
Well, Savanah Guthrie is a journalist. A journalist being covered by other people who also claim to be journalists. Savanah is one of the anointed ones among the anointed journalist class. These same journalists didn’t spend much time covering the cases of the illegal alien killers of Jocelyn Nungaray, Rachel Morin, Laken Reilly. No one in the anointed class cares about much what’s going on with Ashli Babbitt’s mother. I’m not really sure this is a collective come-together moment. I hope her mother is alive.
I agree with your sentiment, but find it impossible to call SG a journalist. Rather, she is a flunky for the Left, doing their bidding, spreading their propaganda and living high off the hog because she agrees that 2 plus 2 equals 5.
So tired of these TikTok clips. It’s all mentally ill white women talking about things no one cares about. Normal people don’t care who you voted for, and they don’t ask. This mental patient (you can tell by the eyes) is so laughably obsessed with Trump, she has to broadcast her obsession to the world. It’s as if she’s turning a pebble over and over in her fingers, fussing with it, unable to stop. I’m afraid I’ll have to second Jeff Keener’s comment!
Well shoot after two references I had to go watch the video and see for myself. 😆
Right. Better to remain quiet and have people think you're stupid than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Not united at all.. Notice there are 0 leftists in 'elected' positions of power, however fraudulently, here in AZ, from the sheriff (other than his initial mindless, dipshit statement), from mayor, senate members, AG to the hidden Governor Katie Hobbs, who have stepped forward to express the slightest interest in SOLVING Guthrie case & bringing the cartel/illegal/criminal responsible to justice. Why? Because their power relies on such criminals. Thankfully, Trump's FBI takes interest even though they had to wait days to be invited to do so.
From X : Nancy Guthrie is a rabidly anti-Trump, anti-MAGA far-left Democrat supporter of Antifa, illegal immigration and the anti-ICE insurrection against the Federal government. Her lengthy list of ActBlue campaign contributions prove this out.
Nancy Guthrie relentlessly and viciously attacked President Trump and the ICE enforcement of Federal immigration laws. She hoped President Trump's entire family was sent to prison and referred to him as "satanic".
What's really significant about Nancy Guthrie's Facebook posts, as it relates to her kidnapping, is her obsession with supporting illegal immigration and her hateful opposition to Federal ICE officers enforcing Federal immigration laws.
Why is this important?
Because Nancy Guthrie was regularly communicating with anti-ICE, pro-illegal immigration accounts on social media.
Being that she is the mother of an extremely wealthy NBC Today TV show host, it is very plausible that Nancy Guthrie was communicating with illegal immigrants and groups involved in hiding illegal immigrants, and this could have made her a prime target for being kidnapped by individuals in the Tucson area who are involved in human smuggling of illegal aliens and other crimes. ~ https://x.com/JamesHartline/status/2019945097576772065
Well written! It is my suspicion that is EXACTLY what happened. "Illegal Immigrants" (aka cartels) are very powerful in Tucson and will do whatever they like to make a buck, without regard to politics, age or gender. These are the people who routinely steal pre-teen girls, groom (drug?) and sell them as sex slaves. There are "safe houses" all over the Tucson area. Isn't it ironic if Nancy Guthrie was kidnapped by cartel goons who then accidentally kill her in the process which eliminates her usefulness to gain ransom from Savannah. There is no decency in these cartel people so they just dispose of her like so much other useless flesh they generate with their cruelty. Nancy Guthrie will never be found
Abuse of women from cartels & their illegal human human, drug, sex trafficking over US southern border makes Epstein look like a saint. All Dims can do is protest ICE.
Protesting against deportations is in effect protesting for open borders. The major reason why people stopped coming is because of the deportations. Stop the deportations and they will come again. Apparently this is what the democrats want.
Trump's story /poem about the snake comes to mind.
I remember when Tucker was interviewing RFK a couple of years ago who said he’d been to the southern border and it’s owned and operated by the cartels. And the democrats were and still are fully on board with that. How can we possibly ever again trust or feel anything positive about people like this who supposedly are our “fellow Americans”? How can we ever again have a functional society with half the country fighting for open borders?
I knew nothing about Nancy Guthrie or her daughter, Samantha because I don't watch mainstream TV. Hearing Nancy has displayed such antagonism toward this administration and its policies, certainly casts an unfavorable view of her. That said, I don't wish her harm for her political opinions and do hope she returns home. She will atone for her sins some day.
Wow, I didn't know octogenarian ladies were so active on social media. I never would have known this. Naturally, this aspect of Nancy Guthrie is not being reported in any of the media I have watched on the case. Not even Megyn Kelly, surprisingly. But Megyn knows or knew Savannah when she was at NBC, so I guess that's understandable given she feels a personal connection.
I wonder if this would be the case if the missing woman was an outspoken Trump supporter, as far as the media's silence on her political leanings.
Pathetic that someone feels the need to demonstrate their superiority because she's so sure of having the moral high ground all the while wearing a cross representing someone who preached behavioral standards so in contrast to her own. Anyone subscribing to cancel culture doesn't have a clue as to the philosophy behind Christianity. She alludes to Trump as a pedophile because that's the progressive narrative sold to dimwits unable to interpret the evidence for themselves. I can imagine her rants about the unmasked and unvaccinated, or how it's okay for criminal illegals to roam about the country.
Dick Minnis
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Color me whatever.
I just feel that the whole thing is a hoax.
Anderson Cooper would go to lengths to not be part of the story. Here Samantha Guthrie is the story.
The whole thing feels off to me
Did you actually listen to the bizarre statement she made? It was so weird in its construction and use of words.
Okay, I’ll be the turd in the punch bowl.
I have had enough. I’d had enough on day one. This is prurient, voyeuristic, and just gross. I can tell that the talking heads are weary of it, but the higher-ups are making them do it. It’s a sicker version of The Truman Show.
More tragic things happen every day to ordinary people, and they don’t merit so much as a footnote.
Given the preferences of the Democrats and the Media, I would suggest that Nancy Guthrie is the bad guy here. Kidnappers are misunderstood
You are absolutely correct. Nancy will have deserved this and the kidnapper/murderer will be a victim of the horrible democracy and Trump
Agree. What's good for the goose and all that...
Yes. I wonder when Chris Holland will arrive with the Martinis.
How many hundreds of thousands of missing children are there in this country? Where is the nonstop television coverage for them? Are they being availed of all the FBI's "assets?"
Thank you! Not a peep from the Left media for the 300K+ children who were used and abused with the Open Border that Savannah Guthrie defended
I'll be honest. I was looking at her tits, which, I think was the point of this video. I might be old, but I'm still a man🤷♂️. What was she saying? Go Trump? Right on!
Butt’er face
Glad these ladies self identify. By their demeanor, by their speech, by their smug attitude. Saves us all from wasting time.
I was just about to comment that Trump supporters can identify what “side” she stands for just by the smug look on her face even before she began speaking *err* lecturing.
Isn't it a bit strange that the Nancy Guthrie story has been used as a smokescreen on Cable News to exclude all other news of the day? Other things are happening in the world, and very little new information about Nancy G develops during each long broadcast. Why spend a half-hour on it? Suspicious. . . .
I agree but why is Megyn Kelly so devoted to it? That’s what got me following it.
News Flash: Megyn is as much a dealer in sensationalism as anyone out there. In fact, she has of late bordered on Nancy Grace. Most unfortunate. I had higher expectations of her.
I still have a high regard for her. She’s one of the few who regularly call out the democrats for their demonization of “Whiteness!” which has done immense damage to this society. One of Biden’s favorite topics was about how white racism, “systemic racism” is always everywhere oppressing blacks and keeping them down. Certainly did a lot to poison race relations. Why do they do that? To promote white guilt which will then gain supporters in the general public who will be in favor of things like reparations and equity aka race based equal outcomes. All must be equal in America.
Megyn has a reputation to uphold, or not. Her UFO outburst a couple of weeks ago, and, now, the Guthrie melodrama, leave me less likely to tune in. Still watching and listening to her, though, as even an alien abduction of Nancy G. Is better than anything coming out of MS-NOW or NPR.
What UFO outburst?? I watch her pretty regularly and missed that one.
She had just seen the newish documentary, “Age of Disclosure,” about the “big government cover-up” featuring a cast of somewhat credible military and government sources. She was pretty excited.
Megyn used to work at NBC (before she was fired) and personally knows Savannah. I think that's what's behind her heavy coverage of it.
Here’s to hope.