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Robert Ingraham's avatar

Sasha, as someone who greatly admires your posts and admires you personally, I have to say---and perhaps it is a leftover from the background you escaped from---you still put way, way too much importance on this social media crap. Who is having a spat with whom; who attacked so-and-so.; etc., etc. The vast majority of Americans pay no attention to any of this. It is a virtual playland; it is not the real world. Sure, CNN, the NY Times, etc. try to use this to divide MAGA, but how many people read the NY Times or watch CNN? Maybe 1/2 of 1 percent of the population? Or less? By November 2026 the massive expansion of the productive economy will be visible to all and impacting people's lives in a meaningful way. Bu 2028 we will be in the midst of perhaps the greatest productive economic boom in the nation's history. Listen to Trump's optimism, not all this social media nonsense.

PKsweets's avatar

I agree

Social media is filled with bots and trolls trying to control the narrative and yes, I see that Amfest had a lot of fractured issues and feelings, but Megan‘s been on the outs before Candice has been on the outs before Tucker has been on the outs before so it’s a click issue they’re still gonna get more looks and likes and I think in the end for those folks that’s what they want

And I’m looking at California, who is losing billions of dollars billions because the oil refineries are leaving the state and we’re going to be facing $10 a gallon gasoline in the very near future we should talk about the affordability crisis that’s where they need to focus because it’s the Democrats who own all of this and not just oil, meat processing, poultry processing growers of vegetables and nut crops. It is so restrictive to do business in this state and we pay such a high price to live here. I’m seeing young people leaving. They just walk away from it all and all I tell them is don’t let them know you’re from California wherever you go. They automatically hate you.

Anyway, there’s always fringe in the parties and they’re not main streaming them and it’s just noise

https://thenevadaglobe.com/articles/golden-state-exodus-valero-burns-1b-just-to-get-out-of-california/

Cat C.'s avatar

Oh geez, I wish you would've also told them "DON'T bring your f-ed up leftist politics with you. Either vote Republican or don't vote at all".

Kidbuck's avatar

There IS no "MAGA CIvil War". The left certainly LOVES to think so.

Shapiro is the opposite of what Charlie Kirk stood for. He never cared much for Shapiro anyway.

I don't know about most others, and I mean no disrespect, but I am certainly "Antisemite" FATIGUED. 🥴

babbazee's avatar

sorry for your fatigue

As a Jew perhaps I should lay down and die

let everyone make up whatever bullshit they want to my face

and keep my mouth shut forever

so assholes the world over can cease suffering from antisemite fatigue

All evil

meets three times a day

at Jew Hate Junction

and all evil believes in global peace through dead Jews

you already have Jesus, that should plenty enough dead Jew for everyone

but no

you are fatigued

Richard's avatar

Consider, if you will, what happens to Jews if the Left wins. There are more anti-Semites on the right than there used to be but they are the majority faction on the Left.

Brian Katz's avatar

Heads I win, tails you lose ?

The numbers you speak of are accurate.

I cannot criticize you for that.

I’m just very frustrated in the turn of recent events driven by those who fear criticizing Tucker Carlson.

Megyn Kelly is the biggest disappointment.

Here are the words Megyn: Tucker is my friend and I respect him a lot, but I disagree with the approach he is taking in his rhetoric about Jews.

I don’t understand why this is so difficult.

Cynicon Implant's avatar

I love many Jews (depends on their mensch level) but sometimes despise the policies of Israel. If you take my occasional distaste for Israel as a personal attack on you, that's on you.

Matt L.'s avatar

Here’s what JD Vance stated today:

“I think that Nick Fuentes, his influence within Donald Trump’s administration, and within a whole host of institutions on the Right, is vastly overstated — and frankly, it’s overstated by people who want to avoid having a foreign-policy conversation about America’s relationship with Israel”

JD also told UnHerd that anyone attacking his wife (Fuentes, Psaki, etc.) can “eat shit”

Fra Raymond's avatar

I love Venezuela, it's a beautiful country. I dislike a few Venezuelans; some, not all, of those that I know are not nice people. Oh, and I despise communists - jews, muslims, buddhists, christians, zoroastrians, scientologists and especially the atheists

Bobby's avatar

You despise the policies of Israel ...but OK with Iran ,Qatar & Hamas?

Go F yourself!!

Lzy's avatar

Way to play the perpetual victim while throwing in some guilt for good measure. Merry Christmas to you.

R H's avatar

Ben Shapiro isn't part of the MAGA movement. He's a self-serving Israel first shill. The old school, establishment, neocon, country club, RINO party is dead. They need to be continuously primaried until they no longer exist. They are worse than Demoncats because at least you know the Demoncats are your enemy. RINO's work behind the scenes to sabotage MAGA.

Elaine Eike's avatar

"He never cared much for Shapiro anyway." What evidence do you have for that statement?

Brian DeLeon's avatar

I agree. California is a mess and getting worse. Every time I think the state is nearing bottom and the voters will flip 180 degrees, a Proposition 50 will pass overwhelmingly, which gerrymanders the Republican party out of existence, and really goes against everyone’s best interests. But the brainwashed public can’t seem to help themselves, and will ride this disaster all the way to hell.

I tell my kids, when they finish school, move out of state somewhere and get out of California.

Trapped in IL's avatar

So very sad. We have friends and relatives there, and not sure how or why they bought into all the leftist crap they are shoveling in CA.

Sharon's avatar

Get them out of California schools!

JW Writes's avatar

I agree. Panic over people disagreeing is still a left issue. Most conservatives I’ve ever known fully expect differing opinion, and are able to have them and still grab dinner later. It’s literally a hallmark of conservatism and being able to disagree is what differentiates the right from the left. No lock step, parrot the right words stuff.

Griswold's avatar

Being able to agree to disagree is conservativism.

Not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good is conservativism.

Nicki Minaj gave the best interview. “You can change your mind. “

As facts change, my ideas can reform.

It is important to be able to discern the truth yourself.

Trapped in IL's avatar

Being from IL, we just assume everyone else is a Democrat. Basically, we wouldn’t have any friends if we excluded these people from our lives. We always hope that they will see the light. But when you are surrounded by lefties, you need to be fully informed with facts. They like to make off the cuff remarks, basically propaganda that has been drilled into their brains. And so you need to be ready with a smart and factual reply…one that won’t destroy your relationship. That is why I appreciate this Substack and Sasha! Merry Christmas everyone!

Deborah Gallaway's avatar

I sure wish it were actually that simple. Over the past ten years my husband and I have responded gently but with facts to our sons’ accusations against all things MAGA. This kind of effort does destroy relationships. They refuse to spend time with us unless we vow to keep silent on all political issues. And we won’t agree to that censorship. Boy does it hurt to spend every Christmas alone.

Trapped in IL's avatar

I’m so sorry that your sons have been so indoctrinated against you and your beliefs. Christmas should transcend our

differences. I will pray that your family can mend its relationship.

Jrod's avatar

Why does anybody care what Candice Owens thinks or says? Serious question.

Good Humor by CK Steefel's avatar

No one should care. Unfortunately she has millions of followers-- who believe her!

Roberta L's avatar

Not all of her followers believe her. Sometimes it helps to get all points of view before you make up your own mind.

Brian's avatar

Depends on what she thinks. Separate the message from the messenger and use CriticalThinking.

Barry Lederman, “normie”'s avatar

You are correct. The 2016 election was won in the trenches by the blue collar and middle class voters who left the Democratic Party and not by the NYT and pollsters who were 96% wrong. The alternative media is becoming the New MSM living in it’s own lalaland.

Trapped in IL's avatar

They will go to their deaths believing that Biden actually won it fair and square!

PatrickF's avatar

Thank you Robert, for a brilliant and thoughtful comment! I am also here because I admire Sasha's brave voice, but often feel there is still too much attachment to social media and the guardians or engineers of the narrative like the Times. A far better use of our time would be to refer to what Promethean Action is saying about the Trump administration pushing back against the globalists and bringing back the American system of economics which is what will truly make America great again! The time to listen to the corrupt and captive legacy media, Hollywood or other social influencers is long past. We have a chance to save our country and our republic, and that should be our sole focus, not wasting time chasing our tails about the latest gossip or disagreement!

Terese  Miller's avatar

Well said! The majority of the MAGA movement consists of everyday Americans who think independently and with common sense. We don’t decide what or who we support because of prominent voices in media who are always amplifying controversy!

Maurice St. Cloud's avatar

I agree. There’s the show, and then there are actual people. Here in the Midwest, I don’t see division. I see MAGA still MAGA and the independents biding their time quietly (as we are wont to do).

The Trump admin and the Republicans need to deliver on the economy soon. Trumps doing the well -enough, but republicans are still holding out thinking they can weather Trump and then magically get the upper middle class back (the UMC is thoroughly democrat now. The democrats deliver the filthy lucre at least as well as republicans ever did).

The future belongs to Trump if he can deliver jobs with decent pay. It belongs to the democrats if nothing changes - and then it never will. All this other garbage is insiders and influencers, and only comfortable people care about any of it.

Emsrul's avatar

I agree too. I don’t know anyone in my circle who follows any of these people and I have no interest in their petty disputes. These social media creatures exist in a bubble of their own making and their spats are so childlike as to be embarrassing. They have over inflated egos and take themselves so seriously- but to those who live outside that small bubble they are insignificant to our lives. Write about the real world and ignore them!!

Steenroid's avatar

Agree. Most of the true MAGA people don’t waste their time on 💩 like this. I bet the majority don’t give a 💩about Ben or Candice or even Tucker.

Elizabeth Hamilton's avatar

I hope you are right, Robert!!

David White's avatar

The bottom line is this: how many Repos are not going to come out and vote against the Demos? Almost none. A booming economy in 2026 would (in terms of votes) counter-act that. If the Demos win in 2026, it will be because of gerrymandering, not votes. And we really have *no bloody idea* what is going to happen in 2028. There is really no cause for hand-wringing at this point. Maybe later. But not now.

Fra Raymond's avatar

Totally agree.

Sasha - I take political advise on how to vote from Nick, Candace, the imp Ben, Tucker, Alex Jones and anyone else in the social sphere as much as I take political advise from Pedro at my local taco shop. They are good entertainment at best, a nuisance at worst. BTW, I do listen and take political advise from "Ancient Aliens" TV show

Ruth H's avatar

Well said. Thank you.

Hebrides' Eilidh NicDhòmhnaill's avatar

But dear, Sasha does not live in the real world. She’s consumed by conspiracy theories.

Fra Raymond's avatar

which conspiracy theories, plural, are you referring to? BTW Trump won in 2020 - prove me wrong. Just b/c you read it in the media doesn't make it true or false.

Hebrides' Eilidh NicDhòmhnaill's avatar

Trump won in 2016 and 2020 meaning he can’t be president currently, so Kamala won. Gotcha,

Elaine Eike's avatar

Sasha speaks about conspiracy theories but doesn't promote them

Hebrides' Eilidh NicDhòmhnaill's avatar

She has repeatedly promoted the stolen election conspiracy theory, trump’s seditious nonsense that started well before a single vote was cast. That Trump got more votes in 2020 than expected (blue wave in mid terms, low polling, ongoing asinine behavior by Trump ) and top election officials in each and state declaring their results correct, 60 court cases, etc., maga continues to this day needing to believe Trump won, or see their maga fantasy crumbling faster than a Turning Point Speech fest

Elaine Eike's avatar

I don't know where you were during the 20/20 election, but I saw many anomalies that would cause either side to pause and question the election results. Mail-in ballots were pouring in days to weeks after the election; sudden changes in the machine vote counting on election night. Vote watching was prevented from examining the counting; security videos showed outright fraud, mainly in Georgia. And, yes, I believe the election was stolen.

Marilyn's avatar

I totally agree! Watch the documentary 2000 Mules by Dinesh D'Souza.

Hebrides' Eilidh NicDhòmhnaill's avatar

These are not great arguments. Which state allows ballots to be counted weeks after an election? The only state I found that allow mail in ballots to be counted up to 2 weeks after Election Day is NY, which is a dem state anyway. In New York you can have your mail-in (absentee or early mail) ballot counted after Election Day, but only if it was postmarked on or before Election Day and then received within a specific deadline after Election Day. Some states count mail in ballots last. Is there a link re sec videos showing fraud? Would love to know the source(s).

234's avatar

There is NO WAY senile Joe got more votes than Hillary, than Harris, than Trump campaigning out of his basement.

Mail in/ballot harvesting is the total difference.

Gilbert Gatica's avatar

B.A. econ from cal state 1976. Lived through down cycles.and up cycles. "By November 2026..." you said that the economy will be expanding for all to see.

I hope you are correct...but...our economy has not performed well with uncertainty what the federal government will do. With Trump it's all uncertainty and will only get worse.

DarkSkyBest's avatar

For a presidential endorsement to be made detracts from the good this organization does. And will take away from its influence.

In two years the whole country will be so tired of Trump, Don, and Don’s pick — even if we agree with Every One of Trumps policies.

As I type, Trump is announcing the Trump fleet. Not the John Paul Jones fleet. Not the Admiral Anybody fleet. The Trump fleet. Very. Tiring.

Trump is starting to sound like the Mayor of Providence crime-solving.

Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

The New York Times no longer has the power to shape narratives on the right. TPUSA is far more influential than legacy media. NYT has platformed countless conspiracy theorists who forced masks and jabs, can’t define what a woman is, and think windmills will stop climate change.

Lisa's avatar

I think it is important that reporters of a center/right stripe not allow the NYT to set the agenda of what news is important. The Times has chosen to downplay or black out entirely recent stories of great importance. The paper is clearly seeking to carve its own narrative. It has done virtually zero reporting on Covid vaccine injuries, for instance, or the fact that the FBI had a program surveilling sitting U.S. Senators. The billions of dollars stolen from taxpayers in Minnesota, as I mentioned in another comment, needs really detailed examination. How was Walz nominated while this was going on? How did he have time to address putting tampon machines in boys’ bathrooms while citizens of his state were being robbed blind? Every party has some crackpots. I personally think they can become a distraction which the NYT would love.

Petey Kay's avatar

If Trump did nothing else but open our eyes to the massive corruption of our federal government and its NGO's he will have done the Lord's work. We got it from here.

NNTX's avatar

This times 1000X

In the last month the gigantic fraud in Minnesota has been acknowledged, even by the so-called MSM. Current estimate of total fraud from COVID programs plus Medicaid (before housing and SBA figures included) $10 Billion.

And this weekend articles citing estimates of welfare (and other) fraud in CA of $50 Billion

Capture those figures and one does start to approach the $1 Trillion that Elon cited.

People vote with their pocketbooks. The forecast for 2026 is positive—far far better than our European “allies” (though still below China and India GDP). Taking the temperature in March and June is in order for any real predictions re. elections.

John Rogitz's avatar

I would un-person the NY Times. Not worth considering or quoting

Heyjude's avatar

What’s the point of having a big tent if you throw away principles to get the big tent? It’s exactly the same mistake as the left made by catering to insanity to enlarge their coalition.

Bravo to Ben Shapiro for being brave enough to stand up to crazy.

Matt L.'s avatar

Ben Shapiro can stop taking ticket stubs at entrance to the tent. I’m MAGA and didn’t ask him to play gatekeeper. The fracture in the movement if you care to characterize it that way, seems to revolve around whether one passes a particular purity test. I’ll let you guess what that is.

Some on the Right are deploying the same tactics as the Left formerly did. I abhor all forms of cancel culture and coercion of speech.

Michael Lumish's avatar

If the conservative movement insists upon mainstreaming white nationalists and Jew Haters that very definitely leaves me out.

Matt L.'s avatar

I don’t think Jew Hating is being ‘mainstreamed’ on the Right. But I do think Ben just made himself into a polarizing figure to some on the Right. And that’s not good.

Cat C.'s avatar

I don't think Candace Owens or Tucker are "white nationalists" in the bad sense of those words (the REAL and good sense is that if you are white and if you love this nation and want it to always come first, you are a nationalist).

Heyjude's avatar

Is it a purity test to call out crazy ideas?

Matt L.'s avatar

List the crazy ideas. Not the person, the idea. Go.

Heyjude's avatar

Bridget Macron is a man. The Mossad killed Charlie Kirk with inside help from people high up in the TPUSA organization. Candace Owens and her ilk do not represent any ideas I want to be associated with.

Do I understand that people can disagree on some things, while finding common ground on other issues? Sure, in fact that’s good and necessary. But I cannot excuse crazy, ugly ideas for the sake of a bigger tent.

Matt L.'s avatar

What does Bridget Macron have to do with MAGA, and improving the lives of our fellow citizens?

Candace Owens doesn’t represent mainstream MAGA. Let her spew whatever she wants. It’s a free country last time I looked.

I don’t think the Mossad killed Kirk. But I do think there might be connective tissue to Epstein, the Maxwell’s and the Mossad. But right now, it’s smoke without a fires Does holding this speculation make me a nut job?

Forcing people to denounce others is what Mao did during the Cultural Revolution. It’s not necessary.

We are not all going to agree on Israel, either. But also, so what? This is MAGA, not MIGA.

Heyjude's avatar

I agree, Candace Owen’s does not represent mainstream MAGA. And her crazy ideas should be called out, just as we call out the crazy ideas on the left. She is not immune from criticism simply because she calls herself conservative.

Richard's avatar

If you are looking for foreign IC connections to Epstein, you are looking the wrong way. Maxwell's father, the media mogul, was MI6. He suddenly emerged and no one is quite sure where he got the investment capital. I don't think MI6 killed Charlie Kirk either but having them involved with Epstein, as a blackmail conduit is not beyond possibility. Epstein clearly had some attraction to the rich and powerful to have attracted so many of them but why him. There must be a million people with comparable "talents".

Cynicon Implant's avatar

Well, Bridget Macron is a man. And the only thing ugly about that "idea" (actually a fact, not an idea) is that too many people are afraid to acknowledge it because they fear reprisal/shaming. It's the same reason why people believe the "lone gunman" explanation for assassinations.

Richard's avatar

You know me since you have liked my pro Israel comments here about 100 times. I have been pro-Israel since 1967 and nothing they can do is likely to change this. But being pro-Israel does not make me pro Ben Shapiro. He is trying to divide MAGA for his own reasons. Since he doesn't check in with me, I have to assume it is some combination of "better to rule in Hell than serve in Heaven" and pursuing his neocon dreams about forever war.

alpinelake's avatar

Pick a country already. Israel or America. Their wars are bleeding us dry.

Richard's avatar

Pick a country, EU/UK or USA. The former has created the mess that is the Middle East today. And now they are trying to drag us into nuclear war.

Heyjude's avatar

I don’t know what Ben Shapiro’s motives may be. But I think he is right to call out the disturbing elements and outright lunacy that are forming in some circles.

alpinelake's avatar

Ben Shapiro's motive is to keep the Zionist billionaire dollars rolling into his bank account.

Richard's avatar

I don't know either but what would he be doing different if he wasn't trying to fracture MAGA. I have been watching him for years and he is a neocon. I continue to think this is about Europe and not Israel. I can already see other neocons attacking JD.

APriori's avatar

The test of whether or not someone villainizes Jews using false, illogical, unjustified smears and innuendoes is not a “purity test.” It’s a sanity test, and it’s extremely easy for conservatives to pass. All they have to do is not regurgitate Marxist-Islamist anti-Jewish propaganda while claiming to fight Marxists and Islamists. Again, not a hard test.

Matt L.'s avatar

I’m not gonna play in your sandbox. You already called me an antisemite and then deleted your post.

APriori's avatar

I deleted it bc it posted while I had barely started to draft. And ‘my sandbox’ is a framework of facts and logic, so yeah, I’m not surprised you don’t want to play there, you mealy-mouthed antisemite.

Cat C.'s avatar

Cite how you've come to the conclusion, based on facts, that Matt L. is an antisemite.

APriori's avatar

(a) His response to a speech condemning the vilification of Jews is to condemn the condemnation. (b) He literally hasn’t denied being an antisemite, which is the first thing someone would do if they actually opposed antisemitism and were called an antisemite. But he can’t both deny being an antisemite and achieve his obvious aim here, which is to create permission for antisemitism.

None of this should have to be explained.

Tom Kennedy's avatar

What angers some Christians is not Jewish rejection of Jesus as Messiah, but when the history is reduced to something like:

“Jesus was a Jewish guy who got in trouble with the Romans.” Shapiro view.

That phrasing:

Erases the Temple leadership’s role

Minimizes formal charges and trial

Downplays crucifixion as a state execution

Sounds flippant about a death central to Christian faith

It isn’t just theologically offensive — it’s historically thin.

- Why Christians are sensitive here (and rightly so)

Christian teaching — especially since Vatican II (Nostra Aetate) — explicitly rejects:

collective Jewish guilt

blame passed to Jews of any later generation

At the same time, Christianity has never denied:

that certain Jewish leaders sought Jesus’ death

that this occurred through Roman machinery

Both can be true without contradiction.

- A historically honest, non-polemical summary

If someone wants to be accurate and respectful, it should sound like this:

“Jesus, a Jewish teacher, was arrested after accusations by certain Jerusalem Jewish religious leaders (Sanhedrin) and was executed by Roman authority on a charge of claiming kingship.”

That statement:

matches Roman, Christian, and Jewish sources (Josephus)

avoids collective blame

avoids dismissive reductionism

does not require accepting Christian theology

Christians and Jews have learned to live with each other and mocking statements like “Jesus was a Jewish guy who got in trouble with the Romans.” are not helpful.

Matt L.'s avatar

I’m a Christian who treasures the Old Testament almost as much as the New Testament. They go together in mysterious and wonderful ways - and can never, ever be separated. Jesus’ coming was forecasted in the OT Books of Isaiah, Micah and in David’s Psalms. Cristo had to be killed, crucified. There is no blame for this occurring. It simply had to happen. To assign ‘blame’ to it is to question God, Himself and His Sovereignty. Jesus’ death was His Plan in order to bring the Jewish God of Abraham to the rest of the world (Gentiles).

Brian Katz's avatar

I agree 2000%.

The left started small and everyone said don’t worry about it, the numbers are small.

Well, just a few election cycles later, the Democrat Party is a mess because of the excesses of the left.

That fate portends to the Republican Party if it does not purge itself toxic ideas.

Heyjude's avatar

The old saw that you can’t do anything if you don’t get elected is true.

But you also can’t do what you want if you cede your party to crazies in order to get elected. That’s where the old-time liberals find themselves now.

Brian Katz's avatar

Very true.

I’m not certain they feel this way because of, well …. Trump.

alpinelake's avatar

Ben Shapiro is Israel First and should move to Israel. We don't want or need him in America.

Pat Ruckert's avatar

Sasha: I have to agree with Robert Ingraham's comment, and add that Trump had 70 or 80 million votes. Fuentes may have a million or two followers, and most of the audience of Owens and others like her is miniscule. The vast majority of MAGA supporters pay no attention to these people. Fuentes and his followers remind of the Weatherman terrorists of the late 1960s-- a pathetic bunch who quickly destroyed themselves. Meanwhile, while the press played them up for a few months they had no impact politically. And the vast majority of the voters had forgotten about them, if they ever had heard of them. As President Trump begins his tour of the nation with his Presidential campaign rallies, he is already generating the excitement that will ensure victory in the Mid=terms. The American people know that it is what Trump is doing that will transform the nation even more than has been done so far. As factories open, millions gain high wage jobs, inflation disappears, and Trump will drag the insurance companies into his office in a week or two, to shove down their throughs, as he did this past week with the pharma CEOs, dramatic price cuts for the American people. You do not win wars complaing about a few idiots with their nonsence. Nor merely complaining about the enemy. Join with Trump, and get the vote out over the next months, and we shall see a great victory in November.

Deidre K's avatar

Just one caveat- the weatherman are still talked about today. They in fact were the ones who began the entrenched March through our universities with Marxist/activist revolutionary infiltration. I direct result of where our schools stand today. Their self righteous agendas were felt in the 70s and 80s- they were still running cover back then.

Brian Katz's avatar

I believe that you are correct for 2026.

However, the games being played by Tucker Carlson, etc… are for 2028 and beyond.

I don’t like those games and it concerns me a lot.

alpinelake's avatar

No games. It's simple. America First or Israel First. You cannot be for Israel and America both.

Brian Katz's avatar

Yesterday President Trump bombed ISIS in Nigeria who is killing Christians.

Is the policy allowed under the America First regime ?

How about the $90 billion the US spends per year to have troops overseas at US bases around the world ?

Dan's avatar

You’re reading too much into it.

The vast, vast majority of people aren’t paying attention to this, even on the Right. At the rate Candace seems to be going, she’ll have physically manifested the Devil by July. That’s to say, a lot will change and who denounces who right now doesn’t matter.

I’m not sure it will matter in 2026, anyway. If the economy takes off and consumer confidence finally rises, what podcaster hates who will be a silly sideshow next year. People won’t care then just like most don’t care now.

Richard's avatar

Macron is going to wind up with all her money.

Oakley's avatar

Mankind's enemy, the Devil, loves to cause division. Wake up Maga! Fight the enemy, not each other.

Matt L.'s avatar

The ‘enemy’ if you want to frame it up that way — are those who support policies that fracture the nuclear family.

PapayaSF's avatar

Good observations. Of course the legacy media is eager to hype any controversy in or near MAGA in order to sabotage it. (While being reluctant to apply the same level of concern to the wacky radical fringes around Democrats.) The core of MAGA has nothing to do with Israel, Jews, World War II, or Macron’s wife. JD is right about that kind of purity test, especially because the enemies of MAGA don’t really care about anyone's stance on Candace Owens. They’ve already lumped you in with the “fascists,” regardless. There’s no real compromise possible with someone using controversy as a weapon.

Derek Jecxz's avatar

When they killed Charlie I cried. I was driving across Wyoming at the time. I thought about his wife, and his children, their dad now gone; however, I hoped (prayed) their new extended parents, Tucker, Ben, Megyn, and many others, would step up and always remind them their father was a good man. Now that is shattered in my mind.

Ben is a Jew; over 2,000 years of hatred and killing has taught Jews to be ready for the next attacker; well, his eyes are wide open. To him and other Jews, it is only 70 years since WWII, a week since Jews were murdered in Australia, half a year since that BBC concert singer screamed death to the IDF, 10/7, stabbing in Brooklyn, it never ends. Jews live on the knifes edge, difficult for supporting and loving Christians to fathom, although most do, thank G-d. It is black and while for Jews, we must know if you're going to hurt us, or be our friend. To Jews, if Megyn, no matter how much she is loved and respected, cannot fathom this binary, whether she is blinded by her friendship with Tucker or still angry at wrongfully being called antisemitic, then Ben is absolutely correct. And what Megyn said about being mother and child, in reference to Ben, was not only hurtful, it was pure defensive anger, it was something a DEI trans would say, which leads me to conclude Ben was correct.

I have sadly canceled all my subscriptions to Tucker, Candace and now Megyn, I am done with her; for her, the Tucker friendship is obviously very important. For Ben and my people, it is life and death. Every day we Jews walk that fine line around the world. Megyn has said, "It is not antisemitic to criticize Israel." She is absolutely right! However, in saying so, she gives cover to antisemites to safely continue spewing, i.e., "Megyn said I'm not antisemitic." Tucker and Candice's nonstop obsession with Israel, the Jewish home for 3,000 years, smells badly, it crosses the safe line, it warns us, they know it, it brings them Likes (guess why!), they have some anger, and they proudly continue, which makes it worse. They do not have to stop, but we Jews don't need to trust them, and anyone who defends them, hopefully you can understand. I no longer want anything to do with such people, who proudly proclaimed repeatedly the name Jesus, but cannot understand others don't believe and worse, Jews deep down don't trust you because the next Holocaust might be around the next corner, or, at the very least, there is a Jew hater lurking, or a liberal Democrat, waiting to pounce. And it is obvious, if there is another Holocaust, I know Tucker and Candice won't want America to help (again), you know, America first.

Megyn has made it very clear where she stands, and now Jews know (everyone should be fortunate to have a friend like Megyn, who will blindly run into the dumpster fire created by Tucker and Candice). Very sad for me. I'm not even going to dig deeper into the anger she vomited against Bari Weiss, it was ugly.

I'm aware what I wrote might offend, don't worry, I'm not telling you what to think, just sharing, if I am allowed. My words, hopefully, will help others understand that us Jews, we non-Jesus people, want to be friends, however, there is a line we won't cross, for our own safety, as history has taught us, we're ultimately always on our own. If that bothers you, forgive us.

monkey.work's avatar

I’m completely with you on this. I have zero tolerance for bigotry, and I’ve unsubscribed from all of them as well. Tucker occasionally brings on high‑quality guests, but I just can’t deal with the way he frames, or avoids, questions anymore.

And after October 7th, I started hearing the phrase “there’s nothing wrong with criticizing Zionism/Israel” as a coded way of saying “I don’t like Jews,” and that’s where I draw the line.

Derek Jecxz's avatar

I feel the same way 🙏

alpinelake's avatar

You are lying about Tucker. Pick one, America or Israel. You can't have allegiance to both.

Jonah's avatar

Imagine: You're a Jew in 1930s Germany.

You're a World War 1 vet.

You fought for Germany.

But a party comes into power that wants to murder you and your family for being Jews.

Should you stay loyal to Germany?

Derek Jecxz's avatar

He is a Jew hater, demanding Jews abandon their faith and swear allegiance exclusively to the United States, whilst he and his kind, Tucker, would never be asked to disavow their faith to Jesus and Christianity for a secular United States. It is classic Antisemitism now shielded by Megyn Kelly's words that they can demand Jews do something they'd never do. There will always be Jew Haters like this and Megyn, Tucker and Candace confirm their hated.

Elaine Eike's avatar

Done with MK. Some alien creature has taken her over. I no longer know or respect her.

Rooster's avatar

One of the things about the conservative movement, and certainly the Republican Party, is that traditionally we have been extremely transparent. This has been considered by some to be an Achilles heel, as the seemingly corrosive differences of opinion are put on full display.

On the other hand, the Democrats have traditionally been able to keep their internal discord on the down low and present a unified face, seeming always to be in lockstep.

I think it’s much healthier for the differences in any movement or party to be obvious. Sunlight as they say, is the best disinfectant. Honest and open debate, even the starkly vitriolic brand, can serve to be a refresh, and portrays a vitality that the drone-like Democrats do not possess.

I sense that Candace Owens is in the starting stages of a monumental self sabotage, and is exposing herself for the mendacious opportunist that she is, more in pursuit of subscribers than truth. As a one time promising young conservative voice, she’s been a real disappointment for sure, but let the chips fall, and the sooner the better.

Let’s not declare the MAGA sky to be falling just yet. I think there is more that unites us than divides. Let’s trust in the free discussion of ideas, as painful as it can be. It can sharpen arguments, define goals and cull out the dead wood of flawed, less than sincere actors, one of whom Candace has proven herself to be.

alpinelake's avatar

The MAGA sky will fall if people pick Israel over America. Their wars are bleeding us dry.

Rooster's avatar

It’s not a matter of picking Israel over America. That’s a red herring. It’s a matter of understanding that Western Civilization is worth defending and knowing who our allies are in that effort. And besides, so much of the money spent supporting Israel comes back to us. Israeli high tech firms and their innovations have been beneficial not just to us, but the whole world. Certainly we get a better return on those dollars than we will ever get from the 350 billion dollars and counting spent in Ukraine.

Bat Man's avatar

Is there something I'm missing? Just ignore Candice. If asked, "Anti semitism is not a Conservative position".

alpinelake's avatar

Allegiance to another country is not a conservative value either. Pick one, America or Israel.

Bat Man's avatar

Learn the difference between “alegence” and “support”. One can have allegence to the USA and support Israel.

Lisa's avatar

The unfolding situation in Minnesota (see New York Post article today) where more and more billions are being found to be disappeared is what is currently drawing my attention. Governor Walz could have ended up being President. That he was nominated for Vice President without proper vetting is disturbing and to me highlights the collapse of competence in the Democratic Party. I haven’t followed all these squabbles on the right. I don’t even know what is going on, I’ll admit. I wish the press wouldn’t get too much into the weeds. Maybe it’s just me but the press does have more interest in each other than people have in them. Billions of tax dollars have been outright stolen under the eye of the former Vice Presidential nominee. Megyn Kelly and company should focus more on that.

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

IMO Walz was chosen by the idiot Kamala because he was the only one to volunteer.

Richard's avatar

She needed someone that was dumber than her.

Donna C's avatar

We will be divided only if we allow it to happen. I think the bickering at the TPUSA event was ridiculous, but this too shall pass.

Marcie's avatar

It seems to me that none of the commenters or the media have any idea what it is like to suffer the surprise violent loss of a deeply loved person. I sat with a friend who lost a son to an accident for probably a full year once a week for hours. Sometimes she spoke sometimes she didn’t. All these people have suffered deep trauma to one degree or another and the various forms and stages of grief are on national display. Who on earth could expect a grieving widow and friends to behave well or even rationally. People need time to grieve and to understand that others grieve differently and some destructively.

This time next year, God willing and people forgive TPUSA can start putting the pieces back together but it’s unrealistic to expect this to have gone well. And maybe Candace is suffering from postpartum psychosis, it is a real thing.

madaboutmd's avatar

Agree with all of your points. I've said the same about Candace and she needs help sooner than later.

My bother died by suicide when he was 18; he was the 7th of 9 children. My parents were away for the weekend and received a that horrific call at the airport on the red phone (in 1986) on their way home. I got the call many, many states away as I am #3 in the family. The trauma is real. Candace saying this stuff before and now after her conversation with Erika demonstrates a level of depravity that I cannot comprehend.

ToniHartNY's avatar

Sasha, thanks for hanging in there for us.