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Oct 18Edited

Some of my neighbors are going to the No Kings rally near where I live. I just hope there won’t be any violence tomorrow. These people really are possessed. There is some kind of mental illness involved here that they cannot respect the fact that millions of people love Donald Trump, and that he was legitimately elected and has the right to be president for the rest of his term, assuming he stays healthy and capable. I don’t get the urgency that they seem to feel. They are convinced there’s some kind of three alarm fire but I don’t see it and obviously the 75 million people who voted for Trump don’t see it either. If you don’t like him, fine, but it’s gone way beyond simply not liking somebody to the point of some kind of pathological obsession, described as TDS. How can you be considered sane if you go around spitting on people? shooting them dead in the neck? Attacking them when they attend a political rally that they have every right to attend? How about knocking people’s hats off in the street? Not to mention the impeachments and the assassination attempts (we’ve had three— there was an English tourist who tried to grab a guard’s gun at one of the rallies.)

They have become what they claim to hate.

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Kidbuck's avatar

If "We like your work"?

Sasha, we LOVE you and your work❕️🇺🇲💯

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MyOpinion's avatar

You know, there are millions of people who never felt like they fit in or were accepted. Maybe, they've had few friends.

When I was a teenager in jr. high, I ran in a group of about 20 kids. Everything was group think. When I was told a friend of mine hadn't been invited to a surprise birthday party "because she isn't one of us", it shocked me out of my cocoon. From that night on, I knew I had to change my ways.

I've written this before, but I'll write it again. Dr. Drew said that there are psychologists/psychiatrists who have practices specializing in TDS.

I find all of this to be much like what we went through with C-19.

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julia payne's avatar

My question is this: do the psychologists/psychiatrists who specialize in TDS try to heal their patients of this disordered thinking? Or are they recruiting more folks to have it?

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Tom Servo's avatar

They believe their job is to reinforce it. These people are truly insane. I have a PhD, and when I was in graduate school, I was in classes with these lemmings. A buddy of mine, a fellow conservative, and I would just sit amazed at the stupidity that came out of these peoples' mouths.

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julia payne's avatar

That is what i suspected...similar to gender "affirming" care.

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David Scott's avatar

Anyone seeing a psychiatrist for anything is out of their mind (no pun). Psychiatry is a pseudoscience. Ever seen a (male) psychiatrist that you could admire as a man?

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Brian M's avatar

Totally agree. There might be a place for a psychiatrist, which is who can prescribe medication, if one is suffering from anxiety or depression which are treatable by a properly trained psychiatrist. My wife has had zero success with any psychologist and their "talk therapy". It is a waste. They are never going to find anything about you you don't already know. Worse, they can stir up memories carefully suppressed to protect life.

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Tom Potts's avatar

What people need is a solid and true Christian Pastor or Othodox Jewish Rabbi

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Cat C.'s avatar

There's been some evidence of "talk therapy", plus getting off junk food, plus exercising doing a world of good....but I bet it's the extroverts who do well with this because it's been proven that they tend to do their "thinking" and sorting out of stuff, while they are talking (and they usually love to talk) and we are, more and more, a non-talking society - it's all short texts, short voice mails, etc. so maybe it's good for them to talk - BUT it doesn't have to be with a therapist, psych doc, etc.

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madaboutmd's avatar

Rosie O'Donnell's therapist told her she needed to move on from her TDS! So there's one who didn't reinforce.

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Tom Servo's avatar

The exception that proves the rule, lol

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Brian M's avatar

Do PhD candidates even attend "classes"? I thought it was all personal research and working with mentors to write a doctorate thesis paper

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Tom Servo's avatar

Yes, it's a combination of coursework and writing the dissertation. In my program, it was about two years of courses in research methods, seminars, etc., and then a couple of years of research and writing for the dissertation. I went full-time and was able to finish in a little less than four years by going summers.

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Will Whitman's avatar

Intersectional psychology aims to increase the understanding of how we are shaped by the interaction of different factors and that these occur within connected systems and structures of power.

Voila, it's all Trump's fault!

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julia payne's avatar

It's a mind virus that is spreading worldwide, particularly recently in canada

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Brian M's avatar

The complaints of the Left are not about Trump. He is just the pinata of the day. That is why this is a global protest. It is about the Western value system in place since the Reformation in the 1700s that is how we got the American Constitution, the ideals of our individual freedoms and capitalism as our economic system. The Left rejects all of that, everywhere, and seeks to embrace the many-times-failed Communist system. It sounds easy and good and it has been too long since its last major failure in World War 2 for people to remember the outcome of that social and economic system, which kills millions to achieve its objectives. We are destined to repeat history. We never learn.

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julia payne's avatar

Esp since these protestors have been taught a completely false narrative about history, socialism and communism....of course history will repeat itself.

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Joe Cogan's avatar

What “major failure in World War 2” was that? The Soviet Union was not only largely responsible for defeating Nazi Germany, but waltzed away with most of Eastern Europe as a prize.

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Will Whitman's avatar

I feel for you up there in Canada - soft totalitarianism from the top on down.

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julia payne's avatar

Soft...but working hard to get stronger every day! With the endorsement of at least half the population.

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MyOpinion's avatar

It's a retraining of the brain kind of thing. Dr. Drew told all about it.

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Cat C.'s avatar

CBT and Exposure therapy.

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Cat C.'s avatar

CBT: Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I might have to look that up, possibly YouTube?

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Steenroid's avatar

Why would they heal them and lose their income. Obviously you don’t under how therapy works.

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julia payne's avatar

Yeah...no kidding

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Cat C.'s avatar

20 - 30 or so years ago, there we some who would work for you to no longer need them. It's just like the dentist that will let your teeth rot before saying "well, if you ARE brushing twice a day and flossing, you're probably brushing too quick and need to take more time" - they'd rather not ruffle feathers and be paid filling all the cavities.

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DK's avatar

Trump Dickriding Syndrome?

MAGA agenda:

- racist pro-Hitler chat groups

- Muslim airbase in Idaho

- $50+ billion Argentina bailout while cutting US healthcare

- Trumpflation tariffs destroying our jobs, farms, construction, and tourism

- masked ICE goons shooting praying clergy and terrorizing children

- mass firings

But won't fund American healthcare, release the Epstein files that show more Trump child abuse, or cancel loan debt. Conservatives = America Last.

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julia payne's avatar

Wow! Looking forward to what others have to say about your views! I'll keep my mouth shut about this one.

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John Bevevino's avatar

I’d say you were an excellent candidate for psychiatric therapy, but as a leftist you’re probably already being treated.

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DK's avatar

Who cares what you'd say? You're a low IQ rightwing loon who voted for a fat, incompetent orange thug and pedophile who:

Leads a party of pro-Hitler text chats

Hides the Epstein files because he's in them

Implementated an unnecessary tariff Trumpflation trade war that has unemployment at a 5-year high

Incited a terror attack on Congress

Is killing jobs, farms, construction, and tourism with mass deportation and tariff taxation

Has electricy bills skyrocketing due to the cutting of green energy

Cuts Americans’ healthcare while sending billions in bailouts to Argentina

Is building a Muslim airbase in Idaho

Illegally warmongers by bombing Venezuela

Deploys the US military against US citizens

Deports legal migrants to torture camps without 5th Amendment due process

Tries to use the FCC to silence critics in violation of the 1st Amendment

Has masked ICE goons shooting praying clergy and zip-tying children

You have zero decency, no morals, no integrity, and no credibility. Typical unpatriotic America Last Rethuglikkklan fraud.

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John Bevevino's avatar

Thank you for confirming.

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Cat C.'s avatar

Wow, what lies and what utter derangement. The cutting of healthcare is cutting FOR Argentinians and others who are here illegally.

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DK's avatar

The illegal is Epstein-bestie pedophile and convicted felon Trump.

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John Bevevino's avatar

Many in the psychiatric profession appear to favor coddling and encouragement as they’ve largely done for the gender dysphoria crowd, rather than the tough love that’s needed.

To fix it will require fixing the psychiatric educational system first. That’s going to be a long haul.

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julia payne's avatar

yeah, tough love is totally over. like what abour mom or dad saying: you are not a boy...get over it.

and sometimes just asking why do they want to be a boy (or girl). our daughter wished she was a boy when she was 14...and yes, she was a tomboy...i asked her why...she said because they get to do all the really fun stuff! and then her hormones kicked in and all she wanted to be was a mom...good thing we didn't let her cut off all her fun parts...she's the best mom of 3 almost-grown fabulous people.

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Rick's avatar

Most “counselors “ don’t want to “fix” the client. That would stop the payments. “Well good, we’re making progress. See you next week, same time. Same payment. We can advance the ball another inch”

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julia payne's avatar

If this was not so true, it would be laughable

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Too Loose Low Trek's avatar

The latter.

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Stephen Carter's avatar

Great post! It will likely become an item in psychiatric practice, the curious case of TDS becoming an observable cognitive/behavioral disorder that gradually takes over a personality, & which can be easily triggered into control of the personality before receding again for a time. It also seems to be aided by group dynamics, making the TDS-dominance mode seem justified & normal & necessary. This will be the true road to authoritarianism in the US, because they'll never stop. They can't. It's become part of this disorder that they cannot back down or reflect on what's happened, on what they've become.

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JoshTul's avatar

It’s Misandry mostly

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PKsweets's avatar

It’s a money mill of boomer nut jobs that can’t turn the channels from MSNBC or

CNN

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MyOpinion's avatar

They aren't boomers. More like 30's to 40's.

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PKsweets's avatar

I just see more boomers—

Maybe the TDS prematurely ages them😊

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Nancy and Paul's avatar

I agree even though I am a boomer but I would never watch cnn or msnbc. I talk to people my age and am appalled at how deranged they sound about DJT. I hope there’s another red wave next month.

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NWCitizen's avatar

Richard Hanania is a right wing writer who who as a young man espoused extreme views, including racism and misogyny, but later denounced them. He then wrote a book "The Origins of Woke: Civil Rights Law, Corporate America, and the Triumph of Identity Politics" where he decried DEI but has recently written an article where he exposes the faults of the Trump cult:

https://www.richardhanania.com/p/what-i-got-wrong-about-trump/comments

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MyOpinion's avatar

I found it interesting to learn you have been anti-Trump ever since 2023 when he wasn't even in office.

Someone called you a troll early on. I knew you weren't a troll, because our conversations have been thoughtful and respectful.

Having said that, I'm done. You and I are on different pages when it comes to Trump.

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NWCitizen's avatar

I have been anti-trump since his first-term. Trump never shut up and constantly held rallies from 2020-2024. It is hopeful that a right winger can come to his senses and see Trump for what he is. It's interesting that you call people opposed to trump "mentally ill" but are offended when someone talks about the "trump cult"

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John Bevevino's avatar

There’s a vast difference between someone, “opposed to Trump”, and the vile vitriol of the TDS afflicted.

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NWCitizen's avatar

Did you hear the comment White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt made on Fox News on Oct. 16, "This interview proved that the Democrat Party's main constituency are made up of Hamas terrorists, illegal aliens and violent criminals." Sounds like HRC's "deplorables" moment.

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Cat C.'s avatar

You've out and out called those who support Trump AS PRESIDENT (not "friend", "mentor", "scholar", etc.) as Nazis, etc. That's not "thoughtful dialogue".

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NWCitizen's avatar

When did I do that? I called the people (trump supporters) who organized the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville 2017 "neo-nazis and white supremacists" because that's what they were. Remember the Tiki March when the Neo-nazis marched while chanting Nazi slogans?

Remember Trump's use of Hitler rhetoric from a Veteran’s Day speech, 2023 saying, “We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like VERMIN within the confines of our country.”? More examples of Trump using Nazi rhetoric from Apr 2024: “The Democrats say, ‘Please don’t call them animals. They’re humans. I said, 'No, they're not humans, they're not humans, they're animals,’”

Trump made comments about migrants entering the United States that echoed Hitler's Nazi propaganda: “Nobody has any idea where these people are coming from, and we know they come from prisons. We know they come from mental institutions and insane asylums. We know they're terrorists. Nobody has ever seen anything like we're witnessing right now. It is a very sad thing for our country. It's POISONING THE BLOOD of our country.

In “Mein Kampf “Chapter 11 titled, "Nations and Race," Hitler wrote the following:

"All great cultures of the past perished only because the originally creative race died out from BLOOD POISONING."

Trump is constantly calling democrats Communists, Marxists, fascists, sick etc as in the comment above. I am always civil but am frequently called names in responses to my comments on right wing sites.

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Brandy's avatar

Please. Hanania also advocated for sleeping with girls as young as 14. He got outed. He didn’t out himself.

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NWCitizen's avatar

When he was young he was a racist and misogynist which he has supposedly denounced. Anyway, he wrote an excellent article about Trump & his cult.

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RSgva's avatar

The “three alarm fires” that we DO have are ones that they conveniently ignore: the debt they ran up during Covid, the inability of working families to cope with the high costs of living, excess immigration, the criminals taking over our cities, the weakening of our police forces, our younger generation handicapped by medical interventions and poor schooling etc.

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Brian M's avatar

All alarms are related. COVID was a convenient excuse to experiment with communism (top down social control and handing out of money to placate the people). Printing money to hand out results in inflation and causes businesses to fail thereby causing families to cope with a high cost of living. The riots caused by the Democrats' totalitarian regime caused the police forces to push back and therefore gain the animosity of the same Left that wants security forces under their own control to enforce the restrictions of their Communist regime. All things are related.

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NWCitizen's avatar

Stone forgot to mention disturbing, outrageous things Trump has done since he won a second term. Here are a few of them:

Saying he intends to be president after 2028.

ICE – rounding up thousands of people here illegally with no regard to whether they have committed other crimes in the US and shipping them to a brutal prison in El Salvador or even Africa. Trump even wants President Bukele to build more prisons for US citizens.

Conducting a military style raid using armed federal agents rappelling from helicopters onto the roof of a five-story building in Chicago. The agents worked their way through the building, kicking down doors and throwing flash bang grenades, rounding up adults and screaming children alike, detaining them in zip-ties and arresting dozens. When is he going to declare martial law?

Using the military to invade US cities to “crush violent radical left terrorism.” He claims Portland is a "burning hellhole," with "premeditated anarchy that has scarred the city for years" pointing to videos from the BLM protests in the summer of 2020 which ended at the end of the summer and have not been repeated. BTW, no buildings in Portland were burned down in 2020 although there were garbage can fires in the streets. The BLM protests were in the response to the death of George Floyd by a police officer kneeling on his neck while he was on his belly with hands behind his back unable to inflate his lungs, which followed in the wake of well publicized murders of Breonna Taylor and Ahmaud Arbery.

Hegseth: Whitewashing the Pentagon database in the name of removing DEI even trying to eliminate black Medal of Honor winners. Gathering all the generals together for a giant photo op as he preached to them about their hair and weight and proclaimed that the US military is no longer bound by any standards of decency in warfare.

RFK, Jr: Appointing this crackpot as head of DHS who wants to do away with vaccines (Trump just had his flu and Covid vaccine in his health check-up), defund cancer and other medical research. He supposedly wants to change unhealthy habits of Americans in diet and lifestyle although Republicans ridiculed and despised Michelle Obama when she tried the same thing.

The shutdown: Spouting constant lies about the US providing illegal immigrants with free medical care to justify the government shutdown. Vance claims most of the people treated in ERs are illegals blocking Americans’ access to treatment. Under Reagan, the US passed a law that ERs are required to stabilize anyone who comes to the hospital with a life threatening condition so we do not allow people to die in the street in front of hospitals who cannot afford care as in third-world countries. Other than that, the US does not spend federal funds on health care for illegals, although the Mega bill would eliminate heath insurance for thousands of US citizens.

DOJ: Using the DOJ to attack his political enemies. Today his press secretary Leavitt said, “The Democrat Party's main constituency is made up of Hamas terrorists, illegal aliens, and violent criminals." Sounds like HRC's "deplorables moment.

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MyOpinion's avatar

It's interesting you bring up ICE. Let me tell you what happened a mile from us. An illegal had come into the country through the TX border twice. On his third trip, he was in CA living in a homeless camp one mile from where we live. I got an urgent alert on my phone. The woman told neighbors on Nextdoor that her nanny and 2 young kids were being stalked by a guy on a bike and there were videos of him. Neighbors scared him away and cops were calls. Cops are city, do arrests, then take them to the county jail. The county REFUSED to notify ICE and released him back into our neighborhood. A very, very few months later, he broke into a woman's home (a mile from us), didn't just kill her in her bed with a knife, but came very close to decapitating her. Her son had to leave his home in another city to ID her body; the murder caused her mom to have a stroke. When the local news reported the murder they didn't call him a migrant, illegal migrant or even homeless. They called him a CAMPER. IF the county had done their job, that woman would be alive today.

Did you have a problem when Clinton was deporting so many, even if they had a green card?? My partner almost got caught up in that. Clinton said, even if they had a green card, people can be deported. We immediately went to the Federal bldg, stood for hours,,and she did what she had to do to become a full-fledged US citizen.

I mean no disrespect whatsoever, but your hatred for Trump is lost on me. None of this would be going on if ICE would be able to do their job according to the immigration laws that have been on the books ever since Clinton. I KNOW. We LIVED it!!

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Sally DiMartino's avatar

Yikes, awful. The Democrats anger is misplaced, they should direct it towards the Biden administration, who is responsible for this mess. They invited millions of people to come here and gave them false hopes that it would all work out. Even Bill Clinton said this level of illegal immigration is destabilizing.

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MyOpinion's avatar

It was even worse, in my opinion. It's one thing to do something without knowing the ramifications, but idiots Biden and Harris KNEW what they were doing. In fact, Harris has said being illegal isn't a crime. It was even quoted in archived newspapers I'm privileged to read..ALL of this lies squarely on their shoulders.

In high school, we had a teacher who let kids do, and act, however they wanted to be. The teacher got sick and had to take a leave the rest of the year. We got a new teacher and the kids hated her because she was having us follow the rules, behave, and not go rogue. She was one of the teachers I ended up admiring and learning from her.

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julia payne's avatar

One tiny correction...biden did not know what he was doing. He was an empty suit from day one, doing what he was told. I wonder who was in charge? If it was the 20-something DEI hires, that would explain a lot. But we know there was a puppet master...guess who it was

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Notes from the Under Dog L.'s avatar

That was Obama's third term, and everyone ought to know it.

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Michael's avatar

My complaint is the media spins everything. It's like they are the propaganda ministry for the Democratic Party.

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Brian M's avatar

Joe Biden was a zombie that the Obama team could control and endorse all the crazy ideas that Obama and his academic theorists had for America. Obama wanted to make America in his father's image, that of a communist and Muslim society. Much was done by Obama to undermine the American experiment in personal freedom and independence. We may not be able to get the genie back in the bottle

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Mimzy Borogroves's avatar

A perfect example of what's happening now. Democrats have refused to enforce morals, ethics or laws. And now that we have a president and his staff who have rules and requirements, some people, including the Pentagon media arm, act like spoiled children. Veruca Salt is an apt comparison.

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MyOpinion's avatar

Exactly! It's like this. Kids give their mommies a rough time while daddy is at work. Daddy comes home and everything changes, because a more grown up person has entered the home who has rules.

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Cranky Frankie's avatar

Electoral college math and Congressional apportionment are based on the "whole number of persons" present in each state. Gerrymandering at the national level requires bodies from somewhere. To get them just advertise "sanctuary."

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MyOpinion's avatar

I never thought of that, but you are right. Just say you are a sanctuary state.

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Cat C.'s avatar

And now they are in shock and terrified that our laws are being followed! Because if a "non-criminal" illegal alien (note that they probably have fake/stolen I.D. and that is a felony) is allowed to stay, why can't I steel an old car - after all, it's not a newer car?. I squarely blame that shock and being terrified on DEMOCRATS.

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Notes from the Under Dog L.'s avatar

Yes. It looks awful on the screen, but illegal is illegal and that's all there is to it. There have been sweeps of illegals for all my adult life; I'd come to work at the restaurant and all the busboys would be gone. Three weeks later, they'd be back (ha ha). Took a bus over the border, ICE got on and took people off.

And why does the US owe the world "a better life," that we have to pay for by sitting for hours waiting to be seen in an ER crammed to the gills with illegal immigrants, only to be turned away because we don't have insurance?

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MyOpinion's avatar

I was sent to ER once by a doctor. The wait was never more than an hour for anyone I knew. My partner and I sat there for FIVE hours?? Why? Parents (legal or not) brought their kids to ER for a colds. Oh, we did have to wait because someone was brought in because they were shot by a gang member....

Let me tell you about my partner. She worked for an electronics firm for 25 years. She was best friends with the assistant to the manager and she was told things. My partner would tell me this (this was during Clinton). It was "illegal" to hire illegals, but this firm did it anyway. My partner would come home and say (more than once), "I haven't been seeing Jose Gomez for a couple of weeks and thought he quit. He came back today with a totally different name." I watched and listened carefully. I said, "They are going to let you and others go so they can hire more illegals for less money." She didn't believe me. No more than 2 weeks later that is exactly what they did.

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Notes from the Under Dog L.'s avatar

Oh yes, absolutely. And guess who sucks up all of our tax money with their shootings, and setting their apartments aflame, and all manner of incapacity to live peacefully...

Meanwhile, I have a friend who's living in constant pain, needs treatment just to stand up and load her father into his wheelchair....and the insurance company responds that it's not necessary...

And literally, any time I visited an ER, it was overwhelmed with people who are not FROM HERE.

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MyOpinion's avatar

After retiring, I did a TON of things to our home....plumbing, etc. I was at Home Depot at least 4 times a day/night and loved it. I decided to work at HD part-time. One of THE best places to find illegals is that they sit on the curb of the parts of the parking lot and ask for work.

I have asked this of people who complain about ICE picking up so many people at a time: "Have you ever gone fishing? If so, did you cast your line in a lake where there were few fish or in a stream where there were a lot of fish?" They'd answer, "Where there were a lot of fish." I say, "There ya go."

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Mimzy Borogroves's avatar

When Dallas NGO's brought in illegal aliens from Venezuela they put them in a suburban far north Dallas apartment complex. Having not be vetted TdA was embedded and proceeded to terrorize people with break ins, beatings, car thefts and stashing junked cars along suburban streets, some near schools. As a result long time residents moved, homelessness increased and illegal noisy parking lot parties went on all night scaring shop owners into moving as well. The legacy has been multiple food trucks all selling the same food at the same intersection-most likely without health permits.

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Mimzy Borogroves's avatar

Sweatshops are not uncommon means of human trafficking. This is how those who cannot afford the passage cartels charge, which is in the thousands of dollars. Human trafficking takes other forms. Dallas police broke up some "tub clubs" in Koreatown that were cover for prostitution using girls, some underage, from Asia. Many of them came via Canada on a visitors visa and overstayed. Same result. Employers need to have more skin in the game. The riot that started in LA was caused when the SEIU union boss sounded an alarm. At some point this union is making money from the companies that hire illegal immigrants for lower than union scale under the table. That raid, incidentally was not by ICE but by the IRS for failure to file employment taxes and social security. And that is what is happening in many industries-the employers make more because they don't have to pay their legal share into these programs. There should be jail time for this.

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MyOpinion's avatar

Exactly right! Remember the "farmers"'Newsom was trying to protect? I delved into the pit farms. On at least 2 occasions, the farms donated $1,250 to him. I'm positive there was more, but I had the info I needed..

I had no idea it was the IRS. Very interesting. SEIU is all over CA.

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Brian M's avatar

The irony is that what the Left wants makes every American poorer by sharing the "pot". This happens overtly, by cramming more people into schools, housing and hospitals. Food is more expensive because there are more mouths to feed with a fixed food supply. It also happens covertly by creating the main force of the inflation we have contended with the past several years. Giving people, and illegal immigrants, money and other resources, comes at the expense of printing, or devaluing, the currency. That means everything costs more in dollar terms because so many more people are getting dollars without commensurate increases in production. It is basic economics. Now, the Left protests the very higher living costs their policies have created. Electing Mamdani will just double down on making things more expensive in New York City. People should be required to take economics to become American citizens and vote

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Leslie Anne's avatar

Just by crossing the border 'ILLEGALLY' is a Federal Crime! So if you crossed our order without permission/authorization that makes you a CRIMINAL.

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MyOpinion's avatar

Well, tell that to Kamala. She doesn't believe it. It took us TEN YEARS to undo some of the things she didTO CA.

I have followed her career ever since she became a DA in San Francisco. I literally know more about her than she knows about herself and mine are all facts...if you ever have an opportunity to watch the debate between Biden, Harris and Tulsi, everything Tulsi said came from me. I gave her a LOT of info that no one could refute. She was flawless in her execution. Kamala's campaign imploded, no donations and she dropped out..I did even more this last election. I actually went after her and Walz. I had so much info on Walz (with proof) I posted that he was began being investigated as a CCP operative and a possible National security risk.

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Cat C.'s avatar

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! Yes, we have a lot of "keyboard warriors" who have helped over the years to save our republic! I've been on Twitter for 10 years and commented on other platforms for 20 years.....

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Cat C.'s avatar

Well, I think it's a felony if you cross illegally and then stay, not if you cross and immediately go back, as in "My bad, I made a wrong turn at the border and meant to stay in Mexico" - that's a misdemeanor and that's what Dems say constantly - "It's only a misdemeanor" ....which they won't admit that those that STAY illegally, as illegal aliens, are committing felonies, especially since they then get fake/stolen I.D.s so they can work!

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NWCitizen's avatar

Undocumented immigrants are not legally permitted to receive Social Security benefits, and few actually do. When you apply for a job, you’re required to provide your SSN so employers and employees can pay the payroll taxes that are used to fund the program. Undocumented immigrants, who don’t have SSN, may choose to use an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) or may even use a fake SSN to pay payroll taxes. Even though undocumented immigrants are legally required to pay taxes, those who use an ITIN to do so cannot receive SS retirement benefits. Even those who use a fake SSN may not receive retirement benefits since they don’t have tax forms that match up with an existing SSN..

Undocumented immigrants help fund Social Security because their contributions provide extra cash flow to the system and they paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022.

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NWCitizen's avatar

True they broke the law. If you lived in poverty surrounded by violence, would you be tempted to cross a border where you could have a decent life or find work to send money back to your family? Most are not violent criminals.

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Cat C.'s avatar

Nobody is saying that they don't have reasons for coming here, but NO ONE will want to be in our republic at the rate that we are going....we are losing our freedoms, liberties, culture, community and economy very quickly. The other day, the comments thread on a London, England website said "Hold on, don't give up now, things are changing and soon the whites will die and we'll have power over everything, so just keep going because they'll die soon, which will be good for all of us" - it was from an Indian, speaking to the Indians in London. That's not traditional Western civilization culture which is "love God and love your neighbor as yourself/Do unto others has you'd have them do unto you", it's Eastern culture of "dog eat dog, every person for themselves, knock out others before you get knocked out, back-stab and lie if you have to". Just remember that the lifeboat can only take so many people......we have too many here and they need to go back to their home country and fight to make their home country better, like we fought so many years ago, here.

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I was teaching in San Antonio in the barrio in the mid-late 80's. The authorities would come into the school and take the children who were here illegally and no one blinked.

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This was before Reagan's and Congress' amnesty had really kicked in....That's when illegals started flooding across the border. I worked at a small farm in CA also in the mid-late 80's and knew the payroll amounts and the farm field workers (legal residents/citizens) who picked the produce didn't get paid much less than me, and I was in the front office in charge of answering calls and doing produce inventory and had an AA degree at the time. When they all started flooding across, it lowered their pay (and all of our pay, over time).

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Yes, ICE practices now-however distasteful-are the same of those of its predecessor, INS for the past 30 years at least. They have always had an “efficient“ approach to getting out illegal immigrants. It’s just now that those practices are getting scrutinized as though they were new.

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MyOpinion's avatar

EXACTLY!! But things have ramped up like nothing else ever has. It's this doxxing bit., The ONLY reason they want masks off is to get their photos, names, etc., to dox them by learning their addresses. Some of these ICE can't even go home to their wives/husbands/kids now.

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Bidman's avatar

ICE wouldn't have that job to do if Biden spelled Obama hadn't opened the borders wide for one and all to come in.

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NWCitizen's avatar

Obama deported many illegals,

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Bidman's avatar

Yes and then by working behind the scenes, so Biden would be blamed, he opened the border to allow 10-20 mil back in.

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CMC's avatar

Thank you for pointing out your actual lived experience!

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David Ross's avatar

Well said...

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NWCitizen's avatar

Sorry to hear about your close encounter with this illegal. Does this mean all illegals are bad including ones who have lived, worked and paid taxes in the US for years?

Obama deported many illegals because he was trying to obey the law, but did not send them to brutal foreign prisons or Africa.

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MyOpinion's avatar

Obama sent them to Mexico and the Central American countries of Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador.

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"Saying he intends to be president after 2028."

Let's start here. Did you have a problem with Obama when he said he'd be up for a third term if he could be in his sweats with an earpiece in his ear dictate what he wanted to have done.

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Kidbuck's avatar

Please try to ignore this nwcitizen.

It's just a Troll

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Dunboy2020's avatar

Agreed. But even if serious, it shows the left has absolutely no sense of humor.

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Pacificus's avatar

NW is not a "troll." She presents another point of view that we should consider. and then duly respond to. She is not trying to "troll" (or irritate for the sake of irritation) us.

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MyOpinion's avatar

I never felt she was troll.

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Tom's avatar

He did what he said he would do with the Biden Presidency.

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Rick's avatar

Trump trolls better than professional trollers. Only someone very far gone with TDS rakes it seriously. Get a life for crying out loud loud.

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MyOpinion's avatar

I LOVE Trump's trolling!! I love his humor, particularly when Dems don't get it. I've come to the conclusion Dems have no humor.

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NWCitizen's avatar

Obama jokingly delivered this answer during an interview with Stephen Colbert on "The Late Show With Stephen Colbert," in which the former commander-in-chief had laughed and smiled prior to and during his remarks.

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MyOpinion's avatar

Jokingly? Don't let the smile fool you. He's worked behind the scenes for almost a decade.

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NWCitizen's avatar

Did Obama run for a 3rd term?

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MyOpinion's avatar

He didn't have to run openly.

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Jen Todd's avatar

Still clinging to the desperately hopeless wet dream that is hAtE TrUmP? Perhaps you should have spent more time actually knowing what you're talking about before unloading the usual, predictable, desperate screed regurgitated ad nauseum by a psychotic, out of touch Democrat party that is too stupid to comprehend how truly embarrassing their toddlerism has become. Time for a diaper change.

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Do people here illegally have a legal right to remain? Put another way why shouldn't those here illegally be deported? Why were the borders opened in the first place?

What exactly makes a person MAGA?

What is worse: a person who voted for trump or a person who supports hamas? How many in the streets today support hamas and hate israel. Same question for all who will vote Mamdani.

Do you view yourself first and foremost are citizen of the US or a citizen of the world.

If you proclaim you love america please explain why and if so do you view America as systemically racist and if so how could you love America ( if it were systemically racist i would not love it nor would many here)

Are the Palestinians systemic jew haters?

These are the kinds of questions and feelings those of us ask and have who will be enjoying our weekends without all the performative theater ( much of which is being financed by the usual america hating subjects).

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NWCitizen's avatar

Many right wingers are ignorant of black history in the US especially during the Jim Crow era when blacks were treated with contempt and discriminated against in housing, jobs, and education. After WWII, the GI Bill was instituted to benefit the soldiers who fought for America with college education being the most popular benefit. Black soldiers were largely excluded from the benefits including education because most colleges admitted few or no blacks. The only colleges they could attend were HBCUs which were small, underfunded, and had limited courses of study. The GI Bill had an enormous impact on American Society, both in bringing unprecedented prosperity to white America while widening the economic and educational gap between blacks and whites. Millions of white veterans upgraded their working-class skills and created the white middle class, setting the expectation that their children would follow in their footsteps of obtaining a college degree and well-paying job. There were no such expectations for black children. The investment of the US in the education of white veterans led to an increase in American productivity, and a technological revolution in electronics, computers, aeronautics, media, and business which ultimately gave rise to the Space age. Blacks were excluded.

My schools in VA were not integrated until 1968 when I was in 8th grade. Many blacks are alive who experienced the Jim Crow era. I do not believe racism disappeared over night when Civil Rights passed in 1964; in fact, it still persists. It doesn't make me hate America; it is just one of many problems that the US needs to solve.

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Everyone from my mom on up for generations were born and raised in the Deep South. Want to talk about blacks and Dems?

Civil War: Dems

KKK: Dems

Slavery: Dems

Black Code: Dems

Against voter rights: Dems

Jim Crow: Dems

Opposed Civil Rights: Dems

Anti-Reconstruction: Dems

Hiring practices: Dems

As a side note, MLK Jr. was a Republican.

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It's true that historically Dems were the party of slavery & Jim Crow. After JFK’s assassination, LBJ gave a speech saying that to honor JFK he would get the Civil Rights Act passed which he did, going against racist southern democrats of his own party. He also passed the Voting Rights Act in 1965, the Fair Housing Act in 1968 and nominated Thurgood Marshall to the SCOTUS in 1968. TODAY, the south is Republican, Democrats elected the first African-American president, the KKK endorsed Trump, the “Unite the Right” ally was organized by far right white supremacists and neo-nazis who LOVE Trump and voted for him. He put them in his WH (Bannon & S. Miller) and avoided denouncing racism except after a public outcry. Stephen Miller wants to change the government's interpretation of Civil Rights-era laws to focus on "anti-white racism" rather than discrimination against people of color.

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I'm always interested when someone says Obama was the first black Pres, Kamala says she the first black woman VP, etc. The truth of the matter is Obama was the first biracial POTUS & Kamala was the first biracial VP.

Let me put it in this ridiculous way. I tell my family I'm going to go buy us a chocolate pie. I get home and they open the box. My family says, "Hey! You told us you were getting a chocolate pie. Instead, you brought home a pie that is 1/2 chocolate and 1/2 vanilla. What gives?" That's the case with Obama, but it's worse with Kamala, I already knew she is only 1/8 black, but she actually says it on video.

The reason it bothers me is that no 100% black man or woman will ever be able to say they are the rightful "first".

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Bannon and s. Miller are NOT neo-nazis and/or white supremacists. That's an out and out slander and lie. He's never said (and would be fully and completely against) he wants "changing the government's interpretation of the Civil Rights' era laws to focus on 'anti-white racism' rather than discrimination against 'people of color'" - FIRST OFF, we all have COLOR and any color can discriminate against any other color! That's what Miller rightly believes. "All men are created equal" - SOUND FAMILIAR? BTW, REPUBLICANS and Independents also voted for Obama and I would have, but I didn't fall for his charms and did research on him and found out he was a communist/socialist.

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FYI: Senator Robert Byrd was one of Biden's very close friends and Biden spoke at his funeral. Senator Byrd had been a member of the KKK.

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AND, I might add, black men turned away from Obama when he chastised them for not considering voting for Kamala because she's black.

Want to know a fact. I know who all of her ancestors were. When KH ran for DA, she ran as Asian. Fast forward to the election, two black men asked her if she was black and dodged the question. They asked the question again and she dodged it. The third time she didn't say yes or no. She asked, "You know the 1/8 rule, right?" I would have to go back to my records, but she is either 1/8 or 1/16 black.

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"the KKK endorsed Trump, the “Unite the Right” ally was organized by far right white supremacists and neo-nazis who LOVE Trump and voted for him"

ANYONE can endorse ANYONE and it can mean nothing. What I can tell you is Trump is far from being a racist. I can tell you stories of things he's done for blacks before he ever entered politics. During his first four years, blacks had record low black unemployment and past the First Step Act, funding for historically Black colleges and universities, opportunity zones and criminal justice reform.

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Clarity Seeker's avatar

You are correct on the many historical points you make. I am am a registered independent not a right winger as you imply. So watch out for labeling and assumptions. I think all history should be taught : the good the bad the ugly. I think blacks who experienced jim.crow webt through much degradation. I don't even mind discussing some form of reparations (limited not trillions as argued). But not for those who did not si suffer. Lets remember when Jim crow laws disappeared and lets alsi not ignore the great society programs thst spent and arguably wasted trillions.

Now lets talk about today. Are many racist? You bet. But lets be honest. The racist class includes both whites and blacks notwithstanding the pedantic attempts in schools and d colleges to argue or reach otherwise.my definition is quite simple: some one who hates another based on skin color or views the other as inferior.

My main point regarding racism was that while systemic racism existed as you noted in the past it does not today . there is no de jure racism. Again people may be racists but the system is not. If there is a system today that one might deem racist it is our putrid education system that in my opinion has hurt and continues to hurt black kids. I will not address all the reasons and details but am guessing you are well aware of this issue and all the facts and arguments. The blue cities have failed these kids for lots of reasons ( none good) and those kids and society have paid and continue to pay a high price. But I belive my point stands regarding overall systemic racism and my overarching point that those who believe that tend to ha e only negative if not hateful views of this country in 2025.

Finally I appreciate the dialogue. We all should have more of this especially in town halls a d school boards and on college campuses.

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NWCitizen's avatar

I believe that there is a huge disparity in health care that is probably fueled by systemic racism. Trump has made it worse by eliminating any research into why blacks are more likely to suffer from various illnesses in his attempt to get rid of DEI.

https://robertsmith.com/blog/examples-of-systemic-racism/

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I typed a detailed response the substack people would not transmit. I am familiar w mr Smith ( who I respect greatly). Short version: i want a forum that discusses this and related issues. The speakers should be black. People Iike mr Smith and others who do not share his opinion ( this is all about matter of opinion in my view but the speakers can bring forth ( hopefully facts and data and analysis without name calling and so forth). There are plenty of folks from the business and academic worlds that would provide this much needed dialogue. I believe tens of millions of Americans would watch ( with proper advertising etc). No politicians for obvious reasons. The first forum on matters of race but we need similar forums for several other topics of great importance. There is more but I will leave it at that. Again i appreciate the dialogue.

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You talked about Trump/RFK Jr. cutting cancer research funds. I'm trying to find the article I read on Jan. 4, 2025 (weeks before Trump's inauguration) stating cancer research (and for children) was cutting funds. Biden was still POTUS.

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RFK, Jr as secretary of DHS has dramatically stopped research for lifesaving cures and clinical trials for cancer, Alzheimer’s disease, ALS, and more. The Trump Administration has effectively cut nearly $3 billion in National Institutes of Health (NIH) funding in the first three months of 2025, which Mr. Kennedy oversees.

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During budget negotiations in December 2024, provisions to support pediatric cancer were removed from a federal spending package. The final version was passed on December 21, 2024, without these measures. The specific measures that were eliminated included:

The Gabriella Miller Kids First Research Act 2.0: A reauthorization to extend a program at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) that funds pediatric cancer research.

The Accelerating Kids' Access to Care Act: A measure to streamline access to out-of-state medical care for children on Medicaid.

The Give Kids a Chance Act: A bill to incentivize pharmaceutical companies to study new drug combinations for pediatric cancer.

What was restored on January 4, 2025

The Gabriella Miller Kids First Research Act 2.0 was later revised and passed as a standalone bill.

The bill was signed into law on January 4, 2025, as Public Law No. 118-228.

This law secured $12.6 million annually through 2031 to support the NIH program for childhood cancer research.

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In December 2024, pediatric cancer research funding was cut from a year-end spending bill, but a key program was later reauthorized separately and signed into law on January 4, 2025. This left other proposed measures related to pediatric cancer without funding.

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MyOpinion's avatar

I'll find the article. It was Congress (Biden) that made the cuts. Jan. 4, 2025.

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Cat C.'s avatar

The greatest racism that we've had for a while is "The soft bigotry of low expectations" and that's entirely on the Democrat leftists!

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NWCitizen's avatar

Was it racist to discriminate against blacks for generations after the civil war, denying them housing, education, jobs and the right to vote because of their race? Racism was the norm in the US; red lining was practiced across the US, restricting blacks to the least desirable neighborhood which were often razed for interstate and other civic projects. Do you believe racism disappeared over night when the Civil Rights Act of 64 passed? Could the legacy of Jim Crow be the "wealth gap"? Wealth measures the total value of assets a family owns (such as housing and business equity) minus their debts (such as student loans and credit card bills). In 2022, median wealth was approximately $49,890 for black households, $62,000 for non-white Latino or Hispanic households; $285,000 for white households; and $536,000 for Asian American households. It is difficult to get through medical or other setbacks, move to better neighborhoods & pay for good school for your children when your wealth is so low.

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Michael's avatar

Some Palestinians are Jew haters and if you were aware of why you probably wouldn't blame them. I know a few Palestinians and my take is the Jews in the U.S. are nothing like the Jews in Israel. The Israeli Jews in general are violent or support violence toward Arabs. I met a fellow years ago in Barcelona from Israel and he called himself a liberal Jew. Maybe by Israeli standards he was but he reminded me of my parents generation in the 1960's discussing how to deal with the ni**ers. I don't think older Americans understand the reality in Israel.

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publius_x's avatar

LOL “some”

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NothingButNet's avatar

NW, While I’m not a doctor, it’s pretty clear you have a raging case of TDS. Gotta remember that hate will consume your soul if you allow it to fester. Get help.

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John Sirko's avatar

Been trying to convince my wife who is a psychotherapist to figure out how to treat people like NW who desparately need help but are so convinced they are right and know it all. It's the Dunning-Kruger effect in it's full glory; clear evidence of mass formation psychosis. People with the weakest of minds who are so easily manipulated by dark powerful forces. These ARE the people who were the pathetic followers who gave us the 20th century's worst killers, Stalin, Mao, Hitler. Hitler got elected because of these ignorant followers were so easily seduced by the lies of the left and then followed the lead in hating the jews. It wasn't the guy at the top, it was the lack of critical thinking in minds like NW's that have given us history's worst. Fools.

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And I've gone back and forth with NW for years and one time, at the end of our convo, he finally threw out the "Nazi", "Hitler", etc. stuff. He/she does need help.

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Joe Blow's avatar

Hitler was never elected.

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NWCitizen's avatar

I hate to see America destroyed by an ignorant buffoon who is only interested in benefitting himself and his billionaire buddies.

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MyOpinion's avatar

I suggest you put the blame where it belongs. It lies squarely on the shoulders of Biden and border czar Harris. When Trump was elected, there were 450,000 missing children and 100,000+ missing women being raped, killed and trafficked from the open border. They even had them flown in under the cover of darkness. We even had them coming in by bus late at night, dropped off in neighborhoods 3-4 miles from us, and let out into neighborhoods.

You might be interested to know this. I know 4 illegals and they each have children. They are exploited by lower wages, paid less under the table, and couldn't complain if they got hurt because they were illegal. You'll love this part. Every single one of them have said they would vote for TRUMP if they could. I explained to them what they had to do to become legal and they did it.

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NWCitizen's avatar

How did they become legal?

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MyOpinion's avatar

I suggested to each of them to consult with an immigration lawyer in their community.

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Well, I see where you need to know some truths. I'm a 2nd gen CA and never left. Take notes.

In California, undocumented immigrants can access state-funded programs like Medi-Cal for health care (with some recent changes for adults), the Cash Assistance Program for Immigrants (CAPI) for low-income, aged, blind, or disabled individuals, and emergency disaster relief. They can also receive benefits like WIC and school meals through their children, and students are eligible for state aid and in-state tuition. In addition, undocumented workers can receive paid leave and disability benefits regardless of their immigration status.

Health care

Medi-Cal: Children (0-18) and pregnant individuals are eligible for full Medi-Cal coverage regardless of immigration status.

Emergency Medical Treatment: Undocumented immigrants are eligible for emergency medical treatment, regardless of immigration status, through the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA).

WIC: Eligible for the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children.

Food assistance

CalFresh: Eligible to apply for children who are U.S. citizens or lawful permanent residents.

School Meals: Eligible for free and reduced-cost school meals regardless of immigration status.

Social services

CAPI: A state-funded program that provides cash assistance to low-income elderly, blind, or disabled immigrants who are not eligible for SSI/SSP due to their immigration status.

Disability Insurance and Paid Family Leave: Eligible workers can apply for partial pay during a period of disability or to care for a family member.

Education

AB 540: Undocumented students can be exempted from paying non-resident tuition and can apply for state financial aid at public and private colleges.

State Aid: Eligible for state financial aid to help cover tuition, rent, and other costs.

Other benefits

Emergency Disaster Relief: Available to all residents, regardless of immigration status, in the event of a natural disaster.

Tax Credits: Many tax credits are not restricted by immigration status.

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Roger Beal's avatar

That list explains why CA is hemorrhaging taxpaying citizens.

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MyOpinion's avatar

CA is NOT a "business friendly " state whatsoever. There are SO many regulations it's crazy..

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Cat C.'s avatar

Just a regular biz license in CA is about $100 plus whatever your city and county charges. If you want to be an LLC (so that you aren't libel if someone wants to sue you because you looked at them the wrong way - being facetious, but suing is easy in CA), it's a base cost for an LLC biz license of $800 a year, plus city and county charges.

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One time I asked my insurance company, "Why do the rates keep climbing so high?" She said, "Because CA is such a litigious state." People will sue over a ham sandwich.

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Let me address things you have written as I have time.

"The shutdown: Spouting constant lies about the US providing illegal immigrants with free medical care to justify the government shutdown."

First, SCHUMER caused the shutdown of the government. Reps had to have 60 votes. 2 Dems agreed to keeping the gov't open, but not enough votes. Have you ever read the list of what Dems are wanting?? Even YOU wouldn't want them them. Add $1.5 TRILLION to the debt??

If you don't believe illegals get free housing, food, healthcare, MONEY, and FAR more FREE things than we legal Californians get, then you really need to come live in CA for a year to experience it for yourself.

Portland: I have been to Oregon and Portland more times than I can count. I have family living there and tell me their firsthand stories. These anarchists....yes, anarchists .... sleep during the day and come out at night. They have done it for months. Portland residents have been getting SICK of it. And, yes, police officers were told to stand down. You weren't there and neither was I, but my cousin WAS and IS..

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J David Krauser's avatar

Wow! How do you find the time? Get a life.

For your own good. Get a life!

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quarkdetector's avatar

...two things stand out in your list of grievances ... one you acknowledge the crossing of a sovereign nation's border without documentation is illegal ... this is a crime against all citizens ... what should be the appropriate action? ... is there a permissible number of additional crimes, in your view?

Secondly, you allege the POTUS is using the DOJ to attack political enemies. ... should the DOJ be restrained in pursuing those who have committed crimes against the American people because of a perception of political identity? ...

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Long before RFK Jr came on the scene, my partner was diagnosed with GERD. Since it can be treated by staying away from different foods and chemicals, we trusted the doctor. I researched every single thing in canned and packaged food.....you name it, I researched it BIG time....and was horrified in what I was finding. Did you know there are people who are being treated for cancer and the very treatments they're given can CAUSE cancer???

When RFK Jr. came along, I found in my own in-depth research exactly what he was saying. RFK Jr. has said repeatedly he wants to give parents information, then have them discuss options with THEIR doctor.

Back to my partner. As it turned out, she didn't have GERD. She had cancer and died a few weeks later.

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fuzzi's avatar

I'm sorry.

I work in close association with physicians. They believe what they are told by the CDC, AMA, NEJM, etc., and their patients believe what their physicians tell them. Those who spread lies and harm people for profit need to face justice.

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Here's what I say. Fauci should be tried and convicted for crimes against humanity. Everything he said were lied, except for, quote, "Masks don't work, but they make us feel good."

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I taught high school for a long time. You'd be shocked at the caliber of students who said they wanted to go into medicine. It wasn't about empathy, making the world better or even the science, it's all about the money. Fast forward to today and I can't get my doctor to see me. Instead I'm shuffled off to PA's or NP's. Getting a prescription refilled is a pain and trying to find a new doctor on Medicare is increasingly difficult as even the doctors on the official website are no longer accepting patients. For years I endured bad doctors-one time even having whooping cough to the extent I broke two ribs coughing and having it dismissed as a cold by a doctor. She was wrong. Other doctors denied I had a thyroid issue despite a strong family history. When one finally believed me, my thyroid had become a toxic nodule of 72 oz. (no joke, the surgeon wrote an article about it) wrapped around my trachea and esophagus and heading for my aorta. Doctors ignore women, they ignore the elderly and they often ignore parents who are far more in tune with their kids than a pediatrician who sees them twice a year. Doctors are too stuck of diagnosis scripts produced by insurance liability companies to avoid lawsuits, not keep people healthy.

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That's why I always did and do my own research and search (which takes a lot of time) for medical docs who are "open" to alternative medicine and at least have SOME knowledge of nutrition, foods, supplements, etc. ......and I've educated a doctor of 2 over the years.

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Granny62's avatar

I am so sorry. Cancer sucks.

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NWCitizen's avatar

He wants to give them nutty information that has been disproven in studies like taking tylenol during pregnancy or giving babies tylenol after circumcision causes autism. I never took tylenol during my pregnancy and my son was not circumcised but he was diagnosed with autism.

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NWCitizen's avatar

I'm sorry for your tragedy. Trump & RFK Jr are cutting funds for cancer research.

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Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

I assume you’ll be leading a no kings rally today? Just be sure to tell people that no you don’t have rabies, your foaming at the mouth is only because of your insane hatred.

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Rebecca Templeman's avatar

On its face, there are eight blatant lies in your misunderstanding of President Trump's achievements to date. Do you want to know the truth?

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Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

Don’t bother. You’ll just be wasting bytes

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HillsideFarmer's avatar

NWCitizen, I think you are getting too much of your so-called "news" from places like CNN, MSNBC, BBC, PBS, CBS, ABC. NY Times....

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NWCitizen's avatar

I read both sides. Right wingers omit any thing Trump says or does that shows him in a bad light.

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I smiled when I read this. Let me give you some fact. (I watched all of this in real time.)"BTW, no buildings in Portland were burned down in 2020 although there were garbage can fires in the streets" Let me give you a timeline.,

Monday, July 20th violent anarchists targeted the Hatfield Federal Courthouse and federal law enforcement officers in Portland. Attacks on federal personnel and property over the previous several days had included violent attacks on federal officers with weapons as well as efforts to start fires at the Hatfield Federal Courthouse with federal law enforcement officers inside the building. The rioting continued through Monday, when seven individuals were arrested on suspicion of federal crimes including assaulting federal officers.

Monday, July 20 – Tuesday, July 21:

Approximately 75-100 peaceful individuals protested near the Hatfield Federal Courthouse Monday evening. Those individuals departed the area around 11 p.m. without incident. Shortly thereafter, over 1,000 people surrounded the Hatfield Federal Courthouse and began removing plywood coverings on the windows meant to protect the building and the federal officers inside, and then attempted to throw objects – some of them incendiary – through the windows at the officers.

Rioters in the crowd were kicking the doors of the federal courthouse, vandalizing the building with spray paint and blocking adjacent intersections.

Federal officers responded to this assault by deploying pepper balls and tear gas. Rioters continued their assault, throwing canned food rocks, and other projectiles at the officers.

At approximately 12:20 local time, more rioters attempted to break into the courthouse, tearing down plywood and breaking a window in the process.

FPS and DHS officers put out several fires that had been lit in the vicinity, including one at the building.

When officers responded to put out these fires, glass bottles were thrown and lasers – which can cause permanent blindness – were shined in their eyes. Pepper balls were again deployed in response to the assault.

One individual was also seen taking pictures of a water intake system to the Edith Green Federal Building, which is also under FPS protection. Earlier in the evening, a Twitter user tweeted “So we can shut off the water to the buildings the feds are staying in to make it a nightmare for them.”

Seven arrests were made total, two were for assaults on federal officers and five for noncompliance with lawful directions. One of the federal officers assaulted is a member of the Federal Protective Service, the other is a member of the U.S Marshals Service. Another federal officer was injured when he was struck by a glass bottle thrown by rioters.

Previous Days:

July 19-20. Violence/Vandalism and Attempted Arson on Federal Property in Portland:

Again, violent anarchists tore down the perimeter fencing around the Hatfield Federal Courthouse.

The crowd grew to an estimated 1,000.

Red, green and purple lasers – which can cause permanent blindness – were aimed by rioters at federal officers through the courthouse doors while one group used a strobe light on the building. Violent anarchists attacked the building and the officers inside by throwing heavy objects and launching fireworks at the building. A commercial-grade mortar firework was fired in the vicinity of the Hatfield Courthouse front doors.

These incendiary fireworks were launched at the courthouse at the same time that rioters had barricaded the front entrance of the Courthouse with sections of the torn down fence, potentially trapping federal officers inside.

In order to protect themselves and their fellow officers, law enforcement used pepper balls to disperse the violent crowd.

An individual was taken into custody on suspicion of arson and trespassing for lighting a fire in the plaza of the Hatfield Federal Courthouse. DHS Officers extinguished the fire and the individual is pending charges..

Violent anarchists targeted surveillance cameras around the Hatfield Courthouse, rendering them inoperable.

The U.S. Marshals Service reported communications jamming last night, which may have caused significant problems with their radio communications. This was the first reported instance of jamming since the riots have started.

July 18-19. Violence/Defacing of Government Property in Portland:

ACBP Officer was injured when he was struck with a projectile from a suspected “wrist rocket” causing a laceration requiring sutures to his leg.

Violent anarchists tore down newly erected fence protecting the Hatfield Federal Courthouse. The city fencing was also removed from the city parks that have been used as a staging area for the violent crowds.

A bomb squad had to be called in after Federal Protective Service reported a suspicious device located in front of the Hatfield Courthouse, described as a small device tied to the fence line by a white rope. Agents determined the device was an armed, commercially available smoke signaling device. It was rendered safe and removed.

A second device found to have damaged the plywood attached to the Hatfield Courthouse door. This device was analyzed and determined to be a commercially available pyrotechnic, which could have caused a fire inside of the federal building.

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NWCitizen's avatar

Trouble makers came out at night. The riots were dying out until July 2020 when Trump sent in his storm troopers which reinvigorated the rioters at night. Was the Courthouse burned to the ground?

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Kurt's avatar

Enjoy your TDS party at No Kings. We live in reality. You are welcome to join us. Perhaps you can be the one to found the 12 step TDS treatment program. But for now you have a way to go.

And look at this dem’s lack vision piece written by a dem.

https://open.substack.com/pub/theliberalpatriot/p/democrats-and-the-vision-thing?r=bivuf&utm_medium=ios

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NWCitizen's avatar

No thank you. I have no interest in joining the Trump cult.

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KEVIN PEARSON's avatar

They really live in an alternate universe and they really cannot imagine that Trump supporters actually exist and *egad* they actually know how to use the internet and they can defend themselves online

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NWCitizen's avatar

Who said that?

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KEVIN PEARSON's avatar

I just did

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NWCitizen's avatar

Right. That's your idea, nobody on the left thinks that.

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Granny62's avatar

Pray, pray, pray!

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ba ford's avatar

It's the pay. 10 bucks an hour

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Andy Nelson's avatar

To clarify, yes Medicaid is huge. The impacts of the BBB to Medicaid in the larger scheme of things is not, though, was the point I wanted to make. Overall I think Medicaid is and has been a very good thing. I think if we don’t keep it mostly as is, along with Marketplace premium subsidies, the political tide is going to start to shift quickly towards a national healthcare system approach like Canada’s (NO thank you). Choose your poison, I guess, and prescribe it very carefully!

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Andy Nelson's avatar

I agree re questioning the urgency and Sasha’s basic question “why”? ICE activities and the ACA subsidies/Medicaid matters are real policy issues and cause for some concern, but they only affect a small part of the population. This leftist reaction defies reason or clear goals. It’s extreme, to say the least. I think there may be something re trying to rally Dems for the upcoming local and state elections. I suspect they see eg Virginia and New Jersey governorships at risk, and there are many local elections where progressive/viscerally anti-MAGA positions/candidates are in play Seattle and NYC mayor). But still, when all is said and done what are they really “for.” There is no cogent message. It does seem like some form of mass psychosis, to me.

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DK's avatar

What's the “cogent message” in going to war with Venezuela, hiding the Epstein files, sending Argentina a $40 billion bailout while cutting US healthcare, destroying jobs snd industries with tariffs, and deporting legal asylum seekers without due process?

The whole world thinks the right's support of this extremist imcompetence is psychotic.

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Cat C.'s avatar

I missed the declaration of war with Venezuela - when was it made? The Biden/Harris admin. had the Epstein files so why didn't they release them? The healthcare that's being cut is for illegal aliens, not permanent residents, legal aliens or citizens. The tariffs are necessary to get biz to move back here, so we have a manufacturing base again and can stand on our own and not be on our knees in serfdom to the global cartel and/or CCP China. Only about 3 to 4% of all asylum seekers are true, legally asylum seekers. The law is clear enough so that every alien here, can know whether they are truly an asylum seeker or not and so, that means that the other 96% are blatantly lying and committing fraud on the USA, by saying they are asylum seekers when they aren't - that's criminal.

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DK's avatar

Warmongering Trump bombing Venezuela is illegal.

We know why President Trumpflation is blocking release of the Epstein files: he's a child rapist pedophile.

Trump is cutting American citizens’ jobs and healthcare while giving Argentina billions of US taxpayer dollars. America Last.

The “illegal” is rapist, pedo, and convicted felon Trump -- the thug who incited the cop-killing Jan 6 terror attack.

The tariffs are an unnecessary economy-destroying tax on the middle and working class that's worsening inflation while killing jobs, farms, construction, and tourism.

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Cat C.'s avatar

Trump didn't bomb Venezuela!! Biden/Harris had the Epstein files and if what you say is true, they would've released it or leaked it, but you are lying. Those who rioted on Jan. 6th started it before Trump even started his speech that day. Just wow, so many things you've been saying that are untrue, unhinged, nonsensical, emotional, irrational, slanderous, etc.

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DK's avatar

Trump is bombing Venezuelans right now.

Trump-Vance have the Epstein files and won't release them (as promised) because Trump is a child rapist and pedophile.

Trump Republicans are still lying about the 2020 election. Trump incited right wing terrorists on their deadly Jan 6 terror attack with sore loser election lies that caused Fox News to pay out a billion dollars for peddling Trump's slanderous lies.

“Untrue” was Trump promising to lower prices on day one. Instead he's worsening inflation with tariffs while cutting US healthcare and sending $50 billion of our money Argentina. No money for food aid for poor American kids, but Republicans can build a gold ballroom. Yikes.

Trump's ranting and raving on Truth Social at 3am is unhinged, nonsensical, emotional, and irrational.

You're a dishonest, unpatriotic hypocrite who blindly makes excuses for everything Trump says or does because you're a cult sheep bootlicker who can't think for yourself and have nothing going for you but worshipping Trump: a fat, old, corrupt, childish pathological lying incompetent crook who doesn't care about anyone but himself. Pathetic.

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DK's avatar

Trump is bombing Venezuelans right now.

Trump-Vance have the Epstein files and won't release them (as promised) because Trump is a child rapist and pedophile.

Trump Republicans are still lying about the 2020 election. Trump incited right wing terrorists on their deadly Jan 6 terror attack with sore loser election lies that caused Fox News to pay out a billion dollars for peddling Trump's slanderous lies.

“Untrue” was Trump promising to lower prices on day one. Instead he's worsening inflation with tariffs while cutting US healthcare and sending $50 billion of our money Argentina. No money for food aid for poor American kids, but Republicans can build a gold ballroom. Yikes.

Trump's ranting and raving on Truth Social at 3am is unhinged, nonsensical, emotional, and irrational.

You're a dishonest, unpatriotic hypocrite who blindly makes excuses for everything Trump says or does because you're a cult sheep bootlicker who can't think for yourself and have nothing going for you but worshipping Trump: a fat, old, corrupt, childish pathological lying incompetent crook who doesn't care about anyone but himself. Pathetic.

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DK's avatar

Trump is bombing Venezuelans right now.

Trump-Vance have the Epstein files and won't release them (as promised) because Trump is a child rapist and pedophile.

Trump Republicans are still lying about the 2020 election. Trump incited right wing terrorists on their deadly Jan 6 terror attack with sore loser election lies that caused Fox News to pay out a billion dollars for peddling Trump's slanderous lies.

“Untrue” was Trump promising to lower prices on day one. Instead he's worsening inflation with tariffs while cutting US healthcare and sending $50 billion of our money Argentina. No money for food aid for poor American kids, but Republicans can build a gold ballroom. Yikes.

Trump's ranting and raving on Truth Social at 3am is unhinged, nonsensical, emotional, and irrational.

You're a dishonest, unpatriotic hypocrite who blindly makes excuses for everything Trump says or does because you're a cult sheep bootlicker who can't think for yourself and have nothing going for you but worshipping Trump: a fat, old, corrupt, childish pathological lying incompetent crook who doesn't care about anyone but himself. Pathetic.

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Vero's avatar

Good point about the No Kings mass protest aiming to sway the upcoming elections. Absolutely. And yes, it’s a form of mass psychosis and they have “no cogent message.” I guess that’s why they resort to slogans that don’t make a lot of sense (no one is illegal, no one is illegal on stolen land, no justice no peace, fascist, racist, etc). About Medicaid, I read that there are more people on Medicaid than are on Medicare (about 10 million more) and that 43% of children in US are on Medicaid (pretty mind blowing). It’s a lot of money. (Pew Research has the stats.)

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DK's avatar

What's the “cogent message” in going to war with Venezuela, hiding the Epstein files, sending Argentina a $40 billion bailout while cutting US healthcare, destroying jobs snd industries with tariffs, and deporting legal asylum seekers without due process?

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Cat C.'s avatar

I missed the declaration of war with Venezuela - when was it made? The Biden/Harris admin. had the Epstein files so why didn't they release them? The healthcare that's being cut is for illegal aliens, not permanent residents, legal aliens or citizens. The tariffs are necessary to get biz to move back here, so we have a manufacturing base again and can stand on our own and not be on our knees in serfdom to the global cartel and/or CCP China. Only about 3 to 4% of all asylum seekers are true, legally asylum seekers. The law is clear enough so that every alien here, can know whether they are truly an asylum seeker or not and so, that means that the other 96% are blatantly lying and committing fraud on the USA, by saying they are asylum seekers when they aren't - that's criminal.

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DK's avatar

Warmongering Trump bombing Venezuela is illegal.

We know why President Trumpflation and his Party of pro-Hitler Chat Texts is blocking release of the Epstein files: he's a child rapist pedophile.

Trump is cutting American citizens’ jobs and healthcare while giving Argentina billions of US taxpayer dollars. America Last.

The “illegal” is rapist, pedo, and convicted felon Trump -- the thug who incited the cop-killing Jan 6 terror attack.

The tariffs are an unnecessary economy-destroying tax on the middle and working class that's worsening inflation while killing jobs, farms, construction, and tourism.

Trump paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to the CCP while evading US taxes. Now he's taking Muslim bribe planes and building a Muslim airbase in Idaho.

“Criminal” was Trump helping Epstein abuse children, inciting a terror attack on Congress, and stealing top secret documents. It's also criminal (and fascist) to deploy the US military against US citizens, deport legal asylum seekers to foreign torture prisons without 5th Amendment due process, illegally bomb Venezuela, run crypto scams from the Oval Office, take Muslim bribe planes, and use the FCC to silence comedians in violation of the 1st Amendment.

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Les Jackson's avatar

Poor libs on here commenting are showing the world their lack of critical thinking.

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Tim Reding's avatar

I am going to a No Kings rally in a town north of Sacramento, Ca. I am curious as to what these LUNATICS have to protest about.

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Michael's avatar

Unless you are bored I don't see the point. Cultists are unreachable.

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R H's avatar

I'm gonna sum it up here, this current term is the closest the Demoncats will ever get to a majority and power again. Once the Supreme Court rules racially gerrymandered voting districts are unconstitutional, they lose seats in the House forever. Once red states finish redrawing districts, they lose seats. Once the new ACCURATE census comes out that does not count illegals for voting purposes, and they correct the over count for Blue states, and the under count for Red states they lose not only House seats, but electoral college votes. The movement to Red states from Blue states will only accelerate from the election of more radical communist types like Moran Mandami. I don't see how they ever return to power in the foreseeable future. The pendulum may swing back to them, but not in my lifetime. In fact, it's not close to swinging away from them yet.

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Too Loose Low Trek's avatar

The "No KIngs" pantomines are a 24 alarm fire for the vacuous participants. They march because their homes are burning. The Palisades destruction is the metaphor for all that's gone wrong with the entitled and incompetent elected officlas and sympathetic bureaucarts in governements run by Castroites, democrats, leftists amd Marxists. When "No Kings" disintegrates into nothingness, the result may ultimately be about the renewing effect of a fire that had no borders.

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Orenv's avatar

Health is no longer a requirement of our President apparently....

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NotFromTexas's avatar

You KNOW there WILL be – but only from themselves TOWARD themselves in an attempt to frame any counter-protesters.

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quarkdetector's avatar

...they have become the party of no expectations ... they indulge themselves in revisionist history ... what can possibly be more indicative of an aristocratic elite party than being told who the designated heir is and acquiescing your vote? ...

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Castlelove's avatar

The Dimocrats can't tell us what a woman is, so how could they know the difference between a king and a President?

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Liz LaSorte's avatar

Why can’t these protesters see that the real kings are in Congress, enriching themselves on the taxpayer, living the rich life no average American could afford: https://lizlasorte.substack.com/p/no-more-kings?r=76q58

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Skenny's avatar

In some form, I suspect those Congress critters and their supporters are paying a lot of the protesters, and the rest of them are dumb enough to think that democrat politicians really give a shit about trans rights, the climate, and Trump actually being a fascist dictator. In short, they are being paid and/or they are stupid.

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Dena's avatar

Absolutely money is involved - & lots of it. These protests are not organic except for the old lost & empty souls maybe. All the rest are some sort of crazy puppets.

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NotFromTexas's avatar

The rich men north of Richmond.

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Carl Fasbinder's avatar

I believe the climate is just fine.

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PB-558633's avatar

Congressmen may make a lot of money but that doesn’t make them kings in the sense that people are protesting. They are protesting unconstitutional executive overreach. Specifically, and most egregiously, is the freezing of federal grants already appropriated by congress for FY25. Only congress has the power of the purse and the executive branch is constitutionally bound to disperse funds allocated by congress. Reallocating those funds for any purpose other than what was congressionally mandated is the very definition of tyranny. How is this hard? I don’t mean to be rude, but this is middle school social studies material.

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Skenny's avatar

Congressmen don't make a lot of money, they steal a lot, get bribed a lot, get bought a lot, inside-trade a lot, and sell themselves a lot.

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PB-558633's avatar

I agree. So how is having a president who is even more corrupt than your average congressman supposed to fix this problem?

Or are you saying that congress can be ignored because they are all corrupt? Unfortunately the constitution doesn’t agree with you. And, in case you forgot, the president takes an oath to defend the constitution, not his constituents and not even the country.

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Liz LaSorte's avatar

Executive overreach has been happening for decades bc Congress doesn’t do their job and they enrich themselves instead.

Unfortunately, the balance of powers doesn’t work.

Only Congress is supposed to have the power of purse, so the irony when Obama used executive overreach (i.e. DACA $$), people were not told to be outraged, so they remain clueless yet, he was clearly violating the Constitution but now, Trump is enforcing federal immigration laws and that’s not federal overreach.

If you believe everyone should obey the law - like 8 USC Section 1325 (unlawful entry), then you would support Trump enforcing federal law - illegal immigration hurts all Americans in so many ways - jobs, housing, crime.

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PB-558633's avatar

Why is this difficult? The law is the law is the law. You think one party behaving badly excuses the other one behaving much worse?DACA was overreach and the Biden administrations feckless handling of immigration was overreach. Voters spoke up in both instances and punished the party responsible. Freezing 100s of billions of allocations is overreach on a different scale.

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Skenny's avatar

There is a process called rescission, enshrined in law.

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Skenny's avatar

Congress is a cess pool. Four years of Trump will not be adequate to fix a problem that has been decades in the making.

They all take an oath, Congress is not immune. They just think they are. Evidently you agree, because Trump.

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PB-558633's avatar

You think I agree that congress should be excused from acting lawfully because I don’t think Trump is acting lawfully? Wow. Let me help you. Everyone should follow the law.

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Liz LaSorte's avatar

Everyone should follow the law - - like 8 USC section 1325? Illegal immigration is unsustainable. Ask legal immigrants how they feel about people butting ahead of them in line.

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Skenny's avatar

Congress is out of control, acting unconstitutionally, beyond the bounds of the enumerated powers of the federal government, and you are defending their "power of the purse," as if they can spend taxpayer money on anything they want.

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MyOpinion's avatar

I literally laughed out loud at this and now my cat is wondering what the heck I'm laughing at? Her??

"Protests are meant to be the voices of the unheard. Yet these protests are the voices of those who never shut up." IT'S TRUE!

I remind people, "We haven't been under a king's rule ever since July 4, 1776. In fact, we even have a Federal holiday celebrating it."

To be honest, I find Dems to be SO (literally) crazy now that I just ignore them as if I'm working in an asylum and get to leave soon. I feel like patting them on the head and saying, "Ok, dear."

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Kurt's avatar

I laughed out loud at that line too. Classic!

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PB-558633's avatar

I know. Let’s ban all protests by people who aren’t “unheard.” By this logic, the women’s suffrage movement should have stopped agitating for the vote sometime in the 1890s, because most people had certainly heard from them by then. Also, I’m sure most of the Jim Crow south had heard as much of MLK as they could stomach by the early sixties.

I don’t really agree with a lot of what the left has to say these days, but the level of discourse on this thread is dumb af.

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MyOpinion's avatar

An interesting fact is that black men were able to vote before women.

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Rick's avatar

I have not seen a single POC in any of these protest rallies. Are the No Kings people racist?

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NWCitizen's avatar

"No Tyrants" day would be a better name for it. Did you see the AI video posted by trump of him flying a plane and dumping poop on protestors? So presidential.

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Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

Protests are meant to be the voices of the unheard. Yet these protests are the voices of those who never shut up.

Priceless Sasha.

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Jim I's avatar

The crazies are going to a No Kings march.

We are going to a college football game.

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Jim I's avatar

This all became pathological the day the Obama-Biden Administration thought it was okay to spy on the Trump campaign.

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Danimal28's avatar

I live in Lindstrom, MN and went to the 20 person 'No Kings' rally in June and asked them about the upcoming true No King day on July 4th. They responded "We hate Trump".

I still think Obama is a proven communist and I never, ever did something like this. Derangement.

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KEVIN PEARSON's avatar

While they say "No Kings" what they are really protesting is that their Pharoah, whom they worship as a god, didn’t get a fourth term

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Brian M's avatar

Exactly... Kamala is also a Obama protege' from when she entered politics in the early 2000s. She would have done his bidding. I am sure he was greatly disappointed by her performance

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Kristina Renee's avatar

I used to like Jean Smart...

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Ruth H's avatar

Yeah, that video changed my mind and now I won’t be watching her in anything old or new.

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Sally Sue's avatar

I am so grateful for John Fetterman. So glad he won the Senate seat. Dr. Oz still got a great job, he is Director of Medicare and Medicaid, which is a perfect job for him. John Fetterman does think for himself. It reminds me of Joe Manchin before. He was a great Democratic Senator who thought for himself and often he was the only voice of reason in their crazy party.

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Ruth H's avatar

I’m from WV and Manchin goes along with whichever way the wind blows or if a bribe can be offered for his vote. Biden bribed him once by giving his wife Gail some prestigious board position. She’s as ruthless as him. As governor, he froze state wages for two years, but exempted his office staff. Their daughter was in charge of a big pharma company that did major problems in WV. Manchin did nothing. Towards the end he saw the writing on the wall and tried to pretend he was independent. Don’t be fooled. Manchin doesn’t have a shred of decency or integrity.

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Cat C.'s avatar

Yes, at the end, he caved and voted for that one huge-spending bill he swore he'd never vote for (can't remember which one it was) and afterward, he blamed it on Biden admin., saying "they lied to me about what was in the bill".

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Ruth H's avatar

Manchin could have read the darn bill, or ask his many staff members to read it, but no he just blames Biden. Or read the section that most concerned him, as if something did. Typical Manchin. He always wavered and acted sanctimoniously on these big bills and then later we learn his wife got another appointment. I think in total she got 3.

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Mimzy Borogroves's avatar

Dems are trying to oust him now. Who knew it would take a stroke to bring him to his senses. It kind of makes me wonder if someone was drugging him before.

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Daniel Beegan's avatar

Sasha, if you don't read and follow Ruy Teixeira, I think you would like him. He's a PhD political scientist who used to be with the Center for Progress but now is at the American Enterprise Institute. A Democrat, he agrees the party has abandoned the working class in favor of the Woke crap of the progressives. Like you he says they have to get over their obsession with Trump to win.

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Kurt's avatar

Absolutely! His latest article has the dem’s “Doomsday chart” because they are so out of step with the concerns of normal Americans.

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Richard's avatar

Ruy Texiera is great but the others in TLP not so much. It would be nice if he went full Sasha.

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HL3's avatar

Oppose Trump but that cannot be the entire agenda. What about healthcare, wages of the poor working class, heck bring up ending switching clocks back and forth a real health issue for MAHA. They have to push agenda not just be 100% opposition.

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234's avatar

Have you ever actually met someone who was denied healthcare, turned away at a hospital? If that person exists, he/she would be an MSNBC 24/7 celebrity.

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HL3's avatar

Yea you are not denied by enjoy that lifetime of bills and no you cannot chapter 32 end debt it GOP ended that.

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Matthew J Florio's avatar

Go tell them!

But then you'd be the guy unwelcome in both parties.

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HL3's avatar

I am unwelcome by the elites in the democrats not the in general party

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Jim the Geek's avatar

I'm a Boomer, turned 78 today. A few of my fellow members of the class of 1965 might attend these stupid rallies, but most of us are just staggered by the depth of the dumbth of these people.

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madaboutmd's avatar

Happy birthday! You share a bday with my hubby who is 65 today! We are Boomers too and wouldn't be caught dead doing this.

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Jim the Geek's avatar

I remember 65. I had more hair then. Happy birthday to hubs!

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madaboutmd's avatar

Lol! He had more hair at 45! It's been awhile......

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Happy Birthday! You’re at the top end of the boomers, I’m in the middle and dare I say middle and the last of the boomers have serious TDS. 10-20 more years of prosperous parents? Were we that spoiled? Just enough time after the war to see and expect an easier life? Apathy was strong. Vietnam had some impact and a few wore those bracelets but then the draft ended, the war was over and we went to college. Easy peasy. All anyone worried about was scab lettuce and Cesar Chavez, and it wasn’t that big of a deal.

Then we got jobs and went on with our lives. I have to say, I didn’t have much growing up so when the recession of the 80’s hit it was no big deal. We soldiered on. Kids today don’t soldier on. Oh god, now I sound like a boomer! 🤣

After all this rambling I still don’t understand TDS. Kids I grew up with are idiots! I need to focus on those of us who aren’t.

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Jim the Geek's avatar

Looking at my own peers, it seems that the ones from wealthy families (compared to mine) are the most delusional. I think Rob Henderson nailed it in his book "Troubled".

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Thanks, I’ll have to check that out. My husband always says ‘they can afford to be liberal’.

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KAG's avatar

It's all so exhausting! They are like toddlers throwing temper tantrums. Is this what it's going to be like for the rest of my life if they don't get their way? I honestly think it will be unfortunately. It just astounds me that people can't see what is going on. It's downright frightening that there's enough evil power out in the world to continue doing this. Soros needs to be investigated and designated as a terrorist.

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MyOpinion's avatar

RICO

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Jorge Finkielman's avatar

Thank you Sasha. My wife is going to this protest. I won’t and I get into discussions about this waste of time.

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madaboutmd's avatar

Serious question--does your wife truly believe Trump is acting as a king?

If my husband did this, we wouldn't be able to live together. This idea that Trump is a king is absolutely ludicrous.

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NotFromTexas's avatar

The projection is strong with these lunatics – and there is no longer a lunatic fringe of the Democrat party, it is now the fabric.

"Strong" isn't even close to being the proper term, because the left's projection is an all-consuming, all-encompassing force that engulfs and devours its adherents; then it expectorates them back as human automatons devoid of the ability to reason, or think critically. They can only react emotionally to the stimulus identified by their masters in the legacy corporate synchronised media.

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quarkdetector's avatar

...undoubtably, legacy media will cover this collection of people ad nauseum ... but I will look at it as the greatest collection of people who did not fully participate in the democratic process ... patting themselves on the back for being loyal to the aristocrats ... hypocrisy in action ...

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KEVIN PEARSON's avatar

You forgot 2000 and 2004. And how, I believe Auntie Maxine was protesting the Electoral count at certification on January 6, 2005.

When Democrats protest Electoral counts it's "democracy in action". When Republicans bring evidence to challenge the Electoral count - which they never got a chance to do because of the FBI induced riot- it's treason and an insurrection.

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Kurt's avatar

Sasha, truly a stellar performance. Your voice had an uncharacteristic feistiness--a sort of aggitated exasperation at the endless tantrums of the left. That Varuca Salt joke was spot on. I laughed out loud. You are the best.

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Dunboy2020's avatar

Yes.

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