Do you read conservative sites or even Sashas site?? Politics is dirty, messy and nasty and Matt Talibi admits to uses very broad vulgar language when defining people he hates.
Now the biggest cases the libel was successful they attack NON-POLITICAL people. Like Sandmann vs CBS and Info wars Alex Jones vs the victims of the shooting. But Matt Talibi is a well-known political shock jock and does his own fair share of that use of language.
Sorry. Still not following. I'm on Sasha's stack. Yes, I read other conservative stacks and even some leftist sites, ok, browse the leftist sites. What does Sandmann vs CBS have to do with the thread?
Yeah, Taibbi can get vocal. Bongino, Bannon etc. So...
What does that have to do with a sitting congress critter (rep from CA) going after Taibbi on social media? Sure, as Taibbi noted on his stack:
"There is not much a person like me can say to a member of Congress hiding behind the protections of the Speech and Debate clause of the Constitution.
One can however respond to a member arrogant enough to repeat those claims on social media."
This sitting congress woman (I think it's a she) went beyond bounds, as a private citizen, perhaps even more so as a Congressional Representative.
Rep. Derrick Van Orden, R-Wis., told the teenagers to “get the f--- out” of the rotunda, according to one source who witnessed the interaction and spoke on condition of anonymity. The source described Van Orden's demeanor as “physically aggressive” toward the pages.
Falsely accusing someone of sex crimes is not protected under free speech, and I suspect you know this. Slander is illegal and always has been. This seems like a clear cut case.
Yes but the bar and proof of damages is much higher for political figures and Matt Talibi is a political figure today. He has to prove the damage to his name and substantial loss of revenue is 10 million worth.
Look at the current show he puts on, I am not talking about his Twitter files report I am talking about the current setup. It's a set piece of liberal bashing and mocking around the world.
I'm not sure you want to make an enemy out of someone with the investigative chops of a Matt Taibbi. If Ms. Kamlager-Dove has any skeletons in her closet, they are rattling right now.
Please let him know that there are thousands of people who support him and back him. Not only as an individual journalist, but as a person who stands tall for free expression, and the first amendment.
Good! It’s right out of the playbook. They can’t shut someone up so out comes some sort of sex scandal. I pray Matt wins and she’s forced to apologize.
I pray he wins and that she is kicked out of congress. It’s really getting to be too much with the way our representatives and senators lie…about everything
Just because you don't get daily briefings or see what she is doing doesn't mean she is not busy 🙄. Maybe what all you impatient people need to do is get busy then you won't be "sitting by the phone" waiting!
I like the appointment, but I'll believe it when I see FBI kicking in doors at 5 a.m. and perp walking criminals in front media cameras. I'm retired so I am as busy as I want to be... :)
Wow! Tripling down on “not so smart” is now a certifiably Dem art form. Matt got the receipts on this one. Another fine example why California is a total sh** show for the rest of the country to see.
All I can say is Matt is a MUCH nicer person than I. If it were me I would have been On My Feet and Words would have been spoken. Harsh words and at a High Volume.
There is a component of the human psyche, Steve, known as the empathy spectrum. Where you have zero empathy at one polar end (the Cluster-B types and addicts) and uber-empathy at the other polar end (the Goodists).
Life at either polar end will cause trouble. At the zero empathy end, it causes trouble for others. At the uber-empathy end, it causes trouble for the Goodist individual (the Disease to Please).
The ideal is homeostasis. The middle ground. A good principle to know in life.
I like to be nice, to understand the other persons point of view I prefer it. BUT when someone like a Sydney Kamlager-Dove show up, then The Bad Steve shows up. And he's not a very nice understanding empathetic person.
Fear not, the pen is far mightier than the sword. Let him sue her ass off first and you can be sure if he wants to he can flay her mercilessly with words alone—and laugh all the way to the bank doing it.
I vote for You Steve to be in the courtroom and pull a Robert Duvall as Tom Hagen and demand public apologies— seriously you have to wait until it’s over and MT clobbers her with the Truth
I Love The Energy though— maybe Ms Stone and Mr Kirn can whip up a script and have some time to rehearse
I was horrified when I saw this woman treat Matt with such disgust and disrespect, I was appalled.
I responded to Matt's article about the lawsuit and I told him that if there's any way I could help, to just let me know.
In the meantime, I told Matt I would hand write a letter to the congress woman. I'm going to remind her, that when an American speaks to her in an official capacity, her duty is to be respectful and listen.
I am hoping that a letter may have more impact, than just responding on X.
Thanks Sasha for bringing this lawsuit to the forefront. I agree, “Go Matt!”
These demented Dems think that whatever they believe justifies whatever they do, even if it is proven that they are wrong. And that if they keep repeating the lies, somehow that will make people believe it is true. They also pay no attention whatsoever to what their constituents want, because they are convinced that they know what is best for all.
I know that. I've been fighting these idiots for years. I will still write my letter. It's the least I can do for Matt.
I'm an old lady and old enough to be Matt's mom. In fact my youngest son is named Matt. This situation has ignited the fighting mama bear within myself. I'll do what I can to protect and stand up for Matt.
I subscribe to his substack and gave a little cheer when this one came out. They all need to be sued, prosecuted, and bankrupted for the shit they do and say
There seems to be no end of these gullible unknown Democrats who think they are making a name for themselves but are simply used by the party as expendable idiots.
Good for him. Her comments were completely out of bounds and difficult to watch. Anyone who follows Matt and his work knows him as a man of consummate integrity. Hope she loses every dime he’s suing her for, and it teaches other likeminded charlatans a lesson.
Awesome, time to make those clowns in congress pay for their baseless smears. I remember when Matt Taibbi was at the Rolling Stone exposing the corrupt big bank bailouts and I was sort of blue pilled by his unflinching descriptions of the abuse and corruption of those bailouts. Nice to see that he has been red pilled by the censorship regime and corruption endemic in the Democrat Party.
The Democrats have nothing to offer except smears and insults. They're striving for a 10% public approval rating.
Let's help them achieve said rating.
Or less.
That works too.
But they'll get away with it just as Harry Reid got away with defaming Mitt Romney. Here's why:
Article I, Section 6, Clause 1:
“...for any Speech or Debate in either House, [Senators and Representatives] shall not be questioned in any other Place.”
You can't sue them.
So when GOP use smear and insults Democrats should just take it?
Get the TDS vaccine ASAP.
Over used term to attack anybody critical of Trump or his allies.
True, but you're still a moron.
I love you too
Matt's got a solid case. Maybe take a knee on this one, bud?
Did Matt smear anyone?
Explain please.
Do you read conservative sites or even Sashas site?? Politics is dirty, messy and nasty and Matt Talibi admits to uses very broad vulgar language when defining people he hates.
Now the biggest cases the libel was successful they attack NON-POLITICAL people. Like Sandmann vs CBS and Info wars Alex Jones vs the victims of the shooting. But Matt Talibi is a well-known political shock jock and does his own fair share of that use of language.
Sorry. Still not following. I'm on Sasha's stack. Yes, I read other conservative stacks and even some leftist sites, ok, browse the leftist sites. What does Sandmann vs CBS have to do with the thread?
Yeah, Taibbi can get vocal. Bongino, Bannon etc. So...
What does that have to do with a sitting congress critter (rep from CA) going after Taibbi on social media? Sure, as Taibbi noted on his stack:
"There is not much a person like me can say to a member of Congress hiding behind the protections of the Speech and Debate clause of the Constitution.
One can however respond to a member arrogant enough to repeat those claims on social media."
This sitting congress woman (I think it's a she) went beyond bounds, as a private citizen, perhaps even more so as a Congressional Representative.
Because he does it as well he gets very personal with the insults.
That’s not an insult, it was an accusation. A very serious one
Really trying to follow but...
Who is 'he', Taibbi?
What personal insults from, 'he' to who?
And again, what does this have to do with the lawsuit that Taibbi has filed?
Can you please give an example of MattTaibbi being anything other than honest and professional?
See his shows every Monday. He used to be honest and professional then he got spiteful and hateful.
Waiting for your examples of that.
Yeah, trying to understand that too.
Rep. Derrick Van Orden, R-Wis., told the teenagers to “get the f--- out” of the rotunda, according to one source who witnessed the interaction and spoke on condition of anonymity. The source described Van Orden's demeanor as “physically aggressive” toward the pages.
GTFO yelled is not libel. Do you understand that? Also, Van Orden is not an alias for Taibbi.
Is Matt Taibbi AKA "Rep. Derrick Van Orden"? Anyway, that's not libel or slander.
Falsely accusing someone of sex crimes is not protected under free speech, and I suspect you know this. Slander is illegal and always has been. This seems like a clear cut case.
Yes but the bar and proof of damages is much higher for political figures and Matt Talibi is a political figure today. He has to prove the damage to his name and substantial loss of revenue is 10 million worth.
He has to prove potential. Per the law.
"Political shock jock" is the exact opposite of Matt Taibbi. You, sir, are quite likely a moron.
Look at the current show he puts on, I am not talking about his Twitter files report I am talking about the current setup. It's a set piece of liberal bashing and mocking around the world.
So, your side is reaping what they sow? That always happens. But I think even that is not true.
Examples please.
Today, their ratings went up even more than the stock markets and world sentiment to America tanked.
I listen to Matt and Walter Kirn and many times I agree with Walter calling out Matt for being too nice! Go Matt!
I'm not sure you want to make an enemy out of someone with the investigative chops of a Matt Taibbi. If Ms. Kamlager-Dove has any skeletons in her closet, they are rattling right now.
Or a Glenn Greenwald!
Reason being— this cat will show up in person to get to the bottom of any situation— doesn’t get any more old school than that.
He speaks softly/yet carries a big stick(The Truth)
I recommended to Matt that he read the book by attorney Rebecca Zung:
"Slay the Bully: How to Negotiate with a Narcissist and Win"
Just $10m against this degenerate Democrat. Matt should make an example out of her and sue her into poverty and homelessness.
It will take lawsuits like this to change the behaviors. I hope Matt wins. If he wins, America wins.
I hope Matt bankrupts that useful idiot and the malevolent, evil force that put her up to this.
Ms Stone,
If you have a way to communicate with Matt Taibbi
Please let him know that there are thousands of people who support him and back him. Not only as an individual journalist, but as a person who stands tall for free expression, and the first amendment.
Count me in— where/when I’m There
Good! It’s right out of the playbook. They can’t shut someone up so out comes some sort of sex scandal. I pray Matt wins and she’s forced to apologize.
I pray he wins and that she is kicked out of congress. It’s really getting to be too much with the way our representatives and senators lie…about everything
And the ease with which they lie is frightening.
Apologies are cheap. She should never get off that easily.
The humiliation of a public retraction and apology will hurt someone with that outsized ego.
Agreed.
As Bannon always says, “it’s not going to stop until we make them stop”.
Exactly. Pam Bondi needs to get busy.
Just because you don't get daily briefings or see what she is doing doesn't mean she is not busy 🙄. Maybe what all you impatient people need to do is get busy then you won't be "sitting by the phone" waiting!
I like the appointment, but I'll believe it when I see FBI kicking in doors at 5 a.m. and perp walking criminals in front media cameras. I'm retired so I am as busy as I want to be... :)
Wow! Tripling down on “not so smart” is now a certifiably Dem art form. Matt got the receipts on this one. Another fine example why California is a total sh** show for the rest of the country to see.
I just read and commented on Matt's Substack.
This is the sort of situation that makes me glad I saw the light long ago and never fell to feminism. I knew what it was.
All I can say is Matt is a MUCH nicer person than I. If it were me I would have been On My Feet and Words would have been spoken. Harsh words and at a High Volume.
There is a component of the human psyche, Steve, known as the empathy spectrum. Where you have zero empathy at one polar end (the Cluster-B types and addicts) and uber-empathy at the other polar end (the Goodists).
Life at either polar end will cause trouble. At the zero empathy end, it causes trouble for others. At the uber-empathy end, it causes trouble for the Goodist individual (the Disease to Please).
The ideal is homeostasis. The middle ground. A good principle to know in life.
I like to be nice, to understand the other persons point of view I prefer it. BUT when someone like a Sydney Kamlager-Dove show up, then The Bad Steve shows up. And he's not a very nice understanding empathetic person.
I hear you, Steve. There are times in this old world when that is exactly the right approach. This seems to be one of them.
Fear not, the pen is far mightier than the sword. Let him sue her ass off first and you can be sure if he wants to he can flay her mercilessly with words alone—and laugh all the way to the bank doing it.
I vote for You Steve to be in the courtroom and pull a Robert Duvall as Tom Hagen and demand public apologies— seriously you have to wait until it’s over and MT clobbers her with the Truth
I Love The Energy though— maybe Ms Stone and Mr Kirn can whip up a script and have some time to rehearse
I was horrified when I saw this woman treat Matt with such disgust and disrespect, I was appalled.
I responded to Matt's article about the lawsuit and I told him that if there's any way I could help, to just let me know.
In the meantime, I told Matt I would hand write a letter to the congress woman. I'm going to remind her, that when an American speaks to her in an official capacity, her duty is to be respectful and listen.
I am hoping that a letter may have more impact, than just responding on X.
Thanks Sasha for bringing this lawsuit to the forefront. I agree, “Go Matt!”
These demented Dems think that whatever they believe justifies whatever they do, even if it is proven that they are wrong. And that if they keep repeating the lies, somehow that will make people believe it is true. They also pay no attention whatsoever to what their constituents want, because they are convinced that they know what is best for all.
I know that. I've been fighting these idiots for years. I will still write my letter. It's the least I can do for Matt.
I'm an old lady and old enough to be Matt's mom. In fact my youngest son is named Matt. This situation has ignited the fighting mama bear within myself. I'll do what I can to protect and stand up for Matt.
Any idea if there is a fund to support Matt /legal bills?
He said he is going to handle this himself. He’s not taking donations.
He's probably making a million per month from his Substack. He'll be fine.
🙄🙄
No, I don't know of one.
Thank Jesus for Matt, Glenn and Sasha.
This is going to be great ... Dems really have nothing to offer but Slurs and SignalGate...
And the Signal issue is a nothing burger at heart. But it gives the left something to rail about.
I subscribe to his substack and gave a little cheer when this one came out. They all need to be sued, prosecuted, and bankrupted for the shit they do and say
There seems to be no end of these gullible unknown Democrats who think they are making a name for themselves but are simply used by the party as expendable idiots.
Good for him. Her comments were completely out of bounds and difficult to watch. Anyone who follows Matt and his work knows him as a man of consummate integrity. Hope she loses every dime he’s suing her for, and it teaches other likeminded charlatans a lesson.
Awesome, time to make those clowns in congress pay for their baseless smears. I remember when Matt Taibbi was at the Rolling Stone exposing the corrupt big bank bailouts and I was sort of blue pilled by his unflinching descriptions of the abuse and corruption of those bailouts. Nice to see that he has been red pilled by the censorship regime and corruption endemic in the Democrat Party.