I suspect Ghislaine Maxwell and Les Wexner probably know more about the details. Certainly Prince Andrew was completely undone by his association with Epstein.
I’m gonna need a good explanation eventually on why Trump is a pedophile sympathizer or else this 3x Trump voter will be finding a new political home. I will not vote or associate with those who appear to be okay with child sex trafficking.
I don't see that. The reason being that the biden admin and democrats absolutely would have leaked it (the coup de grâce to Trump). I really believe there are national security issues here and that Epstein was a CIA operative. Just my thoughts.
Making us wait on disclosure does not make him a pedophile sympathizer. He has, in both terms, focused on arresting more pedos than any other leader anywhere. Just relax Matt. It will work out. This is a guy whose motto is "Never, ever, ever Give Up." I don't see him bowing or sucking up to Bibi. I see him setting all the effers up for a yuuuuge takedown.
A quibble, but I would discourage the watering down of the word "pedophile" to include teenagers, especially ones older than both of my parents were when I was a one-year old born in wedlock and they were legally married and on a flight to Japan to join my Dad just assigned there by the Air Force. We now have to ask additional questions before forming an opinion on someone accused of "rape" or "racism" .. words matter.
I get what you're saying. Country of Iraq right now has marriage age minimum of 18, but there is a bill trying to reduce marriage age to 12. In Afghanistan the most common marriage age is 15/16, but some below that. Different cultures have different norms. With the Epstein thing, I've heard that some of the 'victims' were also helping to 'pimp' their friends/acquaintances. Some of the clients may have been well into their 60's and 70's but having a poke with 17 year olds.
In the last 48 hours I heard Trump tell a reporter to stop asking questions about Epstein and his DOJ now say there isn’t a list, but they showed a binder said to hold Epstein docs right after Bondi was confirmed. Even JD Vance said during campaign the info should be made transparent (see his interview w/ Theo Von). This I know, and it’s an incredibly bad look. Maybe it’s a set up or the investigation is on-going and doesn’t want to tip off anyone. But if not, then Trump not providing ‘transparency’ on this subject (while having the ability to do so) would make him, IMO, complicit in cover up. Time will tell.
Epstein is dead, his estate was liquidated to compensate his victims and Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison. When Trump pardons Maxwell, you can claim he's a pedophile sympathizer.
When one client of Epstein/ Maxwell ever gets convicted then get back to me. There seems to be only one ‘John’ who’s been convicted, and he only in court of public opinion:
Prince Andrew
Tell me Jen, how Maxwell gets put away for 20 years but no clients of Maxwell were ever named. How does that even happen?
Until and unless other info comes out, it’s my opinion that Trump is on the ‘list’ that he’d like people to stop talking about.
Why would you name your plane something so obviously incriminating if you were doing said thing? Wouldn’t you want to be as inconspicuous as possible? That whole angle never made any sense to me.
Me either. REAL bad guys do not monologue their nefarious plans or play stupid word games for the good guys to figure out. The bad guys in the real world are not Batman villains.
“The "Lolita Express" is a nickname given to Jeffrey Epstein's private Boeing 727 jet, tail number N908JE
. This name, a reference to Vladimir Nabokov's novel "Lolita" about a middle-aged man's obsession with a young girl, reflects the disturbing allegations surrounding Epstein's use of the plane. The plane has been at the center of allegations of facilitating underage sex trafficking and abuse, allegedly transporting young girls to Epstein's various properties, including his private island, Little St. James.” AI
Read the book, saw the Peter Seller’s movie. There is no plane christened “The Lolita Express”. I can nickname anyone anything, or anything anyone. I will refrain from nicknaming any of your cousins “Lolita Express”. Anyway, just being pedantic.
Sasha I suspect you may be overstating how weighty the Epstein affair is in the minds of most people. I think to most of us it was never more than further proof of the tawdriness and decadence of rich and famous people. In other words, a yawn. Although I admit that any time the CIA/FBI is involved the accompanying stink is always retching.
Can I suggest you read Jeff Childers post today? Epstein story isn’t going away. He frames this latest weird affair as the beginning of a next, more dangerous chapter, and goes on to give 4 possible explanations of what is occurring.
“Epstein is undoubtedly one of the most important stories of our generation. It’s the Rosetta Stone of elite corruption— a case intersecting nearly every electrified rail of conservative, populist, and justified MAGA distrust: globalist depravity, the deep state’s immunity, two-tiered justice, media collusion, basic right and wrong, and child exploitation— and the sickening sense that the worst people in the world are the ones setting the rules.”
And Epstein killed himself. Yeah right. Corruption never stops. Faces change, corruption stays the same. Bondi said a while back they were going through the client list and watching hours of video from the Island. Someone is lying. America party? What an 'effing joke. Yeah put Dems back in power, that's a great idea Elon.
Gislaines father & other small hats invloved in the rise of epstine.Virginia Guffre was just "suicided" the whole thing was a mossad op & there is obvious colusion with other three letter agencies. There is whole.lot of there there. those here saying otherwise are on the.payroll.
I wouldent be surprised if epstine is either alive or was in fact murdered. All the cameras inop, guards all asleep yeah right.
No matter who,where or what truth always leaks..
There will have to be watchers riding herd on this for fifty years.
By that time all the players will be dead with nobody left to care.
Allegedly one of Epstein's girlfriends said that he bragged about being a Mossad agent.
However, a problem that's as great or even greater than the Mossad is "Christian Zionist" theology, which has dumbed down the country and brought this government into abject complicity with genocide.
I suspect the FBI erased whatever “there” was once there. They set up the Trump team like Lucy sets up a football. Personally I think AI / deep fake capability has erased whatever power the Epstein films may had anyway. Our leaders remain deeply conflicted however, most likely paid off by China, Israel, etc.
I just really have to wonder if Congress used the passage of OBBB as leverage to keep the client list from ever seeing the light of day… it’s the timing that I keep thinking about…
If there is no there there, why is Maxwell in jail?
If there is no there there, why was Epstein jailed twice and had to commit suicide (or be killed)?
You need evidence? Indict prosecutors of both Epstein’s imprisonments and the Maxwell’s one for the unlawful imprisonment, and feel free to pile up charges as “you” usually do, then sit back and see evidence flow
I get the anger and disappointment, but consider that our own Government's deep state funded terrorism, played both sides and assassinated one sitting US POTUS, and controlled our own elections sine the last great turning, why would one think it would be that easy. Logically speaking, that sort of power always plays from the shadows, and has its back doors and parachutes, the common folks have not idea about. Even in daily life we are blind to how the sausage is made.
I think it was George Bernard Shaw, who once said all professions are conspiracies upon the laity. If the butcher knows how the sausage is made and the plumber knows shortcuts to repair plumbing, the professional politicians and deep state operatives have some really dark secrets.
Consider Ghislaine Maxwell's father and how deep this all goes. Know that there are amoral people in dark positions of power that would destroy the world in nuclear holocaust rather than give up their power.
So as a Christian, I pray daily for those fighting the good fight, knowing that the only true justice does not come during our mortal journey.
From the FBI memo: "The files relating to Epstein include a large volume of images of Epstein, images and videos of victims who are either minors or appear to be minors, and over ten thousand downloaded videos and images of illegal child sex abuse material and other pornography."
How can there be 10,000 videos and images of "illegal child sex abuse material" and no abusers? Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison for sex trafficking children. Who was she trafficking them to?
Maybe I'm just a cynical GenXer, but I don't buy it at all. Someone abused these children. There may not be an official "Epstein list", but I'm certain the FBI knows some people who committed these crimes.
In the last few weeks we were informed that Epstein definitely committed suicide (despite that bone in his neck that was broken; the one that fractures when you are strangled), the tape recording showing access to his cell miraculously made an appearance (it is a "still" except a minute of the recording is missing so I hear), there is no client list and no flight log (what list was wr showed with all those names of celebs in it?). Jeff was attacked from all sides and accused of terrible crimes when it was that bitch of a Gillaine Maxwell who did terrible things with underage girls right under his nose. At least they removed her from society for the time being.
But serious, watch Candace Owens's video of today (yesterday?) about Epstein's power. Without a deep state his treatment would not have been possible.
“When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing—when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors—when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you—when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice—you may know that your society is doomed.”
That said, I viewed the Candance Owens' YouTube content on Epstein independent of any preconceived logical fallacy such as your ad hominem attack alleging anti-Semitism behavior by Candance Owens.
Sharon, you have made an objection to the Owens' YouTube content by appealing to a characteristic or belief of Owens', rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against her claims about the Trump DOJ/FBI Epstein coverup. It is an attempt by you to argue against Owens claims of DOJ/FBI corruption by discrediting her and not arguing her claim on its face. A personal attack by you instead of debating the substance of the Candance Owens content on the Epstein DOJ/FBI coverup and national disgrace.
“ FYI: I know very little about Ms. Candance Owens.
That said, I viewed the Candance Owens' YouTube content on Epstein independent of any preconceived logical fallacy …”
Bingo!! Go as far back as you wish and listen to her. Candice speaking in fallacies made me uncomfortable from the get go, way before she turned anti-Semitic.
Having said that, I don’t think there is anyone and even their grandmother who believes current “development” in the Epstein case. I’ve been predicting that no there there would be found for one simple reason: some of us are allowed to destroy evidence with impunity. Remember 10 cell phones destroyed after the Muller report delivery?
P.S. Atlas Shrugged quote is right on the money. One could quote 3/4 of the book
As a follow-up to Ayn Rand; I posit; Barack Hussein Obama greenlighted the 7/13/2024 failed CIA assassination of Donald J. Trump and here is why:
Do you remember that time in 2016 when Attorney General Loretta Lynch decided she would take a private meeting with Bill Clinton on her plane as it was parked on the tarmac in Phoenix – while Bill’s wife, Hillary Clinton (when she was Obama’s Secretary of State), was under federal investigation for using a secret and unlawful private email server at her New York home, to receive thousands of top secret and classified government emails?
With the obvious corruption of the Phoenix tarmac meeting in mind; it is my humble opinion that our Constitutional Republic permanently fell during the 2016 presidential election cycle on July 5 when FBI Director James Comey ignored the rule of law and “exonerated” Hillary Clinton for the illegal server and the thousands of her classified emails. At that point in American history, the “rule of law” in the USA began its demise and because the constitutional provisions for criminal trial remedy to the ensuing felonious acts and omissions (think FISA Court - “Crossfire Hurricane”) of James Comey, (et al) were never pursued; our Constitutional Republic has fallen and is irreparable…... and the 2022 FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago along with the four unconstitutional indictments of Donald J. Trump and the “Bragg show trial in New York”, and the two failed Trump assassination attempts is proof We the People now live in a banana republic.
Please be cognizant: The Comey/Hillary Clinton exoneration was three weeks prior to a July 2016 Oval Office meeting orchestrated by President Barack Hussein Obama and Valerie Jarrett and attended by Vice President Joe Biden, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, national security adviser Susan Rice and CIA Director John Brennan.
According to CIA Director John Brennan’s handwritten notes, Brennan informed attendees of “alleged approval by Hillary Clinton" on July 26, 2016, of “a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisors to vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by Russian security services.” In other words, a scandal about collusion with Russia. According to a CIA memo, the intent of this plan was “distracting the public from her use of a private email server.”
Later it was shown that the plan was enacted via the Steele dossier, which Robby Mook, Clinton’s former campaign director, acknowledged under oath in 2022 to have procured. So explosive were Brennan’s notes that U.S. senators needed a federal court order, issued four years after Obama’s Oval Office meeting, to wrest a copy of it from the Department of Justice. Released along with Brennan’s notes was a copy of a CIA memo sent to FBI Director James Comey and Peter Strzok, (the deputy assistant director of the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division and manager of FBI’s “Crossfire Hurricane”), delineating the Barack Hussein Obama’s Oval Office meeting’s discussion.
That is why I posit; Barack Hussein Obama greenlighted the 7/13/2024 failed CIA assassination of Donald J. Trump
She ever showed promised ONLY to those who liked what she was saying but not how. Her talking in fallacies made me uncomfortable from the get go. Go back as far as you want and listen again carefully.
A "banana republic" can be described as: “A highly stratified, politically unstable, socioeconomic structure, with a small ruling class that controls access to the national banks, government institutions/courts and natural resources.”
Considering the fact there are children who are victims of Epstein's "Pedophile Island"; obviously the Trump DOJ/FBI do not fear the wrath of the Living God.
Do you recall where Jesus spoke about sufferings of the little children and the millstone in Mark 9: 42? “But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea."
See some public schools in the USA where school boards and some teachers still think they have the right to secretly encourage elementary students about becoming trans.
Let’s take her first argument: pictures of tapes. Remember pictures of documents from Mar A Lago which later have been proved to be plented by FBI agents?
Do I need to say more?
That’s typical Candice argumentation. Has anyone ever shown that a single tape contained any evidence of alleged?
Having said that, I predicted this ending to the story simply from the FACT of the destruction of 10 cell phones used by the Muller team with no repercussions to anyone, etc. etc.
Journalist Whitney Webb has a gift for locating corrupt political power: In her new two-volume book, “One Nation Under Blackmail: The Sordid Union Between Intelligence and Crime that Gave Rise to Jeffrey Epstein,” Webb exposes the dark truth about Epstein’s extensive criminal operations and the connections to entire networks of power and influence — a web of elites that infiltrates the highest ranks of every sector, including law enforcement, art, Wall Street, Silicon Valley, big business, real estate, philanthropy, media, academia, banking and more.
Webb joined "The Glenn Beck Podcast" to expose just how deep Epstein's vast network of corruption and power really went. Was Epstein a government informant? How big is the scandal's body count? And of course, did Epstein actually kill himself?
I think he probably did kill himself - a jail cell and the almost certainty of a rest of your life prison sentence weighs heavy on any man's soul. However, there's been so man f*ckups with this whole thing that they need to release the video from his cell with no blurring and then everyone can see how he died. PS - I wouldn't put it past the Clintons to off him.
But that would mean he did something wrong, which now, it looks like there wasn't much (wink wink). Only a fool gathers evidence against top politicians AND threatens to use it, unless he had handlers and they made it known that he is their man. That way he could have stayed alive and done his thing. But then, did the news about who he is and what he does not spread so that more politicians, millionaires etc did not fall for the bait? Strange.
I’m 70 in November. Kennedy was assassinated the day before my 8th Birthday. So I’ve been around the block more than a few times. Trust me, the house is still burning and this is definitely NOT OK. If you don’t see this, you will sooner than later.
I see it, but accept that we citizens will never know everything we'd like and deserve to. For instance, I don't want to know how a war is fought if it's in the best interest of my country that certain things need to be kept confidential.
Regarding JFK, I don't think Oswald acted alone, but so much time has passed that uncovering a CIA covert plot will serve nothing but satisfying curiosity...it will not stop them from acting again.
I've come to care much more about things that affect me directly, like restoring law and order, facilitating and managing for economic growth, exposing and stopping government waste, fraud, and theft.
The house is not burning, as in it's in danger of total destruction.
After 8 years of Obama & 4 of Biden, we have an honest and capable steward back at the helm who deserves our support.
Honest and capable... I feel it's more like maga likes Trump's delivery (sorta casual and easy going with little chuckles here and there) and they like what he says, and he says what they want to hear. So when he says "they're eating the cats... they're eating the dogs type stuff, they know what he's inferring and they're grateful rather than disdainful.
So while some might feel Trump is lying or delusional or crazy, his voters either are low info/involvement and just live their lives or liking the gist of what he's said so don't think of these as mistruths, I don't think. It's become his signature, so he's really able to get away with it. And it's so frequent, it's annoying to have every little thing about the guy picked apart. Focus on the big stuff, like his love of autocracies and the way he talks suggests he'd like to lead one.
In the long run, after another generation has digested what's happening now, I'm confident the one thing Trump will be widely admired for was his willingness to say the unsayable. Obviously, that has its limits with Trump, and sadly, what remains is not enough to "save" the country.
I don't care if I sound like Mother Theresa or Adolf Hitler. They both liked ice cream, did you know? If it's right, it's right. F*ck guilt by association -- it's a diabolical distraction.
Hamas bears sole responsibility for deaths in Gaza. I'm for removing all Palestinians from Gaza and summarily executing all Hamas or sending them to El Salvador.
What if Trump knows there are Republicans on the Epstein list and transparency would derail his America 1st agenda currently in-flight?
What if Trump is in possession of the ultimate ‘trump card’ of many US, Royals and other world leaders on the Epstein island visit list, and his ability to ‘win’ is predicated on those leaders falling in line or he’ll expose.
It’s all still very foggy on what is happening. Pam Bondi, Kash Patel & Don Bongino were all over social media about the Epstein list prior to joining the administration. And now this weird post on DOJ website, then DOJ website goes down. And none of these 3 has said anything about it.
Something bigger could be at play we can’t yet see?
Really? I’m just asking questions. Why you gotta throw around labels? Usually people that do that want to silence conversation. Is that what you are doing?
What you are doing is trying to conjure into existence facts not in evidence, in order to make excuses for your hero. We saw Obama cultists do the same thing for eight years.
I can't imagine that Joe Biden's lefty White House/DOJ sat on a list with REPUBLICANS for four years and didn't use that info to its advantage. Definitely a shake down going on, but I don't think it's against Republicans.
Trump telling reporter today that it was ridiculous to ask about Epstein, in light of weird DOJ memo, was ridiculous. I’m MAGA but Trump trying to whitewash this away is going to stain him. Unless there is something else up I can’t see.
Everyone wants the list. Everyone wants closure. But real power doesn’t close loops—it leaves them open, fraying, unresolved. That’s how power survives: not by clarity, but by implication. You don’t need to destroy your enemies. Just hint that they’re on the list.
And as for the people on it—some of them are probably praying that day never comes. Others are already dead. And a few are wondering whether their association with Epstein will remain a footnote or become the headline of their obituary.
Good take. This episode could be Trump ‘showing’ his ability to ‘control’ the Epstein list, for those he’s negotiating with. And those he negotiating with it’s been made known privately that they are on list. But this ‘event’ could be Daddy Trump letting them know the list is still there and he holds the strings. This may be an expression of that power. I mean, we had Pam Bondi on camera stating there was a list. And now, a report ‘there is no list’ and no comment from Pam. That could be Trump showing someone or ‘many somebodies’ who is the puppet master for another Trump-winning ‘deal’ we can’t yet see.
those "files" are deep in the guts of CIA, Mossad, and any other intel-agency that could plant a wire & cameras.
the first one to try to put him in jail was told to go light, he "belongs to intelligence"
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are there "files" customer lists, dirt? hellyes there is. but not where anyone can just print it and hand it to the NYTimes or anyone else. Maybe get brought out declassified in . . .50-60 years or so (like the Kennedy assassnation stuff coming out now).
Don't release an irrelevant video, with a minute missing, as proof of...whatever. We strongly suspect that the lists compromise important foreign political assets who would be destroyed by release of the list. All domestic participants have been scrubbed. Just tell us that there has been so much covering up that we can not prove what's real. Everyone will believe that. We see that, non-stop.
Agreed. And what really needs to be proved (if possible at some point) is the general institutional players, the scope, and the intents -- simply, "that it happened". So, as much as it pains me to say so, revealing the specific participants is not as important, especially if it gets the vast majority of the country to shift gears to confront corruption.
We've reached a point where we are sure that we are not getting anything resembling the full story/truth. The main question now is, "is anything we hear true."
There's no way they would lie about a man made/US funded virus and kill millions and keep children out of public schools. There is no way they would lie and risk WWIII to blame Putin for a war we clearly instigated. Except they did. They lied about everything. Are they capable of telling the whole truth?
Definitely an intriguing question, but I agree with Sasha that if Trump or Clinton had been in there, we would know. It’s really unfortunate and disappointing, and it’s hard not to believe there is more “there” there. Our government has lied and covered up for really dumb shit, this all needs to be made public to restore some trust.
It seems the calculus by the Trump team is that more transparency will not restore trust. They are very aware of the discord but are choosing to stonewall the questions. Trump has said he could shoot someone and MAGA would still support him. We will see what new crisis will drive this off the top of the list questions.
Trump broke promises on stopping funds to Ukraine, not engaging in unnecessary wars but bombed Iran, and releasing Epstein files; Mossad and Zionists own Trump.
I believe that Trump knows his MAGA base largely doesn’t buy what’s being sold. So I ask myself, why would he try to sell that? I don’t know the answer to that question but I do know that Trump is a consummate deal-maker. So my current thinking is that this blatant lie telling (that there is no list) is for something bigger that isn’t yet known.
If they had something on Trump or vice versa - what about mutually assured destruction? Best for all involved to lay it to rest. Best at least for all who weren’t underaged victims Even if MOST were of age - it’s true many were not. I’m just tired of the practice of covering up everything -lack of transparency on nearly everything whether sex trafficking or mass shootings - leading to endless speculation and conspiracies which is the only outcome to expect from such a practice. Maybe everyone couldn’t handle the truth but I’m tired of a small but mighty powerful part of society getting to choose. Perhaps I’m wrong in my thinking and I should just be grateful and careful what I wish for.
The idea that America will vote against the Trump administration in 2026 and return the corrupt Dems to power because of the Epstein debacle seems a bit ridiculous. There's still very much of a lust for DNC/Deep State prosecutions, and should Trump et al finally get around to fulfilling that promise, the "Blue Wave" is a silly fantasy.
Here is the biggest question for me: Why is Guislane Maxwell in jail? Second only to the first is why would Epstein kill himself (or be whisked away into Witness Protection if you don’t buy the suicide story) over some rich guys sleeping with age appropriate call girls at Little St. James?
This is a guy who in 2019, when facing criminal proceedings for sex trafficking, disclosed his total assets as $559,120,954. He was used to hobnobbing with the famous and living a unrestrained life of glamour and gals! His hedonism catched up with him and he was 66. Maybe better to exit gracefully than face the fall when you know what it's like to be on top and what's to come, to say nothing of rotting away physically and being famous as a "pedophile" (aka having sex with very young but presenting as legal age nubile young things - did I say young yet? - AND, ladies don't like being asked their age so I've heard).
I believe that Epstein island was more than just a prostitution ring with age-appropriate women for a couple of reasons.
1. There are plenty of beautiful & willing women without going to an island.
2. The name of the plane was the Lolita express. Named after a child in a novel that an older man was obsessed with.
I don’t know how it gets more obvious than that.
3. Epstein was rumored to be Mossad. ‘By deceit we will wage war.’ Sounds like blackmail to me.
Good point on the "Lolita Express" detail.
Except there was no such plane.
Agreed. There are just too many coincidental details here to ignore.
I suspect Ghislaine Maxwell and Les Wexner probably know more about the details. Certainly Prince Andrew was completely undone by his association with Epstein.
Prince Andrew was the low-hanging fruit.
He was too dumb to not get caught.
I’m gonna need a good explanation eventually on why Trump is a pedophile sympathizer or else this 3x Trump voter will be finding a new political home. I will not vote or associate with those who appear to be okay with child sex trafficking.
I don't see that. The reason being that the biden admin and democrats absolutely would have leaked it (the coup de grâce to Trump). I really believe there are national security issues here and that Epstein was a CIA operative. Just my thoughts.
Making us wait on disclosure does not make him a pedophile sympathizer. He has, in both terms, focused on arresting more pedos than any other leader anywhere. Just relax Matt. It will work out. This is a guy whose motto is "Never, ever, ever Give Up." I don't see him bowing or sucking up to Bibi. I see him setting all the effers up for a yuuuuge takedown.
A quibble, but I would discourage the watering down of the word "pedophile" to include teenagers, especially ones older than both of my parents were when I was a one-year old born in wedlock and they were legally married and on a flight to Japan to join my Dad just assigned there by the Air Force. We now have to ask additional questions before forming an opinion on someone accused of "rape" or "racism" .. words matter.
I get what you're saying. Country of Iraq right now has marriage age minimum of 18, but there is a bill trying to reduce marriage age to 12. In Afghanistan the most common marriage age is 15/16, but some below that. Different cultures have different norms. With the Epstein thing, I've heard that some of the 'victims' were also helping to 'pimp' their friends/acquaintances. Some of the clients may have been well into their 60's and 70's but having a poke with 17 year olds.
I would have added the true fact that my parents are from Alabama, but that sounds like a punchline.
I do not judge from current time against another, too much.
You don’t know this!
In the last 48 hours I heard Trump tell a reporter to stop asking questions about Epstein and his DOJ now say there isn’t a list, but they showed a binder said to hold Epstein docs right after Bondi was confirmed. Even JD Vance said during campaign the info should be made transparent (see his interview w/ Theo Von). This I know, and it’s an incredibly bad look. Maybe it’s a set up or the investigation is on-going and doesn’t want to tip off anyone. But if not, then Trump not providing ‘transparency’ on this subject (while having the ability to do so) would make him, IMO, complicit in cover up. Time will tell.
Epstein is dead, his estate was liquidated to compensate his victims and Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison. When Trump pardons Maxwell, you can claim he's a pedophile sympathizer.
When one client of Epstein/ Maxwell ever gets convicted then get back to me. There seems to be only one ‘John’ who’s been convicted, and he only in court of public opinion:
Prince Andrew
Tell me Jen, how Maxwell gets put away for 20 years but no clients of Maxwell were ever named. How does that even happen?
Until and unless other info comes out, it’s my opinion that Trump is on the ‘list’ that he’d like people to stop talking about.
This all stinks to high heaven.
Yup
Why would you name your plane something so obviously incriminating if you were doing said thing? Wouldn’t you want to be as inconspicuous as possible? That whole angle never made any sense to me.
It was the media/press that came up with the ‘Lolita Express’ nickname.
Me either. REAL bad guys do not monologue their nefarious plans or play stupid word games for the good guys to figure out. The bad guys in the real world are not Batman villains.
Pride
Do you genuinely believe that? Like the people smart enough, well connected enough to do something like this would make it so blatantly obvious?
There was no plane named the "Lolita express".
So it wasn’t an actual plane? Just as expression of the ride?
“The "Lolita Express" is a nickname given to Jeffrey Epstein's private Boeing 727 jet, tail number N908JE
. This name, a reference to Vladimir Nabokov's novel "Lolita" about a middle-aged man's obsession with a young girl, reflects the disturbing allegations surrounding Epstein's use of the plane. The plane has been at the center of allegations of facilitating underage sex trafficking and abuse, allegedly transporting young girls to Epstein's various properties, including his private island, Little St. James.” AI
Read the book, saw the Peter Seller’s movie. There is no plane christened “The Lolita Express”. I can nickname anyone anything, or anything anyone. I will refrain from nicknaming any of your cousins “Lolita Express”. Anyway, just being pedantic.
Sasha I suspect you may be overstating how weighty the Epstein affair is in the minds of most people. I think to most of us it was never more than further proof of the tawdriness and decadence of rich and famous people. In other words, a yawn. Although I admit that any time the CIA/FBI is involved the accompanying stink is always retching.
Can I suggest you read Jeff Childers post today? Epstein story isn’t going away. He frames this latest weird affair as the beginning of a next, more dangerous chapter, and goes on to give 4 possible explanations of what is occurring.
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/semi-transparent-tuesday-july-8-2025?triedRedirect=true
“Epstein is undoubtedly one of the most important stories of our generation. It’s the Rosetta Stone of elite corruption— a case intersecting nearly every electrified rail of conservative, populist, and justified MAGA distrust: globalist depravity, the deep state’s immunity, two-tiered justice, media collusion, basic right and wrong, and child exploitation— and the sickening sense that the worst people in the world are the ones setting the rules.”
Anytime a foreign agent (Epstein was Mossad) is blackmailing US presidents, it’s a big deal.
And Epstein killed himself. Yeah right. Corruption never stops. Faces change, corruption stays the same. Bondi said a while back they were going through the client list and watching hours of video from the Island. Someone is lying. America party? What an 'effing joke. Yeah put Dems back in power, that's a great idea Elon.
Hey Libertarian, can you point me to book or other evidence that points to Epstein as Mossad?
Julie K. Brown, book “Perversion of Justice: The Jeffrey Epstein Story”
Gislaines father & other small hats invloved in the rise of epstine.Virginia Guffre was just "suicided" the whole thing was a mossad op & there is obvious colusion with other three letter agencies. There is whole.lot of there there. those here saying otherwise are on the.payroll.
I wouldent be surprised if epstine is either alive or was in fact murdered. All the cameras inop, guards all asleep yeah right.
No matter who,where or what truth always leaks..
There will have to be watchers riding herd on this for fifty years.
By that time all the players will be dead with nobody left to care.
Then the small hats can do it all again.
Allegedly one of Epstein's girlfriends said that he bragged about being a Mossad agent.
However, a problem that's as great or even greater than the Mossad is "Christian Zionist" theology, which has dumbed down the country and brought this government into abject complicity with genocide.
This is the elephant in the room.
True but as usual the coverup or perceived coverup is where the problem lies.
I suspect the FBI erased whatever “there” was once there. They set up the Trump team like Lucy sets up a football. Personally I think AI / deep fake capability has erased whatever power the Epstein films may had anyway. Our leaders remain deeply conflicted however, most likely paid off by China, Israel, etc.
It no longer takes very many noisies to make a Big Deal/
I just really have to wonder if Congress used the passage of OBBB as leverage to keep the client list from ever seeing the light of day… it’s the timing that I keep thinking about…
If there is no there there, why is Maxwell in jail?
If there is no there there, why was Epstein jailed twice and had to commit suicide (or be killed)?
You need evidence? Indict prosecutors of both Epstein’s imprisonments and the Maxwell’s one for the unlawful imprisonment, and feel free to pile up charges as “you” usually do, then sit back and see evidence flow
Maxwell was convicted of trafficking FOR Epstein personally, procuring young women for his own proclivities, not for trafficking for clients.
lawyer spin. Brother in law is a lawyer. Part of the "education" is convincing yourself of the lies you tell "for the client"
I get the anger and disappointment, but consider that our own Government's deep state funded terrorism, played both sides and assassinated one sitting US POTUS, and controlled our own elections sine the last great turning, why would one think it would be that easy. Logically speaking, that sort of power always plays from the shadows, and has its back doors and parachutes, the common folks have not idea about. Even in daily life we are blind to how the sausage is made.
I think it was George Bernard Shaw, who once said all professions are conspiracies upon the laity. If the butcher knows how the sausage is made and the plumber knows shortcuts to repair plumbing, the professional politicians and deep state operatives have some really dark secrets.
Consider Ghislaine Maxwell's father and how deep this all goes. Know that there are amoral people in dark positions of power that would destroy the world in nuclear holocaust rather than give up their power.
So as a Christian, I pray daily for those fighting the good fight, knowing that the only true justice does not come during our mortal journey.
Couldn’t have said it better myself!
From the FBI memo: "The files relating to Epstein include a large volume of images of Epstein, images and videos of victims who are either minors or appear to be minors, and over ten thousand downloaded videos and images of illegal child sex abuse material and other pornography."
How can there be 10,000 videos and images of "illegal child sex abuse material" and no abusers? Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison for sex trafficking children. Who was she trafficking them to?
Maybe I'm just a cynical GenXer, but I don't buy it at all. Someone abused these children. There may not be an official "Epstein list", but I'm certain the FBI knows some people who committed these crimes.
In the last few weeks we were informed that Epstein definitely committed suicide (despite that bone in his neck that was broken; the one that fractures when you are strangled), the tape recording showing access to his cell miraculously made an appearance (it is a "still" except a minute of the recording is missing so I hear), there is no client list and no flight log (what list was wr showed with all those names of celebs in it?). Jeff was attacked from all sides and accused of terrible crimes when it was that bitch of a Gillaine Maxwell who did terrible things with underage girls right under his nose. At least they removed her from society for the time being.
But serious, watch Candace Owens's video of today (yesterday?) about Epstein's power. Without a deep state his treatment would not have been possible.
“When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing—when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors—when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you—when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice—you may know that your society is doomed.”
Ayn Rand; Atlas Shrugged, 1957
Candance Owens' video on Epstein:
https://youtu.be/3zqHf9NWY40?si=kTjDSnK2N0j_uajO
Her antisemitism has rendered her irrelevant at best. Tragically. She once showed real promise.
People have really got to stop conflating criticism of Israel with"antisemitism." It will get Jewish people killed someday.
Now, being opposed to genocide gets you labeled an ‘anti-Semite’
Now you are talking like Candice Owens in fallacies.
Do define genocide.
FYI: I know very little about Ms. Candance Owens.
That said, I viewed the Candance Owens' YouTube content on Epstein independent of any preconceived logical fallacy such as your ad hominem attack alleging anti-Semitism behavior by Candance Owens.
Sharon, you have made an objection to the Owens' YouTube content by appealing to a characteristic or belief of Owens', rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against her claims about the Trump DOJ/FBI Epstein coverup. It is an attempt by you to argue against Owens claims of DOJ/FBI corruption by discrediting her and not arguing her claim on its face. A personal attack by you instead of debating the substance of the Candance Owens content on the Epstein DOJ/FBI coverup and national disgrace.
“ FYI: I know very little about Ms. Candance Owens.
That said, I viewed the Candance Owens' YouTube content on Epstein independent of any preconceived logical fallacy …”
Bingo!! Go as far back as you wish and listen to her. Candice speaking in fallacies made me uncomfortable from the get go, way before she turned anti-Semitic.
Having said that, I don’t think there is anyone and even their grandmother who believes current “development” in the Epstein case. I’ve been predicting that no there there would be found for one simple reason: some of us are allowed to destroy evidence with impunity. Remember 10 cell phones destroyed after the Muller report delivery?
P.S. Atlas Shrugged quote is right on the money. One could quote 3/4 of the book
As a follow-up to Ayn Rand; I posit; Barack Hussein Obama greenlighted the 7/13/2024 failed CIA assassination of Donald J. Trump and here is why:
Do you remember that time in 2016 when Attorney General Loretta Lynch decided she would take a private meeting with Bill Clinton on her plane as it was parked on the tarmac in Phoenix – while Bill’s wife, Hillary Clinton (when she was Obama’s Secretary of State), was under federal investigation for using a secret and unlawful private email server at her New York home, to receive thousands of top secret and classified government emails?
With the obvious corruption of the Phoenix tarmac meeting in mind; it is my humble opinion that our Constitutional Republic permanently fell during the 2016 presidential election cycle on July 5 when FBI Director James Comey ignored the rule of law and “exonerated” Hillary Clinton for the illegal server and the thousands of her classified emails. At that point in American history, the “rule of law” in the USA began its demise and because the constitutional provisions for criminal trial remedy to the ensuing felonious acts and omissions (think FISA Court - “Crossfire Hurricane”) of James Comey, (et al) were never pursued; our Constitutional Republic has fallen and is irreparable…... and the 2022 FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago along with the four unconstitutional indictments of Donald J. Trump and the “Bragg show trial in New York”, and the two failed Trump assassination attempts is proof We the People now live in a banana republic.
Please be cognizant: The Comey/Hillary Clinton exoneration was three weeks prior to a July 2016 Oval Office meeting orchestrated by President Barack Hussein Obama and Valerie Jarrett and attended by Vice President Joe Biden, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, national security adviser Susan Rice and CIA Director John Brennan.
According to CIA Director John Brennan’s handwritten notes, Brennan informed attendees of “alleged approval by Hillary Clinton" on July 26, 2016, of “a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisors to vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by Russian security services.” In other words, a scandal about collusion with Russia. According to a CIA memo, the intent of this plan was “distracting the public from her use of a private email server.”
Later it was shown that the plan was enacted via the Steele dossier, which Robby Mook, Clinton’s former campaign director, acknowledged under oath in 2022 to have procured. So explosive were Brennan’s notes that U.S. senators needed a federal court order, issued four years after Obama’s Oval Office meeting, to wrest a copy of it from the Department of Justice. Released along with Brennan’s notes was a copy of a CIA memo sent to FBI Director James Comey and Peter Strzok, (the deputy assistant director of the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division and manager of FBI’s “Crossfire Hurricane”), delineating the Barack Hussein Obama’s Oval Office meeting’s discussion.
That is why I posit; Barack Hussein Obama greenlighted the 7/13/2024 failed CIA assassination of Donald J. Trump
She ever showed promised ONLY to those who liked what she was saying but not how. Her talking in fallacies made me uncomfortable from the get go. Go back as far as you want and listen again carefully.
Many many many questions to which I'm sure there will be NO honest answers.
This is both disgusting and discouraging.
A "banana republic" can be described as: “A highly stratified, politically unstable, socioeconomic structure, with a small ruling class that controls access to the national banks, government institutions/courts and natural resources.”
Considering the fact there are children who are victims of Epstein's "Pedophile Island"; obviously the Trump DOJ/FBI do not fear the wrath of the Living God.
Do you recall where Jesus spoke about sufferings of the little children and the millstone in Mark 9: 42? “But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea."
See some public schools in the USA where school boards and some teachers still think they have the right to secretly encourage elementary students about becoming trans.
She’s brilliant
Let’s take her first argument: pictures of tapes. Remember pictures of documents from Mar A Lago which later have been proved to be plented by FBI agents?
Do I need to say more?
That’s typical Candice argumentation. Has anyone ever shown that a single tape contained any evidence of alleged?
Having said that, I predicted this ending to the story simply from the FACT of the destruction of 10 cell phones used by the Muller team with no repercussions to anyone, etc. etc.
Candace Ownes???? Dear Lord. 🤦♀️
A real investigative journalist. Didn't go to journo school, no, because then she would not be investigative.
Since you don't respect Candance Owens, how about Tucker Carlson's opinion?
https://dailycaller.com/2025/07/08/tucker-carlson-accuses-pam-bondis-doj-of-epstein-cover-up-gives-two-theories/
Tucker Carlson???? Dear Lord.
OK, if you don't like Candance Owens or Tucker Carlson, how about Glenn Beck's disbelief?
https://www.theblaze.com/news/epstein-memo-right-wing-reaction?tpcc=email-breaking
I have found Glenn Beck to be accurate about most current events. He has a great understanding of history and cares deeply that he gets it right.
Or how about Megyn Kelly's opinion?
https://youtu.be/6XpUKV_rMEs?si=KEitovq9Nqer0r_Y
I can only stomach up to 2 of these kooks every month and I've reached my limit and it's only Jul 8th.
Journalist Whitney Webb has a gift for locating corrupt political power: In her new two-volume book, “One Nation Under Blackmail: The Sordid Union Between Intelligence and Crime that Gave Rise to Jeffrey Epstein,” Webb exposes the dark truth about Epstein’s extensive criminal operations and the connections to entire networks of power and influence — a web of elites that infiltrates the highest ranks of every sector, including law enforcement, art, Wall Street, Silicon Valley, big business, real estate, philanthropy, media, academia, banking and more.
Webb joined "The Glenn Beck Podcast" to expose just how deep Epstein's vast network of corruption and power really went. Was Epstein a government informant? How big is the scandal's body count? And of course, did Epstein actually kill himself?
https://youtu.be/w-d3jFIGxdQ?si=wDnmVP4UkXo8YRbp
Racist much?
You sure feel sorry for "Jeff." Why didn't he kick Maxwell out iif she was doing "terrible things with underage girls right under his nose?"
I think he probably did kill himself - a jail cell and the almost certainty of a rest of your life prison sentence weighs heavy on any man's soul. However, there's been so man f*ckups with this whole thing that they need to release the video from his cell with no blurring and then everyone can see how he died. PS - I wouldn't put it past the Clintons to off him.
You can't break the hyoid bone in the neck by hanging yourself from a doorknob.
But that would mean he did something wrong, which now, it looks like there wasn't much (wink wink). Only a fool gathers evidence against top politicians AND threatens to use it, unless he had handlers and they made it known that he is their man. That way he could have stayed alive and done his thing. But then, did the news about who he is and what he does not spread so that more politicians, millionaires etc did not fall for the bait? Strange.
I took about 30 days for me to become disillusioned with Obama. With Trump it’s taken 6 months. And no, you can’t change my opinion with candy.
IF the Trump admin. is hiding something, does that outweigh all the good he has done?
Do I need to list all of his accomplishments as a reminder?
I’m 70 in November. Kennedy was assassinated the day before my 8th Birthday. So I’ve been around the block more than a few times. Trust me, the house is still burning and this is definitely NOT OK. If you don’t see this, you will sooner than later.
I see it, but accept that we citizens will never know everything we'd like and deserve to. For instance, I don't want to know how a war is fought if it's in the best interest of my country that certain things need to be kept confidential.
Regarding JFK, I don't think Oswald acted alone, but so much time has passed that uncovering a CIA covert plot will serve nothing but satisfying curiosity...it will not stop them from acting again.
I've come to care much more about things that affect me directly, like restoring law and order, facilitating and managing for economic growth, exposing and stopping government waste, fraud, and theft.
The house is not burning, as in it's in danger of total destruction.
After 8 years of Obama & 4 of Biden, we have an honest and capable steward back at the helm who deserves our support.
Honest and capable... I feel it's more like maga likes Trump's delivery (sorta casual and easy going with little chuckles here and there) and they like what he says, and he says what they want to hear. So when he says "they're eating the cats... they're eating the dogs type stuff, they know what he's inferring and they're grateful rather than disdainful.
So while some might feel Trump is lying or delusional or crazy, his voters either are low info/involvement and just live their lives or liking the gist of what he's said so don't think of these as mistruths, I don't think. It's become his signature, so he's really able to get away with it. And it's so frequent, it's annoying to have every little thing about the guy picked apart. Focus on the big stuff, like his love of autocracies and the way he talks suggests he'd like to lead one.
In the long run, after another generation has digested what's happening now, I'm confident the one thing Trump will be widely admired for was his willingness to say the unsayable. Obviously, that has its limits with Trump, and sadly, what remains is not enough to "save" the country.
You sound like Michelle Obama
I don't care if I sound like Mother Theresa or Adolf Hitler. They both liked ice cream, did you know? If it's right, it's right. F*ck guilt by association -- it's a diabolical distraction.
I admire your patience.
You had years since 2016.
Sadly… I think Trump has been gotten to…
Weapons to Ukraine still…
Netanyahu close with Trump
Elon starting a party
Trump not dealing with the debt…
Who has gotten to him? Paula White?
Who knows…
Trump gets his orders from Tel Aviv.
As the old say goes.....ROTFLMAO!!!
Its fairly obvious you know Nothing about Donald Trump.
I know a Zionist bitch boy when I see one ….. Steve.
Spoken like a (not particularly bright) 14 year old.
Question: Do you wear a Brown or a Black shirt and where do you get your Jodhpurs?
Spoken like someone who endorses the Gaza Holocaust and Genocide by Zionists.
Hamas bears sole responsibility for deaths in Gaza. I'm for removing all Palestinians from Gaza and summarily executing all Hamas or sending them to El Salvador.
What if Trump knows there are Republicans on the Epstein list and transparency would derail his America 1st agenda currently in-flight?
What if Trump is in possession of the ultimate ‘trump card’ of many US, Royals and other world leaders on the Epstein island visit list, and his ability to ‘win’ is predicated on those leaders falling in line or he’ll expose.
It’s all still very foggy on what is happening. Pam Bondi, Kash Patel & Don Bongino were all over social media about the Epstein list prior to joining the administration. And now this weird post on DOJ website, then DOJ website goes down. And none of these 3 has said anything about it.
Something bigger could be at play we can’t yet see?
Qamon logic, right there.
Really? I’m just asking questions. Why you gotta throw around labels? Usually people that do that want to silence conversation. Is that what you are doing?
Sounds like your mind is made up.
It’s actually not. And that’s why I’m posing questions. I don’t know what is going on, but I’m trying to read the tea leaves.
What you are doing is trying to conjure into existence facts not in evidence, in order to make excuses for your hero. We saw Obama cultists do the same thing for eight years.
I can't imagine that Joe Biden's lefty White House/DOJ sat on a list with REPUBLICANS for four years and didn't use that info to its advantage. Definitely a shake down going on, but I don't think it's against Republicans.
Trump telling reporter today that it was ridiculous to ask about Epstein, in light of weird DOJ memo, was ridiculous. I’m MAGA but Trump trying to whitewash this away is going to stain him. Unless there is something else up I can’t see.
Who knows? I pretty much know you live in a bubble of make believe.
Everyone wants the list. Everyone wants closure. But real power doesn’t close loops—it leaves them open, fraying, unresolved. That’s how power survives: not by clarity, but by implication. You don’t need to destroy your enemies. Just hint that they’re on the list.
And as for the people on it—some of them are probably praying that day never comes. Others are already dead. And a few are wondering whether their association with Epstein will remain a footnote or become the headline of their obituary.
Good take. This episode could be Trump ‘showing’ his ability to ‘control’ the Epstein list, for those he’s negotiating with. And those he negotiating with it’s been made known privately that they are on list. But this ‘event’ could be Daddy Trump letting them know the list is still there and he holds the strings. This may be an expression of that power. I mean, we had Pam Bondi on camera stating there was a list. And now, a report ‘there is no list’ and no comment from Pam. That could be Trump showing someone or ‘many somebodies’ who is the puppet master for another Trump-winning ‘deal’ we can’t yet see.
Agree, could be yet another Trump card.
those "files" are deep in the guts of CIA, Mossad, and any other intel-agency that could plant a wire & cameras.
the first one to try to put him in jail was told to go light, he "belongs to intelligence"
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are there "files" customer lists, dirt? hellyes there is. but not where anyone can just print it and hand it to the NYTimes or anyone else. Maybe get brought out declassified in . . .50-60 years or so (like the Kennedy assassnation stuff coming out now).
Epstein is Mossad and alive and well in Israel.
Must write this movie.
Pretty sure Hollywood isn’t going to fund a movie casting a Jew in a pedophile light.
Where is a Snowden when you need one?
I’m guessing they are all guilty? If they are allowed to play and earn mega money… they are compromised.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/07/the_government_s_problem_with_jeffrey_epstein.html
Don't release an irrelevant video, with a minute missing, as proof of...whatever. We strongly suspect that the lists compromise important foreign political assets who would be destroyed by release of the list. All domestic participants have been scrubbed. Just tell us that there has been so much covering up that we can not prove what's real. Everyone will believe that. We see that, non-stop.
Agreed. And what really needs to be proved (if possible at some point) is the general institutional players, the scope, and the intents -- simply, "that it happened". So, as much as it pains me to say so, revealing the specific participants is not as important, especially if it gets the vast majority of the country to shift gears to confront corruption.
We've reached a point where we are sure that we are not getting anything resembling the full story/truth. The main question now is, "is anything we hear true."
There's no way they would lie about a man made/US funded virus and kill millions and keep children out of public schools. There is no way they would lie and risk WWIII to blame Putin for a war we clearly instigated. Except they did. They lied about everything. Are they capable of telling the whole truth?
I agree on the missing video - just try showing your wife "some" of your texts when she's found incriminating evidence of an affair.
A 'nothing burger"? Or a means by which Trump has a deal with Democrats to allow less opposition to his efforts?
Definitely an intriguing question, but I agree with Sasha that if Trump or Clinton had been in there, we would know. It’s really unfortunate and disappointing, and it’s hard not to believe there is more “there” there. Our government has lied and covered up for really dumb shit, this all needs to be made public to restore some trust.
It seems the calculus by the Trump team is that more transparency will not restore trust. They are very aware of the discord but are choosing to stonewall the questions. Trump has said he could shoot someone and MAGA would still support him. We will see what new crisis will drive this off the top of the list questions.
Why would Trump need a deal with Team D if he has The Epstein Files and their presumed treasure trove of embarrassing information?
So much for "drain the swamp!(tm)"
Trump broke promises on stopping funds to Ukraine, not engaging in unnecessary wars but bombed Iran, and releasing Epstein files; Mossad and Zionists own Trump.
Not to mention buddying up with al Qaeda.
Yup, but watch the excuses pour in for their hero.
Because the list also has prominent R’s on it - and exposing list could derail his agenda. That’s a pretty easy logic to grasp Feral?
So much for "Drain the Swamp!(tm)" and of course Trump could never get anything done without compromised politicians, no, unthinkable...
I don't know which side is right. I will say A LOT of people are NOT buying what the Trump Administration is selling on this.
I believe that Trump knows his MAGA base largely doesn’t buy what’s being sold. So I ask myself, why would he try to sell that? I don’t know the answer to that question but I do know that Trump is a consummate deal-maker. So my current thinking is that this blatant lie telling (that there is no list) is for something bigger that isn’t yet known.
If they had something on Trump or vice versa - what about mutually assured destruction? Best for all involved to lay it to rest. Best at least for all who weren’t underaged victims Even if MOST were of age - it’s true many were not. I’m just tired of the practice of covering up everything -lack of transparency on nearly everything whether sex trafficking or mass shootings - leading to endless speculation and conspiracies which is the only outcome to expect from such a practice. Maybe everyone couldn’t handle the truth but I’m tired of a small but mighty powerful part of society getting to choose. Perhaps I’m wrong in my thinking and I should just be grateful and careful what I wish for.
The idea that America will vote against the Trump administration in 2026 and return the corrupt Dems to power because of the Epstein debacle seems a bit ridiculous. There's still very much of a lust for DNC/Deep State prosecutions, and should Trump et al finally get around to fulfilling that promise, the "Blue Wave" is a silly fantasy.
Here is the biggest question for me: Why is Guislane Maxwell in jail? Second only to the first is why would Epstein kill himself (or be whisked away into Witness Protection if you don’t buy the suicide story) over some rich guys sleeping with age appropriate call girls at Little St. James?
This is a guy who in 2019, when facing criminal proceedings for sex trafficking, disclosed his total assets as $559,120,954. He was used to hobnobbing with the famous and living a unrestrained life of glamour and gals! His hedonism catched up with him and he was 66. Maybe better to exit gracefully than face the fall when you know what it's like to be on top and what's to come, to say nothing of rotting away physically and being famous as a "pedophile" (aka having sex with very young but presenting as legal age nubile young things - did I say young yet? - AND, ladies don't like being asked their age so I've heard).