There was no more time to wait.... diplomacy was given every opportunity. America has been supporting Israel with weapons shipments, especially those enormous bunker buster bombs that are successive strikes in the same place, like a drill hammer. I am sure there was also satellite support and logistics. The USA already had moved several B2 stealth bomber to the base in the Indian Ocean at Diego Garcia should Iran be foolish enough to strike at USA bases. It is possible those bombers have nuke warheads on board. Israel has prepared for this day for over 10 years, ever since Barack Obama dithered and appeased, by shipping truckloads of money and gold bars to the Iranian regime, which they then used to arm their militias surrounding Israel. Much of the Iranian leadership was decapitated. There will be a response. We hope they do not already have a nuke they have been hiding
There is no doubt that the CIA was corrupt and wrong, which is something that this administration has vowed to end and I hope they succeed. That doesn't change that the Iran regime want us dead and most probably would even without the meddling due to the fact that they are a hotbed of Islamic extremism. I don't want direct US involvement here but if Iran truly is on the verge of nuclear weapons (this time) then they would use it on Tel Aviv. No doubt. This is their stated goal of such a weapons program. This is existential for Isreal, and they need to do what they need to do.
What I don't want is for one US plane to get a ding and then we launch ourselves into all out participation. I am hoping Trump and the cautionary voices inside MAGA can ensure this doesn't happen.
I didn't say replace, I said they vowed to end the corruption, whether that be reform, replace or just ending it. At this point in time they appear to be going the reform route.
I wouldn't mind going back to the system we had before the CIA was founded in 1947 and just create temporary services to respond to specific events, like the Office of Strategic Services in response to WWII (formed 1942 and disbanded 1945) or the Strategic Services Unit formed directly after, acting as a consultant group with limited power, much like DOGE, and disbanded with the formation of the CIA as we currently know it.
Maybe we don't need the CIA to gather data. It's arguably one of the most corrupt government agencies in our nations history.
Iran was a nice civilized country and prosperous before the revolted and overthrew the Shah with a Theocratic government bent on Jihad against the West and Israel. About time someone bombed these savages.
It's true that the hard-core communists hated us, but most Iranians loved America and the freedoms we take for granted, with many traveling here in the 60s & 70s for university, work, and as tourists.
I knew some of them and they were terrified at the possibility of being tortured or murdered by SAVAK when they returned to Iran. Some of the Iranian students were spies for the government.
Yes, without doubt, the Shah's Iran was rabidly anti-communist and his SAVAK could be ruthless in their pursuit of them. It was the Cold War and the Shah was very threatened by Soviet expansion.
Two points still stand. 1) Diplomacy isn't working with the current regime. 2) Westernized Iran doesn't exist anymore.
I agree we should continue to attempt negotiation, but we aren't negotiating with the regime of 50 years ago, we are negotiating with the Islamic extremists that run the government now. Whatever legit past gripes Iran has for our behavior 75 years ago, they still want us dead now and don't seem to want to negotiate. We need to stay out of this and not escalate, but also not downplay who we are dealing with or excuse their current intentions due to bad behavior on our part nearly 100 years ago.
You saw and heard exactly what the establishment wanted you to see and hear so you would support their lust for war. You let them manufacture consent to support their interests, not your own.
So, lets just wait until Iran has nuclear bombs, and threatens and blackmails the rest of the world? And don't say they wouldn't do that. You know damn well they would.
Israel never acts in the best interests of anyone but itself. Also only a naive fool would believe that this attack was carried out without assistance from the US. Israel didn’t save anyone.
The Zionists have bribed Trump, Republicans and Democrats to send Christian Americans to go fight and die for Israel, but the American Zionists won’t go because virtually none of them are in the military. And the pro-war commenters here didn’t serve in the military either. It’s going to be another foreign war bloodbath for young Christian men while the Epsteins party on their yachts.
Anyone who disagrees with Trump’s policies on anything is accused of having TDS. Kind of like anyone who disagrees with Israeli evil is accused of antisemitism. I voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020. I stopped voting in 2024.
I'd ask if you are really that ignorant, but its kind of ... no. VERY obvious you are. You are one of those 'blame everything on *zionists*. Like no one has any mind of their own.
Put down the energy drink, get out of the basement. Your brain needs some fresh air.
This is a fantasy. If the US could, they would have destroyed both Iran and Russia and be on their way to destroy China. The US has lost the arms race. Forever. The US just handed Afghanistan back to the Taliban, and Yemen has booted us out of the Red Sea. Russia ate our lunch in Ukraine, and now Iran is going to erase the Zionist entity from the land stolen for them by the British. All the US and the British can successfully orchestrate now is terrorism, including against their own populations.
Trump said yesterday that the Iran talks were not going well. Then pulled our people out of the region. Remarked that Israel has to do what they have to do in order to protect themselves. Israel is an ally, Trump admin will provide some support but I don’t believe this will be our proxy war. Unlike Ukraine.
he pulled American people out of the region while everyone was looking at La Resistance La Riots La National Guard La Marines. The pullout was massively underreported so one has to wonder if that was the goal. Make it invisible. Point being, that's what Presidents should do, always look for what's next while everyone elese is stuck in a moment that passed without realizing it. Look at Democrats. They are still rallying behind Newsom, Padilla, etc while the momentum shifted to Israel and Iran. No good politician rfuns behind news. They create news.
My take on Iran's nuclear program is a bit different from the usual. I think their intent is to neutralize Israel's nukes, so that an overwhelming ground attack can someday succeed. I have never thought their intent was to launch a first strike. Nonetheless, nuclear proliferation is a very serious problem, one we have lost control of in recent years, and I certainly hope that the Israeli efforts succeed. I really really wish that the Saudis had long ago built some pipelines ending at the Indian Ocean. As it is now, if Iran's oil exports are blocked, all oil exports thru the Straits of Hormuz will be blocked. I suppose the Western Hemisphere has enough oil to take care of itself. The Europeans could be in big trouble. But since they appear to be doomed anyway, due to letting so many Muslims in, maybe it does not matter. We live in "interesting times".
you might have noticed a first strike on October 7, 2023? Constant shelling from southern Lebanon and the Houthis? no? A chance to be taken, no thanks.
They have been promising for years to build a nuke and use it on the US and Israel. This has been inevitable for years. Obamas Iran deal was intended to delay their nuke until 2024. That was last year. Obama was an idiot
40 years we have been told Iran is weeks away, always used to bait US into war. 40 years. This has been Bibi’s schtik for 40 years. Reagan was smart enough to turn away. But Trump and his neocon wing were too weak to resist the lies. Hence Tulsi symbolically went to Hiroshima this week, signaling that the neocons have won. War is ugly and Americans have no clue whatsoever.
The pro-war commenters here have no clue about war and don’t care because none of them served in the military and none will be sending a child over to go get killed. They’re Zionists who froth at the mouth with the opportunity to send Christian Americans to go die for Israel. Very brave of them to be pro-war but never risk harm to themselves or their loved ones.
Some of us are intimately familiar with both just and unjust war.
Some of us are even intimately familiar with this specific enemy.
Since 1979, Iran has repeatedly attacked those who impede the regime's ambition of Shiite control of the Middle East - the U.S., Iraq, Israel, the Gulf States, and Saudi Arabia, among others.
War is always unpleasant. Often, it's unjustified. This is not one of those unjustified conflicts.
I’m sure the radical Islamists will be grateful to Christians who came to their defense while they slaughtered Jews. But not grateful enough to tolerate your infidel religion.
I hope the U.S. was involved with at least signal intelligence and remote sensing. It's in everyone's best interest, except for the Mad Mullahs and their Revolutionary Guard, that targeting is precise.
No one wants war. But if an enemy threatens to annihilate you and is close to having the means, a country has no choice but to defend itself. Israel is doing what the UN charter says they are allowed to do. No one should have any complaints. Obama, Biden and Trump gave diplomacy every chance over the past 10+ years
Is this a serious question or a snide remark? You mention "solution". First, what's the problem? Understanding the answers (note plural) must start with acknowledging that emotion drives out reason. Most commentary on the subject, both here and elsewhere, drips with emotion. Your comment doesn't start well.
Look up Operation Ajax - UK-US operation in early 1950s to over throw Iran’s leader their people voted for - the beginning of our MIC and our destructive interventionist foreign policy that has harmed too many generations since. We started it in the 1950s!
Yes, I'm familiar with the story. My cousin is married to a Persian man whose Christian family fled Iran at the prospect of the takeover by a communist regime. Iran was much, much better off under the pro-west, pro-liberty Shah than it would have been as a Soviet puppet-state.
No doubt that Iran was better off under western civilization but that’s up to the Iranians to figure out. Plus, we have our own natural resources to exploit; we don’t need other countries resources.
America’s interventionist foreign policy has caused nothing but destructive wars around the world.
I'm an exploration geologist with 40 years of field experience and I can assure you that the U.S. does not have all the natural resources we need. Nowhere near enough to sustain our standard of living. We'd have to reduce the population by 90% to achieve that.
I'm sympathetic with your reluctance to engage in foreign entanglements. We've been stupid about this. The FUBAR over Ukraine is a great example of this. Like Churchill told us, "Better to jaw-jaw, than war-war." I think prosperous commerce between the nations is the best way forward and the path away from war.
I had top security clearance and ran the mailroom for a large weapons manufacturer during the Iran hostage crisis in the early 1980s. We continued to sell weapons to Iran throughout the whole thing.
They were - and they weren’t - our enemy. It all depended on perspective, and who was pocketing the profits.
The point was certainly that it didn’t speak highly of my employer (contracted to the U.S. government) or the Carter administration. I’m almost 70, it was 45 years ago, and past two A.M. when I responded: cut me some slack for not bothering to Google the exact date.
It's a tragic necessity. Its a matter of imperialism; be Dhimmi or be dead. Israel tried to cede territory to stop the attacks from regional empire-builders, but that was always doomed to fail. Refusing the offering was the one honest thing the Persian and Arab imperialists did.
I'm praying Trump authorizes the U.S. military to assist Israel when Iran retaliates. I did not find Secretary of State Rubio's comment reassuring. He warned Iran not to retaliate against American forces or bases, distancing the States from Israel in this pre-emptive strike. Israel waited while Trump negotiated and strung things out, following Obama's policy of patient appeasement. Israel waited until Trump's deadline had past, giving time for negotiations to play out and showing respect. Israel is too tiny to survive a first strike nuclear attack, so had no other alternative.
Now all the Jew hating MAGA phonies like tucker carlson having a meltdown because Trump doing what he did during his first term and said he would do during his second term, support Israel, protect Jews, and prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon.
I wonder what part of “Death To America” and “America is the Great Satan” these people fail to understand.
FCinNHyet DrMaturin 2 hours ago
They are so solipsistic that they would only say such things as hyperbole so they assume that's also true of their enemies. (It's projection.) They are actually incapable of understanding that there are millions of people who truly do desire to die in jihad to promote Islam.
Iran is a greater danger to us that Russia or China because although they are not as militarily capable, they cannot be deterred by the concept of MAD. Neither Russia nor China wants to destroy themselves to destroy their adversary, but Iran would. They are like a rabid animal, with no sense of self-preservation. That's what makes them so dangerous.
The line is now clearly drawn. Let's see who supports Iran and who supports the Jews. The boots on the ground argument is a canard( weapons are not boots on the ground). In the meantime let's ask who Iran's allies are and who has been supplying o t about to supply Iran with technology or material that is designed to help Iran ftom A military standpoint. This would never happened if Iran dismantled its nuclear program and abandoned all of its nuclear pursuits and related activities. Or are those out there who see Iran as a force for peace and humanity and that its word is trustworthy.
It's humanity vs Zionists. Not about Iran vs Jews or MAGA or Trump. It's about billionaires and ancient banking families that subscribe to Zionist ideology.
I see how Palestinian infrastructure is totally destroyed because Israel wants the land; how little children are shot between the eyes by snipers; how children are bullied by IDF soldiers; how children are stolen and dragged into vans never to be seen again; how captured Palestinians get broom sticks pushed up their anuses; how food destined for Palestinians are hijacked with dire results. I would feel the same about Israelis being treated that way by an enemy.
Both Jews and Palestinians are Semites. I followed the events of 7 Oct in detail. Both sides participated to make it happen. The Jews with the aim of obtaining a good reason to annihilate the Palestinians. I detest Hamas (a creation of Netanyahu) but to destroy everything Palestinians had and kill civilians in their ten thousands, including children with sniper bullets between the eyes, is not on. Read the Balfour Declaration and see what it states. The Israelis are led by tyrants and taught from a young age - like the Palestinians - to hate and mistrust the other.
As a retired researcher I have a reasonable grasp of source verification, staying objective and verifying facts. Those skills revealed to me, early in 2020, that covid was created, that mRNA vaccines would be devastating, that masks and lockdowns don't work, etc. The same skills reveal the lies about CO2. But, thank you. I need to be reminded to remain careful and objective.
There was no more time to wait.... diplomacy was given every opportunity. America has been supporting Israel with weapons shipments, especially those enormous bunker buster bombs that are successive strikes in the same place, like a drill hammer. I am sure there was also satellite support and logistics. The USA already had moved several B2 stealth bomber to the base in the Indian Ocean at Diego Garcia should Iran be foolish enough to strike at USA bases. It is possible those bombers have nuke warheads on board. Israel has prepared for this day for over 10 years, ever since Barack Obama dithered and appeased, by shipping truckloads of money and gold bars to the Iranian regime, which they then used to arm their militias surrounding Israel. Much of the Iranian leadership was decapitated. There will be a response. We hope they do not already have a nuke they have been hiding
NO to war! PERIOD.
USA, STAY OUT OF IT.
NO MORE BEING THE WORLDS POLICE.
The Revolutionary Islamic Republic of Iran has been at war with America since 1979.
And once Regan got those hostages back he should have leveled Tehran and put leaders on trial.
The CIA overthrew the Iranian government in 1953 and installed a dictator. That is why the hated us.
There is no doubt that the CIA was corrupt and wrong, which is something that this administration has vowed to end and I hope they succeed. That doesn't change that the Iran regime want us dead and most probably would even without the meddling due to the fact that they are a hotbed of Islamic extremism. I don't want direct US involvement here but if Iran truly is on the verge of nuclear weapons (this time) then they would use it on Tel Aviv. No doubt. This is their stated goal of such a weapons program. This is existential for Isreal, and they need to do what they need to do.
What I don't want is for one US plane to get a ding and then we launch ourselves into all out participation. I am hoping Trump and the cautionary voices inside MAGA can ensure this doesn't happen.
If you think Republicans or Democrats are going to end CIA evil you are sadly mistaken. Trump is just as controlled as Biden.
I don't think they will and never said I thought they would. They are going the reform route now, with what I believe will be limited success.
"There is no doubt that the CIA was corrupt and wrong, which is something that this administration has vowed to end and I hope they succeed."
And replace it with.....What?
I didn't say replace, I said they vowed to end the corruption, whether that be reform, replace or just ending it. At this point in time they appear to be going the reform route.
I wouldn't mind going back to the system we had before the CIA was founded in 1947 and just create temporary services to respond to specific events, like the Office of Strategic Services in response to WWII (formed 1942 and disbanded 1945) or the Strategic Services Unit formed directly after, acting as a consultant group with limited power, much like DOGE, and disbanded with the formation of the CIA as we currently know it.
Maybe we don't need the CIA to gather data. It's arguably one of the most corrupt government agencies in our nations history.
Iran was a nice civilized country and prosperous before the revolted and overthrew the Shah with a Theocratic government bent on Jihad against the West and Israel. About time someone bombed these savages.
Ask someone about SAVAK. Bloodthirsty Americans and their Israeli masters have no business judging the level of civilization of Iran.
I'll stick with the West over barbarians and goat ef'ers. Too bad the crusades didn't succeed.
It's true that the hard-core communists hated us, but most Iranians loved America and the freedoms we take for granted, with many traveling here in the 60s & 70s for university, work, and as tourists.
Yep, but that is sadly not the case anymore.
I knew some of them and they were terrified at the possibility of being tortured or murdered by SAVAK when they returned to Iran. Some of the Iranian students were spies for the government.
Yes, without doubt, the Shah's Iran was rabidly anti-communist and his SAVAK could be ruthless in their pursuit of them. It was the Cold War and the Shah was very threatened by Soviet expansion.
Exactly. We(our intel agencies) have been fucking around with other countries for far too long.
Economic diplomacy and leverage as Trump - and all predecessors prior to Carter - uses works. Iran and Iraq were fairly westernized by the 70's.
Two points still stand. 1) Diplomacy isn't working with the current regime. 2) Westernized Iran doesn't exist anymore.
I agree we should continue to attempt negotiation, but we aren't negotiating with the regime of 50 years ago, we are negotiating with the Islamic extremists that run the government now. Whatever legit past gripes Iran has for our behavior 75 years ago, they still want us dead now and don't seem to want to negotiate. We need to stay out of this and not escalate, but also not downplay who we are dealing with or excuse their current intentions due to bad behavior on our part nearly 100 years ago.
No disagreement here...
You saw and heard exactly what the establishment wanted you to see and hear so you would support their lust for war. You let them manufacture consent to support their interests, not your own.
This is a lie, propaganda.
What a laughably stupid comment. Has Iran been our ally since 1979? When the 1979 regime chants "Death to America", do they really mean "Aloha!"?
You saw and heard exactly what the establishment wanted you to believe. You let them manufacture consent to support their interests, not yours.
You haven't addressed my questions.
Spoken like a (not very bright) 14 year old.
No more time to wait? I’m not sure I agree with that. This might be the beginning of WW3. Netanyahu is a psychopath.
So, lets just wait until Iran has nuclear bombs, and threatens and blackmails the rest of the world? And don't say they wouldn't do that. You know damn well they would.
Israel acted in the best interest of *everyone*.
Israel never acts in the best interests of anyone but itself. Also only a naive fool would believe that this attack was carried out without assistance from the US. Israel didn’t save anyone.
Because no one else except the USA actually shows up for Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East. You support Hamas?
The Zionists have bribed Trump, Republicans and Democrats to send Christian Americans to go fight and die for Israel, but the American Zionists won’t go because virtually none of them are in the military. And the pro-war commenters here didn’t serve in the military either. It’s going to be another foreign war bloodbath for young Christian men while the Epsteins party on their yachts.
You have probably heard of Trump Derangement Syndrome. There is also an Israel Derangement Syndrome which some show obvious signs of.
Ah! I was unaware. Thank you :)
Anyone who disagrees with Trump’s policies on anything is accused of having TDS. Kind of like anyone who disagrees with Israeli evil is accused of antisemitism. I voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020. I stopped voting in 2024.
Neither Trump Derangement Syndrome nor Israel Derangement Syndrome are about disagreeing with something but about obsessive hatred.
I'd ask if you are really that ignorant, but its kind of ... no. VERY obvious you are. You are one of those 'blame everything on *zionists*. Like no one has any mind of their own.
Put down the energy drink, get out of the basement. Your brain needs some fresh air.
This is a fantasy. If the US could, they would have destroyed both Iran and Russia and be on their way to destroy China. The US has lost the arms race. Forever. The US just handed Afghanistan back to the Taliban, and Yemen has booted us out of the Red Sea. Russia ate our lunch in Ukraine, and now Iran is going to erase the Zionist entity from the land stolen for them by the British. All the US and the British can successfully orchestrate now is terrorism, including against their own populations.
Will Trump & The Trumpsters ever be believed again?
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Time Of Israel Reports That Trump Tricked Iran
With Decoy Diplomacy: "Donald Trump Has
Established Himself In The Last 48 Hours As A
Liar." Larry Johnson, Former CIA Analyst, To
Andrew Napolitano
"Why do you think that Donald Trump kept up this
pretense of being a man of peace while planning
this dastardly attack for months with Bibi Netanyahu?"
Celia Farber
Jun 14
Napolitano Asks Wilkerson, And Other Guests (various videos:
https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/time-of-israel-reports-that-trump
Robotaxi Reveal & Nuke Hoaxers Circle-Jerk + No Kings Protests by Chris Edwards https://teslaleaks.com/f/robotaxi-reveal-nuke-hoaxers-circle-jerk-no-kings-protests - Vladimir Zelenskyy Explains Impending Nuke Hoax Part 6 - English Translation https://nuremberg2.substack.com/p/vladimir-zelenskyy-explains-impending
Nuke Hoax Emergency - There's No Nuke Shelters & No Nuclear Button Either ft Urgent by Chief Justice https://nurembergtrials.net/nuremberg-2-0/f/nuke-hoax-emergency--no-nuke-shelters-no-nuclear-button-ft-urgent
Russia, Israel & Vatican Nuclear Bomb & Nuclear Power Danger Hoax https://nurembergtrials.net/nuremberg-2-0/f/russia-israel-alex-jones-nuke-bomb-nuclear-power-danger-hoax
Nuclear Power Danger Hoax + Manhattan "Project Tesla" - Fusion https://nurembergtrials.net/nuremberg-2-0/f/tesla-westinghouse-nuclear-power-danger-hoaxproject-independence
Debunking Einstein + Nuke Hoax 3 by Chief Justice https://nurembergtrials.net/nuremberg-2-0/f/teslaleakscom-debunking-einstein-nuke-hoax-3-by-chief-justice
God bless Israel and her people
I hope you go there and fight before a single Christian American soldier does given how obviously brave you are.
Trump said yesterday that the Iran talks were not going well. Then pulled our people out of the region. Remarked that Israel has to do what they have to do in order to protect themselves. Israel is an ally, Trump admin will provide some support but I don’t believe this will be our proxy war. Unlike Ukraine.
he pulled American people out of the region while everyone was looking at La Resistance La Riots La National Guard La Marines. The pullout was massively underreported so one has to wonder if that was the goal. Make it invisible. Point being, that's what Presidents should do, always look for what's next while everyone elese is stuck in a moment that passed without realizing it. Look at Democrats. They are still rallying behind Newsom, Padilla, etc while the momentum shifted to Israel and Iran. No good politician rfuns behind news. They create news.
My take on Iran's nuclear program is a bit different from the usual. I think their intent is to neutralize Israel's nukes, so that an overwhelming ground attack can someday succeed. I have never thought their intent was to launch a first strike. Nonetheless, nuclear proliferation is a very serious problem, one we have lost control of in recent years, and I certainly hope that the Israeli efforts succeed. I really really wish that the Saudis had long ago built some pipelines ending at the Indian Ocean. As it is now, if Iran's oil exports are blocked, all oil exports thru the Straits of Hormuz will be blocked. I suppose the Western Hemisphere has enough oil to take care of itself. The Europeans could be in big trouble. But since they appear to be doomed anyway, due to letting so many Muslims in, maybe it does not matter. We live in "interesting times".
you might have noticed a first strike on October 7, 2023? Constant shelling from southern Lebanon and the Houthis? no? A chance to be taken, no thanks.
They have been promising for years to build a nuke and use it on the US and Israel. This has been inevitable for years. Obamas Iran deal was intended to delay their nuke until 2024. That was last year. Obama was an idiot
40 years we have been told Iran is weeks away, always used to bait US into war. 40 years. This has been Bibi’s schtik for 40 years. Reagan was smart enough to turn away. But Trump and his neocon wing were too weak to resist the lies. Hence Tulsi symbolically went to Hiroshima this week, signaling that the neocons have won. War is ugly and Americans have no clue whatsoever.
The pro-war commenters here have no clue about war and don’t care because none of them served in the military and none will be sending a child over to go get killed. They’re Zionists who froth at the mouth with the opportunity to send Christian Americans to go die for Israel. Very brave of them to be pro-war but never risk harm to themselves or their loved ones.
You're incorrectly assuming.
Some of us are intimately familiar with both just and unjust war.
Some of us are even intimately familiar with this specific enemy.
Since 1979, Iran has repeatedly attacked those who impede the regime's ambition of Shiite control of the Middle East - the U.S., Iraq, Israel, the Gulf States, and Saudi Arabia, among others.
War is always unpleasant. Often, it's unjustified. This is not one of those unjustified conflicts.
I’m sure the radical Islamists will be grateful to Christians who came to their defense while they slaughtered Jews. But not grateful enough to tolerate your infidel religion.
Reagan turned away?! Look up 'Operation Praying Mantis'...
Still is!
War sucks. But sometimes it's necessary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oyqo6rNbTI
The entire US political system is bought and paid for by a foreign land. That is the reality.
I appreciate your news alerts. Especially like the embedded videos.
I hope the U.S. was involved with at least signal intelligence and remote sensing. It's in everyone's best interest, except for the Mad Mullahs and their Revolutionary Guard, that targeting is precise.
I just don't want war. And no idea who to trust. But this scares me.
No one wants war. But if an enemy threatens to annihilate you and is close to having the means, a country has no choice but to defend itself. Israel is doing what the UN charter says they are allowed to do. No one should have any complaints. Obama, Biden and Trump gave diplomacy every chance over the past 10+ years
Well said.
Total B.S.
So enlighten everyone to your solution.
Is this a serious question or a snide remark? You mention "solution". First, what's the problem? Understanding the answers (note plural) must start with acknowledging that emotion drives out reason. Most commentary on the subject, both here and elsewhere, drips with emotion. Your comment doesn't start well.
You didn't answer my question.
If someone "threatens" to crush your skull it doesn't give you the right to crush theirs.
Sorry, too late. Iran has waged has been at war on the U.S. since 1979.
Look up Operation Ajax - UK-US operation in early 1950s to over throw Iran’s leader their people voted for - the beginning of our MIC and our destructive interventionist foreign policy that has harmed too many generations since. We started it in the 1950s!
Yes, I'm familiar with the story. My cousin is married to a Persian man whose Christian family fled Iran at the prospect of the takeover by a communist regime. Iran was much, much better off under the pro-west, pro-liberty Shah than it would have been as a Soviet puppet-state.
No doubt that Iran was better off under western civilization but that’s up to the Iranians to figure out. Plus, we have our own natural resources to exploit; we don’t need other countries resources.
America’s interventionist foreign policy has caused nothing but destructive wars around the world.
I'm an exploration geologist with 40 years of field experience and I can assure you that the U.S. does not have all the natural resources we need. Nowhere near enough to sustain our standard of living. We'd have to reduce the population by 90% to achieve that.
I'm sympathetic with your reluctance to engage in foreign entanglements. We've been stupid about this. The FUBAR over Ukraine is a great example of this. Like Churchill told us, "Better to jaw-jaw, than war-war." I think prosperous commerce between the nations is the best way forward and the path away from war.
Agreed- free trade, not fair trade - works best.
And since the '50s are not likely to return, the present conditions require attention. Sorry.
I had top security clearance and ran the mailroom for a large weapons manufacturer during the Iran hostage crisis in the early 1980s. We continued to sell weapons to Iran throughout the whole thing.
They were - and they weren’t - our enemy. It all depended on perspective, and who was pocketing the profits.
Thanks, but that doesn't speak very highly of your employer or of Carter. BTW, the Iran hostage crisis occurred in 1979 into early 1981.
The point was certainly that it didn’t speak highly of my employer (contracted to the U.S. government) or the Carter administration. I’m almost 70, it was 45 years ago, and past two A.M. when I responded: cut me some slack for not bothering to Google the exact date.
I'm almost 70, too, but okay.
Everyone has a right to defend themselves. Bullies shouldn't be appeased.
It only brings them back for more. much like a blackmailer.
It's a tragic necessity. Its a matter of imperialism; be Dhimmi or be dead. Israel tried to cede territory to stop the attacks from regional empire-builders, but that was always doomed to fail. Refusing the offering was the one honest thing the Persian and Arab imperialists did.
I'm praying Trump authorizes the U.S. military to assist Israel when Iran retaliates. I did not find Secretary of State Rubio's comment reassuring. He warned Iran not to retaliate against American forces or bases, distancing the States from Israel in this pre-emptive strike. Israel waited while Trump negotiated and strung things out, following Obama's policy of patient appeasement. Israel waited until Trump's deadline had past, giving time for negotiations to play out and showing respect. Israel is too tiny to survive a first strike nuclear attack, so had no other alternative.
You go first. Spill your blood for the Rothchilds.
Trump says he ‘always knew’ details of Israel’s attack on Iran
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/foreign-policy/3441219/trump-israel-attack-iran-always-knew-details/
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US Deploys Warships Near Israel
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/13/pentagon-destroyer-israel-iran-00405019
Got a Got a Twenty Dollar Bill that say The US helped.
Now all the Jew hating MAGA phonies like tucker carlson having a meltdown because Trump doing what he did during his first term and said he would do during his second term, support Israel, protect Jews, and prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon.
See
The online right’s Israel foes
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2025/06/the-online-rights-israel-foes.php
Scott Johnson
June 14 2025
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DrMaturin 3 hours ago
I wonder what part of “Death To America” and “America is the Great Satan” these people fail to understand.
FCinNHyet DrMaturin 2 hours ago
They are so solipsistic that they would only say such things as hyperbole so they assume that's also true of their enemies. (It's projection.) They are actually incapable of understanding that there are millions of people who truly do desire to die in jihad to promote Islam.
Iran is a greater danger to us that Russia or China because although they are not as militarily capable, they cannot be deterred by the concept of MAD. Neither Russia nor China wants to destroy themselves to destroy their adversary, but Iran would. They are like a rabid animal, with no sense of self-preservation. That's what makes them so dangerous.
The line is now clearly drawn. Let's see who supports Iran and who supports the Jews. The boots on the ground argument is a canard( weapons are not boots on the ground). In the meantime let's ask who Iran's allies are and who has been supplying o t about to supply Iran with technology or material that is designed to help Iran ftom A military standpoint. This would never happened if Iran dismantled its nuclear program and abandoned all of its nuclear pursuits and related activities. Or are those out there who see Iran as a force for peace and humanity and that its word is trustworthy.
It's humanity vs Zionists. Not about Iran vs Jews or MAGA or Trump. It's about billionaires and ancient banking families that subscribe to Zionist ideology.
Why does my sympathy tend to go in the direction of Iran now?
Why would you sympathize with someone whose ideology requires your death?
I see how Palestinian infrastructure is totally destroyed because Israel wants the land; how little children are shot between the eyes by snipers; how children are bullied by IDF soldiers; how children are stolen and dragged into vans never to be seen again; how captured Palestinians get broom sticks pushed up their anuses; how food destined for Palestinians are hijacked with dire results. I would feel the same about Israelis being treated that way by an enemy.
Jewish Zionists committed genocide in Gaza. It’s a sad but undeniable truth.
That is what it looks like yes.
Antisemitism?
Both Jews and Palestinians are Semites. I followed the events of 7 Oct in detail. Both sides participated to make it happen. The Jews with the aim of obtaining a good reason to annihilate the Palestinians. I detest Hamas (a creation of Netanyahu) but to destroy everything Palestinians had and kill civilians in their ten thousands, including children with sniper bullets between the eyes, is not on. Read the Balfour Declaration and see what it states. The Israelis are led by tyrants and taught from a young age - like the Palestinians - to hate and mistrust the other.
I think you should use your 'BS spotter' skills on yourself.
As a retired researcher I have a reasonable grasp of source verification, staying objective and verifying facts. Those skills revealed to me, early in 2020, that covid was created, that mRNA vaccines would be devastating, that masks and lockdowns don't work, etc. The same skills reveal the lies about CO2. But, thank you. I need to be reminded to remain careful and objective.
Propaganda
No, critical thinking, which is the opposite of propaganda.
1972 Munich Olympic athletes
1979 Tehran hostages
2001 World Trade Center
We’ve known for a long time that sooner or later Western Civilization would have to fight radical Islam.