Historically I liked both Ben and Candace, but now I like only one--and it ain't Candace. Her behavior is despicable. If you don't like working for someone, just quit and find something else to do. A five-year old would have better manners and common sense.
both have bad judgment when they openly spar back and forth.. That is just immature and classless. Be adults and professional. We don't want to hear it. Both of you.
Couldn't disagree more. The times are changing and younger Americans aren't buying the war-mongering rhetoric of a man who puts Ukraine and Israel ahead of his own country. Go Candace.
I'm not arguing that her views are wrong, although i disagree with them. Her behavior and comments, though, are beneath contempt. That's the issue I have with Candace.
Candace Owens chose to promote the pro muslim brotherhood/ pro genocidal psychopath narrative, in spite of leading conservative experts on the MB who understand that genocide of Israel /Jews/all non believers is their goal, and spoke out to correct her. she ignored/disrespected all of them. I lost all respect for her.
The Freedom Center doesn't sound very impartial. Check out Ian Carroll on TikTok or Twitter - younger people don't support Israel anything like the boomers.
Freedom Center is not impartial. And I don't GAS what commies think, just disgusted in Candace for presenting herself as on the side of freedom, then demonstrating that she sides w destruction of life, liberty & freedom.
Completely agree! Used to really like Candace. I watched her piece on BLM on the Daily Wire as well as Making of a Murderer. Both were good but she oddly placed herself into the latter which left me believing it was an opportunity to make it about herself.
I abhor how she personalized just Ben's commentary at the Daily Wire. No one would be surprised by his thoughts (he left Israel the day before the horrific attacks) so why was she? There are lots of other personalities at the Daily Wire but she didn't go after them.
Candace Owens chose to promote the pro muslim brotherhood/ pro genocidal psychopath narrative, in spite of leading conservative experts on the MB who understand that genocide of Israel /Jews/all non believers is their goal, and spoke out to correct her. she ignored/disrespected all of them. I lost all respect for her.
Ben is America second, Israel first. I have no time for him. He's a vaccine pushing, elitist, war-monger. The only way Candace should consider debating him is if his microphone is turned off until it is his turn to speak.
Her truth or his truth? Ben Shapiro not letting Candace get a word in is the only way he wins. As long as they both get an equal chance to speak, this is a good idea as more people will realize was an America-hating twerp he is.
Many Americans support Israel in its fight against Hamas. That does not make us less patriotic as Americans. I believe that was Tucker Carlson’s remark that Ben is America second. I found it unfair and antisemitic and lost my respect for Tucker.
Ben's been getting subtle digs in at Tucker in recent months. It's tit for tat. I side with Tucker.
The fight against Hamas only happens because the attack was allowed (perhaps encouraged) to happen. The Globalists need to deflect from a demented POTUS, millions of illegal migrants, and millions of vaccine injuries across the world.
October 7th was an inside job, Joe. They knew it was coming and they let it happen because they want war on as many fronts as possible.
Breaching the Gaza border fence is improbable enough. The fact that the IDF forces took 8 hours to respond tells you they wanted as high a death toll as possible. Think about it. It's a small country and some of their elite bases were within 15-20 miles of the area that was breached. It's inconceivable that that the elite IDF forces were not attacking the Hamas forces within minutes. They should have responded with their countless tanks, Humvees and Blackhawks (all paid for by American taxpayers) and blown them all to bits. But no, they let the slaughter go on for hours.
Moving the rave concert close to the border that just happened to be breached makes the inside job even more likely. They were trying to manipulate us by showing us photos of dead young people.
They want war, Joe. A global super holocaust to reduce the world's population is the Globalist end game and they are willing to sacrifice Israelis, and Ukrainians to get it. Wake up.
Even if this were so, Hamas could have prevented the response by not doing the attack in the first place.
All of these master conspiracy plans of "We'll allow them to attack and harm innocents so we have the justification to respond and destroy them utterly" would have fail if those goons didn't attack in the first place.
Hamas is a terrorist group. Their mission is to kill and maim. If your neighbor has a pit bull, you make sure you have a secure fence - you don't leave any weak spots. If you're having breakfast and that pit bull gets into your yard and is chasing your children you don't wait until you've eaten your eggs and coffee, you grab a weapon and you fight that dog immediately.
The elites want global war and the Israeli leaders want possession of Gaza. October 7th was allowed to happen just like 9/11 and Pearl Harbor.
Well, the neighbor can argue that it's my fault his pit bull that he trained to attack my children came into my yard and bit my kid. He can say it's my fault for not remembering to close the gate or patch the holes in the fence.
I'm still taking him before the HOA and calling the police.
And if you'd quit obsessing about murdering Jews, none of that would have happened -- if indeed it happen. Hamas and the Truth are not even passing acquaintances.
I'm up to here trying to have sympathy for people who want to murder me.
You should be more concerned about the plight of Christians during the rise of the Soviet Union, when many, many more millions of Christians were murdered than Jewish people were murdered in the Holocaust. And what of the fate of Christians now? Christians are members of the most persecuted religion in the world, and the media say little to nothing about it. They're murdered in Africa by Muslims, they're murdered in Aremenia (and Israel supports the Azerbaijan Muslims doing it), Christians were almost totally decimated in Iraq -- from 1.5 million to 250,000, with hundreds of churches destroyed -- because Saudi Arabian Muslims flew into the Twin Towers (go figure that one out), they're being replaced in their own homelands -- and almost nothing is said aside from a page 6 story here and there (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48146305). And any criticism of that last is met with cries of "racism" even though race isn't the issue; religion is.
Ben has indeed become unhinged and history will judge him harshly. It’s time for peace or at least an attempt at peace rather than wanton killing of innocents.
It’s his company he can do want he wants - totally agree.
And I can think what I want - at least so far. We all await Missouri V Biden injunction decision and then the actual case once it starts.
No Ben is not unhinged and history will remember him quite well. Now you? Hmm. The “wanton killing of innocents” is all Hamas, their game plan and their future game plan. Any peace that leaves them in power will surely be short lived, since they’ve never once kept to a ceasefire. NOT ONCE. The illusion of peace you seem to crave is one where Israel and Jews lay down and die and submit to the Oct 7 massacre “again and again,” (in the words of Hamas itself during interviews it gives from far off Doha 5 star hotels.)
As does Europe and the UN and everyone else..They don’t always know they’re doing it: a lot of them think they’re sending “aid” to UNRWA for poor “refugees” and poverty stricken people, but yes , sadly it ends up in Hamas’ hands. Also supporting Hamas outright are lovely establishments like Iran, Qatar, Turkey, probably Russia and China. This group probably has different reasons. What’s your point?
Are you allergic to getting to an actual POINT or are you young and denied a normal education so that you don’t know HOW to actually MAKE a coherent point. When you figure it out perhaps let us know, or not. You are tedious.
Did we commit genocide when we killed maybe a million German and Japanese civilians in the bombings and the firebombings and the nukings of German and Japanese cities during World War II.? Or was it rather our intention to destroy the German and Japanese will to persist in making war which motivated our actions?
And if our various bombings came from genocidal intent, why didn't we finish the job, wiping out as many Germans and Japanese as we possibly could after we had obliterated their war machines?
Hamas puts all of its military and intelligence bureaucracies smack dab in the middle of the civilian population. No historian who studies the sinking of the Lusitania in 1915 doubts that contraband munitions were being smuggled to the British on passenger liners, thereby making them legitimate targets of fire. Much as Israel warned Hamas that bombings were coming, the German Embassy put notices in the New York newspapers in the spring of 1915, warning people who wanted to make a transAtlantic voyage that the Germans were certain that passenger liners were being used for that purpose, and reminding those wanting to make such a trip that the better part of valor might be to postpone their plans until after the war.
Israel must eradicate Hamas if it is serious about preventing another October 7. Why do you blame Israel instead of Hamas?
I am not a Jew hater. I think Israel should kill members of Hamas. But they should not kill and wound 100,000 innocent women and children to do it. They should not displace a million more. That is ethnic cleansing and genocide. If you endorse it then you are no better than a Nazi; I don’t endorse Hamas or Israeli murder of innocents and that makes me not a Jew hater or Nazi (like you).
Todd, I will ask you the question I have asked others: how can Israel be expected to make "peace" with a group (Hamas) that is formally committed to its destruction and is guilty of the most despicable acts against its civilians in an unprovoked sneak attack? Any such "peace" agreement would not be worth the paper it is written on. It would be a mere prelude to the next despicable act of terror. The suffering of the civilians of Gaza pains me immensely, but I see no viable path to peace absent Hamas' immediate and complete surrender. Please join me in calling for them to do so.
You’ll have to figure out how to make peace with Hamas or whomever is your neighbor.
What about the Palestinian right of return? How do you think your folks would feel if they’d been kicked out of their houses? Plenty of grievances on all sides.
Commit to peace, the alternative is what you see right now. It’s never easy but it’s the thing to do.
Arab peace proposal sits awaiting Israel’s signature - go back to 1948 borders and you have recognition and normalization. That’s a start.
It’s not USA’s fight - maybe our leaders think so - as they are paid to think that way - but the US people don’t. Especially now after this recent and ongoing slaughter.
I wish you well and may God have mercy on your soul (and mine).
Todd, no one--but no one---can or should tolerate the presence of a neighbor ruled by a faction loudly dedicated to their destruction such as Hamas. Yes, there are indeed "plenty of grievances on all sides," but Hamas is an obstacle to even beginning to reconciling them. I urge you to join me in calling for their immediate and complete surrender. That is the only possible "start" to the peace process you envision.
And by the way: Israel's struggle against Iran's proxy Hamas is indeed the US's struggle. As I like to point out, when someone says "death to America" 10,000 times or more, believe them. After Hamas is removed from power, it will be the turn of the Iranian mullahs to go, hopefully before they get the nuclear weapons they have been building. Maybe then, and only then, might there be a glimmer of hope for peace in the mid-east.
Matthew 5:43-45: “43 You have heard that it was said, Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may be children of your Father in heaven. For he causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.”
That's for God to sort out. But from my humble human experience, anyone who perpetrates the murder of another (and in this case when all are home honoring their sabbath and therefore, completely unprepared and surprised) is horrendous.
"He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous” is the point, but everyone bogs down by taking the "love your enemies" bit literally.
You liars who want to blame it all on “Hamas” are officially a joke at this point. But keep going, at this point you’re only helping by showing that a bunch of one-more lying fools you are.
Hamas did not slaughter 14,000 little kids in their homes for no reason.
Hey, even if you aren't talking to me, you are an ignorant fuck... you have no idea how many children died, or anybody else for that matter. You only know what been propagandized to say. Why don't you just go and change your diaper, it stinks pretty bad right now.
Not having a peace agreement is indeed a dilemma but that doesn’t justify Israel killing tens of thousands of women and children, wounding over fifty thousand and displacing a million. Lack of peace treaty does not justify genocide. Take care, Pacificus. I do appreciate you are not heartless about their suffering.
Correct, he is an unhinged uniparty stooge and in the future when the USA is split into several poor countries Ben will be judged very harshly. Ben was wrong about the Covid vaccines and he's wrong about the global conflicts that he is supporting.
“But when you back off a war you once supported, it proves how easily manipulated you are.”
Who says it qualifies as a war and who say “we” once supported it?
Indeed as Netanyahu himself said “I know what America is. America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction. They won't get in our way.”
It’s not “anti Israel” to say that Israel should stop its genocide of Palestinian women and children. Israel is undermining itself by these actions, slowly draining away world wide support from any persons human instincts left. Anyone who favors Israel’s right to exist should be insisting that Israel stop.
As far as Hamas, until Israel goes to Qatar and takes out the Hamas leaders living at the Four Seasons, I refuse to believe that this is about Hamas at all. As Mearsheimer says, this is simply about Israel eradicating the Palestinians, that’s all.
Israel does not have to tolerate 1200 citizens being murdered, raped and kidnapped.
Hamas's strategy of "Let's murder a bunch of people, wait for the response, then cry like a little bitch screaming 'genocide'! to get a bunch of western morons to sympathize with us" is contemptible.
If you had intellectual integrity, you’d not be parroting terrorist lies.
Your lovely people, terrorists, have been kicked out, all 440,000 from Kuwait in 1991. No Jews, no News.
Tens of thousands of your lively people, terrorists, have been killed and hundreds of thousands kicked out of Lebanon in 1986. No Jews, no News.
Tens of thousands of your lively people, terrorists, have been killed and hundreds of thousands kicked out of Jordan 1970. No Jews, no News.
“ You evil fucking freaks going on about “Hamas” don’t have a leg to stand on.”
“ I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.” Margaret Thatcher
All right, you posted three nasty little comments to me, showing a Nazi-like ideology of embracing every anti-Jewish lie you can finder on the internet.
Justifying the genocide of Palestine is like trying to justify the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. US interests approve of eradicating the Palestinians just so the rest of the world understands who is in charge. Unfortunately for the US, they may soon discover that their reign of world hegemony is ending.
Israel has killed 33,000, wounded 73,000 and displaced over a million. If they were Jewish victims you would scream it it’s genocide. And so would I. But because they are not Jewish victims you call it collateral damage. It’s dishonest and hypocritical. Now fluxes your mind on this question; if it were Jews getting killed in those numbers, would you not call it genocide. I’ll answer for you; of course it’s genocide.
Actually I spoke out about those genocides also. You defend Israel’s genocide of women and children because of your hatred for Palestinians. I am not a Jew-hater and am against violence to them. But you are a hater and promote genocide. Your not a Freedom Lover; you’re a Genocide Lover.
You did? You provided ZERO, ZELCH, NADA proves for any of your false innuendos.
Provide links to your critic of REAL genocides, please.
“ You defend Israel’s genocide of women and children because of your hatred for Palestinians.”
Just another baseless false accusation by a troll. 🤡
You know about me just about as much as evidence you provided for your other baseless, false claims: ZERO, ZELCH, NADA. 🤡
Palestinian Arabs of Gaza are one of the most destitute people. Their problem is the same as the problem of Soviets under the Bolsheviks leftist regime, Chinese under Mao and other leftists, …, Nicaraguans under the leftist Ortega regime.
The problem of the Palestinian Arabs of Gaza is the leftist terrorist regime of Hamas.
Israel is as much to blame for the fake, dreamed up by you and other Jee-haters “genocide,” as USA is to blame for the “genocide” of Arabs while destroying ISIL, …, as allied troops are to blame for the “genocide” of Germans during the WWII while destroying leftist Nazis.
So, provide evidence for your baseless claims, troll, or cease and decease. 🤡🫶🏻🕊
Let’s assume that your supplied by terrorist numbers are correct. How many of those are Hamas combatants and how many civilians?
If you’d have attempted to do a little bit more than parrot terrorist Hamas propaganda, you’d think through a bit better.
Israel shows unprecedented restrain and presents incomparably to any other war low ratio of civilians to combatants killed.
Hiding behind civilians is still a war crime. Projecting Hamas’ crimes on Israel takes NO thought, which is expected of terrorist defenders. If this is genocide, it’s Hamas who commits it against Palestinians in Gaza
If you have a shred of integrity left, name Muslim countries which do NOT treat their ORDINARY Palestinians as the second class and offer as many rights and as high standard of living as Israel offers her ORDINARY Palestinian Arabs. If Israel exhibits genocide and apartheid towards ORDINARY Palestinians by offering the highest standard of living and most human rights then we need more of these “genocide” and “apartheid.”
The whole world knows it? Don’t be a clown. More than half of this country, the US of A knows precisely the opposite.
5.5M killed in Congo: 🥱
500K killed in Syria 🥱
500K killed in Sudan 🥱
400K killed in Yemen: 🥱
300K killed in Iraq: 🥱
250K killed in Afghanistan:🥱
30K killed in Gaza: GENOCIDE!!!
Do tell how much damn you give about civilian Palestinian Arab murdered in cold blood in Syria. You don’t even have a clue how many. 😢
No Jews, no news. You care about Gaza only because of your Jew-hate.
Employing Goebbels’ tactic of repeating lies with the hope that it will stick works with stupid. I always wondered, how inspiring it must feel to be a leader of stupid? 💪💪😁🫶🏻
Really good article. I especially liked your closing line, about how war isn't personal until it is. There's not much difference in that mentality and the soft-on-crime fools who want to eliminate/reduce/hamstring law enforcement.
Understand This is Candace Owens. There is the Good Side of Candace (say Blexis the transgenderism and young people) and there is the Downside of Candace, (she is one of those people who thrive on conflict). She wanted to leave The Daily Wire, ok fine it wasn't working for her, for whatever reason. She Could have gone quietly (she has left a number of places before), but being someone who Wants controversy, conflict, but no she had to go to war publicly, and make it All About Her.
Mar 28, 2024 #CandaceOwens #RubinReport #BenShapiro
Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” talks to Ben Shapiro about Candace Owens and Daily Wire parting ways, and debunks some of the rumors around her departure; why he reduced his Twitter usage; the confusion around free speech, particularly in business relationships; why platforms should be more open than publishers that have editorial positions; and much more.
I’m on the opposite side here. I don’t follow either Candace or Shapiro, and don’t know much about the spat between them other than Candace getting kicked off The Daily Wire. But I will say that when I hear/see interviews with Candace she comes across as intelligent and composed, her interview with Tucker was great and I gained a lot of respect for her. Shapiro on the other hand, though he’s definitely intelligent, seems like an obnoxious twerp. I just don’t get a good feeling from him, though I sometimes agree with his intelligent takes. Regarding Isreal/Gaza, I tend to be on Candace’s side. I’m not antisemitic nor any-Isreal, but I am anti Zionist and anti genocide. What Hamas did was atrocious, and they need to be dealt with and removed, but things have gone too far and there needs to be a cease fire in Gaza. The suffering has gone on long enough and too many innocents are dying. And now Iran is getting involved which is dangerous to everyone. I’m not exactly sure what should happen next, but the peace process must begin and that starts with stopping the bombs.
I agree. Our globalist elite ruling class has 3 major obsessions: Destroying Trump/MAGA internally, Putin/Russia externally and destroying meritocracy wherever it can be found since it has a “disparate impact” on blacks and is therefore “racist” and unacceptable and must be replaced with Equity aka Equal Outcomes. Plus they want Putin/Russia destroyed so they can steal Russia’s vast natural resources.
“Editor’s Note: America is at war. This is not a traditional war, fought on a battlefield against an external enemy. It is a civilizational conflict against an internal enemy: the group quota regime, a revolutionary threat that seeks to reorganize American society around the principle of outcome equality — what the regime’s partisans call “equity.”
“This cold civil war may go unnoticed by many day-to-day, but its stakes are often as high as life and death. Here, Roger B. Cohen, a celebrated oncologist and professor in the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania, explains how the group quota regime has taken hold of the American medical education system and asks urgent questions about the consequences for medicine, for the sick, and for the country.”
I believe that we’ve already passed the point of no return and our society is too far gone in too many ways to be repaired. Can’t take back a country that no longer exists as a country plus our whole world is in a tailspin. My hope is that AI will save our sinking ship. Elon says we’re heading for a “semi-utopia.” Good enough for me. I’ll take it. Many say AI is “scary” as if living under the rule of our criminally insane ruling class isn’t.
Reality itself is becoming fluid as AI is now capable of carrying on a conversation that is as convincing as talking to another person. This will erode the distinction between living/nonliving, human/nonhuman. And even greatly extend longevity with good health which will erode the reality that death is a certainty that will come for each one of us sooner or later. The best of times. The worst of times.
You perhaps missed the story where Israel was using AI to pick bombing targets. So you logically have to admit either that Israel is the good guy here or AI can be used for evil means.
Israel’s war on the Palestinians is demonic and will make Israel a global pariah state. It will also destroy any moral credibility and leadership ability America had left since America enabled and supported this. When I see video of all those building bombed in Gaza I wonder how many people were blown up, crushed in the collapse or, worst of all, simply buried alive in the rubble. This is evil.
3:57 “Egypt doesn't want people from Gaza being able to enter Egypt because they're not Egyptian, they're Palestinians and Gaza is their land so they can't leave by land either. So what does that mean for 2.2 million people not to be able to leave by land, by sea or by air? It means that they live in an open air prison. It’s not a metaphor. It’s not a simile. It’s not a symbol. It’s a literal description of the lives of the people of Gaza. At the same time you have aggressive, massive settlements being built more so than ever all throughout the West Bank in a way that completely prohibits any possibility of Palestinian statehood which means the Palestinians will live indefinitely under the occupying rule of a foreign country, an occupation that the entire world considers Illegal.”
“The Israeli-Gaza War Did Not Start on Oct 7.” (15 min)
Group A says that group B doesn't have a right to exist and elected Hamas to help further this goal. So Hamas does what its charter says it will do, attacks on 10/7, and does it in the most evil way possible. In what world, is Group B the bad guys, regardless of how they respond (needless to say, they are not responding with the same evil zeal of Hamas)?
Innocents being killed is horrific, but I fail to see how Israel could have done this differently. And if one considers that part of group A's plan was obviously the hope that world support for Israel would erode as they responded to the provocation it further exposes Group A's nefarious intentions. Their plan was to use the killing of their innocent people that they knew the response would produce to further their goal of the destruction of Group B. What redeeming qualities does such a group have? What more does one need to know?
John Mearsheimer talked about this with Lex Fridman. He said they had no good options put picked the worst one among them. They should have gone after Hamas with targeting of their leaders rather than war on the Palestinians. And why was the border with Gaza so unguarded on Oct 7? Where were the soldiers? They’d been redeployed to the West Bank to help settlers steal Palestinian land. You have no problem with that but I do.
“John Mearsheimer: Israel is punishing Palestinians.” (12 min)
Lex Fridman interviews John Mearsheimer. Nov 21, 2023
You fail to see how Israel could have not committed the genocide that they have? They could have done targeted killing with a policy of no more than 1 civilian collateral damage for every terrorist targeted as just one example. Instead they killed over 30,000 innocent women and children, wounded another 70,000 and displaced a million. That’s genocide by anyone’s definition.
You know I love you Libertarian, but again, I'm not understanding. Of course I don't want innocent people getting killed, but what would you have done if you were Israel?
And if you say I would have made sure our counter attack would have been more precise, I would say, that's really easy to say, but . . . .
And I love you because you are always a respectful thoughtful commenter, not sure if that's a word, lol.
Hey Bill, my limited understanding is that the IDF uses an AI system called Lavender to find, target, assess collateral damage, and launch their strikes. Apparently, it is coded to tolerate 30 civilians for a low level target and 100 civilians for any higher targets. So let’s say it wants to take out a group of 5 Hamas terrorists; it tolerates killing 150 innocent women and children in the strike. I think Lavender should be recoded to tolerate no more than 5 civilian collaterals for every 1 low terrorist target and no more than 10 for any high level terrorist target I also think Israel should immediately stop starving the civilians. Finally, 2 points; if someone was doing this to Jews I would protest also and when Hamas attacked I called my Jewish relatives and told them how horrific I thought it was. Take care, amigo. Much love.
I am not a Nazi; I am against the genocide that they committed and I am against the genocide that Israel is committing now. Both are wrong. You on the other call for Turing Gaza into a dirt parking lot and killing more women and children.
Sasha - You are very smart and dedicated to the truth. I’m not you but if I were in your position, I would stay far away from the Israel-Palestine debate until I gained a full understanding of what’s going on there. I like your articles about Trump but I’m not going near anything you put up regarding this subject. I was brought up in a staunch Zionist family and have looked very closely on both sides. I don’t trust Israel at all and am totally appalled by the genocide they are carrying out.
Genocide is killing innocent people in mass. Not unlike to what Israel, the US, UK and a great many governments worldwide have done over the last 3 years forcing or persuading millions of people to take the sometimes deadly mRNA clot causing injections. Or do you consider that just more conspiracy theory propaganda as well?
I’m pretty certain you will quickly bash anything I show you and negate it for being some conspiracy theory shit so I’m not going to make a lot of effort to win your agreement. I can see it’s pretty untouchable which is fine. It’s your body and it’s your mind and you can decide whatever you choose. If you were really keen to learn about the the tragedies that have been faced by countless folks worldwide there is plenty to uncover right here on Substack. . The same with the few studies and collections of data that are out there. But you’re convinced it’s invalid and professional - certainly not worth your time. I’ve run across a number of people like you. So at this point I say why bother. But you might prove me wrong (after all that’s your aim) by watching this documentary. https://open.substack.com/pub/stevekirsch/p/know-anyone-thinking-of-getting-another?r=59dck&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
If the tens of thousands of dead and wounded were Israelis, I would call it genocide. That they are not Israelis seems to make a huge difference in the definition for many commentators here.
I would point out that it was Ben who attacked Candace first. When he did so at a supposed private gathering, giving a speech and it got recorded.
Also it's true they can fire who they want to, but in that case they can't criticize NBC for the Ronna McDaniel situation. It's the same thing. This was a pointless black eye for Daily Wire and it makes me respect them less. If her firing wasn't over Israel then they should explain why she was fired.
I'm a little disappointed in both – then again, I can afford to be, as I don't really have a dog in the "fight" between Ben and Candace.
It's Ben's enterprise, he's free to hire and fire as he sees fit. She should have just walked away, if the differences were so profound – if her content is compelling on its merits, she should have no problem getting a following pretty quickly, but I agree it will not end well, for her.
I don't think this will be nearly as injurious to Ben in the short-term, though I do believe that "fighting" with a woman, especially publicly, is not a good move – there's no winning that argument if you are a man, even if you are right.
Ben's conviction will serve him well, and let him prevail over the longer term.
Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International accused both sides of war crimes.
Nothing has changed, except that repeated strikes on humanitarian aid workers, and deliberate blocking of food aid confirm that one side used starvation as a weapon of war.
It's hard to believe that facts so telling could be lost on someone of this blogger's intelligence, but such is the power of talking points reinforced relentlessly over generations.
I agree with Glenn. I think the Zionists hijacked Judaism and are giving it a very bad name. This will increase antisemitism globally although probably not so much here.
“Opposing Israel’s actions in Gaza does *not* make you pro-terrorist.” (1 min)
“Apparently there was a stand down order for 8 hours, allowing the Israelis to be massacred”
Kim Iversen, Glenn Greenwald, John Mearsheimer and others say Netanyahu has never wanted a two state solution. That’s also what this Jewish professor of economics in London says. Why was Israel’s border with Gaza so defenseless on Oct 7 when Hamas launched their deadly attack? Because the troops that were supposed to be guarding the border were redeployed to the West Bank to help Israeli settlers steal land from the Palestinians.
“How could the catastrophe on 7 October, which claimed the lives of at least 1,400 Israelis and has left 220 as hostages of Hamas, have happened? How could Israel lose control, over the course of a few hours, of an entire swath of its sovereign territory, including twenty-two kibbutzim and other villages? Beyond the obvious intelligence failure, one reason is that a good portion of the troops in the enlarged division that was meant to be guarding the Gaza border had been redeployed to keep order and protect an ever-expanding archipelago of tiny, often unauthorized West Bank settlements and roads leading to them. The sole purpose of these outposts was to establish a de facto Jewish presence in the West Bank and hence restrict the actions available to future Israeli governments. Objections and warnings by the defence establishment that the military and security services were overstretched, that the army no longer had the requisite forces or the time to train soldiers properly, were dismissed as the defeatism of an old and tired secular elite, by a growing chorus of hyper-patriotic, right-wing zealots, people often with little or no practical military experience.”
“A Generation of Misguided Policy in Israel.”
For more than a generation, defense policy and much else has been increasingly determined by the dictates of Israel’s religious settler lobby and its Messianic visions.
Somewhat. But it is still restricted and applies only to pistols. What they needed on Oct. 7 was rifles. I think the absurd ammo limit is still in effect.
I love Ben Shapiro, too. His quick wit and awesome takedowns of leftists crazies is a thing of beauty.
However, we all know MSM narratives cannot be trusted, especially the ones everyone agrees to. Oct 7 is one of those narratives where there are too many holes to ignore and buying the narrative hook line and sinker is something Ben has done. It is always the usual suspects named as the terrorists and who was behind them. Is it totally inconceivable that there may be rogue forces from Israel behind the Oct 7 attack? Did the IDF/mossad let it happen? Did the Israeli response kill many on both sides and then cover it up? Was any of the military hardware tossed indiscriminately around in Ukraine or Afghanistan used? Was it the CIA? If you can’t ask questions then it is propaganda not truth. Hiding behind accusations of antisemitism to shut down questions doesn’t work for me.
Historically I liked both Ben and Candace, but now I like only one--and it ain't Candace. Her behavior is despicable. If you don't like working for someone, just quit and find something else to do. A five-year old would have better manners and common sense.
Candace has loads of self-confidence but very little wisdom sometimes. Ben has both abundant self-confidence and often considerable wisdom.
both have bad judgment when they openly spar back and forth.. That is just immature and classless. Be adults and professional. We don't want to hear it. Both of you.
Except when it came to the C vaccine. He was wrong & finally saw the light.
Couldn't disagree more. The times are changing and younger Americans aren't buying the war-mongering rhetoric of a man who puts Ukraine and Israel ahead of his own country. Go Candace.
I'm not arguing that her views are wrong, although i disagree with them. Her behavior and comments, though, are beneath contempt. That's the issue I have with Candace.
Shapiro has been a condescending bully for years. I give her credit for not cowering from him.
Well, we disagree completely. Not the first time for you or me, I'd wager.
Respectful disagreement, love it, kudos to David and Duly.
You forgot to mention the war mongering actions of HAMAS.
That the U.S./ UK/ Israel fund
you just cited 3 democracies .. so you're on the side of:
N. Korea + Iran + Putin, huh?
Nice way to not have a conversation……
Candace Owens chose to promote the pro muslim brotherhood/ pro genocidal psychopath narrative, in spite of leading conservative experts on the MB who understand that genocide of Israel /Jews/all non believers is their goal, and spoke out to correct her. she ignored/disrespected all of them. I lost all respect for her.
Here's Robert Spencer calling her out several times: https://rumble.com/v4itefo-robert-spencer-calls-out-candace-owens..html
; https://rumble.com/v3xogz4-candace-israel-apartheid-and-genocide..html
also; https://rumble.com/v3xogz4-candace-israel-apartheid-and-genocide..html
David Horowitz's Freedom Center demonstrated in this article how dishonest/ disreputable Candace is & gave hoe a heave as well ~
https://www.frontpagemag.com/goodbye-candace/
Good riddance to her.
The Freedom Center doesn't sound very impartial. Check out Ian Carroll on TikTok or Twitter - younger people don't support Israel anything like the boomers.
Freedom Center is not impartial. And I don't GAS what commies think, just disgusted in Candace for presenting herself as on the side of freedom, then demonstrating that she sides w destruction of life, liberty & freedom.
Completely agree! Used to really like Candace. I watched her piece on BLM on the Daily Wire as well as Making of a Murderer. Both were good but she oddly placed herself into the latter which left me believing it was an opportunity to make it about herself.
I abhor how she personalized just Ben's commentary at the Daily Wire. No one would be surprised by his thoughts (he left Israel the day before the horrific attacks) so why was she? There are lots of other personalities at the Daily Wire but she didn't go after them.
100% !!
Candace Owens chose to promote the pro muslim brotherhood/ pro genocidal psychopath narrative, in spite of leading conservative experts on the MB who understand that genocide of Israel /Jews/all non believers is their goal, and spoke out to correct her. she ignored/disrespected all of them. I lost all respect for her.
Here's Robert Spencer calling her out several times: https://rumble.com/v4itefo-robert-spencer-calls-out-candace-owens..html
; https://rumble.com/v3xogz4-candace-israel-apartheid-and-genocide..html
also; https://rumble.com/v3xogz4-candace-israel-apartheid-and-genocide..html
David Horowitz's Freedom Center demonstrated in this article how dishonest/ disreputable Candace is & gave hoe a heave as well ~
https://www.frontpagemag.com/goodbye-candace/
Good riddance to her.
I'm waiting to hear the word racist.
Thank you Sasha for this article on Ben v Candace.
After her hateful (or ignorant) remonstrances against Israel ...
I crossed her off my Christmas Card list.
(more seriously, I simply crossed her ... OFF)
Ben is America second, Israel first. I have no time for him. He's a vaccine pushing, elitist, war-monger. The only way Candace should consider debating him is if his microphone is turned off until it is his turn to speak.
"Ben is America second, Israel first."
Cite Sources Please.
It's obviously his opinion and that is allowed with no further comment even if commanded by others.
"Ben is America second, Israel first."
STILL Waiting for Sources. One would be good.
that would be the ONLY way Candace would win.
Otherwise, Ben would overtalk for her the entire debate.
well the TRUTH is that powerful, isn't it?
Her truth or his truth? Ben Shapiro not letting Candace get a word in is the only way he wins. As long as they both get an equal chance to speak, this is a good idea as more people will realize was an America-hating twerp he is.
MILLIONS of us MAGA and Trump supporters disagree with you ...
Debates are timed and I have no concern that Candace wouldn't do exactly the same. She's no wallflower.
Many Americans support Israel in its fight against Hamas. That does not make us less patriotic as Americans. I believe that was Tucker Carlson’s remark that Ben is America second. I found it unfair and antisemitic and lost my respect for Tucker.
Ben's been getting subtle digs in at Tucker in recent months. It's tit for tat. I side with Tucker.
The fight against Hamas only happens because the attack was allowed (perhaps encouraged) to happen. The Globalists need to deflect from a demented POTUS, millions of illegal migrants, and millions of vaccine injuries across the world.
(Oct 7 was) ..... "Encouraged to happen" by Israel????
Spoken like a true, LEFTY WOKIE HAMAS-NAZI TERROR-LOVER.
Find another website to play at ... NYTimes... WAPO ... HuffoPo... Slate ...
They're all LIARS so you'll fit right in.
There is a difference between subtle digs and calling someone a traitor
Unfortunately, there's a lot of traitors out there.
I lost my respect for Tucker when he took Putin's side.
he did? I doubt that.
And that too, of course
I use to follow Candace before she joined the daily wire.
I can no longer follow her.
I’m a Roman Catholic and the murder of more than 6 million Jews during the Holocaust
has angered me my whole life.
The slaughter of 1500 Jews in Israel in October of 2023 must not be tolerated and all those involved must be brought to Justice.
If Candace can not understand Ben Shapiro’s anger over this slaughter she needs
to go to a concentration camp in Germany and smell the odor of death that still exists.
“Never Again” is not a phrase to be used if force is not applied to stop another Holocaust.
God Bless Israel and the Jewish people around the world.
October 7th was an inside job, Joe. They knew it was coming and they let it happen because they want war on as many fronts as possible.
Breaching the Gaza border fence is improbable enough. The fact that the IDF forces took 8 hours to respond tells you they wanted as high a death toll as possible. Think about it. It's a small country and some of their elite bases were within 15-20 miles of the area that was breached. It's inconceivable that that the elite IDF forces were not attacking the Hamas forces within minutes. They should have responded with their countless tanks, Humvees and Blackhawks (all paid for by American taxpayers) and blown them all to bits. But no, they let the slaughter go on for hours.
Moving the rave concert close to the border that just happened to be breached makes the inside job even more likely. They were trying to manipulate us by showing us photos of dead young people.
They want war, Joe. A global super holocaust to reduce the world's population is the Globalist end game and they are willing to sacrifice Israelis, and Ukrainians to get it. Wake up.
Even if this were so, Hamas could have prevented the response by not doing the attack in the first place.
All of these master conspiracy plans of "We'll allow them to attack and harm innocents so we have the justification to respond and destroy them utterly" would have fail if those goons didn't attack in the first place.
Hamas is a terrorist group. Their mission is to kill and maim. If your neighbor has a pit bull, you make sure you have a secure fence - you don't leave any weak spots. If you're having breakfast and that pit bull gets into your yard and is chasing your children you don't wait until you've eaten your eggs and coffee, you grab a weapon and you fight that dog immediately.
The elites want global war and the Israeli leaders want possession of Gaza. October 7th was allowed to happen just like 9/11 and Pearl Harbor.
Then let's get rid of the pit bull. Seems simple enough.
You can try but your neighbor may have something to say about it.
Well, the neighbor can argue that it's my fault his pit bull that he trained to attack my children came into my yard and bit my kid. He can say it's my fault for not remembering to close the gate or patch the holes in the fence.
I'm still taking him before the HOA and calling the police.
The pitbull is “Israel”.
Do you need to see another 14,000 murdered children to see that?
Admit it, you’re just a lying shill for Nazi child-killers.
And if you'd quit obsessing about murdering Jews, none of that would have happened -- if indeed it happen. Hamas and the Truth are not even passing acquaintances.
I'm up to here trying to have sympathy for people who want to murder me.
Hamas is financed by Israel.
Look it up. It’s not even a secret.
Videos of Netanyahu talking publicly about how they do it and why.
Get out of your concrete grave of a basement! You need to see the light of day!
that's ridiculous, Hamas is not financed by Israel...good heavens stop with the propaganda theories.
You should be more concerned about the plight of Christians during the rise of the Soviet Union, when many, many more millions of Christians were murdered than Jewish people were murdered in the Holocaust. And what of the fate of Christians now? Christians are members of the most persecuted religion in the world, and the media say little to nothing about it. They're murdered in Africa by Muslims, they're murdered in Aremenia (and Israel supports the Azerbaijan Muslims doing it), Christians were almost totally decimated in Iraq -- from 1.5 million to 250,000, with hundreds of churches destroyed -- because Saudi Arabian Muslims flew into the Twin Towers (go figure that one out), they're being replaced in their own homelands -- and almost nothing is said aside from a page 6 story here and there (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48146305). And any criticism of that last is met with cries of "racism" even though race isn't the issue; religion is.
Ben has indeed become unhinged and history will judge him harshly. It’s time for peace or at least an attempt at peace rather than wanton killing of innocents.
It’s his company he can do want he wants - totally agree.
And I can think what I want - at least so far. We all await Missouri V Biden injunction decision and then the actual case once it starts.
No Ben is not unhinged and history will remember him quite well. Now you? Hmm. The “wanton killing of innocents” is all Hamas, their game plan and their future game plan. Any peace that leaves them in power will surely be short lived, since they’ve never once kept to a ceasefire. NOT ONCE. The illusion of peace you seem to crave is one where Israel and Jews lay down and die and submit to the Oct 7 massacre “again and again,” (in the words of Hamas itself during interviews it gives from far off Doha 5 star hotels.)
The UK/ US/ Israel government fund Hamas.
As does Europe and the UN and everyone else..They don’t always know they’re doing it: a lot of them think they’re sending “aid” to UNRWA for poor “refugees” and poverty stricken people, but yes , sadly it ends up in Hamas’ hands. Also supporting Hamas outright are lovely establishments like Iran, Qatar, Turkey, probably Russia and China. This group probably has different reasons. What’s your point?
That “ Hamas” is a distraction from the actual perpetrators
Are you allergic to getting to an actual POINT or are you young and denied a normal education so that you don’t know HOW to actually MAKE a coherent point. When you figure it out perhaps let us know, or not. You are tedious.
Calling names and not understanding , are your problem, not mine.
you just cited 3 democracies .. so you're on the side of:
N. Korea + Iran + Putin, huh?
STFU about your boogeyman “Hamas”. Hamas didn’t slaughter over 14,000 little kids for NO REASON.
YOU INHUMAN MONSTERS DID.
Nobody is for your “i got diarrhea, it’s Hamas’ fault” any more.
You’re a fucking joke.
Every single drop of blood spilled is the fault of the AGGRESSOR who started the war!
Hamas evil monsters.
I hope Israel turns Gaza into a dirt parking lot.
You wrote “I hope Israel turns Gaza into a dirt parking lot”; that’s evidence you want genocide. That makes you a Nazi. Own it.
You're a N*zi.
put down your crayons
i hear your mommy screaming at your to get off her computer
It's good to know that moral idiocy remains a constant in the population.
You’re a Nazi for endorsing Israel’s genocide of tens of thousands of innocent women and children. See how that works.
Did we commit genocide when we killed maybe a million German and Japanese civilians in the bombings and the firebombings and the nukings of German and Japanese cities during World War II.? Or was it rather our intention to destroy the German and Japanese will to persist in making war which motivated our actions?
And if our various bombings came from genocidal intent, why didn't we finish the job, wiping out as many Germans and Japanese as we possibly could after we had obliterated their war machines?
Hamas puts all of its military and intelligence bureaucracies smack dab in the middle of the civilian population. No historian who studies the sinking of the Lusitania in 1915 doubts that contraband munitions were being smuggled to the British on passenger liners, thereby making them legitimate targets of fire. Much as Israel warned Hamas that bombings were coming, the German Embassy put notices in the New York newspapers in the spring of 1915, warning people who wanted to make a transAtlantic voyage that the Germans were certain that passenger liners were being used for that purpose, and reminding those wanting to make such a trip that the better part of valor might be to postpone their plans until after the war.
Israel must eradicate Hamas if it is serious about preventing another October 7. Why do you blame Israel instead of Hamas?
Oh, I know. You're a Jew hater.
See how that works?
I am not a Jew hater. I think Israel should kill members of Hamas. But they should not kill and wound 100,000 innocent women and children to do it. They should not displace a million more. That is ethnic cleansing and genocide. If you endorse it then you are no better than a Nazi; I don’t endorse Hamas or Israeli murder of innocents and that makes me not a Jew hater or Nazi (like you).
Todd, I will ask you the question I have asked others: how can Israel be expected to make "peace" with a group (Hamas) that is formally committed to its destruction and is guilty of the most despicable acts against its civilians in an unprovoked sneak attack? Any such "peace" agreement would not be worth the paper it is written on. It would be a mere prelude to the next despicable act of terror. The suffering of the civilians of Gaza pains me immensely, but I see no viable path to peace absent Hamas' immediate and complete surrender. Please join me in calling for them to do so.
You’ll have to figure out how to make peace with Hamas or whomever is your neighbor.
What about the Palestinian right of return? How do you think your folks would feel if they’d been kicked out of their houses? Plenty of grievances on all sides.
Commit to peace, the alternative is what you see right now. It’s never easy but it’s the thing to do.
Arab peace proposal sits awaiting Israel’s signature - go back to 1948 borders and you have recognition and normalization. That’s a start.
It’s not USA’s fight - maybe our leaders think so - as they are paid to think that way - but the US people don’t. Especially now after this recent and ongoing slaughter.
I wish you well and may God have mercy on your soul (and mine).
Let’s talk about the right of return. Return where exactly? Where was born Arafat? What about other 1/3+ of those who live in Gaza or their ancestors?
Listen, perhaps read, carefully:
https://www.memri.org/tv/hamas-minister-interior-and-national-security-fathi-hammad-slams-egypt-over-fuel-shortage-gaza
Todd, you know so little of ... history ...
After the 1948 war for independence ... tens of thousands of JEWS were evicted from their HOME countries ...
Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Morocco, and more.
They're not crying for a "right to return."
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Every nation of planet earth has had a history of conquest and displacement of "natives."
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Remember not to skip elementary school next time, Todd.
Todd, no one--but no one---can or should tolerate the presence of a neighbor ruled by a faction loudly dedicated to their destruction such as Hamas. Yes, there are indeed "plenty of grievances on all sides," but Hamas is an obstacle to even beginning to reconciling them. I urge you to join me in calling for their immediate and complete surrender. That is the only possible "start" to the peace process you envision.
And by the way: Israel's struggle against Iran's proxy Hamas is indeed the US's struggle. As I like to point out, when someone says "death to America" 10,000 times or more, believe them. After Hamas is removed from power, it will be the turn of the Iranian mullahs to go, hopefully before they get the nuclear weapons they have been building. Maybe then, and only then, might there be a glimmer of hope for peace in the mid-east.
Matthew 5:43-45: “43 You have heard that it was said, Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may be children of your Father in heaven. For he causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.”
New Testament stuff but apropos here
Agreed, we should "love our enemies and pray for those who persecute" us. But that doesn't mean we should allow them to persecute us. Big difference!
How about Hamas show love of neighbor ..... first?
I'm not sure "love thy neighbor" is in their book.
Are they the righteous or the unrighteous?
That's for God to sort out. But from my humble human experience, anyone who perpetrates the murder of another (and in this case when all are home honoring their sabbath and therefore, completely unprepared and surprised) is horrendous.
"He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous” is the point, but everyone bogs down by taking the "love your enemies" bit literally.
P.S./Edit
For that reason it is quite apropos.
You liars who want to blame it all on “Hamas” are officially a joke at this point. But keep going, at this point you’re only helping by showing that a bunch of one-more lying fools you are.
Hamas did not slaughter 14,000 little kids in their homes for no reason.
Your people did.
Fuck you you evil piece of shit.
Hamas WOULD have killed every Jew if it had the power.
That ... is ... the ... point, moron.
So fuck YOU, you evil piece of shit.
Ta dah!
He's N*zi scum.
Hey, even if you aren't talking to me, you are an ignorant fuck... you have no idea how many children died, or anybody else for that matter. You only know what been propagandized to say. Why don't you just go and change your diaper, it stinks pretty bad right now.
You talking to me, Phillip?
Not having a peace agreement is indeed a dilemma but that doesn’t justify Israel killing tens of thousands of women and children, wounding over fifty thousand and displacing a million. Lack of peace treaty does not justify genocide. Take care, Pacificus. I do appreciate you are not heartless about their suffering.
If Hamas surrenders, there's peace tomorrow.
If someone has a knife at your throat or your wife or girlfriend ...
or your son ...or your daughter ...
KILL the MFer!
Correct, he is an unhinged uniparty stooge and in the future when the USA is split into several poor countries Ben will be judged very harshly. Ben was wrong about the Covid vaccines and he's wrong about the global conflicts that he is supporting.
Shapiro is Zionist first and American second. Not at all a unique position.
“But when you back off a war you once supported, it proves how easily manipulated you are.”
Who says it qualifies as a war and who say “we” once supported it?
Indeed as Netanyahu himself said “I know what America is. America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction. They won't get in our way.”
“Who says it qualifies as a war”?
Good question! Define “war”
So many in America have to toe the line.
It’s not “anti Israel” to say that Israel should stop its genocide of Palestinian women and children. Israel is undermining itself by these actions, slowly draining away world wide support from any persons human instincts left. Anyone who favors Israel’s right to exist should be insisting that Israel stop.
As far as Hamas, until Israel goes to Qatar and takes out the Hamas leaders living at the Four Seasons, I refuse to believe that this is about Hamas at all. As Mearsheimer says, this is simply about Israel eradicating the Palestinians, that’s all.
Israel does not have to tolerate 1200 citizens being murdered, raped and kidnapped.
Hamas's strategy of "Let's murder a bunch of people, wait for the response, then cry like a little bitch screaming 'genocide'! to get a bunch of western morons to sympathize with us" is contemptible.
Your lovely people slaughtered 14,000 non-“Hamas” innocent in the most grotesque and violent ways imaginable.
You evil fucking freaks going on about “Hamas” don’t have a leg to stand on. But keep it up, it’s all blowing up in your faces AS IT SHOULD.
People are FINALLY seeing the truth about you racist, fascist, Nazi inhuman scum are all about.
Finally!
If you had intellectual integrity, you’d not be parroting terrorist lies.
Your lovely people, terrorists, have been kicked out, all 440,000 from Kuwait in 1991. No Jews, no News.
Tens of thousands of your lively people, terrorists, have been killed and hundreds of thousands kicked out of Lebanon in 1986. No Jews, no News.
Tens of thousands of your lively people, terrorists, have been killed and hundreds of thousands kicked out of Jordan 1970. No Jews, no News.
“ You evil fucking freaks going on about “Hamas” don’t have a leg to stand on.”
“ I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.” Margaret Thatcher
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/166815-i-always-cheer-up-immensely-if-an-attack-is-particularly
You have not had any quality arguments except for the terrorist drivel to begin with
All right, you posted three nasty little comments to me, showing a Nazi-like ideology of embracing every anti-Jewish lie you can finder on the internet.
So you're blocked.
Justifying the genocide of Palestine is like trying to justify the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. US interests approve of eradicating the Palestinians just so the rest of the world understands who is in charge. Unfortunately for the US, they may soon discover that their reign of world hegemony is ending.
Define “genocide” Then provide evidence, which is NOT terrorist propaganda to support your claim.
So many people operate with words meaning of which they do not understand 😢🤷♂️
Bombing innocent civilians, woman and children.
Palestinians have been tools for Globalist since the Rothschild inception of Israel.
Signed
A Jew
If you had any intellectual integrity, you would not be spewing terrorist propaganda.
Every human life is precious. In times of war, unfortunately, innocent lives lost.
Israel’s kills incomparably fewer civilian lives than the acceptable war averages.
“Stupid is what Jjule comments on substack” Forrest Gump’s wise mama
There's always a Capo around.
Israel has killed 33,000, wounded 73,000 and displaced over a million. If they were Jewish victims you would scream it it’s genocide. And so would I. But because they are not Jewish victims you call it collateral damage. It’s dishonest and hypocritical. Now fluxes your mind on this question; if it were Jews getting killed in those numbers, would you not call it genocide. I’ll answer for you; of course it’s genocide.
5.5M killed in Congo: 🥱
500K killed in Syria 🥱
500K killed in Sudan 🥱
400K killed in Yemen: 🥱
300K killed in Iraq: 🥱
250K killed in Afghanistan:🥱
30K killed in Gaza: GENOCIDE!!!
No Jews, no news. You care about Gaza only because of your Jew-hate.
Actually I spoke out about those genocides also. You defend Israel’s genocide of women and children because of your hatred for Palestinians. I am not a Jew-hater and am against violence to them. But you are a hater and promote genocide. Your not a Freedom Lover; you’re a Genocide Lover.
You did? You provided ZERO, ZELCH, NADA proves for any of your false innuendos.
Provide links to your critic of REAL genocides, please.
“ You defend Israel’s genocide of women and children because of your hatred for Palestinians.”
Just another baseless false accusation by a troll. 🤡
You know about me just about as much as evidence you provided for your other baseless, false claims: ZERO, ZELCH, NADA. 🤡
Palestinian Arabs of Gaza are one of the most destitute people. Their problem is the same as the problem of Soviets under the Bolsheviks leftist regime, Chinese under Mao and other leftists, …, Nicaraguans under the leftist Ortega regime.
The problem of the Palestinian Arabs of Gaza is the leftist terrorist regime of Hamas.
Israel is as much to blame for the fake, dreamed up by you and other Jee-haters “genocide,” as USA is to blame for the “genocide” of Arabs while destroying ISIL, …, as allied troops are to blame for the “genocide” of Germans during the WWII while destroying leftist Nazis.
So, provide evidence for your baseless claims, troll, or cease and decease. 🤡🫶🏻🕊
Let’s assume that your supplied by terrorist numbers are correct. How many of those are Hamas combatants and how many civilians?
If you’d have attempted to do a little bit more than parrot terrorist Hamas propaganda, you’d think through a bit better.
Israel shows unprecedented restrain and presents incomparably to any other war low ratio of civilians to combatants killed.
Hiding behind civilians is still a war crime. Projecting Hamas’ crimes on Israel takes NO thought, which is expected of terrorist defenders. If this is genocide, it’s Hamas who commits it against Palestinians in Gaza
If you have a shred of integrity left, name Muslim countries which do NOT treat their ORDINARY Palestinians as the second class and offer as many rights and as high standard of living as Israel offers her ORDINARY Palestinian Arabs. If Israel exhibits genocide and apartheid towards ORDINARY Palestinians by offering the highest standard of living and most human rights then we need more of these “genocide” and “apartheid.”
Israel is committing ethnic cleansing and genocide and the entire world knows it. No need for personal attacks.
No personal attack, just statements of facts.))
The whole world knows it? Don’t be a clown. More than half of this country, the US of A knows precisely the opposite.
5.5M killed in Congo: 🥱
500K killed in Syria 🥱
500K killed in Sudan 🥱
400K killed in Yemen: 🥱
300K killed in Iraq: 🥱
250K killed in Afghanistan:🥱
30K killed in Gaza: GENOCIDE!!!
Do tell how much damn you give about civilian Palestinian Arab murdered in cold blood in Syria. You don’t even have a clue how many. 😢
No Jews, no news. You care about Gaza only because of your Jew-hate.
Employing Goebbels’ tactic of repeating lies with the hope that it will stick works with stupid. I always wondered, how inspiring it must feel to be a leader of stupid? 💪💪😁🫶🏻
Define “genocide” Then provide evidence, which is NOT terrorist propaganda to support your claim.
So many people operate with words meaning of which they do not understand 😢🤷♂️
Really good article. I especially liked your closing line, about how war isn't personal until it is. There's not much difference in that mentality and the soft-on-crime fools who want to eliminate/reduce/hamstring law enforcement.
It’s not war; it’s genocide. I was in the military; there’s a big difference.
Understand This is Candace Owens. There is the Good Side of Candace (say Blexis the transgenderism and young people) and there is the Downside of Candace, (she is one of those people who thrive on conflict). She wanted to leave The Daily Wire, ok fine it wasn't working for her, for whatever reason. She Could have gone quietly (she has left a number of places before), but being someone who Wants controversy, conflict, but no she had to go to war publicly, and make it All About Her.
My Final Word on Candace Owens Leaving Daily Wire | Ben Shapiro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiKQii4lQW4&t=7s
Mar 28, 2024 #CandaceOwens #RubinReport #BenShapiro
Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” talks to Ben Shapiro about Candace Owens and Daily Wire parting ways, and debunks some of the rumors around her departure; why he reduced his Twitter usage; the confusion around free speech, particularly in business relationships; why platforms should be more open than publishers that have editorial positions; and much more.
I’m on the opposite side here. I don’t follow either Candace or Shapiro, and don’t know much about the spat between them other than Candace getting kicked off The Daily Wire. But I will say that when I hear/see interviews with Candace she comes across as intelligent and composed, her interview with Tucker was great and I gained a lot of respect for her. Shapiro on the other hand, though he’s definitely intelligent, seems like an obnoxious twerp. I just don’t get a good feeling from him, though I sometimes agree with his intelligent takes. Regarding Isreal/Gaza, I tend to be on Candace’s side. I’m not antisemitic nor any-Isreal, but I am anti Zionist and anti genocide. What Hamas did was atrocious, and they need to be dealt with and removed, but things have gone too far and there needs to be a cease fire in Gaza. The suffering has gone on long enough and too many innocents are dying. And now Iran is getting involved which is dangerous to everyone. I’m not exactly sure what should happen next, but the peace process must begin and that starts with stopping the bombs.
“and that starts with stopping the bombs.“
Most of Gaza has already been destroyed so the bombing will soon stop since there’ll be nothing left to bomb.
By design, than The U.S./ UK/ Israel can put in the Ben Canal and steal the resources.
Wars are for the rich men.
Any excuse will do.
I agree. Our globalist elite ruling class has 3 major obsessions: Destroying Trump/MAGA internally, Putin/Russia externally and destroying meritocracy wherever it can be found since it has a “disparate impact” on blacks and is therefore “racist” and unacceptable and must be replaced with Equity aka Equal Outcomes. Plus they want Putin/Russia destroyed so they can steal Russia’s vast natural resources.
“Editor’s Note: America is at war. This is not a traditional war, fought on a battlefield against an external enemy. It is a civilizational conflict against an internal enemy: the group quota regime, a revolutionary threat that seeks to reorganize American society around the principle of outcome equality — what the regime’s partisans call “equity.”
“This cold civil war may go unnoticed by many day-to-day, but its stakes are often as high as life and death. Here, Roger B. Cohen, a celebrated oncologist and professor in the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania, explains how the group quota regime has taken hold of the American medical education system and asks urgent questions about the consequences for medicine, for the sick, and for the country.”
“The End of Merit in Med Schools Will Be Deadly.”
Real Clear Politics. Roger Cohen. Apr 2, 2024
https://tomklingenstein.com/the-end-of-merit-in-med-schools-will-be-deadly/
Law schools, all schools.
We are under a Marxist dictatorship.
I believe that we’ve already passed the point of no return and our society is too far gone in too many ways to be repaired. Can’t take back a country that no longer exists as a country plus our whole world is in a tailspin. My hope is that AI will save our sinking ship. Elon says we’re heading for a “semi-utopia.” Good enough for me. I’ll take it. Many say AI is “scary” as if living under the rule of our criminally insane ruling class isn’t.
Reality itself is becoming fluid as AI is now capable of carrying on a conversation that is as convincing as talking to another person. This will erode the distinction between living/nonliving, human/nonhuman. And even greatly extend longevity with good health which will erode the reality that death is a certainty that will come for each one of us sooner or later. The best of times. The worst of times.
On Transience (3 min)
https://youtu.be/QJHXKfmbNsE
“Elon Musk on AI’s Most Likely Outcome.” (9 min)
Peter Diamandis. Mar 31, 2024
https://youtu.be/rEY0FsnmS00?si=iUc8umjvsHsa6Xch
You perhaps missed the story where Israel was using AI to pick bombing targets. So you logically have to admit either that Israel is the good guy here or AI can be used for evil means.
Israel’s war on the Palestinians is demonic and will make Israel a global pariah state. It will also destroy any moral credibility and leadership ability America had left since America enabled and supported this. When I see video of all those building bombed in Gaza I wonder how many people were blown up, crushed in the collapse or, worst of all, simply buried alive in the rubble. This is evil.
3:57 “Egypt doesn't want people from Gaza being able to enter Egypt because they're not Egyptian, they're Palestinians and Gaza is their land so they can't leave by land either. So what does that mean for 2.2 million people not to be able to leave by land, by sea or by air? It means that they live in an open air prison. It’s not a metaphor. It’s not a simile. It’s not a symbol. It’s a literal description of the lives of the people of Gaza. At the same time you have aggressive, massive settlements being built more so than ever all throughout the West Bank in a way that completely prohibits any possibility of Palestinian statehood which means the Palestinians will live indefinitely under the occupying rule of a foreign country, an occupation that the entire world considers Illegal.”
“The Israeli-Gaza War Did Not Start on Oct 7.” (15 min)
Glenn Greenwald. Feb 25, 2024
https://youtu.be/wO4hxzidrhc?si=FTGnGq96Tyr5IFep
Help me to understand.
Group A says that group B doesn't have a right to exist and elected Hamas to help further this goal. So Hamas does what its charter says it will do, attacks on 10/7, and does it in the most evil way possible. In what world, is Group B the bad guys, regardless of how they respond (needless to say, they are not responding with the same evil zeal of Hamas)?
Innocents being killed is horrific, but I fail to see how Israel could have done this differently. And if one considers that part of group A's plan was obviously the hope that world support for Israel would erode as they responded to the provocation it further exposes Group A's nefarious intentions. Their plan was to use the killing of their innocent people that they knew the response would produce to further their goal of the destruction of Group B. What redeeming qualities does such a group have? What more does one need to know?
John Mearsheimer talked about this with Lex Fridman. He said they had no good options put picked the worst one among them. They should have gone after Hamas with targeting of their leaders rather than war on the Palestinians. And why was the border with Gaza so unguarded on Oct 7? Where were the soldiers? They’d been redeployed to the West Bank to help settlers steal Palestinian land. You have no problem with that but I do.
“John Mearsheimer: Israel is punishing Palestinians.” (12 min)
Lex Fridman interviews John Mearsheimer. Nov 21, 2023
https://youtu.be/pX4WcB5r8zE?si=z0SYD5OSW-qAIN73
You fail to see how Israel could have not committed the genocide that they have? They could have done targeted killing with a policy of no more than 1 civilian collateral damage for every terrorist targeted as just one example. Instead they killed over 30,000 innocent women and children, wounded another 70,000 and displaced a million. That’s genocide by anyone’s definition.
You know I love you Libertarian, but again, I'm not understanding. Of course I don't want innocent people getting killed, but what would you have done if you were Israel?
And if you say I would have made sure our counter attack would have been more precise, I would say, that's really easy to say, but . . . .
And I love you because you are always a respectful thoughtful commenter, not sure if that's a word, lol.
Hey Bill, my limited understanding is that the IDF uses an AI system called Lavender to find, target, assess collateral damage, and launch their strikes. Apparently, it is coded to tolerate 30 civilians for a low level target and 100 civilians for any higher targets. So let’s say it wants to take out a group of 5 Hamas terrorists; it tolerates killing 150 innocent women and children in the strike. I think Lavender should be recoded to tolerate no more than 5 civilian collaterals for every 1 low terrorist target and no more than 10 for any high level terrorist target I also think Israel should immediately stop starving the civilians. Finally, 2 points; if someone was doing this to Jews I would protest also and when Hamas attacked I called my Jewish relatives and told them how horrific I thought it was. Take care, amigo. Much love.
I've never seen so many stupid people on one page ... or are you just a plain-old, vanilla ...
JEW HATER???
There WAS a cease-fire on October ... 6th.
There were NO Jews in Gaza for almost ... 20 years.
Gaza was/is ... it's own 'state' with it's own elected government: Hamas-nazi butchers
"Palestinians" (really no such thing) were offered a 2 state solution ... 7 ... 7 ... 7 times since 1948.
And rejected it ... 7 times.
Muslime nazi butchers only want '1' state... and no Jews allowed.
Nazi’s committed genocide; now Israeli’s commit genocide. Own it, bro.
the only thing YOU own is that you're a fucking nazi --
go plays with your set of Hitler cufflinks!
I am not a Nazi; I am against the genocide that they committed and I am against the genocide that Israel is committing now. Both are wrong. You on the other call for Turing Gaza into a dirt parking lot and killing more women and children.
Seva is a US Marine veteran and served our country; I’m quite sure you didn’t, profile.
Sasha - You are very smart and dedicated to the truth. I’m not you but if I were in your position, I would stay far away from the Israel-Palestine debate until I gained a full understanding of what’s going on there. I like your articles about Trump but I’m not going near anything you put up regarding this subject. I was brought up in a staunch Zionist family and have looked very closely on both sides. I don’t trust Israel at all and am totally appalled by the genocide they are carrying out.
Define “genocide” Then provide evidence, which is NOT terrorist propaganda to support your claim.
So many people operate with words meaning of which they do not understand 😢🤷♂️
Genocide is killing innocent people in mass. Not unlike to what Israel, the US, UK and a great many governments worldwide have done over the last 3 years forcing or persuading millions of people to take the sometimes deadly mRNA clot causing injections. Or do you consider that just more conspiracy theory propaganda as well?
If you had any intellectual integrity, you would not be spewing terrorist propaganda.
Every human life is precious. In times of war, unfortunately, innocent lives lost.
Israel’s kills incomparably fewer civilian lives than the acceptable war averages.
“Stupid is what “Jeff Schreiber” comments on substack” Forrest Gump’s wise mama
I’m so impressed with you brilliant commentary. Who are you inspired by?
Forrest Gump’s wise mama.
Yes. You are spewing conspiracy bullshit. Show me evidence that the mRNA vaccines are causing massive amounts of deaths worldwide.
I’m pretty certain you will quickly bash anything I show you and negate it for being some conspiracy theory shit so I’m not going to make a lot of effort to win your agreement. I can see it’s pretty untouchable which is fine. It’s your body and it’s your mind and you can decide whatever you choose. If you were really keen to learn about the the tragedies that have been faced by countless folks worldwide there is plenty to uncover right here on Substack. . The same with the few studies and collections of data that are out there. But you’re convinced it’s invalid and professional - certainly not worth your time. I’ve run across a number of people like you. So at this point I say why bother. But you might prove me wrong (after all that’s your aim) by watching this documentary. https://open.substack.com/pub/stevekirsch/p/know-anyone-thinking-of-getting-another?r=59dck&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
If the tens of thousands of dead and wounded were Israelis, I would call it genocide. That they are not Israelis seems to make a huge difference in the definition for many commentators here.
And you keep cutting and pasting this verbal shit, like a pigeon with diarrhea. Stfu
If you had any intellectual integrity, you would not be spewing terrorist propaganda.
Every human life is precious. In times of war, unfortunately, innocent lives lost.
Israel’s kills incomparably fewer civilian lives than the acceptable watch averages.
“Stupid is what Phillip Badger comments on substack” Forrest Gump’s wise mama
I agree with you completely, Jeff.
I would point out that it was Ben who attacked Candace first. When he did so at a supposed private gathering, giving a speech and it got recorded.
Also it's true they can fire who they want to, but in that case they can't criticize NBC for the Ronna McDaniel situation. It's the same thing. This was a pointless black eye for Daily Wire and it makes me respect them less. If her firing wasn't over Israel then they should explain why she was fired.
I'm a little disappointed in both – then again, I can afford to be, as I don't really have a dog in the "fight" between Ben and Candace.
It's Ben's enterprise, he's free to hire and fire as he sees fit. She should have just walked away, if the differences were so profound – if her content is compelling on its merits, she should have no problem getting a following pretty quickly, but I agree it will not end well, for her.
I don't think this will be nearly as injurious to Ben in the short-term, though I do believe that "fighting" with a woman, especially publicly, is not a good move – there's no winning that argument if you are a man, even if you are right.
Ben's conviction will serve him well, and let him prevail over the longer term.
Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International accused both sides of war crimes.
Nothing has changed, except that repeated strikes on humanitarian aid workers, and deliberate blocking of food aid confirm that one side used starvation as a weapon of war.
It's hard to believe that facts so telling could be lost on someone of this blogger's intelligence, but such is the power of talking points reinforced relentlessly over generations.
It’s not a war; its a genocide.
HR and AI have had their reputations fully in blood for a loooooong time
I agree with Glenn. I think the Zionists hijacked Judaism and are giving it a very bad name. This will increase antisemitism globally although probably not so much here.
“Opposing Israel’s actions in Gaza does *not* make you pro-terrorist.” (1 min)
Glenn Greenwald. April 6, 2024
https://youtube.com/shorts/9ni0WUKIrFQ?si=kWkqCpxGfObXXQMW
I appreciate this article.
Thank you.
I used to like Ben.
When he was removed from speaking at universities, I was rooting for him.
Than something changed.
Not only the cadence of his voice, but his stances.
I no longer listen to him.
And quite frankly, Candace either.
I’m Jewish.
I used to like Bibi. Until his Pfizer forcing upon the populace.
Than come to find out he’s WEF.
I do not support the killing of innocent people.
We / UK/ Israel fund Hamas. Just like ISIS.
The globalist want a canal through Gaza.
Nothing is right about any of this crap.
Apparently there was a stand down order for 8 hours, allowing the Israelis to be massacred.
More carnage the better to push public opinion?
Wars are a rich man’s power grab.
Using drones is disgusting.
If leaders want wars, you go fight em on the ground, Biden, Bibi etc. sacrifice your children for your cause.
I loathe all these globalist governments.
Not the people.
“Apparently there was a stand down order for 8 hours, allowing the Israelis to be massacred”
Kim Iversen, Glenn Greenwald, John Mearsheimer and others say Netanyahu has never wanted a two state solution. That’s also what this Jewish professor of economics in London says. Why was Israel’s border with Gaza so defenseless on Oct 7 when Hamas launched their deadly attack? Because the troops that were supposed to be guarding the border were redeployed to the West Bank to help Israeli settlers steal land from the Palestinians.
“How could the catastrophe on 7 October, which claimed the lives of at least 1,400 Israelis and has left 220 as hostages of Hamas, have happened? How could Israel lose control, over the course of a few hours, of an entire swath of its sovereign territory, including twenty-two kibbutzim and other villages? Beyond the obvious intelligence failure, one reason is that a good portion of the troops in the enlarged division that was meant to be guarding the Gaza border had been redeployed to keep order and protect an ever-expanding archipelago of tiny, often unauthorized West Bank settlements and roads leading to them. The sole purpose of these outposts was to establish a de facto Jewish presence in the West Bank and hence restrict the actions available to future Israeli governments. Objections and warnings by the defence establishment that the military and security services were overstretched, that the army no longer had the requisite forces or the time to train soldiers properly, were dismissed as the defeatism of an old and tired secular elite, by a growing chorus of hyper-patriotic, right-wing zealots, people often with little or no practical military experience.”
“A Generation of Misguided Policy in Israel.”
For more than a generation, defense policy and much else has been increasingly determined by the dictates of Israel’s religious settler lobby and its Messianic visions.
Quillette. Nov 5, 2023
https://quillette.com/2023/11/05/a-generation-of-misguided-policy-in-israel/
Vile, antisemitic post.
I'll bet you have a copy of "Mein Kampf" on your bookstand.
It was neither vile or antisemitic. You wanting to kill a million Palestinian women and children is what’s vile.
We will find out What Happened, Who Screwed Up. I think a lot of it came down to complacency, and overreliance on technology (ie Iron Dome).
(One mans opinion freely given and worth ALMOST that much.
That and the disarming of Israelis by their own government. You are your own first responder.
I have read THAT May be changing.
Somewhat. But it is still restricted and applies only to pistols. What they needed on Oct. 7 was rifles. I think the absurd ammo limit is still in effect.
I love Ben Shapiro, too. His quick wit and awesome takedowns of leftists crazies is a thing of beauty.
However, we all know MSM narratives cannot be trusted, especially the ones everyone agrees to. Oct 7 is one of those narratives where there are too many holes to ignore and buying the narrative hook line and sinker is something Ben has done. It is always the usual suspects named as the terrorists and who was behind them. Is it totally inconceivable that there may be rogue forces from Israel behind the Oct 7 attack? Did the IDF/mossad let it happen? Did the Israeli response kill many on both sides and then cover it up? Was any of the military hardware tossed indiscriminately around in Ukraine or Afghanistan used? Was it the CIA? If you can’t ask questions then it is propaganda not truth. Hiding behind accusations of antisemitism to shut down questions doesn’t work for me.
I don’t trust MSM either. Yet, Don’t even broken clocks right twice a day?