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John Duffy's avatar

Every new Substack I read by you impresses me even more. I'm so grateful you found your way out of the darkness of the left to become such an articulate promoter of the light. I left the left and communism decades ago, but it has become so much worse today that it was even worse in the 60s. I wish there were a way to have intelligent, respectful conversations and debates across the political divide like Charlie Kirk was doing, but I don't see it, and I'm a 100% optimist in life. So thank you for being a much-needed Voice.

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Kidbuck's avatar

I don’t have any hope that the Democrats will emerge from it EVER. They're swallowed up in evil.

Definitely move on without them.

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Matthew J Florio's avatar

We have to. Whether it's on the street, in the workplace, or in the halls of government, so many Democrats have done things you can't come back from.

No comity can exist with these people. They have disqualified themselves from ever being our countrymen again.

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Paul Scofield's avatar

"Comity." Excellent word for a Saturday morning! :-)

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Anti-Hip's avatar

That's exactly the mistake *they* committed. Don't be them.

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Matthew J Florio's avatar

These people wish you harm and want you dead. Maybe they're not going to pull the trigger themselves, but they'll do everything they can to help the one who does.

Act accordingly. There's a line between forbearance and cowardice that can be seen from where we currently are. And I'm sick of, "don't be them". Where I come from, playing by the same rules the other side observes is usually called "fair".

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Anti-Hip's avatar

"These people wish you harm and want you dead."

The portion of these people out of the full set of Democratic voters is quite small. The same thing exists on the Right, of course, and *they* show *those* unhinged people to *their* constituencies.

As we said in the 60s, "throw your TV in the trash". Now it applies to TikTok, Instagram, etc.

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Paul Scofield's avatar

Fair, but don't drown in the raging rapids with them, either. As a lot, they are not worth it.

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Anti-Hip's avatar

Under the right circumstances, nearly anyone is capable of evolving. Except for the tight limitations of time, everyone one encounters is worth it.

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Paul Scofield's avatar

Fairly rebuked. That said and to continue the whitewater analogy, I personally don't want to drown along with someone who is completely out of control, caught in an undertow or a strainer, however capable they may be of survivng under the right circumstances. Especially when their own deliberate actions put them in that position in the first place. I don't think the nation can afford to do so at this time, either.

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Matthew J Florio's avatar

I have a life to live that does not involve devoting myself to the rehabilitation of violently aggressive neurotics. Your mileage may vary.

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David White's avatar

DE-Ideology is unfalsifiable by design There is *no conceivable* negative evidence.

Ideology easily creates tribalism. See: Catholics and Protestants.

And tribalism justifies brutality. See: Catholics and Protestants.

Justifying evil is *the point*. And evil has two aspects: hate and harm.

Ms. Stone has missed a major aspect of the situation: the Marxist concept known as "praxis" demands that hate must lead to harm. The Demos are more than the party of hate. They are the party of harm.

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Jim I's avatar
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The Democrats greeted Trump’s 2016 election with a mixture of disbelief, anger, and despair.

They screamed at the sky.

They wore those vulgar pink hats.

They were provided safe spaces and blankets.

Despite all that they simply could not handle the shock of Hillary getting her ass deservedly handed to her by an outsider.

Their hatred grew and grew, quickly becoming so deep and pathological they tore apart their own families.

They came to believe they were perfectly justified to do anything necessary to destroy Trump, with words and actions so vile they eventually inspired two assassins.

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NothingButNet's avatar

Spot on! Hate eventually consumes the soul and destroys the hater. Dems are in the process of being destroyed by their hate.

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DDALEX20's avatar

To get a full accounting of how far Democrats in the Federal Government went, enjoy all currently 24 parts of the graphic novel by Doug Ross @directorBlue on SubStack starting with Part I. It just gets better with each part. https://open.substack.com/pub/directorblue/p/the-illustrated-spygate-scandal?r=1h9y3r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

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Lady Mariposa's avatar

So far, this is one of your best. I just had to stop and say something when I got to the woman saying that MAGA men only value women for their youth and looks. Much of my adult life I spent in New York City and almost all the men I dated leaned left. I wanted to get married and have kids, but I couldn't seem to make relationships work. Around forty, I tried to take a good look at what I was doing wrong and the only pattern I could discern was that my long term relationships often ended when I became sick in some way or another. I was basically pretty healthy when I was young, so they were all temporary illnesses, things that would be gone in a week. But the moment I couldn't cater to whatever the men wanted, the fault lines in the relationship would appear. They would whine and complain and be a burden just when I needed help.

Finally, in my fifties, I met a man who, as chance would have it, was not from New York and conservative. I was always slightly to the right of my socialist New York friends, so being slightly to the left of my new boyfriend wasn't a very big deal to me. I didn't expect that we'd think alike on everything. What was unusual for me was that he was a real man. He was responsible. He could take care of himself if he had to. He took care of his children. He stayed with his first wife until his children were out of the house. He stayed faithful to her despite the marriage being loveless towards the end. He is good to his mother. He tries to help a disabled brother. I didn't have any obvious health problems when we met. We bought a run down house with a big yard to fix up and plant a garden and I did a lot of that work. Then I got sick - very sick. Instead of fault lines appearing in the relationship, he helped me. I think I might have died a couple of years ago had I still been single. We came out the other side of that terrible time and I've gotten much better and I don't think I'm a burden on him anymore.

When that woman goes on about "MAGA men" she is pulling this from her own fevered imagination. If I had my twenties and thirties to do over again, I might have left New York City sooner and I definitely wouldn't have wasted my time on artsy, wannabe-intellectual men. I mistook self-absorption for depth.

You can tell I haven't had any botox by the way I'm always smiling these days.

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Cat C.'s avatar

"I mistook self-absorption for depth" - a brilliant and true observation!

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Christine Jones's avatar

This essay was sobering. It took me on a trip down memory lane to 2016, when Donald Trump was elected and none of my work colleagues and friends could accept it. One close friend yelled at me to not “normalize” his election, when I tried to comfort her and tell her everything would work out, just as it had in previous elections. When I reminded her that this is the American way: your preferred candidate doesn’t always win. I was talking to a lawyer. She knew the system. But she would not be reasoned with. She was convinced that Hillary had a RIGHT to win that year and she foolishly became a part of the so-called “resistance.” After observing the intervening years since 2016 of out of control Trump hatred, anti-Christian rhetoric and violence, vicious and unchecked rioting,and group-think craziness, I now know: these Democrats really do hate America. And they despise Republicans. They have gleefully dehumanized more than half of the country in their own minds. And their hatred actually makes them feel more righteous. All those insane people on TikTok saying “just do it.” That is pure evil, and only God can turn it around. So, we’d all better start praying harder. 🙏🏽

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Cat C.'s avatar
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Amen to that: "For we wrestle (fight) not against flesh and blood but against principalities, rulers and powers in the dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realm." Letter to the Ephesians by the Apostle Paul, Chapter 6, verse12.

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Christine Jones's avatar

Amen!

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Betsy Whitfill's avatar

At the beginning of all this, I talked to a lawyer who said that Kavanaugh was guilty just because he was being slandered! She argued with me when I said in America, a person is innocent until proven guilty. She said I was ignorant.

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Christine Jones's avatar

Because for them, the ends really do justify the means. If it’s useful to their political end to uphold the principle that a person is innocent until proven guilty, then they will uphold the principle. But they’ll never uphold that principle for someone they hate—someone like Kavanaugh or, God forbid, Donald Trump. Words mean whatever they want them to mean, and rules apply when they “feel like” applying them.

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DDALEX20's avatar

Having lived in NYC, in 2016 I did not vote for Trump despite being a lifelong Republican because he was a vile man. But, I have supported him ever since based on his Presidential performance. I believe the main source of hate began with Hillary the heroine of feminism losing to Orange Man. Democrats can’t get beyond that hate. All the other hate stems from that one event. If the haters could accept that Hillary is more vile than Trump, they might begin to see the light.

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reality speaks's avatar

Hilary is the most evil and vile person ever. She is satan itself.

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Marie Bjerede's avatar

This article just made me subscribe! It is the most articulate version of how things look from the right. I consider myself a libertarian socialist. In other words, don’t tread on me but let’s take care of each other. I’m not exactly a writer but in my substack I try to explore how to see from more perspectives in order to find common ground. I am hoping that your writing will be able t show me more clearly what I am missing.

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DDALEX20's avatar

You are getting there. . . The Republican Party is made up of a large number of libertarians who recognize the inevitable loss with the Libertarian Party. Democrats have taken the “take care of each other” to great extremes leading to a HUGE Federal Government and many able-bodied choosing to live on state subsidies rather than seeking employment. There is a fundamental principle that is often ignored by do-wells and that is when anything is free, the demand for that thing will grow forever. We have almost reached the breaking point in some cities.

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Marie Bjerede's avatar

Thanks for that. So I have a lot of questions. If you don’t want to respond, no worries - I’m still getting oriented. I do think the left has let their bleeding hearts overwhelm their reasoning minds. Well, ours, I guess. I register independent. But I think a lot of that is good intentions, clueless design and execution. Particularly tons and tons of unintended consequences. It takes excellent adaptive systems design to implement processes in a way that will actually accomplish the intended goals. Do you see malice or just incompetence?

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Kidbuck's avatar

Oh, then go back and check out some of Sasha's previous articles. Seriously.

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Marie Bjerede's avatar

I intend to!

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Anti-Hip's avatar

"a libertarian socialist ... don’t tread on me but let’s take care of each other."

Agreed. I think the human needs to strive for excellence in individual functioning (allowing natural hierarchies) on the one hand, and for cooperative/social functioning (controlling hierarchies with democracy etc.) on the other, are simply competing priorities that wax and wane, and were artificially separated long ago.

Regardless of the all the faults of the French Revolution, remember that the words "liberté [the Right], égalité [the Left (in reaction to the excesses of the Right)], fraternité" (the French national motto to this day) were connected to each other for a reason. (Meanwhile "fraternité", literally "brotherhood", but I think better read as "cultural cohesion", should never have been deprecated, as we are lately finding out in the West.)

By the time Marx came along, the two prioritizations had degraded to fully enemy versions of "the truth", not complementary parts of human nature. He took it to a new level by crystalizing and fomenting a basis for intranational wars. Seems to me he could have done set an alternative path, first by clearly and humbly identifying separating the normative from the positive in his theories.

Obviously, these miserable wars continue to this day, with the Marxists -> New Left -> woke religious traditions continuing to lead Holy Wars.

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Marie Bjerede's avatar

Yeah, I talk about honor culture (hierarchy) and dignity culture (network) and how we need both, but the proportions depend on the challenges we are facing.

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HEIDI's avatar

You say, Demoncrats "didn't used to be the party of hate".... Since when??? Dem Party was FOUNDED on slavery, continued w Jim Crow, segregation, KKK. BLM, Antifa, "Trans rights" (naked men allowed in women's private spaces & to beat them up on their sports teams), open borders forcing hard working Americans to subsidize criminal sex/drug traffickers, cartels, an epidemic of violent crime in EVERY single demoncrat run US city destroying mostly black lives they claim to care about in their PRO CRIME policies, I could on for pages, but please explain when demoncrats have not demonstrably been the party of hate, Marxists, Islamists, bigots & racists.

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MICHAEL BELL's avatar

Just like Islam is the religion of peace.

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Cat C.'s avatar

Great article except I think there was plenty of hate in the Democrat party and for a long, long time. It's just been either on the fringe (the socialists, Marxists, collectivists, violent "green", Weather Underground, a few of the Occupy Wall Street people, etc.) or it was in the mainstream, but hidden. Trump forced Democrats to bring it out in the open, by telling the truth on so many things that weren't allowed to be said - remember Hillary Clinton's "Deplorables who are Irredeemable"? She exposed herself (side note: Trump said once that he thought the "irredeemable" part was the worst of the two, I agree)., Ever since then, there's been a civil war in the Democrat party.

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reality speaks's avatar

The left has to hate because its worldview is all based upon lies. There is no truth in anything it says. It has used violence to enforce its view. It will continue to use violence because it has nothing left. There is a day coming when the Democrats will be thought of as the Whig party is today.

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D Parker's avatar

Their collectivist ideology is built on force and falsehood.

Leftists can't 'redistribute' the wealth – buy votes – unless they take it by force.

But they want to consider themselves to be the 'good guys' so they lie to themselves and everyone else about what they are.

But in the end, they are no different than that 'swashbuckling little ward politician' and his manure-coloured mob – minus the IBM punch cards and Hugo Boss uniforms.

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DayDawnBreaking's avatar

Thanks for sharing your story. I applaud you for questioning. I’ve often thought that either I am completely crazy or the other side is. But, I’ve tried to stay true to my core beliefs. It’s not easy. I recently was told by a niece that I was dead to her. Not because I said anything bad about her, but that I said I was tired of not feeling like I couldn’t express my own beliefs without condemnation and hate. I also said I didn’t believe the Trans should be medically transitioned because their bodies wouldn’t work properly afterwards. I don’t think that the medical community is adequately advocating for their health. I was a nurse for 30 years and was taught to be an advocate for my patients. Not to advocate for their bodies NOT to be healthy, but for their health. It’s a crazy, scary world we live in right now. I question everything now. I’ve definitely changed how I live because of it. I don’t always know what to believe, but I think if hate is part of it then I want to not be part of that life. I worry that I am being gaslighted too, but at least I’m questioning. I think that is the healthiest way to proceed.

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Cat C.'s avatar
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Yes, I was raised the same way: "Go under the knife as the very, very last resort". It was always thought insane to do it if you weren't dying. That's partly why plastic surgery got such a bad rap in the beginning...People thought "How vane can you be that you'd WILLINGLY have a dangerous surgery done?" I know we've had a lot of advancement since then, but people still die of "routine surgery" and I've heard the same thing - that their bodies never again "work right".

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Curt Chipman's avatar

You were a breath of fresh air last summer. Who is this lady Sasha Stone? Nice to find out.

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D Parker's avatar

Do leftists realize that they have been projecting all along?

That they are the Baddies, the fascists, the Ναζις?

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MLHVM's avatar

They became the party of hate one communist compromise at a time.

It's a death cult.

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Kurt's avatar
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Sasha, I’ve been playing solo acoustic at open mics in NYC. Lately I’ve been playing an original and a Dylan cover. Last night I played Every Grain of Sand. This morning I was thinking about what to play next while listening to your podcast. I had decided on Don’t Think Twice before I got to it in your podcast. Coincidence or cosmic confirmation? I’ll play it next week. You are the best!

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Notes from the Under Dog L.'s avatar

I wonder how to get these people out of wherever they get their "news" from into a more reliable territory. They never seem to know what is actually going on, what the most likely cause of a problem is, or why something was done. Case in point, Trump cracking down on Columbia University. They believe it's just because he's "against" universities. Try telling them the true cause of withholding federal funds from Columbia, and they reactively block you and cut you off. How can these people see the light if they keep pulling the shades down over it?

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James David's avatar

You could start by admitting all this emotional outpouring is bullshit...

They are weeds. Pull the weeds. The garden will be better for it.

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Tomas Pajaros's avatar

"I don’t know how we end this madness. I don’t have any hope that the Democrats will emerge from it any time soon. I guess that means we must move on without them"

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I don't think we'll have that luxury. The Left foisted the Covid nightmare on us for one reason: to beat Trump. No sitting president with a strong economy had ever lost. Answer: kill that economy. No matter how harmful to society, children, old people. They had to win no matter the cost.

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What are they willing to do today, to win in 2026 and 2028? Provoke riots and over-reactions? Continue the campaign casting Trump as Hitler and all Republicans as evil minions? Encourage assassinations, and hero-worship the shooters? This is all right out of the Leninist/Alynsky playbook AND WE HAVE NOT SEEN IT ALL YET, THERE IS MORE COMING. They'll stop at nothing to win. The worst from them is yet to come. Sabotaging the middle-east peace is definitely on the list.

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Paul Scofield's avatar

To answer the question posed in your first sentence, I propose Mr. Churchill, from the House of Commons in 1940:

"I can answer in one word: It is victory, victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory, however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival."

FWIW.

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