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Gilgamech's avatar

> How do you manage to do something even worse than raising money for murderers? Why, raising money for racists, of course.

Really Sasha, you’re going to go with that? The N word is worse than murder?

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An Appeal to Heaven's avatar

I can't believe that I have to say this, but both stealing and murder are worse than saying a racist word.

I can find all of the above actions terrible and I never desire to harm anyone by my words or actions. Yet, of the 3 actions listed, 2 are criminal in nature and one is simply the reflection of a poisoned soul.

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GabeReal's avatar

Yeah, but the stealing was by a 5 year old possibly autistic who may or may not have known better, whereas the mom knew exactly what she was doing.

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Upinthehills's avatar

Yeah, but…

I would rather be called an unpleasant word than to be stolen from or murdered.

This whole thing is ridiculous.

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Zaklog the Great's avatar

The kid's not five. I saw the video. That kids is at least 8 or 9.

And he's probably not autistic either. He's probably just a conscience-less African.

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Einsatz Grouper's avatar

It’s our right, as Americans, to call every single black person we see the n-word. End of story. If we want to be racist we will be racist because we’re free men not slaves.

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GabeReal's avatar

C’mon man…

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Einsatz Grouper's avatar

It’s better to not be bigoted, but it’s also not the governments business

People don’t need to be forced to live with black people at gunpoint, and that’s what’s literally happening.

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Candis's avatar

Poor Gabe. Definitely the wrong place and time for that "gotcha" shit. We're done with the word games. DONE.

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GabeReal's avatar

Don’t be rude. I’m not poor, and wasn’t attempting any “gotcha” shit. Just was going on what Sasha posted. And I stand by what I said, 2 wrongs don’t make a right.

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An Appeal to Heaven's avatar

Are you implying that people who steal or commit murder don't know "exactly what *they are* doing"?

Your statement is absurd on its face and you can not be a serious person.

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Ellen's avatar

If this kid was five years old and autistic, he may not have known what he was doing. But Karmelo Anthony, at 17, who brought a knife and then dared Austin to touch him and then stabbed him in the heart, must have known exactly what he was doing ...

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Zaklog the Great's avatar

Watch the video. That boy is way too big to be five. As always, they're lying to play on sympathies.

He's probably not autistic either. He's probably just unparented and feral.

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Billionaire Psycho's avatar

kid was ten years old

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Billionaire Psycho's avatar

we're talking about a ten year old kid robbing a 18-month-old, while being filmed on a children's playground by a Somalian pedophile

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Candis's avatar

Why is a five year old autistic child allowed to roam around obviously unattended?

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Marion's avatar

Exactly. A very, very stupid thing for her to write. I live in the U.K. and I and many white people here are so sick to death of the nonsense and the ruination of our country. I want remigration and lots and lots of deportations until Britain looks like it did in 1948 before all those ‘saints’ arrived on the Windrush, the beginning of the invasion by low iq blacks and browns. Oh, and by the way, I would send that young woman money if I lived in the US, also, the creature who filmed her (he sounds like one of the UK’s cultural enrichers) should be deported back to whatever s-hole he came from.

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Sally Sue's avatar

UK desperately needs a President like Trump

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NWCitizen's avatar

Your term "low iq" blacks & browns is definitely racist. Some of them may have been denied an opportunity for education. Is a person's value determined by iq?

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Frederick Roth's avatar

Education is a misdirection - in the olden days most people including minorities had little education but were honest because of values and social norms. In the modern era leftism has inculated a victim-therefore-can-do-anything mentality amongst the black community and the reverse among the white: always-have-to-concede-even-when-right.

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NWCitizen's avatar

It is very difficult for a person with no education to come to the US and function. I know because I have worked with refugees who could not read or write in any language. There is a problem with some black youth in the US not embracing education.

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Zaklog the Great's avatar

No, the problem is that they have a lower average IQ and virtually no impulse control.

STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THEM. WE'RE DONE.

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Frederick Roth's avatar

You haven't addressed anything I said. Many new African immigrants/refugees do not suffer the same endemic problems - actually do far better than the native black community, clearly indicating this is a cultural issue.

People in 3rd world countries are often far poorer and less educated than western underclasses and yet they have strong moral foundations.

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Zaklog the Great's avatar

No, they really don't have strong moral foundations.

Do you know why AIDS is endemic in Africa? Look up "dry sex" and then tell me about "strong moral foundations".

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Einsatz Grouper's avatar

There’s also some enclaves of really high IQ blacks in Africa. They did have a noble class that selectively bred in several places in Africa. They’re obviously over represented in the immigrant population

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NWCitizen's avatar

There are many successful African immigrants who came with a good education in their native country such as Nigerians. 40 percent of African immigrants have at least a bachelor's degree - but ones with NO education such as some from Somalia struggle in the US. Africans in refugee camps are desperate for education so they can move forward in life although many have no money and education is not free

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Marion's avatar

IQ matters a great deal - and should be one of the judgements countries make when they are considering allowing people into their countries. It is a fact that African and Middle East countries, and countries like Pakistan, have a lower average iq than Europeans countries. Why should Europe import these people - even if one or two of them are ok? Europe should have also considered comparability - religion, for example, but especially the very low trust cultures that all black and brown countries suffer under (probably due to low iq in part). Fraud, nepotism, tribalism, all play a part undermining the countries that these people with very bad cultural and religious habits bring with them. As I mentioned in my original comment, I live in the U.K. and the impact of third world immigration to my country is profound, and deeply unfair to the British. If you read anything about the torture and rape Pakistan men inflicted on British children perhaps you would come to understand that our terrible governments since 1945 should never have inflicted these people on us. Oh, and by the way - I don’t care if anyone calls me or my ideas, all based on a great deal of reading, racist, anyone using that word just makes me think they are the silly, naive cucks that have never been mugged by a never and will never work in his life, knife-wielding black, or had his daughter tortured and raped by a very low iq, welfare stealing, cousin-married Pakistani.

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Duncan A Turner's avatar

Cultures that allow cousin marriages lower their average IQ. The adverse outcome that results in a percentage of cases lowers the average IQ. I guess when sharia law is introduced in the UK (maybe will happen even before 2050) this problem will get worse. I am not being racist here, I am just talking about the inevitable adverse consequences when a certain religious ideology which is not evidence based (similar to the Covid lockdowns/vaccination ideology which was also not evidence-based) are followed.

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NWCitizen's avatar

"Fraud, nepotism, tribalism": So there's no fraud, nepotism & tribalism in predominately white countries? Just look at Trump and his clan.

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Seva's avatar

“Some of them may have been denied an opportunity for education.”

And they have been denied by blacks and Woke white leftists who consider meritocracy racist since it has a “disparate impact” on blacks and therefore must be replaced with equity aka race based equal outcomes. You people have done immense damage to the blacks that you claim to love. You people are insane, big time.

Bill Maher on Kamala Harris and Chicago public schools.

“Chicago Teachers Union: Tests are racist.” (2 min)

Illinois Policy. Oct 28, 2024

https://youtu.be/xp1DsUDCj1Q?si=cNST9rE_WvM_5qRw

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NWCitizen's avatar

I was talking about Africans who have had no opportunity for education because of poverty in Africa.

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Marion's avatar

IQ does not depend on education. Below a certain iq level very little can be done to improve cognition. Poverty has absolutely nothing to do with it, either. Europe was extremely poor until relatively recently…and yet…Cathedrals…the Industrial Revolution…Shakespeare, Mozart, Rembrandt…I could go on and on. My father, born 1913, left school aged 12, very little was spent on his education, his father had been killed in WW1, his mother was left to raise five children alone, no welfare, but he was bright and worked extremely hard in a country that was bankrupt by two world wars; he made the most of his life without any handouts. All countries have experienced extreme poverty at one time or another. Few modern countries have experienced going from high income, first world standards of living to a dangerous, corrupt hellhole - but South Africa has managed such a horrible feat in only a few years since the low iq population (who were not native to South Africa, just as I’m not native to France) took over from the whites who built that country from the early 1600s.

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Einsatz Grouper's avatar

You’re not entirely correct. Look up the Flynn effect. The increase in IQ may be imperceptible in a single generation but some combination of urban living, having a “book based” profession, and maybe good nutrition can increase IQ in a population by like a point or two per decade, and it passes along to the next generation. There’s some wild meta-genetics going on when it comes to IQ.

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Einsatz Grouper's avatar

There is an IQ gap *on average* but your last sentence is what’s key

There’s a WHOLE BUNCH of low IQ whites that are getting fucked in this modern economy too, we need to HELP our less intelligent fellow citizens, we can’t have a society where they’re useless. We need to make jobs for them.

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Zaklog the Great's avatar

No. It's just a fact. They have an average IQ much lower than white people. Education does not create or improve IQ. It just helps build on it.

Value? Value to the rest of us? Value to society as a whole? Partly.

Fuck off with your scolding.

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James Roberts's avatar

I didn't think she said it's worse, just warned against letting these people take over MAGA.

Personally, I don't think they are anything more than fringe, but of course, since we allow free speech, they will make themselves heard, and the Left will misrepresent them as mainstream MAGA. That's the battle - not to let them make that the narrative. And I think Sasha is trying to do that, by denouncing them and encouraging MAGA to ensure racism remains unacceptable.

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Gilgamech's avatar

She literally said it’s worse. Read the quote above.

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James Roberts's avatar

True. I missed the tree and tried to describe the forest. That is most definitely an ugly tree.

I guess, emotively, there is a class of people who collectively encourage each other in their racism, so in that sense it's a potentially big problem. Not so many murderers collectively encouraging each other, or, at least, there didn't used to be.

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John Rogitz's avatar

The way you control the narrative is not to lose all perspective, but to tell the libs to shove whatever their "narrative" is, belittle it, ridicule it, then ignore it.

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Candis's avatar

Exactly. The "narrative" doesn't need to be controlled. It needs to be eradicated!

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Will Martin's avatar

MAGA Is Cucked, It’s time for us to just be racist. Are You Jewish?

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Candis's avatar

Oh, like we all need schooled on the unacceptability of racism! Got it.

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James Roberts's avatar

No, my main point was that we should be mindful of letting the libs control the narrative by selling the behavior of those on the fringe as MAGA. Pretty sure I said this is not typical at all of most of us.

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James Roberts's avatar

Our Constitution allows (maybe a better word would have been protects) free speech. Apparently, most other countries don't. I 100% agree, you don't need my permission. And lol, never been mistaken for a Boomer before, at least, not by anyone other than my kids.

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Candis's avatar

Yeah, I'm done with having mere words weaponized aganist me to the point that I may not ever even think about certain words, while designated other people can even scream those words in the streets or repeat it over and over in their music, if they wish. I mean, WTF? DONE. But having a word that certain people are prohibited from using equated to being pretty much the same as murder is beyond the pale. DONE.

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Lynette's avatar

Dems have more money and media power to stoke their racist fires.

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Seva's avatar

“How Blatant Anti-White Racism Won Acceptance in Elite America.”

Real Clear Investigations. Sept 7, 2022

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2022/09/07/how_blatant_anti-white_racism_won_acceptance_in_elite_america_850879.html

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NWCitizen's avatar

Of the 2 murderers, Robert Crimo III and Darrell Brooks who killed people at Chicago parades, why is Darrell Brooks the only one you needed to rail against?

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HL3's avatar

Another leftists have more power than the GOP which is utter fake.

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Candis's avatar

Fake and 'boo-who-who' victim shit.

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HL3's avatar

So MAGA are victims now....

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Heidi Kulcheski's avatar

I don't think that's what she's saying she is saying that people will give in to their worse instincts. Obviously the word is not worse than murder but it is racist especially when the people cheering is use on are very specific about why they are OK with it. She is saying that we saying we need to take the high ground. Having said all that her comment about her friend saying see I told you they're all racist yeah well that was going to happen anyway Sasha. That group of people are not going to change their mind so I'm not with you on that that. Those that truly think Maga are all racist, well I don't think you're going to change their mind with anything.

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Heidi Kulcheski's avatar

After reading a bunch of comments here I want to amend my comment by adding that it isn't a word that harms black people when said by white people it's an ugly nasty word but it is just a word. It can't somehow be a word that when said by one race means nothing at all or something good and then when said by another race is actually harmful like really harms that person. That's just simply not possible that's a ridiculous contradiction.

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Cat C.'s avatar

Yeah, I don't get it either, but I think it's a rude, derogatory, hateful term, so I'd never use it anyway (although it wasn't when I was growing up - I'm about 6 or so years older than Sasha).

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Bob's avatar
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Note the title of Agatha Christie's very first best-seller. I am not a fan of people being taught to offended of things of which they were not naturally offended. (It reeks of taboos and superstition). A most perverse version of the White Man's Burden.

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Shannon Dennis's avatar

This is so obviously an Op! I’m sure there are some racists or people reacting poorly but the majority of these people and their money (which is probably fake too) are leftists trying to make MAGA look bad. I can’t believe you cant see it, Sasha.

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Cat C.'s avatar

Sasha actually did say that - that no doubt leftists were going and giving to the woman to make it look like MAGA is racist.

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Shannon Dennis's avatar

I guess I was confused then. But what I’m saying is the whole thing is an Op. How am I supposed to even believe this lady is for real and not some paid agitator in cahoots with this “Somali rapist” with a “5 year old autistic son”? And why would someone create a Give Send Go after getting doxxed? And how would her story “organically” go viral so fast? And what “MAGA” people do I know that have thousands of dollars to give to some lady they’ve never met? The story is fake. The “MAGA white supremacists” are fake. The people giving her thousands of dollars are not “MAGA.” This is a funded psyop to try to race bait and split up MAGA. People should just call it out for what it is and stop letting it emotionally manipulate them.

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R H's avatar

Thanks! No there are not good people on both sides. This is a battle between good and evil. Sanity vs insanity. Reality vs bizarro world. Pattern recognition. Learn it and apply it.

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Cat C.'s avatar

I think she was being sarcastic. Leftists think the N word is worse than murder.

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Bob's avatar

Nazi? (There, I said it).

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Ellen's avatar

That's how I interpreted it, that she wasn't saying she believes words are worse than murder, but most of the delusional left does, at least they'd believe the N word is worse than murder of a white person. (So quick and easy to misunderstand each other ... )

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Ellen's avatar

Maybe Sasha means that, not in reality, but in the minds of the left, and how they use things for propaganda, the N word is worse than murder. I don't mean to speak for her, just saying that may be what she means?

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Bidman's avatar

That statement by Sasha was tongue-in-cheek sarcasm.

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Gilgamech's avatar

Maybe but I am far from the only one who didn’t think so.

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DE's avatar

Sasha? Isn’t that code for commie jew tranny, negro?

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Bob's avatar

Probably not.

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DE's avatar

HAHAHA

Ok, White knight.

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Kiara Sands's avatar

The fact of the matter is that the race war has been stoked by Obama and the Democrats. Those more low information people who don’t see nuance and only see black-and-white, which are on both sides, is why we see this now and very possibly it’s being stoked as well. But it still comes down to this most white people were not racist before this whole situation. The absolute racism against white people have created the situation. Does it make right what she did no but I can understand it.

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Lynette's avatar

I would never return to the Democrat Party. Abortion turned Democrats into sociopaths. I'm glad Obama kicked out the working class in 2008 and chose the creative class. That's when I woke up. It showed me that Democrats are power-hungry psychos.

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WRE's avatar

Actually, the Psychopaths turned democraps into abortionists!!

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Glenda's avatar

I can understand it. A bit. But I could never say it. Born in 1951, I observed decades of progress made at great cost. We lived in that world together for awhile. Now, at 73, I see it coming undone and as you note, especially so since the Obama Administration. He could’ve used his bi-racial status to unite us even more. That failure now seems purposeful. Currently that camp is winning. And many on the Right are helping them. Ignorantly or purposely. What is the end game here? As for me: I want that better world my generation worked for, for my grandchildren.

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Oakley's avatar

Agree wholeheartedly. Much was sacrificed to undo the old racist culture and we did reap the benefits until O picked the scab off of the healing wound.

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madaboutmd's avatar

Ridiculous. This lands on Obama and his ilk.

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Alan Hodge's avatar

"What is the end game?" Violence. It takes only a small coterie of violent individuals to involve everyone in a race war. Once the feral losers of both tribes start killing each other, those who hate the violence are duty bound to arm up and defend their families, just in case the mob arrives.

Atrocity piles on atrocity, and soon enough "there are no innocents" as the Zionists say of the Palestinians.

In America, the violence will quickly become the pretext for martial law and the indefinite suspension of civil rights. Just what the globalists are aiming for.

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Glenda's avatar

My fear, described.

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Lady Mariposa's avatar

"That failure now seems purposeful."

I believe it was. Happy people don't create the revolution which will usher in utopia.

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NWCitizen's avatar

Obama's presidency allowed blacks to speak out about conditions which affected their lives which right wingers can't tolerate.

Reagan's admin was racist. The Civil Rights Act of 64 upset the racial balance in the US and he tried to reset it. It was no longer proper to use actual racial slurs so he used coded language like "welfare queens" for black women and "criminal predators" for black males. He greatly expanded the war on drugs by imposing stiff penalties for drug possession and trafficking, but police rarely looked for drug use in white areas, so mostly blacks were convicted and it lead to mass incarceration of blacks. Then the govt would not allow people convicted for drug use to access govt. benefits making it extremely difficult for them to re-establish themselves in society. See "The New Jim Crow" by Michelle Alexander

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Seva's avatar

“and "criminal predators" for black males.”

Cities like Chicago are full of “criminal predators” and it’s primarily other blacks who are their victims. Your Woke white guilt blinds you to this.

Woman speaks after being shot, wounded in Chicago this past weekend. (3 min)

CBS Chicago. Jun 11, 2024

https://youtu.be/gpGXZ1rmUek?si=P6P0tbHHgujdV9cL

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Einsatz Grouper's avatar

Given that the violent crime rates in this community you can make the argument that they’re actually under-incarcerated

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Kiara Sands's avatar

No one is condemning women who are not having children. I am pointing out that it is very important and it is the bedrock of society, whether you like it or not that is reality and when women do not understand how important motherhood is and being a wife society loses men lose children lose Everyone loses. Of course, everyone is not the same but right now even having children is being vilified. I’m glad you’re doing so much work to help that’s wonderful.

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Kiara Sands's avatar

That is one way to look at history. you know 3000 years ago in the Bible women had tons of freedoms specifically in the Jewish culture they could buy sell property have servants control their own households. I guess America’s short history has been sort of groundbreaking. There has been some good things that have come about but as of today, I would say the 40 million babies who are dead due to “choice”the sexually transmitted disease, the breakdown of the family women who do not enjoy being mothers or wives or understand the responsibility of what that entails for creating society Is a net negative. I know personally I live in amazing life and I know that not everyone would choose mine but that’s OK. The reality that history is a mixed bag. The influence of Judaism and Christianity on creating the western world which intern created the ability for women to have so much freedom should not be understated the idea that all men and eventually women were created equal development through that thought line. In the New Testament women were given freedom more than any other time. Men were called to sacrifice their lives for their spouse, and that men and women were meant to become one not one unequal part but equal parts when you look at the lives of people like Martin Luther, who started the Protestant Reformation, his life with his wife, was that of equal partnership and respect and honor for each other. Feminism has gone to the point to say we don’t need men and we are better than men a bit extreme don’t you think?

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NWCitizen's avatar

If some feminist says that, I don't agree. The right looks up to Andrew Tate as a good example of masculinity: https://www.newsweek.com/andrew-tate-tells-tucker-carlson-masculinity-banned-social-media-1737370

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madaboutmd's avatar

"The right" looks up to Andrew Tate?

A few on the right do, most do not. You'll always find a fringe element.

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Jacobite's avatar

Maybe people are seeing black and white because black and white is what is there right in front of their faces. What's unbelievable is that there are people who can't/won't see what is there.

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Kiara Sands's avatar

I believe we have a crisis of truth. People have been lied to so much. It’s hard to discern the truth for the lie, and there is manipulation going on intentional manipulation and we have a whole group of Americans who do not think critically do not know real history and have taught That things are black-and-white and that some human beings are better than other human beings and that some sexes are better than other sexes. It is all a lie of course we are all the same. We all have the same ability to be good or bad and sometimes we are very good and sometimes we are very bad.

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Jacobite's avatar

Maybe you believe that you are the same as all other people, but the science of genetics (plus observed reality) says you aren't. That statement is no more true than saying that there are no differences between males and females. Just genetically, males and females are less different than members of different races are. One good explanation of the real-life situation is to say that a white man who marries a female of another race, and has a child with her, will be more closely related to any random white person he passes on the street than he is to his own child.

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NWCitizen's avatar

"Just genetically, males and females are less different than members of different races are"

What gives you this idea?

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Jacobite's avatar

Counting chromosomes. X and Y are just two chromosomes -- racial differences cover all of them. Think again about that example of the mixed-race child. There's a reason why evolutionary genetics is only studied in underground bunkers -- it torpedoes Leftist delusions.

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NWCitizen's avatar

You know nothing about science.

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Kiara Sands's avatar

I guess what I meant was the ability to choose right from wrong not IQ or the difference that is between men and women and certain racial differences but we are all human beings and I believe we all have the ability to choose right and wrong. Of course I do believe in absolute truth, that murder is murder and it is wrong in all situations.

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Jacobite's avatar

Every sane person has the ability to choose right or wrong. Just so, different groups of people have very different standards of 'right' and 'wrong' -- so one person might be doing the right thing by his lights, but what he does is 'wrong' by another person's standards.

Groups of people are different, and normal humans do not like those who aren't like themselves ("in-group" and "out-group"). This is Human Nature 101, and it's axiomatic among Leftists that Human Nature doesn't exist -- that's why Leftism can never come close to 'working' among normal people, and why Leftists hate all normal people (definitionally, Leftists are either alien or abnormal).

You seem like a very nice lady. Maybe you need to get out and look around more; but please, please, please be careful where you're going.

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NWCitizen's avatar

"Leftists hate all normal people (definitionally, Leftists are either alien or abnormal)" LOL! You are a hater. Even Stone says, "I believe most people, on the Left and the Right, are decent."

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Kiara Sands's avatar

I believe we are both agreeing with each other. I just simply coming from I guess a religious perspective I believe that all people have sent and fallen short of the glory of God that we are all sinners and need a savior, but I do recognize that people are easily deceived, and a lot of people I talk to are very good people very kind people, but they do not have the time to look through the details and the nuance they have been trained to look at short bites and react emotionally. It is because our public education is garbage and there’s a crisis of truth and there’s a lot of manipulation going on. I’m not sure where you are worried about me going. I am well trained and always have protection.

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NWCitizen's avatar

Obama's presidency allowed blacks to speak out about conditions which affect their lives which right wingers can't tolerate.

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Kiara Sands's avatar

Oh please that’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard in my life before Obama (well honestly he was just hired to close the deal ) all of the people I know people didn’t see skin color the main people who see skin color are Black people. If there were bad things that happened to Black people it’s not from white right wingers it’s from the Democrats and they “war”on drugs and Lyndon B. Johnson who put as many people from the black community on welfare as they could and broke their entire family structure. start looking at your history. Maybe you should look at Allen keys or Thomas Sowell And learn something. You can also look at the white people in Appalachia, who are all on disability and they are violent and have nothing as well. People know what destroys people. And it’s the Democrats who’ve been putting into action.

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NWCitizen's avatar

Reagan's admin was racist. The Civil Rights Act of 64 upset the racial balance in the US and he tried to reset it. It was no longer proper to use actual racial slurs so he used coded language like "welfare queens" for black women and "criminal predators" for black males. He greatly expanded the war on drugs by imposing stiff penalties for drug possession and trafficking, but police rarely looked for drug use in white areas, so mostly blacks were convicted and it lead to mass incarceration of blacks. Then the govt would not allow people convicted for drug use to access govt. benefits making it extremely difficult for them to re-establish themselves in society. See "The New Jim Crow" by Michelle Alexander

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Kiara Sands's avatar

So you’re going to argue to me that none of the Democrats are racist? really you wanna go there? I haven’t read that so I can’t logically have a debate with you on it, but they’re always two sides to every story and especially when you have a certain perspective that you’re there to push everybody has one of those but it’s your side, That is pushing the separation based on anger and victimhood and you know what? United we stand divided. We fall if you look at the government as your savior who pays the piper picks the tune. Most right wingers don’t see the government as their savior. Remember what Reagan used to say scariest words to hear. “I’m from the government and I’m here to help” your perspective is flawed because you accept a caricature of people.

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NWCitizen's avatar

I think there is much less racism among Dems. Remember the white supremacist "Unite the right" rally in Charlottesville?

I started reading Fox when Trump was elected in 2016 to try to understand what the right believed. I was HORRIFIED by all the ugly racist comments I saw after articles about Blacks- mocking them, comparing them to sub-human primates and inviting them to return to Africa. I didn't realize many Americans still thought like that.

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Kiara Sands's avatar

Not to mention the very fine people conversation is a hoax. I’m surprised you don’t know that yet. If you were actually following truthful media, maybe you would know by now. Trump was 100% referring to the historians who did not want the statue taking down for historical reasons not the white supremacist and if you go look at the entire clip, he literally makes that point very clear.

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Kiara Sands's avatar

If you’re that naïve to think that the comments and Fox News actually represent the people that you see every day I don’t know where you live. But I know that I have lived in a community that is extreme right wing. All my life and racism has never been a thing. If anything, most of my community has outreaches to the black community do you ignore real truth like the fact that Margaret Sanger a democrat literally started Planned Parenthood to get rid of Black people? That the most unsafe place for a black child is in their mother’s womb.? Right wingers as you call them are generally pro-life. We adopt all colors. You are getting very confused with the people around you. Democrats are the ones who think that blacks are so stupid. They can’t even get a identification card to vote. That’s a joke and they’re using Black people.

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Pacificus's avatar

Sasha, most white folks don't hate black people, but many are afraid of them, and rightfully so in all too many cases... that is where this is coming from.... Hitler has nothing to do with it.

The controversy over a white woman using a word that blacks employ thousands of times a day is a contradiction that can no longer be sustained.

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Cat C.'s avatar

Maybe not. I'm for going back to when it was just a derogatory name and not "racist".

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NWCitizen's avatar

LOL! It was always "racist". Was it ever used for whites?

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Cat C.'s avatar

No, before the late '80's, early '90s it was NOT a racist term. How old are you? Whites would say it to blacks and I don't know if blacks said it to whites or not (if they were friends?) and blacks said it to blacks. (I'll just add here that NWCitizen pointed out that it was a racist slur in the south forever, which I grew up from about as far away from there as you can get and so I didn't have knowledge of that and that wasn't my experience).

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NWCitizen's avatar

You have got to be kidding! It was a derogatory term for blacks dating to slave days. I grew up in the south during segregation and I know it was always a racist slur. Racism was the norm in the whole country in the Jim Crow era , blacks were treated with contempt, could only live in the most run-down neighborhoods (red-lining) and whites felt free to use racist slurs. Now, during the hip-hop, rap era, blacks have "gained power" over the word by using it in their songs and expressions, but it is STILL a slur if a white uses it to address a black.

You don't seem to be well-informed about black history.

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Pacificus's avatar

The habitual use of "the N word" by black folk is not indicative of "gaining power" over the ugly term, it is a tacit admission of self recognition and self loathing, as Richard Pryor pointed out decades ago. Its use must stop--by people of all races.

Sorry white lady, your racial liberalism has gone stale. It has to evolve if we are to have any chance at progressing.

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NWCitizen's avatar

That's your opinion. I have black friends' describe it as controlling it. I would prefer no one use it.

Trump's actions and Project 2025 are full of "racism" under the guise of "eliminating" it.

The DOJ has lifted a decades-old school desegregation order in Louisiana this week. The agreement was put in place two years after the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which put an official end to segregation laws.

Officials called the 1966 legal agreement a “HISTORICAL WRONG"!

Desegregating schools was a 'historical wrong"? The Trump admin wants to overturn the Civil rights act of 64 and pretend that whites who hold all the power & wealth in the US are discriminated against. They will abolish any black history being taught in schools by calling it CRT. The white supremacist Hegseth is trying to eliminate any information about blacks in the pentagon database including black medal of honor winners by calling it "DEI". The military was not desegregated until 1948 and the Jim Crow era extended until 1964 when the Civil rights act was passed. Blacks in the military during the Jim crow era were caught up in racism and the term DEI didn't even exist until the 2000s. Repubs & Project 2025 want to reestablish white supremacy and make segregation LEGAL again!

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Frederick Roth's avatar

You have put it in a very simple but brilliant way! You could say the exact same thing about the relation white people have toward muslims as well, its a perfect analogy.

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Jeff Zekas's avatar

In prison, where I worked for 2 decades, respect was paramount. Every inmate was racist, in that they ran with their own “car”. Racism wasn’t a factor. Money, power and drugs were king. In the outside world, these stories about racism are obvious race baiting, so that the ruling class can divide and conquer. Now you know.

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Candis's avatar

Can't believe she won't or can't understand that.

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Morgan Leake's avatar

Racism is bad.

The mother using a racial slur on a five year old is bad.

The five year old, allegedly stealing, is bad.

The father of the alleged thief, who apparently has a criminal record involving kids, is bad.

Everybody in that video situation is wrong.

I would not contribute to a GiveSendGo for any of them.

But saying that the racism of using a racial slur is worse than murder is bit of a reach.

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John's avatar

Liberalism actively encourages the collectivisation of non white ethnic groups while openly condemning as racist the slightest sign of in group preference amongst whites. This 2 tier approach is not sustainable and either we move towards abolishing all race collectivism (which the left will never allow) or we move to a system of permitting collectivism to all groups (which the left will never allow).

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Tom D's avatar

Giving money to these individuals is a passive aggressive way to wage war against the other side. The real losers (besides the donors themselves who have real psychological issues) are the people who are really in need of help. The concept of a "victim" has now been perverted to ridiculous extremes...almost always political. To me, this is the consequence of the "words are violence" culture fully maturing and metastasizing into a cancer that destroys those it infects.

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J David Krauser's avatar

Sorry, Sasha. I can't join you on this one.

To worry about what others think of me makes me their prisoner. I refuse to don the thought shackles of others.

As one who is much closer to the end of his journey than the beginning, I have no qualms about meeting my Maker with every impious and/or bigoted thought of my life up for judgment. I have treated all with respect and dignity until they have treated me otherwise. We have been subject to thousands of racial hoaxes during the past several decades whether it be the NASCAR noose, Justin Smollett, the blech California coed who wrote racial insults on her own dorm room door and then blamed imaginary campus bigots, the black whore who accused the all-white Duke lacrosse team of gang rape, etc.

To write, as you seem to do here, that one cannot throw pebbles after being the target of a landslide of boulders is the equivalent of voluntarily taking a seat in the electric chair and throwing the switch.

I won't do it and I care not a whit that it "gives ammunition" to the Lefties who excoriate me anyway. Why should anyone of character care what those who defend gang members, what judges who abet lawbreakers, pedophiles, or professional racebaiters think or say about me?

I understand that you will never be entirely comfortable on this side of the divide. After all, you've lived your entire life on the other.

But get real. Calling a black thief a nigger (which is what I assume occurred here) is not the moral equivalent of preventing black people from voting or exercising other facets of citizenship or denying one the respect to which all of God's children are entitled.

Please give the matter some more thought. You have become an eloquent chronicler of the journey from false idealism to hopeful realism.

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John Rogitz's avatar

Nailed it. If you care what others will think of you should you call a thief or a sex pervert filming you an unapproved name, you are in fetters.

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Cat C.'s avatar

Amen. "I stand approved by God and not by men".

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Linda's avatar

I don't trust any of these people on fundraising sites. I only give to people whom I know. How do we even know if people are whom they say they are anyway? One of the oldest tricks is to pretend to be MAGA and say horrible things online to make MAGA look bad.

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Susan G's avatar

Absolutely correct. I do not pay any attention to a radom poster on X.

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Dick Minnis's avatar

The left is loosing the cultural war, because most of us are in the middle. So the only strategy left is to provoke the extremes on both sides to fight, and then try to shift the narrative to encompass what it does not. MAGA / MAHA is not racist. Supporting equality is something Martin L. King espoused. Trying to impose equity results is about as far from equality as you can get. Want to improve the lot of minorities? Then fix the school systems and restore discipline and order to the classroom so young people can get an education and have a shot at prosperity.

Dick Minnis

removingthecataract.substack.com

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Marsali S.'s avatar

I couldn’t agree more. The schools in the black community in my county are horrendous. Literacy and math is thrown out the window. It’s been going on for decades and everyone looks the other way.

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Pacificus's avatar

Yep, the racism of low expectations is the worst racism of all. Truly toxic to the well being of a people. And a lack of money does not explain the failed schools.

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Jon M's avatar

Is there a racism of appropriately tailored expectations?

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fredfriendly's avatar

That's because there is no parental involvement holding the school's administrators feet to the fire. When you expect nothing, you get nothing.

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Jon M's avatar

And what is the demographic makeup of the administrators at these schools that underperform?

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Bob's avatar
May 4Edited

There is no parental involvement due to the State paying families to not have parents. (I first began despising the government in 1989 when we got three calls in two months from the Illinois DHS (or HUD?) in Swansea Illinois asking if the father of the two children in the voucher home next door was "staying the night" (thus breaking the rules of the system the family used to pull themselves out of neighboring horror show of East St. Louis and into a real school district. In other words, a very precious family using the system AS INTENDED, not as a permanent lifestyle.

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fredfriendly's avatar

You are correct. Pretty bad way to start life. I've seen too many Grandma's stepping up to cover for the parents - or should I say cover for the mother.

To see the neglect makes me reconsider my stance on abortion.

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Ripple's avatar

Apologies for being spelling police but this error is so maddeningly common and usually amidst otherwise articulate and correctly spelled writing that it makes my brain hurt.

The left is losing the culture war, not "loosing."

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Dolores's avatar

Thanks for the clarification! I always write losing, but then I get insecure and think I’ve made a mistake and should write loosing. Then I think loosing means the opposite of tightening or loose with the facts!

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Dick Minnis's avatar

No apology necessary, I sometimes rely to much on the auto-correct to catch my mistakes when furiously typing and fail to proof read before sending. Thanks,

Dick Minnis removingthecataract.substack.com

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Jon M's avatar

education and education funding is likely not the issue and therefore cannot be the solution to closing the gap that you are hoping against hope that it is.

Fact of the matter is pre pandemic our Asian students beat almost every Asian country except Singapore in reading and math, our White students bear every European country except Finland, and our Black students beat every African and Caribbean country.

Poor inner urban schools receive more money than suburban schools per pupil head. Funding isn’t the issue. The quality of the student body is the ONLY thing that consistently tracks with test scores.

I don’t think we should give up, but the idea of closing the gap here is pure fantasy. At best we can rise all boats, but the gaps are not going to close in this century and everyone who has looked at the data in an unbiased way knows it!

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Dick Minnis's avatar

I never meant to imply fixing the school systems hinged on more funds being allocated. Quite the opposite. The impediment to improvement is the teacher's union. Who would would simply purloin the funds for pay raises or additional administrators. There has to be a reinventing of the lower education model that focuses on merit and prevents classroom disruptions. Perhaps Texas may be on the cutting edge, allocating 10K per student in the furtherance of educational choice. If the Teachers Union can't get on board, then simply bypass the roadblock with vouchers for schools that do. Then RIF the excess staff in under performing public schools. Just one possibility.

Dick Minnis

removingthecataract.substack.com

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Will Martin's avatar

You sound cucked. Are You Jewish?

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Dick Minnis's avatar

Congrats for adding absolutely nothing to the discussion except a crass acusstion. Grow up.

Dick Minnis removingthecataract.substack.com

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mark aaron's avatar

The N word? Nigga? Nigger? When in the history of the world did one word become verboten to one group of people but completely acceptable for another group to use that word freely? This is part and parcel of controlling the narrative and policing the speech to achieve a ideological goal. Watch "48 Hours" and see an open society in action: Nick Nolte and Eddy Murphy.

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peggy bean's avatar

I am white and 78 and hear the N word everywhere in downtown Sacramento. It's kind of lost it's power.....like the overuse of the word fuck. Now everyone says it!

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James Peery Cover's avatar

That is really funny. I have hardly heard it at all since I moved from Virginia to Alabama in 1982. ( The only exception was a neighbor who clearly had senile dementia. It was a problem only when we had Black contractors putting in some new flooring. They handled it in a very classy manner.)

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Upinthehills's avatar

Not everyone. In downtown Sacramento you have to worry about the homeless laying around everywhere, the criminals and the crazies. Bad words are the least of the problems down there.

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peggy bean's avatar

You are so right. So many crazies there. So sad.

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JVC's avatar

Since I don't really follow the "news" I'm not at all familiar with the incident that has apparently created such a ruckus. However, I do know that we will never have a color blind society as long as the government at all levels promotes racism. Think about it--have you ever filled out an official form of any sort that does not have the "race" question on it. Personally, if available, I select the other option, and then write in "Human" LBJ created the current Black "culture" by destroying the Black family structure with his great society welfare bull s**t programs. Good character cannot be developed in a fatherless family--especially when the rules take the father out.

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Jacobite's avatar

Forget the Government. There never has been and never will be a color-blind society -- at least for long. Being blind is a fatal handicap in the battle for survival.

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NWCitizen's avatar

Reagan's admin was racist. The Civil Rights Act of 64 upset the racial balance in the US and he tried to reset it. It was no longer proper to use actual racial slurs so he used coded language like "welfare queens" for black women and "criminal predators" for black males. He greatly expanded the war on drugs by imposing stiff penalties for drug possession and trafficking, but police rarely looked for drug use in white areas, so mostly blacks were convicted and it lead to mass incarceration of blacks. Then the govt would not allow people convicted for drug use to access govt. benefits making it extremely difficult for them to re-establish themselves in society. See "The New Jim Crow" by Michelle Alexander

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Joseph B's avatar

There are idiots and bad people on both sides. Fortunately for conservatives, they are fewer and less inclined to be violent. This feels like an obvious set up to me.

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An Appeal to Heaven's avatar

Even, Ms. Stone points this out in her piece!

What an absolutely "perfect" shit storm. The only people who benefit would be those who wish for a divided America.

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Jacobite's avatar

The United States (a state) is divided. America (a nation) cannot be divided, by definition.

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Sun Love Pax's avatar

This story drives me nuts b/c I have a a special needs kid.

The thing is that plenty of autistic people live in society w/o being kleptomaniacs. Being black or autistic isn’t an excuse for not teaching your kid how to live in society with other people.

My son got called out on his bad behavior when he was younger, so now he doesn’t behave like a monster in public now that he’s older.

I’m so sick of entitlement and excuse culture. Teaching kids not to steal is up there as a basic thing parents should do if they want their kids to be successful in civilized society.

I don’t like the N-word either, but the backlash was and is going to get ugly. It fits in with the social upheaval of a fourth turning. We’ve been heading towards this since the 2010’s.

You can only push people so much before they lose their s-t and give zero cares.

A lot of us don’t care anymore about hurty words or ‘stories’.

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Kiara Sands's avatar

I came here to say the exact same thing racism is not worse than murder.

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fredfriendly's avatar

"Checkmate?" Really Sasha? That's a little dramatic. It sounds like Real Life to me.

It's not a good look for that mother to lose her cool like that, but that hardly makes her enemy #1 racist of the day.

I'm more concerned about your "friend" that can't wait to say "I told you so!" She sounds about as mature as the gal involved in the playground dust up.

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