Amazingly, I was having a conversation this morning with someone who said they were still "on the fence" about whether or not Bobby is a good choice. I responded, "For me, the most ringing endorsement is the opposition from his lifetime-politics family. They're all slimy to me."
I share your sentiments. I'm 70. Like you, I was once enamored of this family - and then…
Yes, RFK has his flaws, as do we all, but he is honest to a fault. That's more than we can expect from most political operatives. I'm happy to see him on board. And if he pisses off the left, all the better. The "Great Unhinging" is a delicious byproduct of this administration. I admit that I love to see the left shitting themselves blind. And I'm too old to care what anyone thinks about my guilty pleasure. I was on the left for 48 years. I've earned the right to despise them for what they attempted to do the country.
I'm also 70 and was liberal for approximately 48 years, so your insights resonate with me. I quit the dems when I began to realize their policies, no matter how well intended, were often destructive. Now what I see is anger, denial, and hatred from the left because most of us have figured out the well-intended part was often just a cover to make money and little good happened. The pharm companies and the whole medical establishment are perfect examples. Like J.D. said, "I don't care what they think." I want real change with accountable outcomes.
Same, except I’m 60. This is what happens when ego swallows heart. It sucks.
But I watched a great interview with Megyn Kelly today and she reminded viewers that Trump was a longtime Democrat before he ran. I predict that he will govern as a moderate.
My problem with RFK is that a great deal of his thinking is not based in Science. America has significant health problems that can be dealt with prevention as opposed to pharmacology. That part of his program is a great idea. We eat crap and our life is one big prescription drug ad (just turn on the TV). However, I don't agree with him about vaccines like measles and mumps that have been proven to work. Let's be clear the pharmaceutical world isnt left or right, it's green.
Any chance there is some jealousy here? Kennedys were always very competitive. Maybe Caroline thought she was ahead with all her silly ambassadorships, in terms of carrying on the Kennedy Legacy? But RFK Jr is the real thing.
Kennedy found herself paraded around by Obama, took the veil as an ambassador to Japan, then was stifiously snubbed thereafter. Her cousin, on the other hand, was heeded by the new president an given a real job. Caroline is consumed by envy. Her ill raised son amplified her attitude by mocking RFK's spastic dysphoria in a video. The horrible attitude is painfully obvious.
The mockery of RFK, Jr's vocal disability shocked me. From a Kennedy? Whose great aunt began the Special Olympics? Whose grandfather was beset by severe illness his entire, brief life? Awful.
Funk yeah. I can hardly contain my joy and excitement for MAGA/MAHA. I never thought I’d see this kind of movement. Our leaders are flawed people but they are taking literal bullets for the American people.
She knows but obviously has sold her soul many years ago. Her whole family benefits from the system and doesn’t want any truth about his or her father’s death
What do you know about The Cuban Missile Crisis? Not one damned thing, I will bet. In choosing a blockade of Cuba in October, 1962, President Kennedy acted against the unanimous conviction of the ExComm group that we should do an overwhelming knockout strike of Cuba to capture the Soviet ICBMs and decapitate the Castro regime. The ExComm group were all of the government's top military and foreign policymakers, plus venerable elder statesmen such as Dean Acheson. Even Attorney General Robert F Kennedy, who was in on the deliberations, urged a strike, though later, he denied that he had ever been less than supportive of the President's view. ( Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan. )
JFK couldn't get past his instincts that there was something inherently wrong with what the rest wanted to do, and twenty - seven years after his assassination, we found out what that inherently wrong thing would have been:
When the Russians declassified The Venona Papers in the early 1990s, we learned to our horror that the Russians had snuck not just ICBMs into Cuba, but tactical nuclear weapons, as well. If JFK had gone along with the unanimous advice, the Russians would have used the tactical nukes against our invading troops. Kennedy would have been obligated to respond.
In 1962, we didn't have a hotline between The White House and The Kremlin. At one point on Saturday afternoon, October 27th, the most dangerous day of the most dangerous crisis in world history, Kennedy wanted to send a message to Khrushchev in Moscow. The White House had to phone Western Union. A few minutes later, a 15 year old kid who had a Saturday job for Western Union came by on his bicycle to pick up the message.
If Kennedy had done what the group wanted, we would have had nuclear immolation.
I'm having to do this in parts, which is what you get when you pay $39.99 for a phone.
Kennedy was a reader and a thinker. His thinking about Cuba in 1962 had been shaped by Barbara Tuchman's then new book about World War I, "The Guns of August." He knew how easily miscommunication and miscalculation could happen. If we had had a President with less guts, less moral courage, you and I wouldn't be having this exchange.
Then, of course, there is the whole matter of his extraordinary courage during World War II. He was one hell of a lot more than a rich boy whose Daddy bought him the Presidency.
Bobby, why doncha enlighten the group here on the followup activities of JFK regarding the Bay of Pigs invasion. You know lots of history, they all might be interested in your views about that.
Although I believe it's true that Joe Kennedy bought the presidency - JFK himself made the joke that he had told his dad not to buy one vote more than necessary in Cook County - it's also true that the womanizing JFK showed real courage under fire, both in the Navy and in the Cuban Missile Crisis (see Bobby Lime's comment for details). JFK illustrated in colorful detail that humans are not ever perfect! All heroes have feet of clay. It's part of the human condition. IWe are a confusing puzzle of degrees of virtue ... and its opposite.
I wasn't going to watch the video, but am glad I did. This is beyond sad. Haters are gonna hate. To do this to a family member is almost inhuman. I would like everyone to remember that it was Caroline and Uncle Teddy who passed the Kennedy mantle to Saint Barack and thereby, in a very significant way, unleashed the nightmare of the past 16 years upon us. She has absolutely no credibility.
Caroline is disgusted by cousin Bobby, but respects uncle Teddy who left a young woman to drown in order to save his political skin? She is a piece of work.
Democrats will celebrate Caroline. I could only stand so much of Caroline and didn't finish the video. She is the dangerous, uncaring, ignorant, arrogant human that populate the Democratic party. I think of Oregon's Jeff Merkley and Ron Wyden are cut from the same cloth of profound ignorance and have decades of uncaring about the dismal declining health of American children. To my knowledge there is not one Democrat on the federal or state level that deserves any respect, period.
Oh please. so have a lot of people but they didn't have the spotlight on them from day one and gobs of money to do anything they want and now to disgrace herself with this kind of rhetoric. She is ugly in side and out. She should hide and never come out in public again. I am sure Mommy and Daddy would NOT approve. RIP
I was surprised how angry her nasty remarks made me. I’ve never been interested in the family so didn’t pay attention until RFKJ interested me. It’s so - clearly a political hit job. Predator indeed - she is deliberately using a sexually charged word knowing some people won’t pursue information and assume “the family admits he’s a sexual predator.” Just inexcusable. Didn’t respect or disrespect her before since I wasn’t interested but now I feel she is unworthy of serious consideration.
He wouldn't be my choice, or even on the list. He has his marching orders and probably will follow through. After that, who knows, but I strongly suspect he'll be gone within a year or so, well before the midterm election cycle.
Agree. She is exactly why RFK needs to be confirmed. Aside from the fact that she's as bad of a swamp creature as there exists, it takes a horrible person to dump on your own family member.
Exactly! Talking about the drug abuse and RFKJ pulling other cousins into it? When she is “honest” about own her father’s many personal issues, I’ll take note of the dumping on the cousins.
Kudos to all of you that could watch that whole video of Caroline. It made me sick to watch her air her cousin's past mistakes for everyone to see. I couldn't finish it. Calling him a predator with no explanation was evil. Is 'Bobby' perfect? No. He may not even be a good man, and honestly, I'm not sure how many good men there are in politics. If he can break the back of Big Pharma, straighten out the FDA, and clean up our food, then he will have done a great deal of good for America. That's good enough for me. Caroline can go you-know-what herself. And for Pete's sake, ditch the ugly glasses. They make you look stupid. There, rant over.
“Not everyone in this country lives the kind of life she does” let me tell you all Biden appointed her ambassador here in Australia and she spent very little time her in the role. Just flew in occasionally. A waste of space who now lectures you all. Heaven help you all. Shameless to say RFK is unqualified by someone who has no qualifications to be ambassador.
To be fair, there are actually no qualifications for anyone to be ambassador. It is a relic of the time before telecommunications and a sinecure for supporters of whoever is President. Great parties though which the taxpayers pay for.
Amazingly, I was having a conversation this morning with someone who said they were still "on the fence" about whether or not Bobby is a good choice. I responded, "For me, the most ringing endorsement is the opposition from his lifetime-politics family. They're all slimy to me."
Like Tulsi Gabbard, RFK has all the right enemies.
I was struck from the thumbnail how much she's beginning to resemble the evil old man, the patriarch/monster, Joseph Kennedy, Sr.
It's those insectoid glasses.
Just who does she think she is?
I'll tell you who she is—a little enole whose ancestor was a gila monster, that's who.
“…insectoid.” Wonderful writing. Her pinched face doesn't help, either.
To each their own. Kennedy is one of the main reasons I was swayed towards Trump, along with Tulsi.
Yes.
True of everybody, eh.
I share your sentiments. I'm 70. Like you, I was once enamored of this family - and then…
Yes, RFK has his flaws, as do we all, but he is honest to a fault. That's more than we can expect from most political operatives. I'm happy to see him on board. And if he pisses off the left, all the better. The "Great Unhinging" is a delicious byproduct of this administration. I admit that I love to see the left shitting themselves blind. And I'm too old to care what anyone thinks about my guilty pleasure. I was on the left for 48 years. I've earned the right to despise them for what they attempted to do the country.
I'm also 70 and was liberal for approximately 48 years, so your insights resonate with me. I quit the dems when I began to realize their policies, no matter how well intended, were often destructive. Now what I see is anger, denial, and hatred from the left because most of us have figured out the well-intended part was often just a cover to make money and little good happened. The pharm companies and the whole medical establishment are perfect examples. Like J.D. said, "I don't care what they think." I want real change with accountable outcomes.
Great post. We are not alone. I wish we had arrived sooner at the truth, but here we are. We will do what we can.👍🏼
Very well said thank you.
🙏🏽 thank you, and I love your handle. One of the best ever. 😂😂😂
Thank you -when I enrage liberals they attack the name and it gratifies me.
😂😂😂👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Same, except I’m 60. This is what happens when ego swallows heart. It sucks.
But I watched a great interview with Megyn Kelly today and she reminded viewers that Trump was a longtime Democrat before he ran. I predict that he will govern as a moderate.
What you said! 👏👏
My problem with RFK is that a great deal of his thinking is not based in Science. America has significant health problems that can be dealt with prevention as opposed to pharmacology. That part of his program is a great idea. We eat crap and our life is one big prescription drug ad (just turn on the TV). However, I don't agree with him about vaccines like measles and mumps that have been proven to work. Let's be clear the pharmaceutical world isnt left or right, it's green.
Any chance there is some jealousy here? Kennedys were always very competitive. Maybe Caroline thought she was ahead with all her silly ambassadorships, in terms of carrying on the Kennedy Legacy? But RFK Jr is the real thing.
That was the vibe I was getting! You're the first I've seen to remark on it.
Bingo! She wanted to be Senator from New York when Hillary quit to become Obama's Secretary of State.
Kennedy found herself paraded around by Obama, took the veil as an ambassador to Japan, then was stifiously snubbed thereafter. Her cousin, on the other hand, was heeded by the new president an given a real job. Caroline is consumed by envy. Her ill raised son amplified her attitude by mocking RFK's spastic dysphoria in a video. The horrible attitude is painfully obvious.
The mockery of RFK, Jr's vocal disability shocked me. From a Kennedy? Whose great aunt began the Special Olympics? Whose grandfather was beset by severe illness his entire, brief life? Awful.
Er, "studiously" snubbed.
That was my thought too.
You could be right or perhaps she’s more like her dubious Uncle Teddy.
she sure is an unattractive person and far from the stunning woman her mother was, she resembles the Kennedys, not a good look.
Funk yeah. I can hardly contain my joy and excitement for MAGA/MAHA. I never thought I’d see this kind of movement. Our leaders are flawed people but they are taking literal bullets for the American people.
She is exposing just how vile and evil the left truly is. Her Father would be so ashamed of her.
Indeed: "Sometimes, party loyalty demands too much."
- John F. Kennedy
And has she forgotten that RFK, Sr., was killed while campaigning for the presidential nomination against the Democratic Establishment?
She knows but obviously has sold her soul many years ago. Her whole family benefits from the system and doesn’t want any truth about his or her father’s death
I don't think he would be, thst man had absolutely no business being the POTUS in the first place. His daddy bought him the Presidency.
What do you know about The Cuban Missile Crisis? Not one damned thing, I will bet. In choosing a blockade of Cuba in October, 1962, President Kennedy acted against the unanimous conviction of the ExComm group that we should do an overwhelming knockout strike of Cuba to capture the Soviet ICBMs and decapitate the Castro regime. The ExComm group were all of the government's top military and foreign policymakers, plus venerable elder statesmen such as Dean Acheson. Even Attorney General Robert F Kennedy, who was in on the deliberations, urged a strike, though later, he denied that he had ever been less than supportive of the President's view. ( Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan. )
JFK couldn't get past his instincts that there was something inherently wrong with what the rest wanted to do, and twenty - seven years after his assassination, we found out what that inherently wrong thing would have been:
When the Russians declassified The Venona Papers in the early 1990s, we learned to our horror that the Russians had snuck not just ICBMs into Cuba, but tactical nuclear weapons, as well. If JFK had gone along with the unanimous advice, the Russians would have used the tactical nukes against our invading troops. Kennedy would have been obligated to respond.
In 1962, we didn't have a hotline between The White House and The Kremlin. At one point on Saturday afternoon, October 27th, the most dangerous day of the most dangerous crisis in world history, Kennedy wanted to send a message to Khrushchev in Moscow. The White House had to phone Western Union. A few minutes later, a 15 year old kid who had a Saturday job for Western Union came by on his bicycle to pick up the message.
If Kennedy had done what the group wanted, we would have had nuclear immolation.
I'm having to do this in parts, which is what you get when you pay $39.99 for a phone.
Kennedy was a reader and a thinker. His thinking about Cuba in 1962 had been shaped by Barbara Tuchman's then new book about World War I, "The Guns of August." He knew how easily miscommunication and miscalculation could happen. If we had had a President with less guts, less moral courage, you and I wouldn't be having this exchange.
Then, of course, there is the whole matter of his extraordinary courage during World War II. He was one hell of a lot more than a rich boy whose Daddy bought him the Presidency.
I suggest you learn some history.
Bobby, why doncha enlighten the group here on the followup activities of JFK regarding the Bay of Pigs invasion. You know lots of history, they all might be interested in your views about that.
and your views as well, Max - thats what we're here for.
Yes, he was trying to get Castro killed. Operation Mongoose.
Although I believe it's true that Joe Kennedy bought the presidency - JFK himself made the joke that he had told his dad not to buy one vote more than necessary in Cook County - it's also true that the womanizing JFK showed real courage under fire, both in the Navy and in the Cuban Missile Crisis (see Bobby Lime's comment for details). JFK illustrated in colorful detail that humans are not ever perfect! All heroes have feet of clay. It's part of the human condition. IWe are a confusing puzzle of degrees of virtue ... and its opposite.
I wasn't going to watch the video, but am glad I did. This is beyond sad. Haters are gonna hate. To do this to a family member is almost inhuman. I would like everyone to remember that it was Caroline and Uncle Teddy who passed the Kennedy mantle to Saint Barack and thereby, in a very significant way, unleashed the nightmare of the past 16 years upon us. She has absolutely no credibility.
Caroline is disgusted by cousin Bobby, but respects uncle Teddy who left a young woman to drown in order to save his political skin? She is a piece of work.
Democrats will celebrate Caroline. I could only stand so much of Caroline and didn't finish the video. She is the dangerous, uncaring, ignorant, arrogant human that populate the Democratic party. I think of Oregon's Jeff Merkley and Ron Wyden are cut from the same cloth of profound ignorance and have decades of uncaring about the dismal declining health of American children. To my knowledge there is not one Democrat on the federal or state level that deserves any respect, period.
I couldn't finish either.
Me neither.
That’s the point in history that destroyed her credibility with me. Endorsing Obama was catastrophic to the country.
I think there's a chance the current Democrat Party could go the way of the Whigs.
Just saw this. They are so desperate. Have you seen her son? 🙄🙈
No I have not seen her son. What am I missing?
He seems to have stopped maturing mentally at about fourteen.
Great Diagnosis. There's no pill for that; just a downward spiral.
He’s on TikTok. Not funny and very cringey.
He's hideous. Made a video mimicking Bobby Kennedy's voice
What an ugly, ugly soul
I’m afraid that ugly soul is being reflected on her face. Sort of a reverse Dorian Gray.
She's my age and she looks like hell. I guess inner beauty does shine (or not)
I noticed that, as well, but didn’t think it was politically correct for a guy to say it.
I’ll say it. She’s ugly inside and out! 🤮
She had a lot of grief in her younger years.
Oh please. so have a lot of people but they didn't have the spotlight on them from day one and gobs of money to do anything they want and now to disgrace herself with this kind of rhetoric. She is ugly in side and out. She should hide and never come out in public again. I am sure Mommy and Daddy would NOT approve. RIP
She and I are the same age. I have nowhere near the wrinkles she does, and I spend a lot of time in the sun. She's a hag.
I was struck by how much she's beginning to look like evil old Joe Kennedy.
I didn’t get that, but then I realized those round glasses complete the picture.
The good thing about the Left is how they eat one another.
And publicly virtue signal while they’re doing it!
I was surprised how angry her nasty remarks made me. I’ve never been interested in the family so didn’t pay attention until RFKJ interested me. It’s so - clearly a political hit job. Predator indeed - she is deliberately using a sexually charged word knowing some people won’t pursue information and assume “the family admits he’s a sexual predator.” Just inexcusable. Didn’t respect or disrespect her before since I wasn’t interested but now I feel she is unworthy of serious consideration.
A sexual predator? What about her father ?
He wouldn't be my choice, or even on the list. He has his marching orders and probably will follow through. After that, who knows, but I strongly suspect he'll be gone within a year or so, well before the midterm election cycle.
All her babble about Bobby couldn't have anything to do with her $7 Billion in Pharma, now could it?
If the Dems are against him, I’m for him!
Agree. She is exactly why RFK needs to be confirmed. Aside from the fact that she's as bad of a swamp creature as there exists, it takes a horrible person to dump on your own family member.
Exactly! Talking about the drug abuse and RFKJ pulling other cousins into it? When she is “honest” about own her father’s many personal issues, I’ll take note of the dumping on the cousins.
If they, ( Trump and RFK) , save the life of just one child it’s worth it.
Kudos to all of you that could watch that whole video of Caroline. It made me sick to watch her air her cousin's past mistakes for everyone to see. I couldn't finish it. Calling him a predator with no explanation was evil. Is 'Bobby' perfect? No. He may not even be a good man, and honestly, I'm not sure how many good men there are in politics. If he can break the back of Big Pharma, straighten out the FDA, and clean up our food, then he will have done a great deal of good for America. That's good enough for me. Caroline can go you-know-what herself. And for Pete's sake, ditch the ugly glasses. They make you look stupid. There, rant over.
“Not everyone in this country lives the kind of life she does” let me tell you all Biden appointed her ambassador here in Australia and she spent very little time her in the role. Just flew in occasionally. A waste of space who now lectures you all. Heaven help you all. Shameless to say RFK is unqualified by someone who has no qualifications to be ambassador.
Amr Australia
To be fair, there are actually no qualifications for anyone to be ambassador. It is a relic of the time before telecommunications and a sinecure for supporters of whoever is President. Great parties though which the taxpayers pay for.