Thanks, Sasha. You keep on keepin' on. If Tucker's talking to someone about something I'm not interested in, I skip it. If I'm listening to him and he wanders off some place I lose interest in, I move on. No big deal. On the other hand, he's done some brilliant interviews that are very much worth listening to. I appreciate your diligent effort to bring this feature to us.
They are terrified of Tucker Carlson because he too close to the truth and he isn’t afraid to point out the lies the MSM and the DC Swamp which is an direct attack on their power which can never be tolerated. Just look at what FOX did to Tucker out of the Blue. Murdoch’s got a phone call and they complied.
I admire Tucker and certainly do follow him but it truly is horrible what he says about the rot and insanity in our nation. And what does this say about human nature? If the American experiment with all its advantages can so easily collapse into insanity and self destruct then what does this say about where the human experiment will also end up?
“Tucker Carlson - Mike Pompeo is a Criminal.” (7 min)
I’m 58 and long for the days when we could sit around a table for hours and have deep conversations with friends who didn’t always agree with us. When did this become verboten? We relished having friends of many different belief and political systems. Those days are over. And I didn’t end those relationships. I still value their thoughts and respect their right to voice them. They, however, don’t reciprocate. How do we even approach this chasm?
If I had to date it I’d go with Trump’s election in 2016 and the democrats starting their “Resistance” committed to destroying the Trump presidency and demonizing his supporters. Shortly after Trump was elected in 2016 and the democrat’s “Resistance!” began I told a Mexican friend at work in Chicago, a Trump supporter who’s from Guerrero, one of Mexico’s poorest and most dangerous states, that the inability to transition to a new government after an election is a classic sign of a failed state.
He actually shuddered as if a cold chill had just run down his spine. It was just so spontaneous as if he immediately understood the consequences of this. I never forgot his reaction to what I said. And we are far more polarized now than we even were then. Many say AI is “scary” as if the present direction we’re heading isn’t scary. At least we do have a good chance of things working out well with AI. I see no chance of that happening with the democrats.
“It’s Getting a Little Civil War-y” Megyn Kelly on the Border Battle With Biden Admin Growing. (1 min)
Seva-- I think it was happening before Trump, even before Obama. The Bush V Gore debacle was my first real view of Red State/Blue State animosity, and that has just snowballed!
True but after Trump was elected the animosity was on steroids and after St George Floyd died of a heart attack and fentanyl overdose the demonization of “Whiteness!” also took off and shredded our social fabric and now the “migrant crisis” is on top of that and is totally destroying the idea of commonality in America and without that there’s no cohesion which is why our society is so rapidly unraveling and becoming ever more ungovernable.
I'm a Christian. I think what we see from the Left is religious in nature, a comprehensive, massive misunderstanding of reality, of course, but one which has its telos, if that's the right term, in, I might as well say it, Nietzsche's idea of the transvaluation of all values.
What he meant, of course, was the overthrow of the Judaeo - Christian understanding of life.
“a comprehensive, massive misunderstanding of reality”
Some excerpts below from a Quillette review of a book about the irrational side of human nature. The last one says: “One comes away with the sense that civilization operates on narrow margins and is always on the verge of collapsing into irrationality.” That sure is the truth. Are we in a “Dark Age” where reason is in retreat? Certainly does seem so.
“Mackay makes the case, often in gory detail, that episodes of collective mania seem to be an inevitable consequence of human nature. Humans in every time and place have cast aside their better judgment and allowed themselves to be caught up in all manner of irrational hoopla.“
“His chapters on the Swabian Peasants’ War and Anabaptist uprisings are terrifying depictions of the end-times frenzy that wreaked havoc on northern Europe throughout the 16th and 17th centuries. The distance between these events in the German-speaking world and, say, the Reign of Terror in France or the Chinese Cultural Revolution is not that great. And the speed with which apparently reasonable people moved from the embrace of a new theological idea to a willingness to torture those whose own theological ideas diverged even slightly is startling.“
“There is plenty to recommend about The Delusions of Crowds. It is laden with great anecdotes and the writing is always engaging. One comes away with the sense that civilization operates on narrow margins and is always on the verge of collapsing into irrationality.”
I'd like to read the review and the book, but the review is paywalled. The book, however, is one which I've been aware of for many years. I always loved the title. I'll probably buy the book because of your enthusiasm for it.
Hitler told people in private that crowds were, because of their mass, like a woman, passive and receptive. Are you aware of the flap which is going on in Evangelical circles because of "the entertainment" at some sort of Promise Keepers - like event for Christian men recently?
The guy who organized it hired some Las Vegas freak, a man, who is a pole dancer, and get this, a sword swallower. You can probably find video of this on YouTube. It is fascinating to watch.
Snickers about sword swallowers exist for a reason.
The video shows this guy twirling around the pole and, I guess, making a tentative attempt, or a pseudo one, to begin to climb it. Then, it looks as though he contemplates the sword for a moment, after which, so help me, he gives the tip a salacious lick.
How something like this happens at a Christian men's gathering is that the organizer is probably a closeted gay who wants someone to act out on his behalf. What is shocking is that out of hundreds of men there, only one, Mark Driscoll, who is a pastor of some eminence, shouted an objection. He was kicked out, and now, there are pressures for him to repent for what he did.
It sounds like your friend from Guerrero shuddered in immediate recognition of what it is like to live in a country shot through with deeply entrenched corruption and kleptocracy. Our Democratic Party, my former party, appears to want to establish itself as the functional equivalent of Mexico's PRI. Which held single party rule over that nation for most of the 20th Century. Those initials stand for Partido Revolucionario Institucional. In English that translates to the Institutional Revolution Party. The best revolution is a perpetually administered one. What can go wrong with that?
I’m retired but worked (CNC machinery) for many years with mostly immigrants from all over the world. Vietnam, Mexico, Assyrians from Iraq, Jews from the Soviet Union, Indian Muslims from Gujarat and many other places. Excellent people with traditional values. I often asked them about their former countries and they would tell me stories of their lives. Quite fascinating although often quite horrifying. Here’s one of my “favorites” (in the sense of “My God! That is awful!”):
I had an Assyrian friend from Iraq at work in Chicago who once told me of an honor killing in his town near Baghdad when he was a boy. He was about 60 and had been here for 40 years. He said there was a family living a block away where the daughter was having an affair with a neighbor boy. Both families were Muslim. The girl had an older brother who was a butcher. When this older brother found out about his sister's affair he grabbed her by the hair and dragged her out of the house into the street.
The neighbors heard her screaming and when they went outside to see what was happening they saw the brother using a butcher knife to cut his sister's throat. When she was dead he dipped both hands in her blood, went to her boyfriend's house and smeared her blood all over their front door.
I asked my friend what the police did about this. He said the police considered it a family matter so they didn't get involved. No denying our fallen world is a deadly place but it is our world and all we’ve got so we just have to work to make it better. Hope springs eternal.
HR and the schools killed it. Their idea was you never ever talked about anything that might upset someone. So you can’t really have diverse ideas or really get to know someone. I give Sonnie Johnson credit for this. Her show on Saturday was excellent
I completely disagree with you on evolution. And I completely support you having and expressing your view on evolution. We need to be able to disagree without being disagreeable. Whenever I see that it gives me hope.
On evolution - it supports a belief system, it is not supported by scientific analysis. Evolution or change can be seen within a species, but has never been found from one species to an "evolved" species. My opinion is that evolution is a belief system that allowed removing God from the equation. That is, that there is a supreme being that ultimately has created all the wonders in nature. If you put a theory in that removes us being under God, then all manner of chaos comes forth. Including losing our inalienable rights, having an underlying moral code, and fearing the judgment of God more than the judgment of man.
I appreciate your open mind and continuing to seek truth.
I am a retired minister, I believe in evolution, and I have never let God go away from my belief system. I believe that God can be involved in all human activity and in all development even evolution. I do not now nor did I ever literally believe in the Adam and Eve story. As a christian, I did not leave my logical sense at the door. I do not in any way think people who have their own belief system should change to mine, but I think you need to be careful when you say the people who believe in evolution have left God out of it. There are many many ways to understand how we got here. And God only knows the truth, we don't
Before you get tied up in questions regarding evolution, come to grips with creation and origin considerations, remembering that "nothing comes from nothing." Equally foundational, has God spoken through Holy Scripture or not? If not, then we may all just as well go our own way. Moe, Larry and Curly are equally worthy of our time...
United Church of Christ -started out as Congregational - you know Pilgrims and white steeples in New England- then all of the various Congregational churches combined to form the UCC in 1964- the denomination is pretty liberal theologically but because it is Congrational - each church can be either very liberal - traditional - or rarely. conservative depending on the parishioners we have no bishops nor are we sent to churches like the Methodists so we have to apply just like real world - - Unitarians came out of the Congregational church -we were tthe first to ordain a woman in the 1800s
now there are many gay ministers and many women - I was in seminary in the 1980s and in every churchI was the first woman so an interesting time for many of us - we of course got the small churches and less money then the men but figured jesus only had one robe and pair of shoes, so we were not there to get rich but - Joel Osteen is rich - and npw Doug wilson whom i had never heard of until he was on Tucker, is no doubt a multi-millionaire - I dont think that is a good look but to each his own - That's it - oh yes this was a second careeer for me - before that it was NYC - but i still always went to church - to sing in the choir -
In your first comment you state: "I do not now nor did I ever literally believe in the Adam and Eve story. As a christian, I did not leave my logical sense at the door."
So in other words you believe the Bible is subjective and not the inerrant Word of the Living God?
This is not the place to get into a theological debate about my views on the Bible. I leave people to have their own beliefs without judging them hoping they don't jiudge me for mine.
Whether it was god or evolution, they blew it when they created us. So, I can’t quite understand why various factions are all eager to give credit to their choice of creators.
I am happy for you that you have your faith, Libertarian. I'm sure it must be very comforting to believe as you do. I have never had that kind of faith in anything, let alone religion. I do have faith in the potential of individuals but not in humanity as a whole. As for what comes after death I have no conceptions and no concerns about it. My hope for existence comes mostly from the mysterious uncertainties of the universe and consciousness, rather than from any sense of certainty about what it is all about. None of that bothers me, but human beings and their group behaviors bother me very much.
I have thought many times that God must be wondering why the heck frogs and lions et al were the only ones allowed on the ark and not Noah - things started to go wrong as soon as they hit dry land - but here we are -
And who’s to say God didn’t start mans evolution. And who’s to say what a day is to God. But without a belief in something greater we are just animals.
I am still stuck on the logical or science non-explanation that before the universe existed there was absolute nothingness and from this absolute nothingness sprung forth the universe; 99% of which was created in the first 90 seconds. At least in the Bible it took 7 days! 😂
From my perspective, the science is in fact getting closer to understanding the origins of our particular universe, but you are right, the speculation about the point before the Big Bang only increases the mystery rather than explaining it. Where did the one point come from that exploded and why did it do that? The speculation that our universe is just one of many makes a lot of sense to me in the sense that it is just another thing that comes into being, flourishes and grows, then declines and dies. But that does not explain at all where it came from and where it goes.
Quantum physics indicates that the universe is a simulation or, as the mystics and eastern religions say, a dream in the mind of God which means that it still is absolute nothingness, and didn’t just suddenly spring from this state and become “solid” and “real.”
“We feel ourselves to be outsiders, uprooted, in exile here below. We are like Ulysses who had been carried away during his sleep by sailors and woke in a strange land, longing for Ithaca with a longing that rent his soul. Suddenly Athena opened his eyes and he saw that he was in Ithaca. In the same way every man who longs indefatigably for his country, who is distracted from his desire neither by Calypso nor by the Sirens, will one day suddenly find that he is there.” Simone Weil, French mystic. 1909 - 1943
“Deep down inside of everything around us we found a universe completely unlike our own. To paraphrase one of the founders of quantum mechanics, everything we call real is made up of things that in themselves cannot be regarded as real.” (Start to 1 min point in video)
Einstein’s Quantum Physics That Proved Him Wrong.” (59 min)
The Secrets of Quantum Physics. Spark. Mar 20, 2018
Absolutely- we don’t all have to agree on anything or everything. It’s only when the authoritarians in charge see the need to censor dissenting speech & ideas that we run into trouble. It was interesting on the topic of evolution, Tucker said after all these years it’s still a theory. I’ve sat through & listened to a few very good speakers on Creationism vs evolution. Worth the time to listen & absorb the discussion.
Having been a good democrat I believed everything they’ve put in front of us for years—club of Rome good, UN good, who good; what a great thing if we could all just get along, as Rodney King said so many years ago. Working in western medicine for 40 years, I was able to see through the “c” dilemma easily, which opened my eyes to so much more. At the moment, I’m going with the alien theory, as who else but aliens and sociopaths could go along with such a plan as being played out here.
The evidence for evolution is overwhelming, that you can't see it as part of God's plan is the defect in your eye. There is no incompatibility between evolution and the idea that Man is created in God's image and has a special place in nature.
The people who push the idea of incompatibility have a fundamental misunderstanding of God and/or evolution and have other agendas to serve (and like you correctly point out, we are seeing the detrimental effects of that today).
Please do yourself a favor and watch the video Sasha embedded from Tucker, "Millions Love Trump," about a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania in November 2016. I still get choked up. Not over Trump, but over the country, and what greedy wicked people have done to it, and at great speed. Think about the DOJ.
It's obvious now there has been a long-term plan to saddle Americans with one party rule. Many believe we are already there, and no Republican will ever again win a national election. Some of the Left are literally communists of the Stalinist variety, and they don't play nice at all. It was all working swimmingly until 2016. Since then, they've acted irrationally and dangerously to make up for time lost during Trump's "accidental" term.
Our system only works with people who at least pretend to be nice most of the time, as they wouldn't want to be shamed by the media. We're discovering what happens when one side doesn't have to worry about the media.
I wouldn't call what the Left feels about Tucker "fascination"...I'd call it "obsession!" And I think you nailed the reason why the Left is obsessed with Tucker. He's not afraid of them and he's not afraid to go after them, and that's something they can't tolerate. If we're not afraid of them, they can't control us.
The left can’t tolerate dissent or alternative opinions about anything. It’s the same thing with Carlson as with Musk. Or Trump or De Santis or anyone not validating the approved DNC narrative. The people who invented the term hate speech ironically are filled with hate and it’s constantly pouring out. It’s why I left their cult. Get out some popcorn and enjoy the show of their heads exploding and the uncontrolled hyper-emotional triggering at anyone expressing a differing opinion on pretty much everything.
The discussion Rogan & Tucker had re Alex Jones was so interesting. They ran a 2017 Rogan / Alex Jones piece where Jones -in 2017- talks about AI causing problems. He’s also on video in July 2001 predicting 9/11 attack. I’m not saying he’s right on all he says (Sandyhook a big one) and they also address that.
They are not after Tucker because he is a skeptic of evolutionary theory, they are after him because he speaks candidly about the role of the Deep State in American politics. The evo stuff is just click bait to incite the mob.
Well it didn't quite go that way, per the story of evolution that I know. A lot of it is just asking questions not answering them. But in general it would not be evolved from gorillas. It would be gorillas and humans had a common ancestor way back when. Evolution is really tedious and really slow. Here is an example. Let's say midgets - or little people - had an extraordinary ability to survive, say, climate change. And when whatever tragedies hit they managed to survive it over hundreds, thousands of years. They would dominate the planet. The more babies they had that survived would carry on and eventually they would speciate and become a whole different species from other humans.
Basically, when the hominid - or human - migrated out of Africa, they went to various places, and two different species of humans were formed - the Neanderthals (of which I am 4%) and the Dinisovans. Then other humans evolved in Africa and migrated out and ultimately either killed off or enslaved or mated with the other - Neanderthals and Dinisovans. The product of that mixed DNA created modern Europeans (Neanderthals) and Asians (Dinisovans). Then there are still the lines that go directly back to Africa and aren't part of either of the new species of human.
At any rate, it's kind of fun to study it. But so far, I think Tucker is right in that no one really knows for sure anything. We just draw conclusions based on evidence and theories...
Btw; on average the races with the most Neanderthal DNA also have the highest average IQs. Asians then Whites then Blacks is the order for both highest average IQs and highest average Neanderthal DNA. Follow the science.
Since we mated with them they were different races rather than different species. I recently read we coexisted with Neanderthals for something like 10,000 years in Europe. There were slight genetic differences between us and the Neanderthals though which apparently made the difference in which group survived.
Some of Darwin theory's are dead wrong , like it can take a 100 years for evolution to happen, the birds that he used as a example changed rapidly in less then 2-3 generations not 100 years this has been proven ! So back to Science to brew yet another theory , or branch off on yet another idea . The problem with Science is when you think a theory is fact , that idea doesn't exists in Science i.e. every idea from Science is a theory till proven wrong or a new theory becomes more popular in Science or put into teaching books ! Why don't people see this as fact. Ideas from Science are theory . I'm Not attacking Science just spelling out what Science is ! So there is room in Science for disproving , and new Science , if there wasn't then it wouldn't be Science any more but maybe something called wokeism ?
Tucker is right we don't know it all , and maybe we don't much at all ? If we can't admit this then we will be lost ! And thus things like our first amendments should be taken away and they can lock us all up. The more we understand the more we can realize there is so much more that we don't understand ! Science should just give us more questions , not answers .
So there is room for Religion with in Science , not part of Science , but with !
He's hated because he is a vociferous critic of the military industrial complex. Just like Glenn Greenwald. That complex has massive influence and money behind it.
I respect Bari and Ben a LOT less than Tucker or Glenn. Bari is a snake imo for her smearing of Tucker and for calling Tulsi an Assad toadie. Ben just comes off as dishonest for the Candace situation. He really expects me to believe it had nothing to do with Israel?
I like you don’t agree with everything Tucker says but I learn a lot from his interviews. We need to hear all points of view then come to our own conclusions. I prefer listening to someone who doesn’t have to “tow the party line “.
I love your Tucker links. Tucker was lucky to have been removed from Fox. Now he is really a journalist, asking questions that the captured corporate media wont touch. We all benefit from that.
I watched the entire 3 hour JRE last night with my wife. It was at times fascinating and scary, but I was truly impressed with Tucker. He's speaking what he believes to be the truth. Contrast that with Joe Scarborough who I used to watch 2-3 hours a day prior to 2017.
That JRE episode was, imho, the best I've seen. If I had to bet my house, I'd say evolution is the correct theory, but there are a lot of holes in it that have never been proven. It's not 'settled science', but that's not something you say out loud.
Evolution is a universal “emergence phenomena” of complexity emerging from simplicity which is also driving the exponential growth of AI. Since God made the universe with this feature in it then it can be said that God is doing evolution and also AI which is evolution on steroids.
It's pretty clear that JFK was assassinated by a conspiracy, and I'm guessing it was a CIA job since they won't open the records. The Nixon thing was new, but makes sense when you consider that Howard Hunt pulled off an even bigger surveillance of the Goldwater campaign in '64, so the CIA has been fucking with elections, both home and abroad, for decades.
Loved the Alex Jones discussion too. It was a really, really good show from two people with no agenda but the truth.
I didn't agree with Tucker's views on Bari and was glad that Joe had her back.
There maybe some truth to what Tucker said about Bari Weiss. Her Free Press has been running hit pieces on Tucker as well. They refuse to talk to him. It’s just one dig after another it’s like they only view Tucker via an MSNBC lens filter.
Hmmmm, I've subscribed to The Free Press since they started, and I guess I don't recall that, but maybe I wasn't paying attention.
I still have incredible respect for Bari and Nellie and how they've built a far better media form than most. They're still pretty liberal, but so are all of my other SSs and Rumble subscriptions. I'm pretty sure that none of the people I subscribe to have ever voted for the same President as me, but right now, Freedom of Speech, election integrity and reining in our alphabet agencies are the most important issues in our country and Matt, Glenn, Sasha, Jenny, Bari and Nellie are all on my side of those issues.
I agree with that. And, I follow Taibbi and Greenwald (was a founding member of his substack) even though I don't agree with many things they say. Indeed, it's because I follow them (and read their books) that I've seen their evolution in many areas. Example: Greenwald was a Bolsonaro hater and, in many ways, was more responsible than anyone else for getting Lula eligible and elected. Now, he's seeing what that means, and it's changing him ever so slightly but perceptibly.
So, I agree: I don't want to be in an echo chamber. I tried to follow Bari Weiss, too, but found her to be someone who always wants to split the baby. Different strokes for different folks. Cheers!
I'm no fan of Bari Weiss. Just because she got kicked out of the NYT does not, ergo, make her a clear thinker. She's a bit like Matt Taibi and Glenn Greenwald: They both have these massive blindspots from spending so many years on the left.
For example, if they ever have anything positive to say about Trump or one of his policies, they first have to genuflect, saying something like "I'm certainly no fan of Trump but . . ." or "Donald Trump has massive flaws but . . . ."
Also, they don't see the media as far more biased against conservatives. They'll claim that it's equally biased against those on the left and right who are one-standard deviation (or more) away from consensus. Both Taibbi and Greenwald are starting to wake up to the fact that this is just not true, but they're not all the way there yet. I don't know about Weiss.
Bari, Matt and Glenn all risked their careers and reputation to follow their moral compass.
I don't expect everyone to appreciate Trump, or any of my other political views, but I believe they're on the right sides of the most important issues facing the country.
Evolution and belief in a creator God are not incompatible. Just as big bang theory and science in general, and belief in a creator God, are not incompatible.
Thanks, Sasha. You keep on keepin' on. If Tucker's talking to someone about something I'm not interested in, I skip it. If I'm listening to him and he wanders off some place I lose interest in, I move on. No big deal. On the other hand, he's done some brilliant interviews that are very much worth listening to. I appreciate your diligent effort to bring this feature to us.
Thank you!
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They are terrified of Tucker Carlson because he too close to the truth and he isn’t afraid to point out the lies the MSM and the DC Swamp which is an direct attack on their power which can never be tolerated. Just look at what FOX did to Tucker out of the Blue. Murdoch’s got a phone call and they complied.
I admire Tucker and certainly do follow him but it truly is horrible what he says about the rot and insanity in our nation. And what does this say about human nature? If the American experiment with all its advantages can so easily collapse into insanity and self destruct then what does this say about where the human experiment will also end up?
“Tucker Carlson - Mike Pompeo is a Criminal.” (7 min)
Liberty Vault. Apr 21, 2024
https://youtu.be/HxB1CcXiLY0?si=AEtDr5NzJoL6trPp
This bit is why they fear him. He is willing to state facts that the swamp does not want known.
Read the Bible and see great civ
I’m 58 and long for the days when we could sit around a table for hours and have deep conversations with friends who didn’t always agree with us. When did this become verboten? We relished having friends of many different belief and political systems. Those days are over. And I didn’t end those relationships. I still value their thoughts and respect their right to voice them. They, however, don’t reciprocate. How do we even approach this chasm?
“When did this become verboten?”
If I had to date it I’d go with Trump’s election in 2016 and the democrats starting their “Resistance” committed to destroying the Trump presidency and demonizing his supporters. Shortly after Trump was elected in 2016 and the democrat’s “Resistance!” began I told a Mexican friend at work in Chicago, a Trump supporter who’s from Guerrero, one of Mexico’s poorest and most dangerous states, that the inability to transition to a new government after an election is a classic sign of a failed state.
He actually shuddered as if a cold chill had just run down his spine. It was just so spontaneous as if he immediately understood the consequences of this. I never forgot his reaction to what I said. And we are far more polarized now than we even were then. Many say AI is “scary” as if the present direction we’re heading isn’t scary. At least we do have a good chance of things working out well with AI. I see no chance of that happening with the democrats.
“It’s Getting a Little Civil War-y” Megyn Kelly on the Border Battle With Biden Admin Growing. (1 min)
Megyn Kelly. Mar 25, 2024
https://youtube.com/shorts/rJRQMF532xo?si=CS1-4DKpkcaxzokm
Seva-- I think it was happening before Trump, even before Obama. The Bush V Gore debacle was my first real view of Red State/Blue State animosity, and that has just snowballed!
True but after Trump was elected the animosity was on steroids and after St George Floyd died of a heart attack and fentanyl overdose the demonization of “Whiteness!” also took off and shredded our social fabric and now the “migrant crisis” is on top of that and is totally destroying the idea of commonality in America and without that there’s no cohesion which is why our society is so rapidly unraveling and becoming ever more ungovernable.
I'm a Christian. I think what we see from the Left is religious in nature, a comprehensive, massive misunderstanding of reality, of course, but one which has its telos, if that's the right term, in, I might as well say it, Nietzsche's idea of the transvaluation of all values.
What he meant, of course, was the overthrow of the Judaeo - Christian understanding of life.
“a comprehensive, massive misunderstanding of reality”
Some excerpts below from a Quillette review of a book about the irrational side of human nature. The last one says: “One comes away with the sense that civilization operates on narrow margins and is always on the verge of collapsing into irrationality.” That sure is the truth. Are we in a “Dark Age” where reason is in retreat? Certainly does seem so.
“Mackay makes the case, often in gory detail, that episodes of collective mania seem to be an inevitable consequence of human nature. Humans in every time and place have cast aside their better judgment and allowed themselves to be caught up in all manner of irrational hoopla.“
“His chapters on the Swabian Peasants’ War and Anabaptist uprisings are terrifying depictions of the end-times frenzy that wreaked havoc on northern Europe throughout the 16th and 17th centuries. The distance between these events in the German-speaking world and, say, the Reign of Terror in France or the Chinese Cultural Revolution is not that great. And the speed with which apparently reasonable people moved from the embrace of a new theological idea to a willingness to torture those whose own theological ideas diverged even slightly is startling.“
“There is plenty to recommend about The Delusions of Crowds. It is laden with great anecdotes and the writing is always engaging. One comes away with the sense that civilization operates on narrow margins and is always on the verge of collapsing into irrationality.”
“The Delusions of Crowds-A Review.”
Quillette. Feb 8, 2021
https://quillette.com/2021/02/08/the-delusions-of-crowds-a-review/
I'd like to read the review and the book, but the review is paywalled. The book, however, is one which I've been aware of for many years. I always loved the title. I'll probably buy the book because of your enthusiasm for it.
Hitler told people in private that crowds were, because of their mass, like a woman, passive and receptive. Are you aware of the flap which is going on in Evangelical circles because of "the entertainment" at some sort of Promise Keepers - like event for Christian men recently?
The guy who organized it hired some Las Vegas freak, a man, who is a pole dancer, and get this, a sword swallower. You can probably find video of this on YouTube. It is fascinating to watch.
Snickers about sword swallowers exist for a reason.
The video shows this guy twirling around the pole and, I guess, making a tentative attempt, or a pseudo one, to begin to climb it. Then, it looks as though he contemplates the sword for a moment, after which, so help me, he gives the tip a salacious lick.
How something like this happens at a Christian men's gathering is that the organizer is probably a closeted gay who wants someone to act out on his behalf. What is shocking is that out of hundreds of men there, only one, Mark Driscoll, who is a pastor of some eminence, shouted an objection. He was kicked out, and now, there are pressures for him to repent for what he did.
It sounds like your friend from Guerrero shuddered in immediate recognition of what it is like to live in a country shot through with deeply entrenched corruption and kleptocracy. Our Democratic Party, my former party, appears to want to establish itself as the functional equivalent of Mexico's PRI. Which held single party rule over that nation for most of the 20th Century. Those initials stand for Partido Revolucionario Institucional. In English that translates to the Institutional Revolution Party. The best revolution is a perpetually administered one. What can go wrong with that?
I’m retired but worked (CNC machinery) for many years with mostly immigrants from all over the world. Vietnam, Mexico, Assyrians from Iraq, Jews from the Soviet Union, Indian Muslims from Gujarat and many other places. Excellent people with traditional values. I often asked them about their former countries and they would tell me stories of their lives. Quite fascinating although often quite horrifying. Here’s one of my “favorites” (in the sense of “My God! That is awful!”):
I had an Assyrian friend from Iraq at work in Chicago who once told me of an honor killing in his town near Baghdad when he was a boy. He was about 60 and had been here for 40 years. He said there was a family living a block away where the daughter was having an affair with a neighbor boy. Both families were Muslim. The girl had an older brother who was a butcher. When this older brother found out about his sister's affair he grabbed her by the hair and dragged her out of the house into the street.
The neighbors heard her screaming and when they went outside to see what was happening they saw the brother using a butcher knife to cut his sister's throat. When she was dead he dipped both hands in her blood, went to her boyfriend's house and smeared her blood all over their front door.
I asked my friend what the police did about this. He said the police considered it a family matter so they didn't get involved. No denying our fallen world is a deadly place but it is our world and all we’ve got so we just have to work to make it better. Hope springs eternal.
HR and the schools killed it. Their idea was you never ever talked about anything that might upset someone. So you can’t really have diverse ideas or really get to know someone. I give Sonnie Johnson credit for this. Her show on Saturday was excellent
I completely disagree with you on evolution. And I completely support you having and expressing your view on evolution. We need to be able to disagree without being disagreeable. Whenever I see that it gives me hope.
On evolution - it supports a belief system, it is not supported by scientific analysis. Evolution or change can be seen within a species, but has never been found from one species to an "evolved" species. My opinion is that evolution is a belief system that allowed removing God from the equation. That is, that there is a supreme being that ultimately has created all the wonders in nature. If you put a theory in that removes us being under God, then all manner of chaos comes forth. Including losing our inalienable rights, having an underlying moral code, and fearing the judgment of God more than the judgment of man.
I appreciate your open mind and continuing to seek truth.
Tom Bartel you are correct: The American culture has fallen because the political class does not fear God.
I am a retired minister, I believe in evolution, and I have never let God go away from my belief system. I believe that God can be involved in all human activity and in all development even evolution. I do not now nor did I ever literally believe in the Adam and Eve story. As a christian, I did not leave my logical sense at the door. I do not in any way think people who have their own belief system should change to mine, but I think you need to be careful when you say the people who believe in evolution have left God out of it. There are many many ways to understand how we got here. And God only knows the truth, we don't
Before you get tied up in questions regarding evolution, come to grips with creation and origin considerations, remembering that "nothing comes from nothing." Equally foundational, has God spoken through Holy Scripture or not? If not, then we may all just as well go our own way. Moe, Larry and Curly are equally worthy of our time...
Exactly what kind of a "retired minister" are you Dorothy Slater? Enlighten us please?
United Church of Christ -started out as Congregational - you know Pilgrims and white steeples in New England- then all of the various Congregational churches combined to form the UCC in 1964- the denomination is pretty liberal theologically but because it is Congrational - each church can be either very liberal - traditional - or rarely. conservative depending on the parishioners we have no bishops nor are we sent to churches like the Methodists so we have to apply just like real world - - Unitarians came out of the Congregational church -we were tthe first to ordain a woman in the 1800s
now there are many gay ministers and many women - I was in seminary in the 1980s and in every churchI was the first woman so an interesting time for many of us - we of course got the small churches and less money then the men but figured jesus only had one robe and pair of shoes, so we were not there to get rich but - Joel Osteen is rich - and npw Doug wilson whom i had never heard of until he was on Tucker, is no doubt a multi-millionaire - I dont think that is a good look but to each his own - That's it - oh yes this was a second careeer for me - before that it was NYC - but i still always went to church - to sing in the choir -
In your first comment you state: "I do not now nor did I ever literally believe in the Adam and Eve story. As a christian, I did not leave my logical sense at the door."
So in other words you believe the Bible is subjective and not the inerrant Word of the Living God?
This is not the place to get into a theological debate about my views on the Bible. I leave people to have their own beliefs without judging them hoping they don't jiudge me for mine.
Rubbish.
Whether it was god or evolution, they blew it when they created us. So, I can’t quite understand why various factions are all eager to give credit to their choice of creators.
I think humans are awesome and my evidence is the author and numerous commentators here. Btw, Heaven exists, so hedge accordingly.
I am happy for you that you have your faith, Libertarian. I'm sure it must be very comforting to believe as you do. I have never had that kind of faith in anything, let alone religion. I do have faith in the potential of individuals but not in humanity as a whole. As for what comes after death I have no conceptions and no concerns about it. My hope for existence comes mostly from the mysterious uncertainties of the universe and consciousness, rather than from any sense of certainty about what it is all about. None of that bothers me, but human beings and their group behaviors bother me very much.
Pasqual's wager. The problem is that if God is omniscient, he will see through Pasqual.
I have thought many times that God must be wondering why the heck frogs and lions et al were the only ones allowed on the ark and not Noah - things started to go wrong as soon as they hit dry land - but here we are -
I have always loved frogs.
YES!!!
And who’s to say God didn’t start mans evolution. And who’s to say what a day is to God. But without a belief in something greater we are just animals.
I am still stuck on the logical or science non-explanation that before the universe existed there was absolute nothingness and from this absolute nothingness sprung forth the universe; 99% of which was created in the first 90 seconds. At least in the Bible it took 7 days! 😂
There was nothing and then it exploded. Makes perfect sense.
From my perspective, the science is in fact getting closer to understanding the origins of our particular universe, but you are right, the speculation about the point before the Big Bang only increases the mystery rather than explaining it. Where did the one point come from that exploded and why did it do that? The speculation that our universe is just one of many makes a lot of sense to me in the sense that it is just another thing that comes into being, flourishes and grows, then declines and dies. But that does not explain at all where it came from and where it goes.
Quantum physics indicates that the universe is a simulation or, as the mystics and eastern religions say, a dream in the mind of God which means that it still is absolute nothingness, and didn’t just suddenly spring from this state and become “solid” and “real.”
“We feel ourselves to be outsiders, uprooted, in exile here below. We are like Ulysses who had been carried away during his sleep by sailors and woke in a strange land, longing for Ithaca with a longing that rent his soul. Suddenly Athena opened his eyes and he saw that he was in Ithaca. In the same way every man who longs indefatigably for his country, who is distracted from his desire neither by Calypso nor by the Sirens, will one day suddenly find that he is there.” Simone Weil, French mystic. 1909 - 1943
“Deep down inside of everything around us we found a universe completely unlike our own. To paraphrase one of the founders of quantum mechanics, everything we call real is made up of things that in themselves cannot be regarded as real.” (Start to 1 min point in video)
Einstein’s Quantum Physics That Proved Him Wrong.” (59 min)
The Secrets of Quantum Physics. Spark. Mar 20, 2018
https://youtu.be/ISdBAf-ysI0?si=FoHvjujytMzwquEB
Absolutely- we don’t all have to agree on anything or everything. It’s only when the authoritarians in charge see the need to censor dissenting speech & ideas that we run into trouble. It was interesting on the topic of evolution, Tucker said after all these years it’s still a theory. I’ve sat through & listened to a few very good speakers on Creationism vs evolution. Worth the time to listen & absorb the discussion.
Having been a good democrat I believed everything they’ve put in front of us for years—club of Rome good, UN good, who good; what a great thing if we could all just get along, as Rodney King said so many years ago. Working in western medicine for 40 years, I was able to see through the “c” dilemma easily, which opened my eyes to so much more. At the moment, I’m going with the alien theory, as who else but aliens and sociopaths could go along with such a plan as being played out here.
Beautiful response. I totally agree, but my response below was inadequate to yours. Thank you. 🙏
The evidence for evolution is overwhelming, that you can't see it as part of God's plan is the defect in your eye. There is no incompatibility between evolution and the idea that Man is created in God's image and has a special place in nature.
The people who push the idea of incompatibility have a fundamental misunderstanding of God and/or evolution and have other agendas to serve (and like you correctly point out, we are seeing the detrimental effects of that today).
Please do yourself a favor and watch the video Sasha embedded from Tucker, "Millions Love Trump," about a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania in November 2016. I still get choked up. Not over Trump, but over the country, and what greedy wicked people have done to it, and at great speed. Think about the DOJ.
It's obvious now there has been a long-term plan to saddle Americans with one party rule. Many believe we are already there, and no Republican will ever again win a national election. Some of the Left are literally communists of the Stalinist variety, and they don't play nice at all. It was all working swimmingly until 2016. Since then, they've acted irrationally and dangerously to make up for time lost during Trump's "accidental" term.
Our system only works with people who at least pretend to be nice most of the time, as they wouldn't want to be shamed by the media. We're discovering what happens when one side doesn't have to worry about the media.
"God Bless us one and all." -Tiny Tim
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I wouldn't call what the Left feels about Tucker "fascination"...I'd call it "obsession!" And I think you nailed the reason why the Left is obsessed with Tucker. He's not afraid of them and he's not afraid to go after them, and that's something they can't tolerate. If we're not afraid of them, they can't control us.
The left can’t tolerate dissent or alternative opinions about anything. It’s the same thing with Carlson as with Musk. Or Trump or De Santis or anyone not validating the approved DNC narrative. The people who invented the term hate speech ironically are filled with hate and it’s constantly pouring out. It’s why I left their cult. Get out some popcorn and enjoy the show of their heads exploding and the uncontrolled hyper-emotional triggering at anyone expressing a differing opinion on pretty much everything.
The discussion Rogan & Tucker had re Alex Jones was so interesting. They ran a 2017 Rogan / Alex Jones piece where Jones -in 2017- talks about AI causing problems. He’s also on video in July 2001 predicting 9/11 attack. I’m not saying he’s right on all he says (Sandyhook a big one) and they also address that.
They just don't like that he gets unapproved ideas out there. They want control of the Overton Window.
https://drp314.substack.com/p/the-overton-window
They are not after Tucker because he is a skeptic of evolutionary theory, they are after him because he speaks candidly about the role of the Deep State in American politics. The evo stuff is just click bait to incite the mob.
Well said Pacificus.
So if humans evolved from what, gorillas than why do gorillas still exist.
They should all be bright eyed bushy tail humans by now.
Anyway I agree with you Sasha, let’s believe in what we think got us here as long
as we don’t force each other’s opinions on one another.
Well it didn't quite go that way, per the story of evolution that I know. A lot of it is just asking questions not answering them. But in general it would not be evolved from gorillas. It would be gorillas and humans had a common ancestor way back when. Evolution is really tedious and really slow. Here is an example. Let's say midgets - or little people - had an extraordinary ability to survive, say, climate change. And when whatever tragedies hit they managed to survive it over hundreds, thousands of years. They would dominate the planet. The more babies they had that survived would carry on and eventually they would speciate and become a whole different species from other humans.
Basically, when the hominid - or human - migrated out of Africa, they went to various places, and two different species of humans were formed - the Neanderthals (of which I am 4%) and the Dinisovans. Then other humans evolved in Africa and migrated out and ultimately either killed off or enslaved or mated with the other - Neanderthals and Dinisovans. The product of that mixed DNA created modern Europeans (Neanderthals) and Asians (Dinisovans). Then there are still the lines that go directly back to Africa and aren't part of either of the new species of human.
At any rate, it's kind of fun to study it. But so far, I think Tucker is right in that no one really knows for sure anything. We just draw conclusions based on evidence and theories...
Btw; on average the races with the most Neanderthal DNA also have the highest average IQs. Asians then Whites then Blacks is the order for both highest average IQs and highest average Neanderthal DNA. Follow the science.
“and two different species of humans were formed”
Since we mated with them they were different races rather than different species. I recently read we coexisted with Neanderthals for something like 10,000 years in Europe. There were slight genetic differences between us and the Neanderthals though which apparently made the difference in which group survived.
And there was no inter-breeding between Neanderthals and Sub-Saharan Africans. They didn’t benefit from Neanderthal DNA.
Plus Denisovans who crossed with both modern humans and Neanderthals.
Some of Darwin theory's are dead wrong , like it can take a 100 years for evolution to happen, the birds that he used as a example changed rapidly in less then 2-3 generations not 100 years this has been proven ! So back to Science to brew yet another theory , or branch off on yet another idea . The problem with Science is when you think a theory is fact , that idea doesn't exists in Science i.e. every idea from Science is a theory till proven wrong or a new theory becomes more popular in Science or put into teaching books ! Why don't people see this as fact. Ideas from Science are theory . I'm Not attacking Science just spelling out what Science is ! So there is room in Science for disproving , and new Science , if there wasn't then it wouldn't be Science any more but maybe something called wokeism ?
Tucker is right we don't know it all , and maybe we don't much at all ? If we can't admit this then we will be lost ! And thus things like our first amendments should be taken away and they can lock us all up. The more we understand the more we can realize there is so much more that we don't understand ! Science should just give us more questions , not answers .
So there is room for Religion with in Science , not part of Science , but with !
He's hated because he is a vociferous critic of the military industrial complex. Just like Glenn Greenwald. That complex has massive influence and money behind it.
I respect Bari and Ben a LOT less than Tucker or Glenn. Bari is a snake imo for her smearing of Tucker and for calling Tulsi an Assad toadie. Ben just comes off as dishonest for the Candace situation. He really expects me to believe it had nothing to do with Israel?
I like you don’t agree with everything Tucker says but I learn a lot from his interviews. We need to hear all points of view then come to our own conclusions. I prefer listening to someone who doesn’t have to “tow the party line “.
At this point, as certain "Spud boys"* predicted, I think we are DEvolving.
Agreed on Tucker. He may get goofy on occasion, but he is a national treasure.
(*Hint: "Are we not men?!?"
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Tucker drops much appreciated here in Australia. They seem to out to get him.
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I love your Tucker links. Tucker was lucky to have been removed from Fox. Now he is really a journalist, asking questions that the captured corporate media wont touch. We all benefit from that.
I watched the entire 3 hour JRE last night with my wife. It was at times fascinating and scary, but I was truly impressed with Tucker. He's speaking what he believes to be the truth. Contrast that with Joe Scarborough who I used to watch 2-3 hours a day prior to 2017.
That JRE episode was, imho, the best I've seen. If I had to bet my house, I'd say evolution is the correct theory, but there are a lot of holes in it that have never been proven. It's not 'settled science', but that's not something you say out loud.
I always wondered why it wasn’t ok to say God “did” evolution.
Or how about, "Let there be light," and the big bang boomed? God's a pretty smart one.
Somebody did something. Nobody can prove their version.
My personal theory is that the planet was seeded by some other lifeform. That would be a very 'human' thing to do.
But then, where did that lifeform come from?
“But then, where did that lifeform come from?”
“What is Life? Is Death Real?” (6 min)
Kurzgesagt - In a Nutshell. Dec 11, 2014
http://youtu.be/QOCaacO8wus
Evolution is a universal “emergence phenomena” of complexity emerging from simplicity which is also driving the exponential growth of AI. Since God made the universe with this feature in it then it can be said that God is doing evolution and also AI which is evolution on steroids.
Evolution had to start somewhere. That's the biggest hole. There was a "big bang." Really? What caused that? I've never seen an answer.
And don't het me started on infinity.
It's pretty clear that JFK was assassinated by a conspiracy, and I'm guessing it was a CIA job since they won't open the records. The Nixon thing was new, but makes sense when you consider that Howard Hunt pulled off an even bigger surveillance of the Goldwater campaign in '64, so the CIA has been fucking with elections, both home and abroad, for decades.
Loved the Alex Jones discussion too. It was a really, really good show from two people with no agenda but the truth.
I didn't agree with Tucker's views on Bari and was glad that Joe had her back.
There maybe some truth to what Tucker said about Bari Weiss. Her Free Press has been running hit pieces on Tucker as well. They refuse to talk to him. It’s just one dig after another it’s like they only view Tucker via an MSNBC lens filter.
Bari has a long history of trying to shut down all Criticism of Israel going back to her student days at Columbia.
Gg had an article in the intercept years ago about how she was trying to get a professor fired who didn't share her programa. Israel stance
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Hmmmm, I've subscribed to The Free Press since they started, and I guess I don't recall that, but maybe I wasn't paying attention.
I still have incredible respect for Bari and Nellie and how they've built a far better media form than most. They're still pretty liberal, but so are all of my other SSs and Rumble subscriptions. I'm pretty sure that none of the people I subscribe to have ever voted for the same President as me, but right now, Freedom of Speech, election integrity and reining in our alphabet agencies are the most important issues in our country and Matt, Glenn, Sasha, Jenny, Bari and Nellie are all on my side of those issues.
I agree with that. And, I follow Taibbi and Greenwald (was a founding member of his substack) even though I don't agree with many things they say. Indeed, it's because I follow them (and read their books) that I've seen their evolution in many areas. Example: Greenwald was a Bolsonaro hater and, in many ways, was more responsible than anyone else for getting Lula eligible and elected. Now, he's seeing what that means, and it's changing him ever so slightly but perceptibly.
So, I agree: I don't want to be in an echo chamber. I tried to follow Bari Weiss, too, but found her to be someone who always wants to split the baby. Different strokes for different folks. Cheers!
I'm no fan of Bari Weiss. Just because she got kicked out of the NYT does not, ergo, make her a clear thinker. She's a bit like Matt Taibi and Glenn Greenwald: They both have these massive blindspots from spending so many years on the left.
For example, if they ever have anything positive to say about Trump or one of his policies, they first have to genuflect, saying something like "I'm certainly no fan of Trump but . . ." or "Donald Trump has massive flaws but . . . ."
Also, they don't see the media as far more biased against conservatives. They'll claim that it's equally biased against those on the left and right who are one-standard deviation (or more) away from consensus. Both Taibbi and Greenwald are starting to wake up to the fact that this is just not true, but they're not all the way there yet. I don't know about Weiss.
Bari, Matt and Glenn all risked their careers and reputation to follow their moral compass.
I don't expect everyone to appreciate Trump, or any of my other political views, but I believe they're on the right sides of the most important issues facing the country.
Evolution and belief in a creator God are not incompatible. Just as big bang theory and science in general, and belief in a creator God, are not incompatible.
To channel Einstein, God does not micromanage. Of course, Bohr admonished Einstein to quit telling God what to do.
Assuming he went up, Niels would now know that Albert was just studying the works of the master.
Bohr was an atheist so probably not.
i suspected that might have been the case, thanks