MAGAs: Don't be a one-issue supporter. Sash has it right. Calm down. Talk. Talk to each other. Together we can stand and win. Divided we will most certainly find ourselves on the losing side [again].
Or that people support Trump because of him vs. his policies. I personally find Trump immature and annoying, but look at the alternative: open borders, lawfare, censorship, forever wars, racism in the guise of anti-racism, and inflation. No thanks.
Look at actions and results. I really dislike a lot of Trumps communication style. But...actions and results. For example: shut down USAID. See who is screaming loudest.
Exactly. An even better example is how quickly he throttled illegal immigration into the US. It demolished the nonsensical claims about how "immigration reform" was needed to control the border and made it abundantly clear that the border was only open because the Biden administration wanted it to be.
Is the "one issue" you talk about Trump's speech about sending in U.S. troops to ethnically cleanse Gaza of 1.7 million Palestinians, killing those who resist, and handing it over to "the people of the world," i.e. Israel in practice, with Netanyahu grinning?
Strange how you didn't mention that. It's just "one issue!"
Oh, and Israel's defence minister says on X that he is working on a plan to send the Palestinians to Western countries, such as Spain, Norway, Ireland and Canada.
Mine was intended as a general “one issue”. Pick your issue; please don’t let it set you off. Don’t “take your marbles and go away”- back to the lonely desert. Cheers!
Aww, that "Tell" in the end really makes your passive aggressiveness stick, simonwitz. How cute!
And you can't even spell Israel, hilarious. I thought you Jews had to practice that. Your IQ must be really low.
Amazing chutzpah to pretend the Arab countries around Israel want to "commit this genocide" against Israel. Umm, what genocide, liar? The genocide is Jews mass murdering Palestinians. But like all Jews you use the Big Lie technique, telling a lie that is the complete opposite of the truth. The aim is to make people think "there must be SOMETHING to eat, no one would lie so completely!" Except psychopaths like you would.
So when more than 100,000 Palestinians are murdered and two million are driven from their homes, with the Israeli leaders talking about ethnic cleansing of Gaza to make room for Jews, you claim it's "a genocide against the Jewish state."
Disgusting.
And you pretend that Israel's neighbors want to commit "genocide." Except Jordan and Egypt are helping Israel. But maybe you are too dumb to know that. Egypt has kept the border closed to Gaza for decades to starve the Palestinians, in return for money every year taken from American taxpayers. The Egyptian regime is the biggest recipient of U.S. "aid" after - of course - the Israeli regime.
Jordan prevents the Palestinian refugees from fighting against the Israeli occupiers, even taking their passports like Israel wants. They help the U.S. spy and helped the Israelis murder Syrians by assisting Islamists.
The Jew-loyal politicians in Washington destroyed Syria and Lebanon with sanctions, after creating ISIS by destroying Iraq for being pro-Palestinian, like the neocons wanted. They allowed Turkey to help ISIS by buying the oil they took from Syria.
Israel acted like al-Qaeda's air force in southern Syria, bombing Syria's defenders. Giving the Islamists medical aid and shelter on the Israeli side of the border. Then when al-Qaeda lost in southern Syria, your beloved Jewish State arranged for the terrorists to be flown to - Jordan.
That's Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, and the attacked Lebanon and Syria. While Israel EVERY YEAR murdered Palestinians, including nurses and reporters simply covering protests.
Jews walked into Palestinian homes and stole them. They brag on camera, saying "Yahweh gave us this land!" They show off the homes they steal. Every year more land was stolen from Palestinians.
Yet you pretend it was a "genocide" against Israel!
Today while the Gaza holocaust is going on, the Jews are also murdering people in the West Bank. Firing at people who simply try to pick the olives they have grown. The West Bank has nothing to do with Hamas, so they don't have that excuse.
You claim Jews killing people in the West Bank is "a genocide against Israel."
Absolutely disgusting.
At the same time, Israel's IsraAID has been aiding mass immigration to Europe. And the Jew George Soros funds leftists who go to Libya to pick up Africans going by boat right off the coast, pretending they're "shipwrecked." While Jew-run media in the U.S. praise IsraAid and Soros.
And the Jewish, Israel-supporting organizations in Europe all promote mass immigration - to EUROPE, not to Israel.
That includes the World Jewish Congress and the European Jewish Congress. Where the CEO has promoted laws he wants passed in the EU to silence White criticism of mass immigration and Jews, which he calls "hate."
Mass immigration of Arabs and Blacks to the West, but racial supremacism for Jews in Israel, stealing Palestinian homes every single year.
Who is Dan Turrentine and who gives a sh*t what he thinks or says? I don't see one ripple in the support for Trump over Gaza. Something has to be done with the place. It can't remain a haven for terrorists. I can't imagine any of the Trump crowd disagreeing
Excellent comment - after seeing all of the wasteful spending and how it's being stopped, I don't think anyone is having buyer's remorse at this time. The only ones crying are RINOs and Democrats.
You are mistaken. 3x Trump voter here (wife also) both royally pissed about Trump talking about sending troops to Gaza. Our son didn't join the military so Trump could turn Gaza into something "spectacular" , "the Riviera on the Mediterranean". America First my ass. Israel First, as always. Sad..
Inform yourself before typing in all caps because you look ignorant. (and so do the sheeple that liked your comment). Trump literally said he would "if necessary we will do that" in response to a reporter's question on whether he would be sending troops to Gaza.
It won't be a picnic. It will be a shit show of snipers, roadside bombs, grandmas with rifles, booby traps etc. These people need to be beamed out but we aren't quite there. Buy and island and put them on it? No fighters or sympathizers can stay. Don't know how he figures that out.
Trump has backtracked since I made my comment but initially he literally said he would "if necessary we will do that" in response to a reporter's question on whether he would be sending troops to Gaza.
Something HAS to change. When you have Hamas terrorists constantly indoctrinating children from birth that they must hate Jews (and Christians) and their whole objective in life is to kill Jews, they grow up not knowing any other way. All they know is hatred and killing anyone who doesn't believe the same way they have been taught. This cycle needs to be interrupted for a few generations. But even then, I seriously doubt this hatred can even be stopped for long, because centuries have gone by and it just seems to spread, because they are relentlessly vicious and determined.
Marilyn you are absolutely correct. Hamas is a Palestinian nationalist Sunni Islamist political organization that has been designated as a terrorist organization by the United States and several countries and international bodies. But if you look into the cultural roots of Hamas, no other Islamic nation wants the Palestinians living in their countries. Jordan. Saudi Arabia and Egypt are examples. The Palestinians are a filthy people.
Click the MEMRI url to listen to English translations of what the muslim world is saying. Look for children’s cartoons and see how the Gaza children are taught to hate.
Not disagreeing with your points, however, we would still have the same indoctrination issues in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Qatar, and those are just our so-called allies in the Middle East.
Are you a lying or just ignorant? There are millions of Christians living amongst the Muslims, including Palestinians. Not hard, look it up.
It's the Jews that teach Jesus is burning in hell in boiling excrement. Why do you think the orthodox Jews spit on Christians in Jerusalem? Muslims teach he was a great prophet. Thou shalt not bear false witness, remember?
Wow, you must be a Democrat. How many Christians are in Gaza? they said 1300 a couple of years ago. If you are gung ho to be an active Christian in the middle east you may find a country that will take you. A pastor in Iran, currently is in jail, sentenced to death for "apostacy." Meaning Christianity. The penalty for leaving Islam is death in many countries. Hardly an open place to become Chrisitan.
I told my wife someone called me a Democrat and she burst out laughing! Wow, you must enjoy being in an Echo Chamber if you think everyone with a different opinion is a Democrat! Proud MAGA here, but I'll skip the GroupThink and being in lockstep on every issue. Who wants that? Apparently, most people.
By the way, try moving to Israel as a Christian. It's next to impossible, even if you are ethnically Jewish.
No. Judaism teaches 0 about Jesus. No excrement. No boiling. ZERO. Jesus was a Jew and his preaching is to follow his way- Judaism.
Christians have a new convenant believing in Jesus as the son of God. Jews believe all people are God's children. Christians also follow the "old Testament". You know, Abraham, The 10 Commandments, etc. If Jesus is the son of God, the Messiah, as Christians believe, He will return. Jews are waiting for the messiah who will fulfill the messianic promise- which will be the first time for Jews.
Please do not slander Judaism. ISRAEL was invaded and attacked 10/7/2023 by Palestinians under the direction of Hamas- who they ELECTED. Fellow Muslim neighbors- Jordan and Egypt DO NOT WANT THEM.
Curb the Jew hatred and your lies when discussing the fate of Gaza.
I have no hatred of any religious group but I do hate lies and deception. You're correct about Christians having a new covenant but that's about it. Where do you get your wishful thinking about Judaism from?
2WAY men are as far from wannabes as it gets. They have real connections and real knowledge and were the best informed political pod during the election.
Some Trump supporters will have a serious problem with Trump's Gaza proposal. They are not nearly so lock-step in their support for him as you might think, or as the MSM has told you.
The MSM has told me nothing! Their shrill cries echo into the void. I see what Trump is doing and I approve. I assume MSM is doing what they can, being a dying, cancerous husk of a corpse in its death throes…but I wouldn’t know. I don’t have a TV. I don’t do social media. Certainly if there was any disagreement among Maga about what Trump is doing, the MSM knows nothing about it, but that never stopped them before.
The proposal for the US to "take control" of Gaza, while bold, is inherently risky. There is going to be some debate within MAGA nation about it, and rightfully so. But Trump has earned the benefit of the doubt on this, for now.
Of course it is risky. Pulling out is risky. The status quo is risky. The current situation is unsustainable, which means it will change, for better or worse.
Right. The headline "take control" bothers me. I await more info on his Gaza proposal before going hysterical. Remember, it is Trump's actions that are important.
Not sure what verb you are talking about but I don't want our people there either. On the other hand we may have no choice and it could actually work, but it is a potential quagmire.
Funny that nobody notices an elephant in the room, the refugee crisis in Gaza and the role of the UN maintaining the status quo. The majority of the population in Gaza are refugees first, second, third generation. Born a refugee, died a refugee, never had a normal life living in "camps" (apartments). With no plans for this cycle to be disrupted. It's pretty easy to indoctrinate children which are victimized from the birth.
My own idea (a while ago) was to sell the land to the highest bidder (say, somebody in Dubai), give the refugees this money and passports of countries in the area for resettlement (those who don't want to move can stay). And Gaza can become some kind of an international zone, or whatever they negotiate; a great area for new owners to build resorts. Win-win-win. Of course, there would be a great amount of screaming from those who profit from the refugees and Gaza now, you can't force refugees to move, violation of human rights, and what about events in Israel in 1948?
Not bad. Needs some tweeks. I don't think their are too many in Gaza who want to be under the US. But they don't know. Get rid of Hamas and it's Ding Dong the Witch is dead. Get a few Big Macs in them, and they are good to go, no?
Whether Dan realizes it or not, he's just helping the mainstream media's narrative. We've all gotten so used to the 'hot take" that nobody seems to think about what they say before they say it. I'm not sure if getting us involved in Gaza will work or not, but it's certainly thinking out of the box, and might be a good negotiating tool if nothing else.
Dan Turrentine is actually a smart guy. He's a Democratic strategist and campaign advisor. He was on with Megyn Kelly - along with Mark Halperin and Sean Spicer - quite a few times and he's quite reasonable.
he is actually really well informed well spoken part of the 2way trio consisting of Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer and Dan Turrentine. I like all 3. Dan's POV is very relevant or otherwise the podcast could slip into an echo chamber. It's important to know what the other side thinks and what their moves are and he provides all that. Plus he's very likable.
calling Dan Turrentine of all people "dipshit" just because he's a Democrat and makes valid point that not all Trump ideas are going to have smooth sailing with his base is exactly the kind of thing everyone here hates about the left.
I watched Greenwald and think he is correct in his views on this. I truly hope it doesn’t turn out as bad as it seems. I know most of the military veterans want no part of another foreign military engagement; for us or for our children. Let the neocons and their kids go to Iran and Gaza. Sad and hypocritical how those who push for war the most are least likely to go or send their kids.
Wow you don't know enough MAGA people or the ones you know are completely in GroupThink. There are too many fake America Firsters on anything related to Israel it's shocking.
Trump just highlighted what a valuable piece of geography Gaza is. He shined a light on that for a reason. The game here is to entice Jordan and Egypt to make a play for Gaza. I predict the valuable Gaza Marine (untapped natural gas reserve) will also be getting some airplay soon.
Very wise advice. We have already seen this earlier in the week. Trump drops tariffs on Mexico and Canada. WSJ, "OMG the economy will be wrecked and inflation will sky rocket!!". By the end of the day - Trump, "I just wanted them to secure their side of the border and they have mostly agreed, tariffs are off".
Our liberal friends were all depressed when the stock
Market dropped after the announcement of tariffs. My husband tried to console them and told them not to even look at it. Guess what it’s rebounding in less than a day. People need to chill!
Funny to watch the market take a shit in the morning only to have rebounded by midafternoon. Reactionary, much? While his moves aren’t in the realm of 4D chess, I do put them in the common sense category, something our political class and libs have since forgotten.
But securing our side of the border in Canada has nothing to do with illegal border-crossers into the US. In crossing that border, it is the American border guards who have to allow you in or not....nothing to do with Canada when someone is leaving.
The same could be said about the Mexican border. I agree that it primarily the job of the US to stop illegal entry. But it never hurts to have some help from the other side of the border. It’s how we can tell where our neighbors stand.
Different situation. Mexico is not a first-world country. Canada is. Few people living in Canada would want to risk illegal border crossing into the US. Which would mean having to do a cross-wilderness journey by foot. In a rugged land. Why take that risk to leave a first world country?
This has never been a real issue in the 400 years of having a border between the US and British North America/Canada. Why all of a sudden now? Canada could have complained the same way about having scores of draft dodgers or American cult communes arriving in the 70s, but it was not worth this kind of fuss.
Why would Trump make such a hue and cry about such a minor issue? Wanting to destroy a friendly neighbour's economy an take them over because a few people slipped illegally into the US through Canada? Makes zero sense. There have been large numbers of illegal immigrants from the US to Canada too. Google "Roxham Road". Canada has a bigger problem with illegal entry from the US than the other way around.
A., you are correct to point out that we have had these borders with both Canada and Mexico for well over 150 years. So why the problems now? Of course, that has a lot to do with the changes in US policy in terms of offering unlimited financial support for any and all comers.
But I think you are wrong to act as if the concern at the Canadian border is with the possible entry of first world ordinary Canadians. Of course that is not the concern. It’s the use of Canada as a convenient transit point for not so friendly immigrants.
The Troodo government, as you refer to it, is hesitant to offer help in stopping the infiltration that in the long run is detrimental to both the US and Canada. It’s beneficial to both sides as neighbors to stop the type of immigration that’s going on.
Btw...British North America (as Canada used to be called prior to 1867) had been established since just after the American War of Independence, and there had been British trading companies here snice early in the 17th century. In between, France held large parts of what is now Canada, until they lost to the British in 1759.
There was a Norse Viking settlement in what is now Canada, around the year 1000 AD.
So Canada has had European settlement for much longer than 150 years.
Yes, I know. As you said, that border has been around 400 years. I used at least 150 years to encompass the Mexican border also, which has been since Texas became a state. In both cases, it’s a really long time! So we need to figure out why there’s a problem now, when we managed just fine for so long in the past.
Your explanation runs both ways, though. Canada has had a huge influx of third world illegal immigrants crossing by foot at the Roxham Road point between New York State and Quebec. There are FAR more illegal immigrants coming into Canada from the US than into the the US from Canada. Greater govt. benefits available to them in Canada.
And during the 70s/80s, Canada had to put up with scores of American draft dodgers and cults/communes arriving from the American side. We did not make an international incident over this.
The Trump claims about Canada do not hold water. So why is he spouting off this stuff? Americans should question this as much as Canadians.
Honestly, I think he’s just looking for a partner. As I said, stopping the movements of bad actors intent on wreaking havoc in N America is in everybody’s interest. As you have noted many times, the Trudeau government seems to have problems understanding the concept of defending the ideals of Western Civilization.
As for the draft dodgers of the 70’s, 50 years ago, it’s time to let that go. It’s not relevant to the current situation.
Quick response: Fully agree, Sasha, give Trump a chance. Let's see how Gaza future unfolds. Seriously, anything is better than past years after Oslo Accords. Geez, "all we are saying is give peace a chance."
The propaganda war will be driven by "malicious compliance" where the agencies that are part of the government make intentionally stupid decisions and then blame Trump.
Exhibit (A) is the US Air Force Academy taking down the history of the Tuskeegee Airmen in order to comply with the no-DEI edicts. Any rational interpretation of his order understands that this is about encouraging meritocracy and cutting bureaucrats, not eliminating praise of minority heroes.
Exhibit (B) is the US Postal service temporarily banning deliveries from China to comply with tariffs. Tariffs are taxes paid and have nothing to do with the delivery of goods. This was done intentionally to create the headline "Trump is banning imports from China!!!!!!!!!" headlines.
Expect the administrative state to passively-aggressively resist Trump via stunts like these and for the media to amplify it.
Malicious Compliance will be the left's primary weapon going forward.
With Trump it is important to pause and see what he is after. It emphasizes to me how the Gazans have wasted opportunity in their land. Even now they could consider a new approach and become self supporting. Doubtful. Anyway I am very in Favor of the actions so far.
This is the best warning yet...Maxine Waters is out there cursing and leading an anti movement as usual and firing up her base...Trump knows what he's doing. I am certain whether I agree with it all or not but I DO AGREE for the most part, Let the man do what he was elected to do. Stop the madness. Settle down. Trump and Vance are destined to make America a lot of good things in four years and maybe more if Vance is next president. I hope he is.
Too many of us are linear thinkers. We see a tangent, and we think that direction becomes the unstoppable way that things WILL happen. If prices go up 1% in a day, we are too eager to believe that prices will go up 100% in 100 days. This sort of thinking is the fodder of flim-flam men. Hysterical talk about future events that are unforseen (climate change anyone??). My libby friends take every pronouncement of Trump to mean the end of the world as they know it. USAID will be 100% defunded and there will be no more helping of anyone in the world. Obviously preposterous, but this is what they all say out loud (even if maybe they don't really believe). See how the leaders of these hysterias act and you will know it is an act. Nobody "in the know" are selling their beach houses, they are instead buying them.....
Patience Grasshopper.... Hasn't Trump been making a lot of very good and overdue changes?
It sounded as if you were the adult patting children on the head while you said that. That they would never come to the right conclusion on their own, so they needed to be told.
Rightly put. I think invoking the "Bongino rule" is a good plan right now -- take a breath, and wait for 48-72 hours until the dust settles, then see what floats by.
MIght be good to take a day or two off from social media, etc.
Anything not directly involved in closing the border, returning all of the invaders, getting the economy on its feet, the cabinet in place, destroying the Administrative state and neutralizing Iran is superfluous and can be ignored for the present. IMO.
Trump comes out with a shock statement and people freak while missing his point: direct attention away from the words Gaza/Palestine and into something different; start to erase the idea of Palestine. Mike Huckabee, our ambassador to Israel, is already calling the West Bank "Judea and Samraria" as we should be.
Also, there are those in the GOP who make their money on continuing mistakes.
Whatever Trump is doing we know it is in the best interests of the United States and our allies.
“Don’t squander that power now. You’ll never get it back.” I gotta write this down.
The dems are currently still doubling down on identity, which gives the right breathing room to do the important reform work. Look, USAID is gone! Few more to go. 5,000 FBI agents worked on J6 prosecutions. Can you say furlough? Buh bye!
Sasha, I couldn’t agree more with your advice and was thinking exactly that over the last couple of days. Trump is the Troll in Chief, and I mean that as a compliment- he knows how to bait stakeholders in a way to position us/himself for a win. I’m just enjoying the show because ANYTHING he does, assuming it’s coming from the guiding principle of America first, will be an improvement over the last four years.
If MAGA thinks Trump is as quixotic as that we deserve whatever we get. Three times in the last week he starts a negotiation with a tariff and all the blue hairs go crazy, then he gets the deal. Don't wonder if Gaza is ploy number 4? You pull the wool over your own eyes. Wait till you have proof before going bat s^%t crazy!
MAGAs: Don't be a one-issue supporter. Sash has it right. Calm down. Talk. Talk to each other. Together we can stand and win. Divided we will most certainly find ourselves on the losing side [again].
Let’s start by not assuming “MAGAs” are a monolithic, hyperventilating group.
Or that people support Trump because of him vs. his policies. I personally find Trump immature and annoying, but look at the alternative: open borders, lawfare, censorship, forever wars, racism in the guise of anti-racism, and inflation. No thanks.
Look at actions and results. I really dislike a lot of Trumps communication style. But...actions and results. For example: shut down USAID. See who is screaming loudest.
Results.
Exactly. An even better example is how quickly he throttled illegal immigration into the US. It demolished the nonsensical claims about how "immigration reform" was needed to control the border and made it abundantly clear that the border was only open because the Biden administration wanted it to be.
That one should have been a given. If not for the MSM and Hollywood idiots.
But, agree Trump's actions do expose the lies of the Biden Admin.
Now. I'd like to see Mayorkas and Binken both, investigated, as to abrogation of their offices and treason against the United States.
Is the "one issue" you talk about Trump's speech about sending in U.S. troops to ethnically cleanse Gaza of 1.7 million Palestinians, killing those who resist, and handing it over to "the people of the world," i.e. Israel in practice, with Netanyahu grinning?
Strange how you didn't mention that. It's just "one issue!"
Oh, and Israel's defence minister says on X that he is working on a plan to send the Palestinians to Western countries, such as Spain, Norway, Ireland and Canada.
"Just one issue!"
I don't believe those were Trumps words.
Aww, when you don't have any arguments you post something like that. How pathetic. Typical little Zionist lover.
Mine was intended as a general “one issue”. Pick your issue; please don’t let it set you off. Don’t “take your marbles and go away”- back to the lonely desert. Cheers!
LOL What you say when you don't have any counter arguments. Just waving away support for genocide. Pathetic.
Why do the arab countries and the people that live around Isreal want to commit this genocide against the Jewish state Mr Tell?
Aww, that "Tell" in the end really makes your passive aggressiveness stick, simonwitz. How cute!
And you can't even spell Israel, hilarious. I thought you Jews had to practice that. Your IQ must be really low.
Amazing chutzpah to pretend the Arab countries around Israel want to "commit this genocide" against Israel. Umm, what genocide, liar? The genocide is Jews mass murdering Palestinians. But like all Jews you use the Big Lie technique, telling a lie that is the complete opposite of the truth. The aim is to make people think "there must be SOMETHING to eat, no one would lie so completely!" Except psychopaths like you would.
So when more than 100,000 Palestinians are murdered and two million are driven from their homes, with the Israeli leaders talking about ethnic cleansing of Gaza to make room for Jews, you claim it's "a genocide against the Jewish state."
Disgusting.
And you pretend that Israel's neighbors want to commit "genocide." Except Jordan and Egypt are helping Israel. But maybe you are too dumb to know that. Egypt has kept the border closed to Gaza for decades to starve the Palestinians, in return for money every year taken from American taxpayers. The Egyptian regime is the biggest recipient of U.S. "aid" after - of course - the Israeli regime.
Jordan prevents the Palestinian refugees from fighting against the Israeli occupiers, even taking their passports like Israel wants. They help the U.S. spy and helped the Israelis murder Syrians by assisting Islamists.
The Jew-loyal politicians in Washington destroyed Syria and Lebanon with sanctions, after creating ISIS by destroying Iraq for being pro-Palestinian, like the neocons wanted. They allowed Turkey to help ISIS by buying the oil they took from Syria.
Israel acted like al-Qaeda's air force in southern Syria, bombing Syria's defenders. Giving the Islamists medical aid and shelter on the Israeli side of the border. Then when al-Qaeda lost in southern Syria, your beloved Jewish State arranged for the terrorists to be flown to - Jordan.
That's Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, and the attacked Lebanon and Syria. While Israel EVERY YEAR murdered Palestinians, including nurses and reporters simply covering protests.
Jews walked into Palestinian homes and stole them. They brag on camera, saying "Yahweh gave us this land!" They show off the homes they steal. Every year more land was stolen from Palestinians.
Yet you pretend it was a "genocide" against Israel!
Today while the Gaza holocaust is going on, the Jews are also murdering people in the West Bank. Firing at people who simply try to pick the olives they have grown. The West Bank has nothing to do with Hamas, so they don't have that excuse.
You claim Jews killing people in the West Bank is "a genocide against Israel."
Absolutely disgusting.
At the same time, Israel's IsraAID has been aiding mass immigration to Europe. And the Jew George Soros funds leftists who go to Libya to pick up Africans going by boat right off the coast, pretending they're "shipwrecked." While Jew-run media in the U.S. praise IsraAid and Soros.
And the Jewish, Israel-supporting organizations in Europe all promote mass immigration - to EUROPE, not to Israel.
That includes the World Jewish Congress and the European Jewish Congress. Where the CEO has promoted laws he wants passed in the EU to silence White criticism of mass immigration and Jews, which he calls "hate."
Mass immigration of Arabs and Blacks to the West, but racial supremacism for Jews in Israel, stealing Palestinian homes every single year.
Just Jews being Jews.
Calm down. Breathe. Wow.
Aw, little Jew doesn't have any arguments. LOL Pathetic.
Agree.
Who is Dan Turrentine and who gives a sh*t what he thinks or says? I don't see one ripple in the support for Trump over Gaza. Something has to be done with the place. It can't remain a haven for terrorists. I can't imagine any of the Trump crowd disagreeing
Excellent comment - after seeing all of the wasteful spending and how it's being stopped, I don't think anyone is having buyer's remorse at this time. The only ones crying are RINOs and Democrats.
You are mistaken. 3x Trump voter here (wife also) both royally pissed about Trump talking about sending troops to Gaza. Our son didn't join the military so Trump could turn Gaza into something "spectacular" , "the Riviera on the Mediterranean". America First my ass. Israel First, as always. Sad..
He NEVER said anything about committing troops to Gaza.
Inform yourself before typing in all caps because you look ignorant. (and so do the sheeple that liked your comment). Trump literally said he would "if necessary we will do that" in response to a reporter's question on whether he would be sending troops to Gaza.
"Israel First" in Israel. What a novel concept!
But Trump is our president. Right??
Right. You seem very confused. Are you taking your meds as instructed?
It won't be a picnic. It will be a shit show of snipers, roadside bombs, grandmas with rifles, booby traps etc. These people need to be beamed out but we aren't quite there. Buy and island and put them on it? No fighters or sympathizers can stay. Don't know how he figures that out.
Don't worry, Trump is just "bluffing!"
He’s been clear that no US troops will be involved.
Trump has backtracked since I made my comment but initially he literally said he would "if necessary we will do that" in response to a reporter's question on whether he would be sending troops to Gaza.
Something HAS to change. When you have Hamas terrorists constantly indoctrinating children from birth that they must hate Jews (and Christians) and their whole objective in life is to kill Jews, they grow up not knowing any other way. All they know is hatred and killing anyone who doesn't believe the same way they have been taught. This cycle needs to be interrupted for a few generations. But even then, I seriously doubt this hatred can even be stopped for long, because centuries have gone by and it just seems to spread, because they are relentlessly vicious and determined.
Marilyn you are absolutely correct. Hamas is a Palestinian nationalist Sunni Islamist political organization that has been designated as a terrorist organization by the United States and several countries and international bodies. But if you look into the cultural roots of Hamas, no other Islamic nation wants the Palestinians living in their countries. Jordan. Saudi Arabia and Egypt are examples. The Palestinians are a filthy people.
https://www.memri.org/
Click the MEMRI url to listen to English translations of what the muslim world is saying. Look for children’s cartoons and see how the Gaza children are taught to hate.
Not disagreeing with your points, however, we would still have the same indoctrination issues in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Qatar, and those are just our so-called allies in the Middle East.
Ditto!
Are you a lying or just ignorant? There are millions of Christians living amongst the Muslims, including Palestinians. Not hard, look it up.
It's the Jews that teach Jesus is burning in hell in boiling excrement. Why do you think the orthodox Jews spit on Christians in Jerusalem? Muslims teach he was a great prophet. Thou shalt not bear false witness, remember?
Wow, you must be a Democrat. How many Christians are in Gaza? they said 1300 a couple of years ago. If you are gung ho to be an active Christian in the middle east you may find a country that will take you. A pastor in Iran, currently is in jail, sentenced to death for "apostacy." Meaning Christianity. The penalty for leaving Islam is death in many countries. Hardly an open place to become Chrisitan.
I told my wife someone called me a Democrat and she burst out laughing! Wow, you must enjoy being in an Echo Chamber if you think everyone with a different opinion is a Democrat! Proud MAGA here, but I'll skip the GroupThink and being in lockstep on every issue. Who wants that? Apparently, most people.
By the way, try moving to Israel as a Christian. It's next to impossible, even if you are ethnically Jewish.
No. Judaism teaches 0 about Jesus. No excrement. No boiling. ZERO. Jesus was a Jew and his preaching is to follow his way- Judaism.
Christians have a new convenant believing in Jesus as the son of God. Jews believe all people are God's children. Christians also follow the "old Testament". You know, Abraham, The 10 Commandments, etc. If Jesus is the son of God, the Messiah, as Christians believe, He will return. Jews are waiting for the messiah who will fulfill the messianic promise- which will be the first time for Jews.
Please do not slander Judaism. ISRAEL was invaded and attacked 10/7/2023 by Palestinians under the direction of Hamas- who they ELECTED. Fellow Muslim neighbors- Jordan and Egypt DO NOT WANT THEM.
Curb the Jew hatred and your lies when discussing the fate of Gaza.
Agree
I have no hatred of any religious group but I do hate lies and deception. You're correct about Christians having a new covenant but that's about it. Where do you get your wishful thinking about Judaism from?
How UN-CHRISTIAN of you. Where do you get your hatred of Jews from?
Wow 😯
You got it. There are a bunch of wannabees who have a presence on Twitter and whatnot who think they are more influential than they really are.
2WAY men are as far from wannabes as it gets. They have real connections and real knowledge and were the best informed political pod during the election.
Neither can I imagine any of the Trump crowd disagreeing.
Some Trump supporters will have a serious problem with Trump's Gaza proposal. They are not nearly so lock-step in their support for him as you might think, or as the MSM has told you.
The MSM has told me nothing! Their shrill cries echo into the void. I see what Trump is doing and I approve. I assume MSM is doing what they can, being a dying, cancerous husk of a corpse in its death throes…but I wouldn’t know. I don’t have a TV. I don’t do social media. Certainly if there was any disagreement among Maga about what Trump is doing, the MSM knows nothing about it, but that never stopped them before.
by now all should know that he is just building leverage. Strategic gaslighting. And he is good at it.
Norman Finkelstein: “Israel Is A Crazy State.” (14 min)
Glenn Greenwald. Sept 24, 2024
https://youtu.be/fCwFE7sxMIg?si=Lxc01QKJbWmHQsSe
Finkelstein is just a cheap publicity seeker, getting clicks by espousing a narrative at odds with the Jewish Israeli consensus. Ignore him.
Wow. That is because you don't hang around those of the majority party. I have not heard a complaint.
Not many will have a problem with this because it is an obvious solution. Gaza and Gazans need a complete change of venue.
The proposal for the US to "take control" of Gaza, while bold, is inherently risky. There is going to be some debate within MAGA nation about it, and rightfully so. But Trump has earned the benefit of the doubt on this, for now.
Of course it is risky. Pulling out is risky. The status quo is risky. The current situation is unsustainable, which means it will change, for better or worse.
Absolutely Trump has earned the benefit of the doubt far beyond any criticism from the RINOs. Don't forget he took a bullet for the USA!
Right. The headline "take control" bothers me. I await more info on his Gaza proposal before going hysterical. Remember, it is Trump's actions that are important.
It "bothers" you to have the US control Gaza? But to have a Gaza full of terrorists and sympathizers relaxes you?
You want to argue over the verb I used. I don't want US boots on the ground in Gaza.
Not sure what verb you are talking about but I don't want our people there either. On the other hand we may have no choice and it could actually work, but it is a potential quagmire.
Funny that nobody notices an elephant in the room, the refugee crisis in Gaza and the role of the UN maintaining the status quo. The majority of the population in Gaza are refugees first, second, third generation. Born a refugee, died a refugee, never had a normal life living in "camps" (apartments). With no plans for this cycle to be disrupted. It's pretty easy to indoctrinate children which are victimized from the birth.
My own idea (a while ago) was to sell the land to the highest bidder (say, somebody in Dubai), give the refugees this money and passports of countries in the area for resettlement (those who don't want to move can stay). And Gaza can become some kind of an international zone, or whatever they negotiate; a great area for new owners to build resorts. Win-win-win. Of course, there would be a great amount of screaming from those who profit from the refugees and Gaza now, you can't force refugees to move, violation of human rights, and what about events in Israel in 1948?
Not bad. Needs some tweeks. I don't think their are too many in Gaza who want to be under the US. But they don't know. Get rid of Hamas and it's Ding Dong the Witch is dead. Get a few Big Macs in them, and they are good to go, no?
Whether Dan realizes it or not, he's just helping the mainstream media's narrative. We've all gotten so used to the 'hot take" that nobody seems to think about what they say before they say it. I'm not sure if getting us involved in Gaza will work or not, but it's certainly thinking out of the box, and might be a good negotiating tool if nothing else.
Same. It must be the small percentage of Jew haters who disagree.
Dan Turrentine is actually a smart guy. He's a Democratic strategist and campaign advisor. He was on with Megyn Kelly - along with Mark Halperin and Sean Spicer - quite a few times and he's quite reasonable.
he is actually really well informed well spoken part of the 2way trio consisting of Mark Halperin, Sean Spicer and Dan Turrentine. I like all 3. Dan's POV is very relevant or otherwise the podcast could slip into an echo chamber. It's important to know what the other side thinks and what their moves are and he provides all that. Plus he's very likable.
Totally agree.
right? Dan's smile is a treasure.
Yeah never heard of this dipshit.
calling Dan Turrentine of all people "dipshit" just because he's a Democrat and makes valid point that not all Trump ideas are going to have smooth sailing with his base is exactly the kind of thing everyone here hates about the left.
Yes, I’m still looking for one world leader to speak up about a solution to Gaza.
No one but Trump has bothered to say anything.
Speaks volumes to the bias against the one Jewish state.
I watched Greenwald and think he is correct in his views on this. I truly hope it doesn’t turn out as bad as it seems. I know most of the military veterans want no part of another foreign military engagement; for us or for our children. Let the neocons and their kids go to Iran and Gaza. Sad and hypocritical how those who push for war the most are least likely to go or send their kids.
Wow you don't know enough MAGA people or the ones you know are completely in GroupThink. There are too many fake America Firsters on anything related to Israel it's shocking.
Trump just highlighted what a valuable piece of geography Gaza is. He shined a light on that for a reason. The game here is to entice Jordan and Egypt to make a play for Gaza. I predict the valuable Gaza Marine (untapped natural gas reserve) will also be getting some airplay soon.
A the eff MEN!
Very wise advice. We have already seen this earlier in the week. Trump drops tariffs on Mexico and Canada. WSJ, "OMG the economy will be wrecked and inflation will sky rocket!!". By the end of the day - Trump, "I just wanted them to secure their side of the border and they have mostly agreed, tariffs are off".
Our liberal friends were all depressed when the stock
Market dropped after the announcement of tariffs. My husband tried to console them and told them not to even look at it. Guess what it’s rebounding in less than a day. People need to chill!
Yes, he always has a plan and they usually work out.
And it works out quickly. No studies, no BS setting up a commission blah blah
Funny to watch the market take a shit in the morning only to have rebounded by midafternoon. Reactionary, much? While his moves aren’t in the realm of 4D chess, I do put them in the common sense category, something our political class and libs have since forgotten.
But securing our side of the border in Canada has nothing to do with illegal border-crossers into the US. In crossing that border, it is the American border guards who have to allow you in or not....nothing to do with Canada when someone is leaving.
The same could be said about the Mexican border. I agree that it primarily the job of the US to stop illegal entry. But it never hurts to have some help from the other side of the border. It’s how we can tell where our neighbors stand.
Different situation. Mexico is not a first-world country. Canada is. Few people living in Canada would want to risk illegal border crossing into the US. Which would mean having to do a cross-wilderness journey by foot. In a rugged land. Why take that risk to leave a first world country?
This has never been a real issue in the 400 years of having a border between the US and British North America/Canada. Why all of a sudden now? Canada could have complained the same way about having scores of draft dodgers or American cult communes arriving in the 70s, but it was not worth this kind of fuss.
Why would Trump make such a hue and cry about such a minor issue? Wanting to destroy a friendly neighbour's economy an take them over because a few people slipped illegally into the US through Canada? Makes zero sense. There have been large numbers of illegal immigrants from the US to Canada too. Google "Roxham Road". Canada has a bigger problem with illegal entry from the US than the other way around.
Heyjude, when looking at the facts here, your reply makes no sense.
A., you are correct to point out that we have had these borders with both Canada and Mexico for well over 150 years. So why the problems now? Of course, that has a lot to do with the changes in US policy in terms of offering unlimited financial support for any and all comers.
But I think you are wrong to act as if the concern at the Canadian border is with the possible entry of first world ordinary Canadians. Of course that is not the concern. It’s the use of Canada as a convenient transit point for not so friendly immigrants.
The Troodo government, as you refer to it, is hesitant to offer help in stopping the infiltration that in the long run is detrimental to both the US and Canada. It’s beneficial to both sides as neighbors to stop the type of immigration that’s going on.
Does my reply make sense now?
Btw...British North America (as Canada used to be called prior to 1867) had been established since just after the American War of Independence, and there had been British trading companies here snice early in the 17th century. In between, France held large parts of what is now Canada, until they lost to the British in 1759.
There was a Norse Viking settlement in what is now Canada, around the year 1000 AD.
So Canada has had European settlement for much longer than 150 years.
Yes, I know. As you said, that border has been around 400 years. I used at least 150 years to encompass the Mexican border also, which has been since Texas became a state. In both cases, it’s a really long time! So we need to figure out why there’s a problem now, when we managed just fine for so long in the past.
Your explanation runs both ways, though. Canada has had a huge influx of third world illegal immigrants crossing by foot at the Roxham Road point between New York State and Quebec. There are FAR more illegal immigrants coming into Canada from the US than into the the US from Canada. Greater govt. benefits available to them in Canada.
And during the 70s/80s, Canada had to put up with scores of American draft dodgers and cults/communes arriving from the American side. We did not make an international incident over this.
The Trump claims about Canada do not hold water. So why is he spouting off this stuff? Americans should question this as much as Canadians.
Honestly, I think he’s just looking for a partner. As I said, stopping the movements of bad actors intent on wreaking havoc in N America is in everybody’s interest. As you have noted many times, the Trudeau government seems to have problems understanding the concept of defending the ideals of Western Civilization.
As for the draft dodgers of the 70’s, 50 years ago, it’s time to let that go. It’s not relevant to the current situation.
Quick response: Fully agree, Sasha, give Trump a chance. Let's see how Gaza future unfolds. Seriously, anything is better than past years after Oslo Accords. Geez, "all we are saying is give peace a chance."
Yes, and Netanyahu gave him a little back out/wiggle room saying that Trump was still discussing it with his staff…
The propaganda war will be driven by "malicious compliance" where the agencies that are part of the government make intentionally stupid decisions and then blame Trump.
Exhibit (A) is the US Air Force Academy taking down the history of the Tuskeegee Airmen in order to comply with the no-DEI edicts. Any rational interpretation of his order understands that this is about encouraging meritocracy and cutting bureaucrats, not eliminating praise of minority heroes.
Exhibit (B) is the US Postal service temporarily banning deliveries from China to comply with tariffs. Tariffs are taxes paid and have nothing to do with the delivery of goods. This was done intentionally to create the headline "Trump is banning imports from China!!!!!!!!!" headlines.
Expect the administrative state to passively-aggressively resist Trump via stunts like these and for the media to amplify it.
Malicious Compliance will be the left's primary weapon going forward.
USPS shouldn't play with fire, they live in a grass hut. Privatization just got put on the table.
I live in Western Pennsylvania. Yesterday I received a letter from Houston, TX postmarked January 30. Privatize anyone?
Well in Canada now, it regularly takes 14-16 days for a letter going from Ontario to the east coast.
Our church sent something on Saturday, Feb 1 and it hasn’t arrived yet, Feb 5. They are five miles away.
Today I received a check from Georgia dated January 29.
With Trump it is important to pause and see what he is after. It emphasizes to me how the Gazans have wasted opportunity in their land. Even now they could consider a new approach and become self supporting. Doubtful. Anyway I am very in Favor of the actions so far.
This is the best warning yet...Maxine Waters is out there cursing and leading an anti movement as usual and firing up her base...Trump knows what he's doing. I am certain whether I agree with it all or not but I DO AGREE for the most part, Let the man do what he was elected to do. Stop the madness. Settle down. Trump and Vance are destined to make America a lot of good things in four years and maybe more if Vance is next president. I hope he is.
Gads, is Max Waters still around???? She must be as old as Methusela, and looks even worse.
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she has a really foul mouth and is an instigator of anything good and ugly as hell.
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Too many of us are linear thinkers. We see a tangent, and we think that direction becomes the unstoppable way that things WILL happen. If prices go up 1% in a day, we are too eager to believe that prices will go up 100% in 100 days. This sort of thinking is the fodder of flim-flam men. Hysterical talk about future events that are unforseen (climate change anyone??). My libby friends take every pronouncement of Trump to mean the end of the world as they know it. USAID will be 100% defunded and there will be no more helping of anyone in the world. Obviously preposterous, but this is what they all say out loud (even if maybe they don't really believe). See how the leaders of these hysterias act and you will know it is an act. Nobody "in the know" are selling their beach houses, they are instead buying them.....
Patience Grasshopper.... Hasn't Trump been making a lot of very good and overdue changes?
100%
That's a bit patronizing.
That is why Al Gore invented the internet.
It sounded as if you were the adult patting children on the head while you said that. That they would never come to the right conclusion on their own, so they needed to be told.
Great article. I can't believe that after watching Trump turn an outrageous idea into positive action for 8+ years now, people still get snowed by it.
We must all hang together, or we will all hang separately.
Rightly put. I think invoking the "Bongino rule" is a good plan right now -- take a breath, and wait for 48-72 hours until the dust settles, then see what floats by.
MIght be good to take a day or two off from social media, etc.
Anything not directly involved in closing the border, returning all of the invaders, getting the economy on its feet, the cabinet in place, destroying the Administrative state and neutralizing Iran is superfluous and can be ignored for the present. IMO.
Great points!
Gracias, your grace!
Taking over Gaza is a great bid. Doubt if he has any intention of actually doing it. But will negotiate from that position.
Yeah, it's an opening gambit. Art of the deal stuff.
Trump comes out with a shock statement and people freak while missing his point: direct attention away from the words Gaza/Palestine and into something different; start to erase the idea of Palestine. Mike Huckabee, our ambassador to Israel, is already calling the West Bank "Judea and Samraria" as we should be.
Also, there are those in the GOP who make their money on continuing mistakes.
Whatever Trump is doing we know it is in the best interests of the United States and our allies.
This! 1000%
“Don’t squander that power now. You’ll never get it back.” I gotta write this down.
The dems are currently still doubling down on identity, which gives the right breathing room to do the important reform work. Look, USAID is gone! Few more to go. 5,000 FBI agents worked on J6 prosecutions. Can you say furlough? Buh bye!
Sasha, I couldn’t agree more with your advice and was thinking exactly that over the last couple of days. Trump is the Troll in Chief, and I mean that as a compliment- he knows how to bait stakeholders in a way to position us/himself for a win. I’m just enjoying the show because ANYTHING he does, assuming it’s coming from the guiding principle of America first, will be an improvement over the last four years.
Very well said Sasha. Found myself getting frustrated with the knee jerking last night. It’s like cats with a laser pointer.
What a perfect description.
LOL!!
If MAGA thinks Trump is as quixotic as that we deserve whatever we get. Three times in the last week he starts a negotiation with a tariff and all the blue hairs go crazy, then he gets the deal. Don't wonder if Gaza is ploy number 4? You pull the wool over your own eyes. Wait till you have proof before going bat s^%t crazy!